donald trump is blaming pain at the pump on opec and president obama. >> opec can't wait. they are so greedy, they just keep going. they'd love to see obama get in. they are dying to have obama get in. they can't wait that extra 70 days. >> if you think gas prices are bad now, just wait. former shell oil executive jon hofmeister sees gas prices hitting 5 bucks a gallon. >>> later, organic food. is it a giant rip-off? i'll talk with a stanford university professor who said organic food has far less health benefits than originally thought. >>> the occupy movement makes its voice heard at the dnc, the democratic national convention this week. is anybody listening? i'll speak with two of the leaders. this country was built by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies have to invest in making things. infrastructure, construction, production. we need it now more than ever. chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turnin

the group said the purchase divided in the 1975 kidnapping of opec oil ministers in vienna. three people died in that incident. the woman is not accused of being there, but she has been charged with supplying guns and explosives. prosecutors had demanded a 15- year prison sentence for her and one year for the man. testimony largely relies on one witness, a former terrorist who is already convicted of his involvement in the opec kidnapping. the defense has asked to have the defendant's release. >> the evidence is so thin, it is impossible to build a case on this. >> proceedings have been limited to 90 minutes a day because of the defendants' advanced age. >> still to come -- a cool toy for adults or a dream for nosy neighbors? you could have your own drone, on sale for 300 yours. >> first, a quick look at these stories. a german court has confirmed the death of a nazi war criminal, the austrian physician who carry out medical experiments on prisoners in nazi concentration camps. judges ruled there was no doubt that a man who died in cairo in 1992 was also known as dr. death.

about half of the total from opec we get out of the persian gulf. we can cover that in north america rather easily. so we don't have to have the fifth fleet in the persian gulf to protect 17 million barrels of oil. only 2 million of it comes to the united states. the other 15 million goes to china and europe and around the world. i don't know why we're spending the money to protect the oil. >> and what do you think -- how does this play out? i mean, on the political front energy remains the key issue, and even the presidential election. which candidate has the better energy plan in your view? >> well, obama has no energy plan. he talks about energy a little bit. he never has a plan. romney has a good plan, and i believe romney will carry it out. that all the people that have run for president since nixon, republican and democrat, have always said elect me and we'll be energy independent. romney has not said that. he has said with a north american alliance, that we can bring together mexico, canada, and the united states, and we can be energy indepen

libya is an injured player in opec, but the fact of the matter is opec collectively those who dominate opec, they are not big fans of ours and they like having us over a barrel. this statement we can make is to go back and say you don't have one. not getting money but after incidents like this, we are not going to be getting anything from you. we are not interested in any part of it. that sends an even more powerful message. >> it is really two messages. you don't have to be relying upon the nations that don't have our interests at heart, and we can reinvest in this country and build economic growth, create jobs, oil and natural gas create a lot more jobs than the energy sector, talk about this on your show a number of times. neil: look at these scenes. do we want to be dependent on these guys? in the end do you want to be beholden to those guys? i think not. neil: looking at solar, wind, whatever you want. how taxpayers could be the butt of this one. the better believe they're going to be excited for the iphone 5 because it could be one thing that keeps the whole economy alive. mark z

that only is because opec gets together and they fix the price of oil. they get away with it because we have nobody in this country, we have nobody to defend us. >> all right. now to the battle of the tapes. there are two tapes that is in the political chatter today that's consumed headlines. one is the one of gov. romney at a fundraiser that was released yesterday, and now a new one today in which president obama is discussing redistribution. we don't have the entire tape but the word redistribution is there. your thoughts on the battle of the tapes today? >> first of all, when it comes to redistribution, i'm not surprised because that's where he's at. that's where his mind is. he's done it before and he said it before in different forms. but that's where his mind is. so i'm not surprised by that one. on the mitt romney tape where they pretty taped him, they shouldn't apologize. maybe it's time to bring on this discussion. he should not apologize and he shouldn't even come close to apologizing. he should talk about it. everybody should talk about it. by

