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. >> there's a time and place to debate obama care. but not at a time when millions of innocent people are held hostage. >> simply delaying it for american families on the same terms as being done for big corporations, that's a compromise. >> reporter: some democrats say they'll consider the other string attached. getting rid of a tax on medical devices. >> but not with a gun to my head. not with the prospect of shutting down the government. >> reporter: who's to blame if there's a shutdown tonight? >> the president's the one saying, i will shut down government if you don't give me everything i want on obama care. >> he wants it because he wants the checkbook, he wants control. >> this was a calculated strategy to drive the country to the cliff and then say, give us what we want. >> reporter: there's a chance republicans could come back with one final offer today. with or without strings attached. >> 186 employees who would be furloughed. >> reporter: a last-ditch effort to keep 800,000 federal employees at work. that's about 40% of th

i disagree with obama care. i'm against obama care but we just do not have the votes in the senate right now to stop this and to follow on what's done in the house. we have the majority in the house. we don't have the nesma majority in the snachlt that's the bottom line so you have to deal with the reality in life and that's one of them. let's move on to other issues. this country has absolute crawling gdp and high unemployment and these are things that the congress can deal with. this one is not. >> i want you to weigh in. hillary clinton is saying, "if they want to shut the government down" that is on their head and responsibility. she warned that we have's seen this movie before and is she right about that. >> she's wrong. she's talking about 1995 when the government was shut down and bill clinton went on to re-election. president obama is notal popular right now. his favorability is very low. so the country views all of d.c. at fault but, you know, if we are heading into this, it's important to be a positive

there are problems with obama care. we have had some polls saying there is great dissatisfaction at the town halls, but you haven't debated on how to change the law, what you have gone out and said let's kill the law, let's de-fund it. >> actually, with respect , david, i think it is wrong, i voted to repeal the law, but that was not my position in this fight. my position is de-fund it, which is different than repeal. and even now what the house of representatives has done is a step removed from de-funding. it is delaying it. now that is the essence of a compromise, delaying, simply on the same terms that has been done for the big corporations, that is a compromise. and at the same time, david, on the other side, what have the democrats compromised on? zero, their position is absolutely no, no matter what. >> you make this argument as if there is no broader context here. obama care has been -- has been adjudicated and it has been tested to the political system. and so let's go through that. we had an election where i he

the affordable care act, obama care, however you want to talk about it, will still be implemented. think recent poll shows 45% of people heard nothing at all about the health insurance marketplace that are mandated by law. how much confusion is out there around this? >> there's a lot of confusion. unfortunately for the obama administration there have been some delays and what they call glitches in the rollout. we saw the latest come out this past week where the administration said they are postponing enrollment in small business exchanges is, as well as spanish language, which is central internet clearinghouse for the affordable care act. that's going to be delayed as well. right now a lot of things that the administration has worked out. but the essential heart of the law, they are open for enrollment october 1st. individual mandate kicks in 2014. that's why conservatives really want to fight this obama care battle now before the lobby comes even more implemented. >> bottom line, ed, what do you think? does it shut down or not? >> it looks like it's going to happen, alex. there's

care. >> i am psyched for obama care! >> there you go. i love that enthusiasm. >> because now that i've got free health care, i can get sick all the time! whoo! >> i have this friend, you know. and he got sick. like cancer sick. but because there was -- wasn't obama care, he couldn't afford the treatments so he was like backed into a corner, know what i mean? >> and keep in mind, this man was a teacher with a family. >> he was. he was. so he did what any of us would have done. he started cooking meth. >> i think we can probably wrap this up. >> wait, hold on, you know what happened to my friend? >> i'm told that was a "breaking bad" dude. this week's host and former cast member tina fey had the honoring of welcoming six new cast moebs to the historic sketch comedy show. ♪ really want to make it ♪ let me see you shake it good. good. that's very embarrassing. you're going to feel a deep shame coming up from here and out. it's natural. bring it home, nerds! ♪ ♪ got a great show ♪ so sing aloud and >> commit! let yo

