>> replace obama care! >> get rid of obama care! repeal obama care! get rid of obama care. obama care! >> day one, president romney moves to repeal obama care. >> obama care! obama care! >> obama care! >> all all of obama care. >> i'm the one that's going to get rid of obama care. we're going to stop it on day one! >> remember 2012, the presidential election, about how obama care just never came up? it's like it wasn't even an issue in the campaign. so nobody ever expected that that election would have settled anything about obama care. >> you had said, next year, that you would repeal the health care vote. that still your mission? >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected, obama care is the law of the land. >> well, now the latest republican argument for shutting down the government in order to stop obama care is that it was never addressed as an issue in the presidential campaign. this is the point where the way your friend told you that you should calm down, use deep breaths, this is the time for deep breaths. preside

it also defunds obama care. that means it's a bill to shut down the federal government. >> and so, our message to the united states senate is real simple. the american people don't want the government shutdown and they don't want obama care. the house has listened to the american people. now, it's time for the senate to listen as well. >> senate democrats to do the same thing. and i want to know where senator prior stands on protecting the middle class. the consequences of this horrific bill. how about kay hagen in north carolina? does she understand the consequences that obama care is having in her state? what about mary lan dree of louisiana? >> republican congress want to stop the country to deny the people the chance to see a doctor. how many times are we going to do this? >> it is a wolf in wolf's clothing. the underlying bill to shut down government is reason enough to object to it. and you know what that's about? that's simply about putting their friends, the insurance companies, back in charge of medical

no, that's obama care. >> yeah, jared. maybe they should have written into the law some name for the exchanges. every state has a different name for their exchange. the word obama or federal government is not going to be in the name of any one of the exchanges. >> right. we may be looking at a situation, ten years from now where an aged tea partier says keep the government out of my obama care. in other word, what you have today with medicare is probably a good analogy. back when medicare first was passed, there was a tremendous anxiety. i think ronald reagan called it a great socialist experiment, a popular program. and very efficient one. you have conservative republicans protecting medicare saying keep the government out of my medicare not making the connections it is a government program. part of this, by the way, a serious part of this is just the information that need to really get out there. it is already -- way behind in terms of the, really, flooding the public with, with important information about this. >> let's

. >> repeal obama care. >> i'm tired of it. >> president obama is again calling on congress to do something. >> the tension is certainly building. >> there should be no conversation about shutting the government down. >> what's going on here? >> there are mixed signals ham penning here. >> let's start with some tough love. >> john boehner is a speaker in name only. >> boehner has given up. >> he has a kaup cuss caucus he lead. >> finally given up. >> real world circumstances. >> it's irresponsible. awe this has become the theater of the absurd. >> the walking on shards of glass. >> i am so happy. >> they're going to get bloody on this one. >> obama care is the law. >> it is the law. >> i think we have a shot at this. >> what's going on here? >> are we headed for a government shutdown? >> we'll continue to do everything we can. >> we'll unveil a plan to repeal president's failed health care law. >> this is the step they'll take. >> the gop obsession to repeal obama care. >> the rest of the country, awaits the finale of this preposterouser exsize. ---er exsize. >> house speaker john boehner g

>> on obama care, there will be more people that the taxpayers are taking care of after obama care than before. >> here's the question. is it fair that -- >> taxpayers picking under the tab for -- >> is it fair that people. >> americans will pay more. >> is it fair that people who can afford to buy health insurance could become freeloaders and taxpayers will take care of them if they get into an emergency medical situation? is that fair. >> the fairness that is lacking in obama care is clear because president obama has changed obama care over 19 times now. he has an uneven playing field. so if you are a political favorite of the president's, you've just got an exemption. big business got a huge ex-emmion. >> are you happy there are people out there who have money who decide they don't want to buy health insurance but an that we'll take care of them no matter what? >> what you're talking about is a very small percentage of the american people. the world is every single. >> have you been to the emergency room? >> my oldest son is a physician. >> you know who shows up. these are people who

