one, a one year delay of obama care. that's their answer to harry reid and senate democrats stripping that defund effort we heard so much about. the second amendment is a repeal of a medical device tax that helped to fund obama care. it sounds like a small issue. why are republicans putting that in there? because senate democrats voted to repeal that tax don't like it they're trying to put political pressure on democrats not to flip flop on the little medical device tax. if they flip flop, harry reid has procedural problems. they're trying to put on political pressure. they'll do one more thing, pass a companion bill to fund the pentagon and troops in the event of shutdown so troops aren't left without pay. >> we heard from senator harry reid say he is not dealing with any piece of legislation that does anything to obama care. what are you hearing from senate staffers. >> reporter: he said that. they're saying the same thing. procedurally it is pretty interesting, we think we know where this is probably headed based on t

because of obama care. let's say you're an employer, you pay him $150,000, now a $5,000 health care example, now $10,000. i'm giving worst example. it's not like i'm going to fire you because -- or there goes your raise because i had to buy you a bonus which is a much more expensive health care plan. >> doesn't that hurt the economy because people don't have as much money to spend? >> what we're doing, brenda -- yes, exactly. we're taking money from the individual and giving it to the government run this obama care thing. let's look at the examples. we're giving the none to the government is an efficient transfer of funds. it's not. i think jonas made the mention this money is -- >> oh, come on. >> jonas says the money isn't going to go poof and vanish. that is what happens when you give it to the government. it's wasteful spending. i can't think of a governmental agency where you say they're efficient. no, we give the money to the government. it's spent less efficiently than if i h it. >> you get better he

tuesday marks the roll out of obama care. the bureau of labor statistics will release the jobs report for the month of september. that's typically a market mover. >>> finally, diamonds are forever or you hope when they are worth a million dollars a carat. on november 13th, a rare 59.6 carat diamond will be auctioned dubbed the pink star for $60 million in geneva, switzerland. the grass pink sold for 46.2 million back in 2010. the owner is not being disclosed. that will do it for today. thank you for joining me. my guest next week is eric shmitz. have great week. see you next weekend. [captioning made possible by nbc universal] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- life revolves around the ocean and they live in the only residential house on the nautical mile. priscilla works here. and it is here that superstorm sandy touched down and destroyed their home. we surprise them to let them know they are being rescued. >> my name is priscilla and i am from freeport on the nautical mile. the not a call mil

one, a one year delay of obama care. that's their answer to harry reid and senate democrats stripping that defund effort we heard so much about. the second amendment is a repeal of a medical device tax that helped to fund obama care. it sounds like a small issue. why are republicans putting that in there? because senate democrats voted to repeal that tax, don't like it, they're trying to put political pressure on democrats not to flip flop on the little medical device tax. if they flip flop, harry reid has procedural problems. they're trying to put on political pressure. they'll do one more thing, pass a companion bill to fund the pentagon and troops in the event of shutdown so troops aren't left without pay. >> we heard from senator harry reid say he is not dealing with any piece of legislation that does anything to obama care. what are you hearing from senate staffers. >> reporter: he said that. they're saying the same thing. procedurally it is pretty interesting, we think we know where this is probably headed based on

because of obama care. let's say you're an employer, you pay him $150,000, now a $5,000 health care example, now $10,000. i'm giving worst example. it's not like i'm going to fire you because -- or there goes your raise because i had to buy you a bonus which is a much more expensive health care plan. >> doesn't that hurt the economy because people don't have as much money to spend? >> what we're doing, brenda -- yes, exactly. we're taking money from the individual and giving it to the government run this obama care thing. let's look at the examples. we're giving the none to the government is an efficient transfer of funds. it's not. i think jonas made the mention this money is -- >> oh, come on. >> jonas says the money isn't going to go poof and vanish. that is what happens when you give it to the government. it's wasteful spending. i can't think of a governmental agency where you say they're efficient. no, we give the money to the government. it's spent less efficiently than if i had it. >> you get better

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in obama care. people are simply reading the bill now. the more they find out about it, theypeople, individuals, moms, dads, teenagers, children, seeing the effects in their hope budget and in their health care when it companies y comes to ob care. they're feeling it every day in their lives at home. it's not about someone spending money and giving it to them and telling them it's bad. >> protesting and understanding it. maybe like nancy pelosi. have to read it to find out exactly what's in it. >> everybody's playing catch-up. which illustrates the scary nature of this debate. we listened to the media for years about this bill and how great it was. now you listen to the people that are dealing with it, which are the real doctors, who are exasperated. to they, obama care is a fatal disease. it's like smoking. it saves money by cutting a decade off your life. nobody in the medical industry, like, sees this as a good thing. you can look at the numbers of doctors leaving now because they can't see thems