. >> this whole fight is centered on obama care. one way or the other the president still promises it's happening tomorrow. >> all of that plus the story that would have been grabbing all the headlines today if not nor the shutdown. ♪ >> the bangles indeed are right, we're on a manic monday heading towards the first government shutdown in 17 years. right now the senate is back in action or back to inaction just nine hours, less than nine hours before the shutdown. once again, they have punted the ball back to the house. wall street is bracing for impact and even a one-week shutdown will cut a tenth of a percent off the economy. they are more concerned about the october 17th debt ceiling deadline that is fast coming and president obama met with senior staff this weekend to discuss the potential shutdown, but unlike past shutdown showdowns, aides say this time there's no back room talks happening between the president and capitol hill. the president says he expects to hear from congressional leaders later today. there's still time o

when asked why is it that you shut down the government at this point just to block obama care? he basically fessed up and said once consumers get hooked on having health insurance and subsidies, they won't want to give it up. you can look at the transcript. >> we told you before when it comes to policy and budget disputes, the party is united and always beats the party that isn't. it's hard to look at the gop and view them as a party that is united. the most immediate push is about getting consumers to sign up. president obama claims signing up will be as easy as buying a plane tick or flat screen tv. >> i can tell you that in many states across the country, if you are a 27-year-old young woman, don't have health insurance, you get on that exchange you will be able to purchase high quality health insurance for less than the cost of your cell phone bill. >> the white house is unveiling a report which they state shows that the first detailed look at premiums for health insurance in 36 states will run insurance markets. the second lowest cost silver plan will run an average of $32

>> replace obama care! >> get rid of obama care! repeal obama care! get rid of obama care. obama care! >> day one, president romney moves to repeal obama care. >> obama care! obama care! >> obama care! >> all all of obama care. >> i'm the one that's going to get rid of obama care. we're going to stop it on day one! >> remember 2012, the presidential election, about how obama care just never came up? it's like it wasn't even an issue in the campaign. so nobody ever expected that that election would have settled anything about obama care. >> you had said, next year, that you would repeal the health care vote. that still your mission? >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected, obama care is the law of the land. >> well, now the latest republican argument for shutting down the government in order to stop obama care is that it was never addressed as an issue in the presidential campaign. this is the point where the way your friend told you that you should calm down, use deep breaths, this is the time for deep breaths. preside

we all know they're not going to end up getting rid of obama care. so then they're going to double down on this fight on the debt ceiling. because what happened, as you said, look, ted cruz went around the country. he got everybody worked up. all the far right folks. now it is going over in the senate. he is not going to be able to prevail, ted cruz. so then they're going to try to take this whole fight -- >> it is only going to make that fight worse, they will lose this and double down in the next fight. >> in fact, if you look at the plan that came out of the house republican caucus today, it was plan b, plan a was let's do this on the continuing resolution. but backup plan b, okay, if we don't succeed we'll take it to the debt ceiling. as you know, it is bad enough to be playing with government shutdown, but you're playing with the economic equivalent of nuclear weapons when you're playing with the debt ceiling. >> thank you so much, joining me now, the democrat from oregon. all right, ball is in your court. the house is going to pass a continuing

to -- as this obama carrollout, you know, and crisscrossing the country trying to get this obama care off to a successful start because, you know, i think that there is an interesting nexus. if you think all the way back to 2008 during that epic primary battle, it was hillary care and so i think that it's beneficial to the clintons if obama care is implemented. >> quickly, what could you make of his comments regarding putin and syria? >> well, you know, i think that with regards to putin and syria, i think that we're starting to see people moving forward. but clearly the president -- the former president is supporting obama and it's going to be interesting to see how their relationship evolves over these next couple of years, especially as we head into 2014 and inch closer to 2016. >> all right, kevin cirilli with politico, thanks. >>> the mystery over who won that $400 million jackpot finally solved or is it. >>> if you love french fry, stick around. we have big news ahead. the job jugglers. the up all-nighters. and the ones who turn ideas into action. we've made our passions our lif