. >> all because obama care is about to become -- >> we're not going to put up with funding obama care. >> fully implemented. >> the new revolution in america is about brains and balance and we the people got the brains. >> aww shucky ducky. >> if your kids haven't figured out what a lie is yet, you ought to tell them. >> obama care is a disaster. >> time for you to tell them. >> this atrocity of a law. >> atrocity of obama care. >> we cannot take our eyes off what it will mean to the devastation of health care in america. >> do you want to just half of obama care? do you want half of it? >> no. >> how about a fourth of it? >> no. >> how about we defund the whole damn thing? ♪ living in america >>. ♪ living in america >> you know, the house of representatives is supposed to be the people's house. the people's house has turned into a waste land because nothing gets done, nothing gets done, and it is all because of republican leadership. i made the case on the program last night. that there are votes after votes after votes that get voted down, issue that is get voted down because th

or obama care, as it's known. they want to defund it or delay it as part of any deal. we heard this from the speaker of the house, john boehner. >> obama care's driving up the cost of health care, it's destroying millions of american jobs. it is a train wreck. it would have to go. we've done everything humanly possible to make our point and we'll continue to make our point. >> either my way or the highway approach carried the day. in this case, the highway leads over a cliff to a shutdown or a default, either of which would be devastating for the economy. republican leadership has been dragged kicking and screaming into a fight that they know is bad for their party and bad for their country. and they should know, it's a fight they will not win. >> there's another fight brewing right now, a fight within the republican party itself. republican congressman tim griffin, for example, fired this shot over the bow of the senate republican counterparts, quote, so far, senate republicans are good at getting facebook likes

hearing obama care attacked is scaring some of the people who love obama care. like the family whose daughter has had three heart surgeries. they'll join us. terrifying video from inside the navy yard massacre last week. a survivor who refused to leave his co-worker behind that will join me. man: sometimes it's like we're still in college. but with a mortgage. and the furniture's a lot nicer. and suddenly, the most important person in my life is someone i haven't even met yet. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. as you plan your next step, we'll help you get there. you work. and you want to get an mba. but going back to school is hard... because you work. now, capella university offers a revolutionary new way to get your degree. it's called flexpath and it's the most direct path, leveraging what you've learned on the job and focusing on what you need to know so you can get a degree at your pace. and graduate at the speed of you. flexpath from capella university learn more at

we also have to deal with obama care. and i believe that's the appropriate place for the delay of obama care for a year. it's just simply not ready to go, even the obama administration has delayed it numerous times in numerous pieces. >> now, i want to ask you about obama care. republicans in the house have now voted to repeal or replace a piece of that law 44 times, measures which you have supported. now we're facing a government shutdown over this issue. you often hear gop lawmakers say they're doing the will of the people with this. but a new cnn/orc poll finds that 60% of americans think it's more important for rlawmakers avoid a government shutdown than make changes to obama care. this is a law that has been affirmed by an election and the supreme court as well. why are you and your colleagues continuing this fight at all costs? >> it's a law, but it's a bad law. it's going to be devastating to the workforce, changing the 40-hour workweek to 30-hour workweek. jobs are going to be lost as a result of it. yes, the issu

, affordable care act, obama care, whatever we want to call it. before i let you go, i want to ask you to give us an update on the military sexual assault question. i understand you have three generals who have endorsed your approach and most recently we saw a trial going forward in annapolis, a rape case, where the prosecution, which was the military prosecution, really many people believe went after the victim more than you would in a civilian court of justice. tell me how that is progressing. when can you get a vote on your proposals? >> we will again have a vote on this kmons sense re -- common sense reform, late november, as early as december. so many victims are asking to take this decision-making out of the chain of command because they don't trust the chain of command. generals have said the reason why we don't have people reporting these crimes because they don't trust us, don't trust the chain of command. we have three prominent generals, highest ranking general female in the army coming out to say this is the right thing. we have the hi

obama care is at heart of the shut down standoff. our next guest is a democrat who supports obama care, but says there's room to improve the plan. go down to democratic senator richard blumenthal. he joins me from connecticut. thank you for joining us. what would you do to change and improve obama care? >> one of the aspects of obama care that i think needs attention is its affects on businesses. increasing expenses at a time when they are recovering from the greatest recession in greatest history. there may be other areas that need improvement but the ways to address those issues are separately not to hold hostage the entire nation in effect trying to decimate a program that's been passed by congress, signed by the president, upheld by supreme court. a recent election me whe it was a central issue in the presidential race. and this kind of holding hostage is really in interest to the entire nation. kben, very bad to the economy, undercutting job growth and i think really calmer heads, common sense ought to prevail here. and hopefull