under president obama, our dependance on opec oil has decreased. our imports from opec have gone down. >> some of your facts are misstated. >> if you go look at energy information, you'll see that opec -- >> but what's wrong with it going down more? what's wrong with it going down more? i mean, most people believe we should have done the keystone pipeline. >> we should have access to drilling on federal lands. drilling on federal lands has gone down 14% in the obama administration. >> that is a lie, chris. 2011 energy administration says that the last three years of obama has produced more oil every year than the previous three years under bush. >> this is not a political discussion. i understand you both want to push for the president and that's fine, but this is not what we're talking about. >> i want to get the number of 6 million barrels a day in america up to 19 million barrels a day and so if the president wants to increase our -- or lower our admissions and increase our gasoline usage or lower our mileage on our cars, that's fantastic. but a

and you can get off opec oil. now, that is sensitive oil that comes into the united states. 4.5 million barrels a day. remember the straits of hormuz, persian gulf, 7 million barrels a day move out of the persian gulf. we only use 2.5 million barrels of that. we get barrels from nigeria, venezuela, angola, but we do not have to import opec crude. we have sources in america that can be developed. so i believe what you're going to see in governor romney, he's going to step up with a plan. he'll carry it out. president obama's had four years to do something and nothing has been done. all he wants to do is talk is tax. he says the industry's doing well but we should tax them more. tax them more, they're doing well. i can tell you, you tax them, you will cut the activity dramatically with taxes on the oil and gas industry. >> okay. boone, listen, you're already a powerful gouy but i'm going to give you a promotion. you're energy secretary for a year, maybe an autocrat. you can do what you want, outside of natural gas f

. >> and is opec actually conspiring to prime more pain at the pump for americans? and is $5 per gallon gas now more of a reality? all that and a lot more today on "the closing bell." [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when you need it. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ ] i'm with scottrade. >>> welcome back. forget all the talk about china eating our lunch. have you checked the stock market in china lately? it's at lows not seen since march 2009. two key economic reports showing china's manufacturing sector shrinking. at the fastest pace since the global financial crisis. as we bring this conversation home we're wondering whether chinay slowdown is good or bad for u.s. markets and corporations. global corporate strate

get off of opec oil. but oil, what we purchase from the mideast, from saudi arabia in particular, some of that goes to the taliban and just get out of there and come home. they don't want us there. you are trying to change a culture that has been there for centuries, and if, you know, you want to change it to a democracy, if they came over here and imposed their culture on us, we would -- of course we would not even consider it. and that's their attitude there too. >> they are not going to change for their spouse. >> exactly. >> and we are going to the final segment and we will bring everybody back together here, and we will sit with the economic team, and when we come back, what do you think is the greatest thing as a country, and what do we look forward to, and we want to do that when we come back. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios like in a special ops mission? you'

my interview with an outspoken critic of opec and a billionaire who made billions betting across the energy sector from natural gas to oil. pickens thinks the u.s. should spend less time patrolling the strait of hormuz and back more efforts to become energy self-reliant. his plan? invest in the development of north american shale and natural gas resources. i spoke exclusively with sheikh mubarak, the government spokesman and a member of the royal family. i asked him about the importance of keeping the strait open and whether his government's crackdown on protests is inkpatable withs u.s.'s position on upholding democracy, a pillar of american foreign policy. how essential do you think the navy is to keeping the strait open? >> it's critical to keeping the strait open. melissa: are they essential? if they left would there be others to fill in the gap do you think? >> i think it's pretty clear that they are essential to be here and it would be very different to fill in the shoes of the american fifth fleet here in bahrain or in the region. the whole world could come to a standstill if

get off of opec oil. but oil, what we purchase from the mideast, from saudi arabia in particular, some of that goes to the taliban and just get out of there and come home. they don't want us there. you are trying to change a culture that has been there for centuries, and if, you know, you want to change it to a democracy, if they came over here and imposed their culture on us, we would -- of course we would not even consider it. and that's their attitude there too. >> they are not going to change for their spouse. >> exactly. >> and we are going to the final segment and we will bring everybody back together here, and we will sit with the economic team, and when we come back, what do you think is the greatest thing as a country, and what do we look forward to, and we want to do that when we come back. ♪ why not get buried in something other than work? get two times the points on travel, with chase sapphire preferred. the calcium they take because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum p