care. >> nothing to do with obama care. employers want to have full-time employs because it makes sense for them to do that. that will not change. >> number two, for you, ryan, the irs is coming for you. not true. >> well, i mean, the irs is not going to be coming after companies because they delayed that for one year. you know, let's say the irs did come for you. the penalty is something like -- wendel would know the exact number. it's something like $75. it's not a huge fee when you're at the end of the year, either writing your tax bill or you're getting your refund back. so this is not something where the irs is remotely incentivized to be sending out any s.w.a.t. teams of agents to collect this change from people. >> you know what i love about this one, they conveniently forget about the part that republicans inserted last year when we were having a conversation about women's rights that essentially women would have to prove to the irs if they'd had an abortion, they'd have to prove that it was the rape exception by pr

but that is what mike huckabee is promising, send me money and i will take care of obama care, even though there is no conceivable effort between getting your money and obama care. you see where people's fears and desires are poorly informed and very visceral, and then you capitalize on those ideas literally, but getting folks to send you their capital, to send you some of the money because you tricked them into thinking you will take care of it. that you will get it done. but in this case, this is not just a run of the mill con man, mike huckabee is a very specific con man. he came in second to john mccain in the running for president of the united states. the guy who came in second to mitt romney in that kind of race also has that same kind of gig, just set up a website and you go. rick santorum has kept close tabs on his great big donate button, as well. here you can see it at the bottom. donate today. rick santorum's was regarding the repeal of money to people. how will it stop the u.n. treaty? no idea. but hey, send money. here is a beg donate button on the rick santorum button, to ke

obama care has been the law for four years. why don't they get a life and talk about something else? >> not going to be extorted, get a life. those were what democrats. but today tea party extremists also heard it from other republicans. >> we are dividing the republican party rather than attacking democrats. it's very dysfunctional. the american people do not want the government shut down. >> have you ever seen this kind of in-fighting between one party? >> no. >> the house gop will meet tomorrow at noon to talk about what to do next. but tonight it's a field trip to the movies. believe it or not, house republicans are all going out to see the new film "prisoners." it's about a villain taking hostage. yes, hostages. what is this? a how-to manual for republicans? will they be taking notes? but this is real life, real people were hurt. republicans better stop these playing games and face reality. they'll be facing reckoning with the american people. joining me now is congresswoman jan schakowsky from illinois. and melissa harris

. >> and oregon is putting out ads for the obama care exchanges, well put them up. senator murphy, who is instrumental on the draw. if you were happy about that, senator jeff murkley played a big role in that. >> thank you so much. all right, congressman a, you and i do not agree on the substance here. so we'll stipulate that and say we will not solve that in the news segment. so i just want to talk strategy here, okay? you guys are going to pass a continuing resolution that strips out funding for obama care. what happens if it is dead on arrival in the senate? what happens here? >> it depends, one of the best things that chris says and i happen to agree with him, is what it does is move to the senate which is where the battle needs to take place. we're house supporters of what rand paul and lee are trying to do on the house floor. if it was just up to the house we would have solved the obama care issue a long time ago, so the battle needs to be over. >> you're already doing the thing the house republicans are doing already. which is shift the blame to the senate, w

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at the heart of fight, obama care. we've assembled our congressional summit with four key lawmakers from the senate and the house. my key question, what is the end game? plus, another mass shooting. this time at the navy yard here in washington. what can be done to prevent these tragedies in the future? in a meet the press exclusive, nra executive vice president wayne la pierre joins hee and i'll speak with the mother of an aurora, colorado, shooting victim. >> plus our roundtable on the budge ept battles, the split within the gop an president's policy with iran. weekly standard bill kris tol, tavis smiley, robert gibbs, call spreet journal's kim stras he will. i'm david gregory. all that ahead for meet the press, sunday, september 22nd. >>> good morning. we'll get to the government shutdown in a moment. the breaking news we're tracking in nairobi, kenya. one of the deadliest acts of terror in east africa since the u.s. embassies were attacked in 199. ron allen is on the phone where the hostages are still being held. h