146%. >> jon: i'm not saying obama care is perfect. it's not. it was designed by congress. nothing designed by congress is perfect. you ask them to design a puppy, you'd get something with no face, two [bleep] and a semiautomatic. that's fine. [laughter] take that down. that is really disturbing. do you have a more foundational critique? >> obama care is the biggest job killer in the country. small businesses have been hammered under obama care unlike ever before. it's shattering the country. >> jon: as of now, i'm unaware of the specific growth of impact on jobs that it's had given the sign up doesn't start until next week. clearly economic growth is an issue. just the possibility that obama care may be hurting the economy is enough to get you on your feet for 21 hours. i congratulate you on that, sir. but i can't think of another thing that came out of washington recently that is hurting economic growth right now. according to the congressional budget office, the spending cuts from the sequester are costing millions 3 million jobs a

since that, the part-time obama care has actually trended downward, the notion that obama care is causing part-time work is simply not the data. joining me now on the eve of its full implementation is washington post columnist, ezra klein. can we start with this labor, job killing program? you get the fact it is killing jobs, responsible for slow job growth in the recovery, and also pushing people into part-time work. is there any reason to look at the data and think it was a true hypothesis. >> it would be remarkable if the market anticipated obama care and shed those jobs. it did not kill jobs, it is not even working at the moment. it doesn't not begin to deliver insurance until january first. the one part that was legitimate is this idea that there is a rule on employers who have more than 50 employees who work more than 30 hours a week, they have to offer health insurance. and if they don't, they have to pay a penalty. that is fine for most of them. most offer health insurance already. but for those who it is not, they may push employees into part-time work so they don't count as havi

do with caring about people, you know, obama care. basically, it's all i know. >> reporter: according to the kaiser family foundation, a lot of americans don't know about it. >> who created the affordable health care plan. >> it was approved by congress, the affordable care. >> i'm wondering as a citizen of america, how come i did not hear about this. >> reporter: it's a contention in congress, many people we spoke to were hearing details for the first time this week. >> i'm definitely going to read into it. >> is obama forcing americans to get insurance? it sounds that way. >> reporter: a group funded by insurance companies, health care groups is working to spread the word. dispatching field workers in ten states. >> we can follow up with you. >> reporter: 48 million uninsured americans will be able to get insurance through federal and state exchanges. they must enroll before march 31st. >> they can shop like you shop for an airline ticket or a flat screen tv and see what's the best price for you. >> this is all new to me. i never kn

people don't care about obama care. 40% do. the marketplace rejected obama care. more than 60 persons of the american people are on self-insured programs. it's a nonworkable program. the house has its point of view, the senate has it points of view. the president forgot about his legacy and became a leader, he would say all right, let's come up with a compromise. it's all or nothing for the senate and american people want two things. they want to defund obama care and they don't want government to shut down. >> first off, if can you go out and find me a bunch of americans who sit around their table saying let's defund obama care, that's a family i want to meet. this is a washington creation. it's not that much different than the past where republicans had their message. democrats have theirs. the problem here for the republicans is they're pursuing the exact wrong tactics. they don't thank the government every day because the road is built. when you tell troops they're not going to not get paid. government is essential to their daily lives. >> i have a different t

. >> repeal obama care. >> i'm tired of it. >> president obama is again calling on congress to do something. >> the tension is certainly building. >> there should be no conversation about shutting the government down. >> what's going on here? >> there are mixed signals ham penning here. >> let's start with some tough love. >> john boehner is a speaker in name only. >> boehner has given up. >> he has a caucus he can't lead. >> finally given up. >> real world circumstances. >> it's irresponsible. awe this has become the theater of the absurd. >> the walking on shards of glass. >> i am so happy. >> they're going to get bloody on this one. >> obama care is the law. >> it is the law. >> i think we have a shot at this. >> what's going on here? >> are we headed for a government shutdown? >> we'll continue to do everything we can. >> we'll unveil a plan to repeal president's failed health care law. >> this is the step they'll take. >> the gop obsession to repeal obama care. >> the rest of the country, awaits the finale of this preposterouser exsize. ---er exsize. >> house speaker john boehner gave