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opec itself has stepped up and filled that gap. the world, if you look at a simple number, the opec call. what does it need to produce to keep inventories imbalance. been producing over that for months now, even despite a significant drop in iranian supply. so the opec nations have stepped up. two and half million barrels of spare capacity. i've got to disagree with one thing that phil said. i think there will be an spr release. it will be politically driven. the rationale, with the u.s. imports dependence down so much we don't need to hold the same amount inventory that we did previously, and that could be part of what you're saying to the part of the strategy to continue to put the pressure on. lower prices. certainly lower exports. empoverish the people. the effects ultimately don't matter. lori: as we all know, a temporary impact on the oil market. >> but this will not be released. this will be the way they used to sell surplus metals. the u.s. government used to have vast stocks of metals and other materials of the idea that w

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with respect to opec, i rail against opec repeatedly, both as an oil executive and today. they are a legal cartel. they are setting prices in collaboration with one another for the purpose of their own protection and the maximization of income to their sovereign nation. there is nothing we can do about it legally. what we could do -- which is why i rail against our own government what it is republican or democrat -- we could be more energy independence and we are. i put a plan for which both administrations on how we could be off imports by 2020 to if we would concentrate on what we know is there, what we know we can do and also stop using -- start using natural gas as a transportation tool. we could put opec out of business as it relates to the united states of america. the last question? remind me. host: i think you covered all of it. guest: my apologies if i left something out. host: we will look at a couple of weeks -- tweet that have come in. i want cheap fuel for driving. this will drive the economy up. we have peter, who says, what percentage of the world's reserves

in the future is one of the leading member of the opec region and for russia i think it's absolutely vital to focus on the asian site because we'll all be looking for europe and we have a very tight relationship in economy with europe but taking into account what we discussed before i think for russia it's vital that we will focus on our forums there's a huge potentials in the resources in there. in global cooperation the neighboring countries like china south korea japan and others we can bring investments which can be in growth for russia so i think for us meeting is extremely is to be important but let's look at a little bit russian economy because opportune one hundred billion dollars are expected to out for out of russia i mean i know that investors could be uncertain about the russian investing climate before the elections but it's already been three months what's going on the money still going out well i think partly that is the general. on the global markets investment investors today not investing very much they prefer to see them care and to wait and see because it's top of

first, though, opec and the u.s. department of energy are both releasing their monthly oil reports later today. crude prices have found new levels of support this week ahead of the fed's meeting on expectatio expectations. neal atkinson joins us from data monitor. is the fed keeping a bid in the oil market? >> the fed is clearly an influence because people are looking to the fed to add more stimulus to the u.s. economy and that's thought that will stimulate oil demand and therefore prices might rise. but i think that there are more fundamental issues at work here. one of the factors that lay behind the price increase that you described a second ago was the fact that the iranian sanctions have been stepped up, so iran's exports have fall p. we've seen some cut backs in oil production for maintenance reasons and we've seen one or two other bits of uncertainty, as well. and demand is fairly sluggish. but supply is coming back. >> what are people mostly keeping an eye on? >> opec report is sadly subject to embargo for th

[talking over each other] >> definitely the opec nation. four dollars per gallon of gasoline. we have gotten used to $4 or $3.83 today, which is ridiculous. the difference between a dollar 83 and listen to this number. it is $400 billion per year, more money coming out of the american taxpayer, out of our buying power and the economy. and in this case, 50% being sent to the middle east and working its way for our own economy. that's a lot of money that we don't need to be removing from our buying power, especially now neil: i would think in that environment we would be shooting through the roof. maybe it is a slowdown that you talked about. but certainly, that would normally jack up prices. right now we don't have any of the major producing countries involved. pakistan produces no oil. so the major producers are not involved. if you bring in the questions. absolutely -- i don't think any of that is what happened. i think at some point, the u.s. is where you stand up and say, okay, we have burned our flag, enough is enough. maybe flaxen drones to pakistan and the embassies and

if he woo-- we don't we're at the mercy of opec, shame on us, we have all of this oil we are in the ground, we're not touching it. >> neil: and a maybe on president obama, and john hofmeister, it may be not a name proving for the president's big night, but it will be a number, a very big number. cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. trouble with a car insurance claim. [ voice of dennis ] switch to allstate. thr claim service is so good, now it's guaranteed. [ normal voice ] so i can trust '. unlike randy. are you in good hands? experience thehas your ticket pressure-relieving comfort of tempur-pedic, and sleep risk-free with sleep train's 100-day money back guarantee. get 36 months interest-free financing: no down, and no interest for 3 years. plus, get free same-day delivery. sleep train's 100-day money back guarantee, interest-free financing, and free delivery? that's the ticket! sleep train's ticket to tempur-pedic ends soon. ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a