obama care? because he hasn't really made the case. he's been out there talking about obama care for many years now, and the polls just haven't changed. you do have a situation now where you have people like bill clinton stepping in and talking about obama care, some celebrities talking about it as well, reaching, i think, those young people that you mentioned voted for obama. in some ways, i think they have tuned out and might be harder to reach at this point. you wonder about the ambassadors they'll sort of try to enlist to sell obama care because so far obama and his administration haven't done a good job. >> michael, quickly, what do you make of this, taking obama out of -- i am befuddled by that. nevertheless, what do you think? >> i think he's got to bring those skills that he's had on the campaign trail but has not fully been able to implement while he's in office to sell this. he hasn't really been supported by members of his own party in that regard. to nia malika's point, stuff's going

care and doesn't realize he's talking about obama care. they are hating on this without understanding what they are talking about because they've been dealing with -- >> you just blew my mind. >> thank you. they are dealing with demagoguery by the republicans. when you don't need a safety net program and don't have people in your immediate world who need a safety net program, it takes a certain moral imagination and empathy to understand the value and want to be behind it. i thnk a lot of americans are operating without the imagination and empathy for folks. >> it's about the quality and cost -- >> it's about a community and making sure that everybody in america is taken care of. >> i don't know that's -- >> other nations are taking care of everybody -- >> i don't think everyone wants that though. >> that's not fair to the american people because what you see in polling time and time again when they are asked about the specific provisions of obama care, they support it. it's just the big scary word of obama care -- >> one size fits all. >>

you need to fight obama care. i think in many ways he's raised obama care up as an issue. but i think his short-term strategy is obviously failing. we were never going to defund obama care through the -- >> okay. let's go back to where i'm at on this guy. i watched this guy's debut. i know first impressions don't tell you everything, but they tell you a hell of a lot. i watched him in the hearings for chuck hagel who is a patriot. he fought for his country unlike a lot of us. he fought in vietnam for real, just like john mccain did. for real. not chicken hawks here. real soldiers who fought and suffered for it. and he accused him in his joe mccarthy fashion of taking money from the north koreans. he said he could have taken the money from the saudis. all this loose talk that even lindsey graham came out and said out of bounds. that's why i call him mccarthy. not just because he looks like the guy. he acts like him. he has contempt for the american political system. he's not a member of any political party i can tell. he got elected, fair enough. but his behavior has been t

for obama care. >> there you go. i love that enthusiasm. >> because now that i've got free health care, i can get sick all the time. >> i had this friend. well, he got sick. like cancer sick. because there wasn't obama care, he couldn't afford the treatments, so he was like backed into a corner. you know what i mean? >> and keep in mind, this man was a teacher with a family. >> he was. he was. so he did what any of us would have done, he started cooking meth. >> i think we can probably wrap this up. from new mexico. >> do you want to know what happened to my friend? >> no. what if we could keep enough plastic waste to cover mt. rainier out of landfills each year? by using one less trash bag each month, we can. and glad forceflex bags stretch until they're full.* so you can take them out less often. still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. i have a big meeting when we

obama care does not blow up the entire system. in fact, the main thing the law does is deliver millions of new customers to the private insurance industry which is kind of the opposite of blowing up the system. it's adding to the system. if you're home watching this right now, the odds are extremely high that essentially nothing aside from some added benefits and protections is going to change about your health insurance on october 1th when the health changes go live online or january 1st when they start ensuring people. nothing at all. but there's something else steve and his friends seem completely obtuse about. >> there's a new poll out this thorng that morning this says, take a guess. how many people in this country, what percentage have insurance now for this very first time because of affordable care act? how many? what p percent? >> i mean, i'd go 20. 20%. >> wait. >> wait. 20%. that is a terrible guess. considering that he just said 15% of the country didn't have health insurance. >> what percent? >> i mean, i'd go 20. let