assumes big parts of obama care are kept. then, you're going around -- >> our budget also assumed that it wouldn't be in effect as well. >> actually that's not the case. you assume all of the medicare savings in your budget. >> yesterday, jon, i guess, on friday, chris voted to impose an increase on premiums on his constituents. >> whenever there's a flood these days, you guys in the republican party say that's obama care. what i find interesting -- >> let me get in here for just a second, i want to ask you congressman van hollen, we had a poll this week, that showed the health care law is about as unpopular as it's ever been. 52% oppose the law. 55% disapprove of the implementation. and only 11% in this poll, believe that obama care will make their health care better. >> the biggest poll we had on this was the last election, this was one of the most heavily litigated issues in the last election. and president obama said that he was going to implement the affordable care act and mitt romney said that he was going to defund it

it's not the death of obama care. listen to the wording here. >> you know, most presidents refer to their bipartisan efforts to reduce the deficit as achievements. the president sees this quote, unquote as extortion. so while the president is happy to negotiate with vladimir putin, he won't engage with the congress on a plan that deals with the deficit that threatens our economy. let me be clear. a debt limit increase without any reforms to lower our deficit just isn't going to cut it. >> john feehery, you heard it there. without any reforms. it's not you got to kill obama care to get the debt ceiling through or the continuing resolution, the cr as you're calling it. but something. >> well, john boehner's absolutely right. >> that's a significant statement there. he's saying this isn't all about killing obama care. >> i don't disagree with that. i think it's significant. but i think it's consistent. boehner -- we got a deal last year that decreased spending. you have to kind of within the context of raising that, that

act known as obama care. with as paj of the partisan bill, house republicans took a victory lap while sending a direct message to the senate. >> today, we urge the senate to take action. we urge our colleagues in the senate, our allies on the outside and the american people to push the senate to have this important debate on the floor of the senate. because if we are going to take action on behalf of the american people, we need the senate to have this debate on the floor of the senate. >> why today when we acted it wasn't just a group of republicans but it was a bipartisan vote. let me state that again because i want to make sure you write it correctly. it was a bipartisan vote. because we're americans first. >> that's why we are doing our job and now it is up to senate democrats to show some responsibility and follow the house's lead. now -- you know, many senate republicans have promised to leave no stone h6 this billkand all of us here support that effort. >> you got businesses all over the country who ar

law, obama care. in just five days, the sign-up begins for the federal health care exchanges. the average american will have 53 different plans to choose from. i want to turn it over to my colleague now, anchor of cnn's "the situation room" wolf blitzer. hi, wolf. >> carol, thanks very much. the president as you point out only a few minutes away from his speech at prince georges community college in suburban maryland right outside of washington, d.c. he's expected to speak for about 25 minutes. he's got a lot on his agenda when it comes to explaining what obama care is all about. you are going to hear the president. joining us as we wait for the president, our senior white house correspondent, jim acosta, chief political analyst, gloria borger and christine romans. our coverage of what the president is about to do will resume after a quick break. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know that when a tree falls in the forest and no one's around, i

obama care. fully implement the president's health care plan and a repeal of a tax on medical devices that help fund it. any house gop plan faces certain death in the senate. harry reid said any bill that would change obama care is unacceptable. we have this whole thing covered for you. we are on top of it, every angel. gloria is standing by. at the capital, chief congretion that correspondent, dana bash standing by as well. gloria, i want to go to you first. why would house republicans push changes to obama care in senate democrats insist, insist it's a nonstarter? >> reporter: well, have you ever heard of a show boat, don? i think that's what this is. precisely because they know that it isn't going to go anywhere in the senate. this gives a republican party, which hans been divided over substance using continuing resolution to defund obama care an easy vote. they can all unite around the fact they don't like the president's health care plan. they know the president's health care plan is not ver

ted cruz fought obama care. the history of this matter, i think, where we are today where republicans are today. if you go back to late spring, early summer, you have conservatives in both the house and the senate pushing leadership in both bodies to embrace making obama care at least part of the debate this fall, the budget and that debate. there was resistance among some members of leadership, not everybody. it wasn't clear at all that would be part of the debate as we were approaching the october 1st sign-up dates as obama care was about to be implemented it was entirely possible that republicans were going to not be talking about obama care at all and what you had from senator cruz and senator lee and others were attempts to make it part of the debate. i think they've chosen the wrong vehicle or vehicle not likely to work now but at least it's part of the debate did a few seconds. one-year delay, is that the off-ramp? >> well, you know, they can try that. that will not fly either. i think it's to tie this to