if he woo-- we don't we're at the mercy of opec, shame on us, we have all of this oil we are in the ground, we're not touching it. >> neil: and a maybe on president obama, and john hofmeister, it may be not a name proving for the president's big night, but it will be a number, a very big number. cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. trouble with a car insurance claim. [ voice of dennis ] switch to allstate. thr claim service is so good, now it's guaranteed. [ normal voice ] so i can trust '. unlike randy. are you in good hands? >> well, this can be a little awkward. with democrats kick off their convention, this could be the week we see a big number on deck. and 16 trillion dollars. what we've accumulated year after year, deficit after deficit. something very, very evident in the republican convention in tampa and the republicans focusing on it like a laser beam throughout the week. to david walker, who has been very big on this issue, of course, the former u.s. com

you have commentary out of opec, it started in the brent market, and the commentary supposedly a rumor from obama and that gets carried and computers that can read 250,000 words a second. they started to break down. and was a bad thing. it just was a reaction to the news that it had and the fact of the matter is there were fewer people on the trading pits and they did it. and it's much sharper reaction. liz: we want to thank our traders for four of us, sandy is not happy with this. how does the number two million sound you? that is, the i phone 5s of been ordered so shares of apple climbed past $700 a share this morning. staying there by $0.75. let's shake it up with the team. our future guests, from the trading floor. and it is an important benchmark. do we continue -- >> it is all about those i how the other kris cox in the 700 club. google text that in 2007 but in the financial crisis it dropped to 262. it has returned earlier this month and is back above but priceline has $700 but it is not returned above that level and still remains below. >> look at the price to earnings for appl

to compete with opec. let's create an energy supply built to last. with our north american allies and finally make opec and middle east -- middle eastern dictators irrelevant. and that's just the way it is. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentlelady from texas seek recognition? ms. jackson lee: address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: does the gentlelady ask unanimous consent? ms. jackson lee: i ask unanimous consent. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. jackson lee: mr. speaker, just recently it was announced that 50 million americans experience food insecurity and experienced it in the last year. what that means is that families in the united states suffer without food. predominant number of those are single parents and children. what are we as a country if we allow children to go hungry in this particular great land? i just came back from africa and saw children who were hungry but yet we were there to encourage better technology to pro

that's why opec jacked up oil prices, to keep their profits steady. so while we have a leming like press, braying over romney being insensitive or something, the man is telling the absolute truth! the u.s. government is broke! the feds are borrowing heavily, $3.5 billion every day! and now they're manipulating the dollar in order to pay the bills. that's economically insane! that's greece! all americans should wise up. if you're on the dole, other people have to pick up your tab. and right now, there aren't enough other people to do that! that's why the country is at $16 trillion debt. unbelievable. that's a memo. now for the top story. reaction, joining us from washington, charles krauthammer. spectacular key points, right? spectacular. >> you know, if romney had said what you had said instead of what he said, he'd be president. i mean, that is -- what you presented is the guts of his case, which i think is a winning argument that obama is turning america into an entitlement state. the problem is the actual words he used. number one, he said 47%. to

opec and the saudis make their money from oil. that is their commodity. we kid ourselves if we think they are our friends and want to give us the oil for free or whatever we need. they want to see obama in office. they do not know what romney will bring in. >>neil: they know romney's plan to make us energy dependent could be just a lofty goal but they know what he wants to do. i am sure they would not be a fan of him becoming budget? >>guest: it is a wild car. if romney is in and we get a solid energy policy in the country and exploit our natural gas supplies here and knuckle down and over the next 10 years focus on natural gas, get off the addiction from the foreign oil, these guys are terrified of that. they do not want change. now is no change. now they want no change. before it was hope and change. they want us dependent on oil. we must get off this merry-go-round and focus on our natural gas supply at home to become energy independent. >>neil: weird having this move with the bernanke easing thing. it is getting very curious. thank you, kevin, very mu