i feel sorrow -- >> but what about delaying obama care. >> obama care is the law of the land. it was voted on, it was passed. then the supreme court ruled on it. when have we ever tried to delay the law of the land? and it goes back to what speaker boehner said some time ago which just does not make sense. as opposed to trying to pass a bill that we know we can pass, he says it's not about how many bills we pass, it's about how many bills we stop, which is not the way we move america forward. and michael grimm, you know, i can see the frustration on him in his voice or hear the frustration in his voice because he knows that there are individuals in his party that are not rational and they are holding up the process and that this pending shutdown that we look like we're headed toward is devastating to the american people. he knows that and some other republicans know that. so we can't allow the 60 or so tea partiers to take this government down. >> one of the things that you hear from republicans is that look at the polls. our recent poll found 44% said obama care is a bad idea

obama care! >> obama care! >> all all of obama care. >> i'm the one that's going to get rid of obama care. we're going to stop it on day one! >> remember 2012, the presidential election about how obama care just never came up? it's like it wasn't even an issue in the campaign. so nobody ever expected that that election would have settled anything about obama care. >> you had said next year that you would repeal the health care vote. that still your mission? >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected, obama care is the law of the land. >> well, now the latest republican argument for shutting down the government in order to stop obama care is that it was never addressed as an issue in the presidential campaign. this is the point where the way your friend told you that you should calm down, use deep breaths, this is the time for deep breaths. president obama today went to maryland and gave a speech about health reform, and he has given a million speeches about h

is a vote for obama care. >> so, how does he now disentangled himself from the web he has woven? >> what's fascinating is ted cruz being unpopular among republicans, that's not new. what's new is they have been a little bit more public about it. i think that ted cruz is not interested in rising up the leadership ranks. i think he is interested in running for president one day. this week offers him the opportunity to bolster outside credentials. he does not have to show that he could round up 41 votes to keep a final vote on what we expect to be a bill stripped of defending obama care language. i see that as virtually impossible. he will do everything within his mower to insure that he makes his point. he is likely to emerge from an outsider. if you are hated by many people within your own party. i think he has to show that he is more than just talk here. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> and more on those prime time emmys where "modern family" and "breaking bad" were big winners. the shortest speech was the best supporting actress. >> thank you so much. i got to go, bye. >

plan. >> they'll hold obama care hostage. >> to funding the government. >> repeal obama care. >> i'm tired of it. >> president obama is again calling on congress to do

you need to fight obama care. i think in many ways he's raised obama care up as an issue. but i think his short-term strategy is obviously failing. we were never going to defund obama care through the -- >> okay. let's go back to where i'm at on this guy. i watched this guy's debut. i know first impressions don't tell you everything, but they tell you a hell of a lot. i watched him in the hearings for chuck hagel who is a patriot. he fought for his country unlike a lot of us. he fought in vietnam for real, just like john mccain did. for real. not chicken hawks here. real soldiers who fought and suffered for it. and he accused him in his joe mccarthy fashion of taking money from the north koreans. he said he could have taken the money from the saudis. all this loose talk that even lindsey graham came out and said out of bounds. that's why i call him mccarthy. not just bauss he looks like the guy. he acts like him. he has contempt for the american political system. he's not a member of any political party i can tell. he got elected, fair enough. but his behavior has been tot

example in obama care. and the fact is they have the public on their side but they're entering a very dangerous debate and trying to make it about the president. that is going to be a lose lose situation. the fact is, the republicans trying to go out and defund obama care which is not going to pass the senate, which the president is not going to sign, is really going to end up giving hurting them in the long run. people are looking for solutions right now. there are those republicans even though they're far and few right now in the house who are trying to get there. >> you know, susan, as the republican here, how frustrated are you? >> very. it is -- it's very frustrating to see this argument because right now, we're looking at people who are more concerned like ted cruz and marco rubio who are more concerned about running for president and getting their name i.d. instead of trying to find a solution. if republicans really wanted to play it straight with the american public, they would say here are the thin