obama care explanation. but krystal says let people stay confused. are you confused? don't worry, come back and hear more from krystal ball and the whole cycle gang. [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness... accomplishing even little things can become major victories. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer. when i was diagnosed with psoriatic arthritis, my rheumatologist prescribed enbrel for my pain and stiffness, and to help stop joint damage. [ male announcer ] enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders, and allergic reactions have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis and discuss whether you've been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. you should not start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. tell your doctor if you're prone to infections, have cuts or sores, have had hepatitis b, have been treated for

opposition to obama care. john mccain and all the other people in the republican party in the house and in the senate, fought tooth and and nail in 2009. i don't know where ted cruz was or what he was doing. he arrived at the party late. if you are going to cast aspersions on the people who fought every stretch the way. every twist and turn of this obama care along the way, you ought to be a little bit humble about it and at least recognize their honesty and sincerity in a way that he did not. >> bret: while the tactics may be be a cul-de-sac the emotion and the spirit in the conservative side was clearly ig nighted by what wasn't a filibuster. mara, conservatives were fired up. >> there is no doubt about it he would say although we have had plenty of divisions inside the republican party. maybe this is going to be a civil war. battlefield this table. yeah, the tea party, every movement group is with ted cruz. this was an open, bitter split with the main string establishment wing of the republican party. i wan

defunds obama care is dead. dead. >> and right at the center of the debate, republican senator ted cruz who's threatening a fill buster. >> i will do everything necessary and anything possible to defund obama care. >> senator cruz joins us live. it's a fox news sunday exclusive. then, syria submits an inventory of its chemical weapons program as secretary of state kerry calls on the u.n. to act. >> this fight about chemical weapons is not a game. it's real. it's important. >> we'll discuss what happens next with former weapons inspector charles duelfer. plus, lawmakers are calling for aggressive background checks. we'll talk with claire mccaskill who is leading the charge. >>> and our power play of the week. iylana trump. all right now on fox news sunday. hello again from fox news in washington. well, the clock is ticking. the government shuts down in just eight days unless congress agrees on a bill to fund federal agencies. on friday, the house passed a measure to keep the government going until mid-december bu

care for a year and a repeal of a medical device tax that does help pay for obama care. what does that mean? the ball is back in the house's court. house republicans are meeting, brooke, as we speak to map out their next move. i am told that the plan was for them to try one more time. certainly, lots of conservatives in their caucus want them to keep fighting, despite it being pretty obvious that they're up against all odds, and the leading option for that next fight would be to have a spending bill that delays the individual mandate in obama care for a year. but as you and i talked about earlier in the hour, there are house republicans who were talking only privately about this before but are now coming out publicly as the clock ticks toward midnight saying enough already. let's wave the red flag. we made our point, not once, not twice, it's not going to happen. the math simply is not there, let's move on. i'm told unless something dramatic happens as we have seen, thing kz change on a dime, the plan is not to do that, to have one more crack at this and so that will --

fairness as it relates to obama care. this administration has already delayed or waived fully a third of this legislation. and we believe that it's only fair for the american people now to have that same delay. and that's the proposal i believe that will be coming forward this week. that's the proposal that we support. we hope that some of our leagues, democratic colleagues in the house support it like they did the individual mandate and employer mandate. the bipartisan position here is to delay this law for a year. i'm hopeful the administration will come on board and that the senate will see the light as well. >> again, are you willing to shut down the government to get what you want? >> well, there is 15 days between now and that deadline. and what we need is the house to act and then the senate to it act and this is the dynamic nature of legislating. >> you told our neil cavuto last week. you said if that's the only way i'm there are you still there? >> the president is the individual who is talking about shutting dow

supporters of obama care are also in the ad fight. their target is also the exchange and encourage enrollment to fund obama care. >> there's little understanding about the personal impacts of this legislation. we want to try to get around the political information and help people and families understand what they should choose that's best for them. >> reporter: much like the campaign, organizations that support or oppose the act have identified battlegrounds, parts of the nation they feelg ad wars can have the greatest impact. obama care supporters targets chicago land, illinois, los angeles and miami dade in florida based on the estimate of greatest number of uninsured people. americans for prosperity targets michigan, wisconsin, florida, virginia, texas, arkansas and nevada based on estimate of uninsured and potential of future political impact. grass roots operations for activists on both sides are still in place since the last election. they have never been used before to directly influence the implementation of the law. >>> the m

obama care, just what the doctor ordered or a poison pill? tonight on crossfire. >>> welcome to "crossfire." i'm stephanie cutter on the left. >> i'm newt gingrich. today the vote to keep government running and defund obama care. good for them. also today the president signalled deep down he realizes he needs to compromise. >> nobody gets 100% of what you want. you know that in your own lives and own families. i don't know how many people are married here, but you know you better learn not to get 100% of what you want. >> you know, he was addressing that to the congress. but i wonder if he's also signaling that he knows over the next couple weeks he's not going to get 100% of what he wants either? >> well, newt, the president has always said if somebody has a good idea to improve obama care, he is open to it. but i have a question for you. if doing the exact same thing twice is the definition of insanity, then what is the definition of doing something more than 40 times and expecting a different result? this is insanity. >> it's courageous. >

they lost the obama care fight. they lost at the ballot box, in congress, in the supreme court and at the ballot box again. if they can't move on and come up with a positive agenda, they're not going to get very far. >> quickly to viviana. >> this ad is all kinds of wrong. i think what's really sad about this for the gop is that there really are some great ideas in the gop about how to make the health care, the affordable health care act better. for example, allow competition between states. consumers to buy, for example, from california in rhode island, to make it cheaper, to make it better for consumers. you're not hearing those smart ideas. you're just getting stuck in this kinds of a distraction of an ad that is incredibly offensive not just to women but really it should be to all americans. >> james, any upside to this? >> there's no upside to these kinds of ads. we just need to remind republicans, remind the american people that essentially the affordable care act already has what viviana was talking about alr

only one small problem with this burn your obama care card plan. there are no such things as obamacare card. the freedom works isn't letting a little thing like not existing get in its way. >> freedom works is going to design the obama care card ourselves. put that online. share it with people in the hopes that they will burn it, tear it up. mark on it. >> jonathan, a columnist for new york magazine and the author of the new peace the plot to kill obama care why it drives republicans to madness. and the vice provost for global initiatives and chair of medical ethics and health policy at the university of pennsylvania. also joining us. jonathan, when you see that guy, with the completely straight face saying we are going to create the obama care card as if this is a way, reminiscen't of burning of the draft card. madness -- with the word in your title, is obviously what applies here. >> that's right. i mean -- the interesting thing is that, all of the wings of the republican party, the right-wing. far right-wing. and farthest right-wing are in agree

obama care? your thoughts. >> there's not a person in the country except for people who are drinking this tea party tea who believes that the president is going to walk away from obama care. it's not going to happen. 5.5 million people in my state with pre-existing conditions are going to get insurance and get it not at an increased rate come october 1. they're not going to have any lifetime limits anymore or annual limits. i mean, this is a very important program. and only thing i can say is that republicans have been on the wrong side of history. there's been team that wants more education, more health care, more jobs. and there's another team that wants to beat up on the president. we saw this with clinton. we see it with obama. anything the president's for, they're against. >> i think that's true with mr. messer. but let me ask you this. if you look back at the history and we all know the history, social security passed under roosevelt. it was opposed by the republican party. and since then t

care in a negative way as a result of obama care. people who own businesses are rapidly converting many of their employees to part-time work instead of full-time, downsizing their businesses. this law should be named the unemployment and unaffordable act because that is the impact it's having on our economy. >> there are a lot of negatives but there are also positives connected with obama care. i'm just going to run these statistics by you. so the majority of americans don't approve of boobama care, that's true. but 70% of americans do not understand what obama care is, so they're for or against something they really don't understand. whose fault is that? >> well, the supporters of this have had three and a half years to explain it. and the problem is, it is so complex that it can't be explained. that's the difficulty with the implementation. but they're about to get a lesson -- >> but isn't it part of your job too, congressman, to make your constituents understand the bad and the good associated with this bill? >> i spend a part of

devices that would help fund obama care. any house gop plan faces almost certain death in the senate. senate democratic leader harry reid has said any bill that would change obama care is absolutely unacceptable. we have got this story covered from every angle. we have complete coverage for you on this shutdown struggle. chief congressional correspondent dana bash is in washington. our senior white house correspondent jim acosta is in washington. our chief political analyst gloria borger is in washington as well. we've got you covered here. dana, we'll talk to you first. so, we expect this to pass the house tonight, but the big question is, what will the senate do and when? what are your sources telling you about this? >> the senate majority leader harry reid released a statement just a couple hours ago saying that he is confident the senate will reject what the house does and i'm told by a senior democratic leadership source they'll not come back to take it up to reject it until monday. they're not scheduled to come back un