obama care is the law of the land. it has been for several years. the supreme court upheld it. we had a 2012 election that centered on it. the idea that harry reid is forcing it on us is just -- it's reprof preposterous that this is the rhettic he's using and why he's making no friends on either side. >> the gop fears obama care will eventually be credited for w slowing the rise of health care costs to a more manageable rate. i want to play a clip from cruz on what he calls a discrepancy in the prediction of obama care costs for the average family. let's listen. >> the president promised a $2500 cut for the average family of four. instead you're looking at a $7500 increase. that's a $10,000 swing. judd, these numbers, is that accurate? >> well, it's not. you know, we delved into the numbers on our website, think progress, and found that actually the reason why there's going to be a little more spending or quite a bit more spending on health care is because eventually 30 more million people are going to get coverage. so if you already have health care, the idea that your costs a

president obama says his health care law is here to stay. the house speaker says republicans will not rest until it's reputed. racial maddow joins me now. >> feels like it's going to happen. >> deja vu all over again as jogi berra would say. we thought as the senate is clearing the way, stripping the stripping out of health care to the senate, sending it back over to the house. john boehner says they won't send it as a clean bill in the senate. >> no matter what happens in the senate the house is going to make sure we have a shutdown no matter what. >> what are they thinking. >> on the republican side, the negotiations on what they seem to be having about what they are doing next, what they are saying they are going to do next seem to be evolving faster than public pronouncements confirm the whole idea let ted cruz have the long speech in the senate, vote will happen when it's supposed to happen, that will give john boehner enough time to move. john boehner says it doesn't matter i'm not moving anyway. then why did you let senate republicans

we have an obama care bill driving up costs. as you see over and over again, it's companies like home depot, the cleveland clinic that the president praised, trader joe's, all opting out of obama care and sending folks to the exchanges. so what the house of representatives is doing is reflecting what the people want right now, which is to get out of obama care. the administration itself, one of the things that congressman pascrell forgot to mention is they're the ones that proposed delaying the mandate because they knew it's not ready and the adverse impact that it's having on businesses. frankly, if anyone is not listening to the will of the american people right now, it's the democrats who are standing in the way of that. >> sean, i'd like to respectfully challenge you because we have a new poll that shows a majority of americans oppose shutting down the government if it means that it's linked to defunding the new health care law. you hear this refrain commonly that this is about the will of the people. but if in fact polls in

, or something in the mail that assets you're enrolled in obama care. the state will call it the grand canyon exchange and you'll start getting your health care through that. i bet you people who have this experience will like this. by and large, they will like the experience. i'm not sure they will suddenly make the connection this is obama care working. they'll say this is the grand canyon connection working. i don't like obama care. >> fak, brilliant. >> professor, speaking of future elections, senator ted cruz thought by many to be a leading contender for the 2016 nomination put out a tv spot about the affordable care act. take a listen to this. >> there's bipartisan agreement that obama care isn't working. democratic senator max baucus, the lead author of obama care said it's a huge train wreck. >> he continues to lie about the contents of this law, professor peterson. >> again, fakes matter. it is working. it is still a complex piece of legislation that will require some tweaking and require some effort from the politicals on both sides of the ais

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obama care is the law of the land. this just provides a platform for him to show just how long he can bloviate. >> the daily beast says there's every reason to believe that the future belongs to the wacko birds and their general transpartisan message that government is too big and too powerful. do you think that voters are so skeptical of washington right now that they actually might believe in the cruz message? >> not at all. i think the majority of voters, and polls have shown this, the majority of voters want congress to continue funding the affordable care act. they want to see the law implemented. i think it will happen once the law goes online in less than a week, people start enrolling, they'll start collecting benefits and see the premiums are much lower than they expected and you'll have a large constituency of americans who all of a sudden have affordable health insurance and don't want to see it go away. people like ted cruz who honestly i think is just gripping conservatives with a message he knows is going