act also known as obama care. cnn's renee marsh reports. >> reporter: dueling videos on both sides of the health care debate and on the opposing side, the videos are pushing the envelope. >> let's have a look. ♪ >> reporter: just days before americans begin to enroll for health care insurance under the affordable care act, self-described libertarian group generation opportunity released two web videos hoping to convince people not to enroll. lucas byonno helps conservative politicians use viral videos to get their message out. he says the ads could change enough minds to make a difference. >> in this society we live in, it's important to continuously produce content that's going to be innovative and this is one aspect that does that. where it's disturbing and new and fresh because if you just stay below the bar and put something out that's very standard, it won't fly. it won't resonate. >> reporter: one ad tracking agency says ads opposing the affordable health care act outnumber those for it by five to one. but

right now we're having this debate about defund obama care. your boss, grover norquist says it's crazy, it's batty, don't do it. he's saying, you're crazy. what's going to happen is, when the whole thing is over, then the center is going to keep the sequester funding. the sequester was the most controversial policy in all of domestic fiscal politics that we have seen in this country in several years. and it's going to be the base lane. sam, am i wrong about this? does it drive you crazy as it drives me crazy? >> yeah, it does, but it also speaks to some larger problem in our culture, where this notion that we're going to be punishing poor people for being poor, essentially. and what's also stunning is that we hear constant, and i think some of this is legitimate, that the economy, you know, from the right, that obama has tanked the economy, that the growth is sort of not really happening. there's some truth to that, but you can't turn around and say, and now we are going to punish the people who are suffering under that. >> explain to me why t

the issue of obama care is over. it was resolved in the last presidential election when the president was re-elected and said that he was going to continue with it. >> there's so much potential for bipartisan efforts to advance this legislation in the senate. but senator reid needs to bring up the proposal and adopt an attitude that is broader than our way or the highway. there's time left for us to work together. the senate needs to hustle. >> the republicans want the administration to believe that they now want only a delay. well, why don't they state that forthrightly and say they are now for the affordable health care act but they want to delay it because of certain issues and bring them forward? >> i'll show you some interesting numbers right now. september 20th, the house passed its spending bill with no funding for obama care. that vote was 230-189. pretty much a straight party vote with two democrats, one republican switching sides. early sunday morning, the house voted again. it was almost identical, 2230, 1

you cannot live with obama care? >> well, of course, mike lee and ted cruz and the advocates in the house, they never, ever, ever supported shutting down the government. what they said was that obama care wasn't ready for prime time. the president himself has acknowledged that it's not ready for prime time. sort of arbitrarily delaying the pieces that he doesn't like. every republican said they would repeal obama care. a lost democrats have described it as a train wreck. so what mike leigh and his house counterparts have suggested is let's fully fund every part of the government except this one piece that's not ready for prime time. there's nothing about a government shutdown in that strategy. everybody's freaking out so much i've got to believe we're on to something here. >> why would the united states senate, which is governed by the democrats, and the president of the united states, who is a democrat and the one who put this bill into action, who got it through the congress, why would he sign legislation which wou

or defunds obama care. that's out of here, that's off the table. forget about that. now, this proposal from house republicans to perhaps tinker with obama care, perhaps repeal that medical device tax that helps pay for obama care, that is not going to fly either with this white house. the president has said he is not going to do anything with obama care under the threat of a government shut down or a debt default and it's sort of ir irrelevant, because you heard what dana bash said a few moments ago, it's a nonstarter and dead on arrival in the senate. at this point the white house is sitting back and watching all of this dan pfeiffer, he's been on twitter all afternoon sort of responding to some of the news headlines coming out of the hill. and he said in one tweet, with respect to this proposal, that the house republicans are going to be taking up in a vote tonight, he said, quote, every smart goper is shedding a tear. the white house is trying to stay away from this and probably the reason the president

hearing obama care attacked is scaring some of the people who love obama care. like the family whose daughter has had three heart surgeries. they'll joan uin us. terrifying video from inside the navy yard massacre last week. a survivor who refused to leave his co-worker behind that will join me. walking the grounds. in tuscany. [ man ] her parents didn't expect her dreams to be so ambitious. italy? oh, that's not good. [ man ] by exploring their options, they learned that instead of going to italy, they could use a home equity loan to renovate their yard and have a beautiful wedding right here while possibly increasing the value of their home. you and roger could get married in our backyard. it's robert, dad. [ female announcer ] come in to find the right credit options for your needs. because when people talk, great things happen. >> president obama has taken note of the biggest political star in new york city, dante de blazio, he met president obama last night at a democratic fund raiser where the president endorsed dante's dad, nominee for mayor, bill de blaz

but that is what mike huckabee is promising, send me money and i will take care of obama care, even though there is no conceivable effort between getting your money and obama care. you see where people's fears and desires are poorly informed and very visceral, and then you capitalize on those ideas literally, but getting folks to send you their capital, to send you some of the money because you tricked them into thinking you will take care of it. that you will get it done. but in this case, this is not just a run of the mill con man, mike huckabee is a very specific con man. he came in second to john mccain in the running for president of the united states. the guy who came in second to mitt romney in that kind of race also has that same kind of gig, just set up a website and you go. rick santorum has kept close tabs on his great big donate button, as well. here you can see it at the bottom. donate today. rick santorum's was regarding the repeal of money to people. how will it stop the u.n. treaty? no idea. but hey, send money. here is a beg donate button on the rick santorum button, to ke

senator ted cruz's marathon speech attacking obama care. you'll hear from fellow republicans tonight and killer in action on attack inside the navy yard. chilling surveillance video shows the shooter running through the hallways with shotgun in hand and new clues as to what mysterious etchings on husband gun may mean and on the eve of a convicted rapist being released from prison. he was sentenced to 30 days and his victim was just 13 years old. i'll talk to the victim's mother ahead. we'll get to that over the next hour. a year-long investigation by cnn and the senator for investigative reporting found widespread fraud in california's drug rehab program that receives hefty amounts of federal taxpayer dollars known as your money obviously. as a result of our investigation, more than 100 drug rehab centers were suspended with their funding cut off and others were completely shut down. but tonight our investigation continues and it goes beyond just the clinics. it looks squarely at the doctors who serve as medical directors for the clinics. o

there are problems with obama care. we have had some polls saying there is great dissatisfaction at the town halls, but you haven't debated on how to change the law, what you have gone out and said let's kill the law, let's de-fund it. >> actually, with respect , david, i think it is wrong, i voted to repeal the law, but that was not my position in this fight. my position is de-fund it, which is different than repeal. and even now what the house of representatives has done is a step removed from de-funding. it is delaying it. now that is the essence of a compromise, delaying, simply on the same terms that has been done for the big corporations, that is a compromise. and at the same time, david, on the other side, what have the democrats compromised on? zero, their position is absolutely no, no matter what. >> you make this argument as if there is no broader context here. obama care has been -- has been adjudicated and it has been tested to the political system. and so let's go through that. we had an election where i he

all right. >> well, paul, obama care starts october 1st. and in preparation, cleveland's biggest employer, the renowned cleveland clinic announced it's going to have to cut $300 million out of its budget. it's going to offer early retirement to quite a few of its employees, and then that may be followed with layoffs. now clinics like the cleveland clinic medical centers are the same in pennsylvania and other states. and if they start getting hammered like this, i think people are going to greet obama care with a lot of raspberries. >> dan, thank you. remember, you have if your own hit or miss, send it to us at foxnews.com and follow us on twitter at jer@fnc. hope to see you right here next week. >>> fox news alert, a bloody attack rocking the capital city of kenya. new video in of adults and children running for their lives. look at this. we're learning that several gunmen stormed an upscale shopping center firing ak-47s, throwing grenades, allegedly targeting non-muslims. and the state department says that americans may be among the injure

for obama care. if you're one of the 48 million uninsured americans, you've got some decisions to make, starting october 1st. the cost of coverage under the new health care exchanges vary depending where you lib, the level of coverage and other factors. on this map the average costs are higher in dark blue states. say you live in ohio for a family of four making $50,000 a year you pay $282 a month for the midrange plan after tax credits. a single person making $25,000 a year would pay $110 for the lowest cost plan, once again, after tax credits. president obama's touting the benefits of his health care reform law while taking on republicans who are threatening to defund it. at a speech in maryland at president said the affordable care act is here to stay. >> five days from now, five days from now, on october 1st, millions of americans who don't have health insurance because they've been priced out of the market or because they've denied access because of a preexisting condition, they will finally be