this issue for someone like cruz on obama care, american are very clear where they are on obama care. their question is, now what? what are you going to do next? that's a very different dynamic in presidential politics for people who have starting to warm up. they're going to see rand paul having more substance to the argument than cruz at this point. >> michael steele, again, i'm sure you're very happy you're not in charge of the party right now. >> wouldn't want to be in this spot, no. >> they're acting like democrats. unsurprisingly, senator ted cruz's comments are already creating online buzz. he's the top trending topic on twitter. "the huffington post" tweeted this, having "green eggs and ham" now printed in the congressional record. not something you see every day. and when he brought in star wars, that prompted buzzfeed to create this image. rand paul gets top billing as luke skywalker. okay ladies, whenever you're ready. thank you. thank you. i got this. oh, no, i'll get it! let me get it. uh-uh-uh. i don't want you to pay for this. it's not happening, honey. let her get it.

act also known as obama care. they are actually willing to plunge america into default if we can't de-fund the affordable care act. >> house republicans were at the wheel this morning when they passed a short term bill to fund the government and avoid a shutdown on october 1st but it was also another chance to him the brakes on obama care. >> nice. >> why does it feel we're driving in circles? >> because we are. >> this place is a mess. let's get our house in order. what is brought to the floor today is without a doubt -- without a doubt a measure designed to shut down government. >> at a time when the economy is barely eking along, wages are aren't increasing, new jobs aren't available and what are we doing? we're putting more costs and more inconvenience on the american people? and so our message to the united states senate is real simple, the american people don't want the government shutdown and they don't want obama care. [ applause ] >> let's broaden this out to planes and trains and automobiles theme becaus

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environment and what obama care does in a government-sent rick, government controlled environment. >> if we would delay it by one year, we would alleviate the problem to 1 million. we've got to go. thank you so much. representative marcia black burn. joy ann reid is knowledge inning editor for "the grillo".com and lee fong is a contributing writer. starting with you, what do you think about what she said right now? she seems to be very confident that speaker boehner looks not to be a spokesperson or mouthpiece, but is still leading here? can you put into context how damaging and what is happening right now including the comments that have been coming from ted cruz? >> what's interesting here is who's driving this agenda? if you asked congresswoman blackburn and many of her colleagues why they're doing this, they're saying they're responding to the republican base and they point to americans with prosperity and the 60-plus association and the tea party express is calling for this defunding vote, but as it came out earlier this week virtually these votes are run by the coke brothers so

care. >> i think president obama is the most radical president we've ever seen. but i think an awful lot of republicans fail to stand for principle and contributed to getting us in this mess. >> if standing for liberty and the constitution makes you a wha whacko, bird make me a proud whack bird. >> the author of bush's brain, always a great pleasure to talk with you. the first question i have, ted cruz is seen as a likely republican presidential candidate. but it never follows with exactly who other than the tea party which as we well know cannot get you to the white house exclusively. >> it can't. i was with ted cruz a couple of months ago in iowa where he met with a group of pastors and absolutely dazzled these pastors who were important in places like iowa among social conservatives. their somewhat different than tea party voters with fiscal issues. social conservatives that ted cruz is trying to appeal to. he thinks that if he can consolidate those two factions on the right of the party and has a chance to become the gop nominee in 2016. >> behind the scenes

affordable health care if obama care goes into effect as it will very, very soon. what they've got to do is get real. they've got to sober up. they lost the fight on obama care in the house. they lost it in the supreme court. and then they lost it in the presidential election. so, what are they going to do? they're saying they're willing to blow up the country, debt default and government shutdown in order to save americans from having access to health care. that's literally what's going on and they're coming up with a sort of crack pot plan after another. the speaker's got to deal with, but it's all about using as leverage, the shutdown and default to defeat health care for all americans. >> in the short-term, it seems to me and tell me if i'm wrong, that if the speaker did bring to the floor a clean continuing resolution, something that didn't say anything about obama care, that did what the senate has done, which says we're going to continue to fund the government, it seems to me like every democrat in the house would probably vote for that and probably enough r

, they get spared some of the burdens of obama care. but those who were struggling, single moms and young people and people who are just trying to make it. >> you're a proponent of the law, millions are getting access to health care they couldn't otherwise afford. parents with children, others with conditions getting in the way of insurance. i spoke to a hospital administrator this week in illinois saying utilization is down, you can't know what the effect of five years from now is on this law. and nor can proponents of the law. but here is one argument, you've made yours, and the president, when he spoke this week, referred to your words. i want to play a portion, suggesting what you really don't want is the law to go forward because people may start to like it, this is what he said. >> he said it is going to prove almost impossible to undo obamacare, right? so in other words, we've got to shut this thing down before people find out that they like it. >> you don't think americans will like it? you don't think that 25% of the state of t

health care if obama care goes into effect as it will very, very soon. what they've got to do is get real. they lost the fight on obama care. in the house. they lost it in the supreme court. and then they lost it in the presidential election. so, what are they going to do? they're saying they're willing to blow up the country, debt default and government shutdown in order to save americans from having access to health care. that's literally what's going on and they're coming up with a sort of crack pot plan after another. the speaker's got to deal with, but it's all about using as leverage, the shutdown and default to defeat health care for all americans. >> in the short-term, it seems to me and tell me if i'm wrong, that if the speaker did bring to the floor a clean continuing resolution, something that didn't say anything about obama care, that did what the senate has done, which says we're going to continue to fund the government, it seems to me like every democrat in the house would probably vote for that and probably enough republicans would vote fo

a threat to defund obama care and the struggle to pass immigration reform. a few weeks later, these issues have been pushed to the back burner as congress returns to a tough vote on syria, pushed aside but not forgotten. in the next three weeks we face the implementation of the affordable care act, debt ceiling fight, again, additional sequester cuts and expiring farm bill, debate over comprehensive immigration reform and sexual assault. oh, and i'm sure we will hear a thing or two about benghazi. joining me now, editorial page editor for washington examiner. perry bacon, and professor defrancesca desoto. i want to start with you, mark. it seems syria may overshadow some of these items. but one of the things we heard this week from buck mckion is that his putting forward the suggestion that they hold the syria resolution hostage for certain cuts that the gop wants in the sequester. are we going to really see that kind of horse trading going on? >> i wouldn't be at all surprised to see something like that. i think mckion's point is that there is a growing fee

it's why obama care is only looking at 39% approval in the polls. that's the corner of the leadership thinks they really would have the president in. they know the defund movement which is different than delay is unrealistic. it wouldn't work. and that a majority of americans put in polls don't want it to be defunded or entirely repealed. >> also i think -- you know, this was a clever shift. they've gone from, again, shutdown, which i think the republicans recognized they would have taken a big hit on that. to a message that outilizes the debt ceiling which more people don't fully understand. they've gone from defund to delay. it still has that feeling of desperation that, you know, once we hit october 1st and the program really comes online, the more people in the system, the more it's working, the more president obama gets credit and it feels like that is the one thing the republicans feel like they cannot have happen. we unfortunately are to leave it there. i want to thank a.b. stoddard and james pettersson. >> thanks, karen. >>> next, 50 years a

you have to say listen, we passed obama care in 2010. and in 2012 the president was re-elected, the house republicans lost eight seats, they ran on this and lost in the u.s. senate and the white house, the supreme court has ruled this. he's got to explain what this bill does but also that we can't go back and change -- this is the law of the land. but secondly, the upcoming fight on the debt limit. we cannot hold our economy hostage on these radicals that are trying to ruin our economy and frankly hold hold the president and every day families hostage with this fight. >> patrick, one last question before we let you go. do you know the answer to this? when was the last time a huntsman was in costco? >> well, i think -- >> the answer is actually 1996. i don't know -- >> come on. >> thank you, tour'e, i was there last week. >> my wife is republican and abby is like my wife, moderate republican. >> good love all around. >> well done, patrick. >> we've just learned the president will make a statement at 3:30 eastern, expecting to comment on t