and the durability of obama care is right there. with these quick votes against it. >> they're going to shut down the government over it. they tried to. >> right now, it looks like that would backlash against them like it backlashed against newt gingrich and his regime in the '90s. the innithing we got to talk ab the mid terms or the general elections. in the mid-terms, i think african-americans and a lot of other voters tend to vote democrat are less likely to show up and it's harder to generate that same kind much energy and you've also got a lot of safe districts. so people are better about turning out. >> congressman meeks, do you hear people talk about these characters? i've never seen this right wing so virulent basically trying to erase obama. kill the baby in its crib with obama care. make sure it's like he's barry bonds. he didn't hit all the homers. there's something wrong with this. it seems like that's what they're trying to do. >> history will reflect that. they're going to show the kind of individuals that were in cong

it allows us to do is get to the stability for the security and fairness for the american people on obama care. >> they want to turn it over to the insurance industry and let l them discriminate. it's not acceptable.ccep >> if the government shutsdownwn many core functions including military operations and the processing of medicare claims and social security would stop. president obama doesn't believe that the g.o.p. is fighting fair. >> anything that is remoted rem associated with me they feel obliged to oppose. my argument is simple: that's not why the people sent you you here. >> some lawmakers are leary about this talk. the last time they shuttered the government was 28 days in 199595 and beginning of 1996. the america public largely blamed, guess who? congress. >> stock futures are soaring s after news that larry summers withdrew his name as candidate for federal reserve chairman. he had been a top economic aid for the administration.. the current federal vice chair c is considered the front runner for the post and could become b the first women to lead the t federal bank. >> raisin

to obama care. >> can i just comment on guns? i don't know if that was the right place to talk about guns. because if you -- could have gotten maybe speck aboific about he meant. who is he compromising with? the left and the far left? there's no other -- there's no one else he's talking to about guns. if he would, he would talk about mental health. it's not really about rounding up guns. it's about looking at the people who have guns. i don't know. gun free zones create a fair ground of sitting ducks. >> somebody who was at a mental -- in a mental institution, should they have guns? you ask them. >> well, they can't. weem done this time and time. >> the law's in place lshgs bob. >> if you've been admitted into a mental institution -- >> he worse. >> forcibly admitted against your will, then you cannot get a gun. he was not, bob, ever. >> i'm saying anybody -- >> that's what happens, it become, a strongman argument where there's nothing really to fight against. he's not arguing against anybody. and he's not compromising with anybo

[laughter] >> it will not be called obama care. so if it is good it won't be called obama-care. what is your prediction? >> i think lit be still be called obama-care for good or ill, that is the name it has got. it has stuck. i think the president may be a little overoptimistic about how much people will love various provisions, for good or ill, which is the central thing his presidency will be identified with? >> i think they will like the obama-care, and forget about the name. >> all right. thank you both. straight ahead, the unseld story of home schooling, reading writing and in some cases abuse? serious concerns about a rapidly growing industry. now she shifting her focus to relief work, she joins us later to tell us why. women's prisons. >> the system is setup to do exactly what it's doing - to break people and to keep them broken. that's all i have an real money. victoria azarenko >> every sunday night al jazeera america presents gripping films, from the worlds top documentary directors >> this is just the beginning of somthing much bigger... >> this sunday...the premier o

aynor is going to need -- john boehner is going to need democrats. >> the huge pushback on obama care is coming from the democratic constituency. afl-cio is having to struggle to keep them from passing a asking for a repeal of the dam thing. the unions are so unhappy. a strategy would he, let it the enacted. let opposition emerge on the liberal side, and then it elapses and then it craters. >> the parts of it are more -- parts of it are more popular than the whole. and republicans do not have an answer. they say we like all those parts, but we are against the plan. look at the new york democratic may oral primary mayoral- may oral -- primary results. voters that the candidate has an african american wife. final days of the campaign, mayor bloomberg had something rather unattractive say about that. turned this campaign, specifically this ad, racist. he had his own family in the ad, in americanradition politics. he carried african-american males, females, whites, hispanics. it was an across-the-board sweep, and i think mike fact thatresents the he was the non-bloomberg candidate. weiner

. >> there's a time and place to debate obama care. but not at a time when millions of innocent people are held hostage. >> simply delaying it for american families on the same terms as being done for big corporations, that's a compromise. >> reporter: some democrats say they'll consider the other string attached. getting rid of a tax on medical devices. >> but not with a gun to my head. not with the prospect of shutting down the government. >> reporter: who's to blame if there's a shutdown tonight? >> the president's the one saying, i will shut down government if you don't give me everything i want on obama care. >> he wants it because he wants the checkbook, he wants control. >> this was a calculated strategy to drive the country to the cliff and then say, give us what we want. >> reporter: there's a chance republicans could come back with one final offer today. with or without strings attached. >> 186 employees who would be furloughed. >> reporter: a last-ditch effort to keep 800,000 federal employees at work. that's about 40% of th

obama care. fully implement the president's health care plan and a repeal of a tax on medical devices that help fund it. any house gop plan faces certain death in the senate. harry reid said any bill that would change obama care is unacceptable. we have this whole thing covered for you. we are on top of it, every angel. gloria is standing by. at the capital, chief congretion that correspondent, dana bash standing by as well. gloria, i want to go to you first. why would house republicans push changes to obama care in senate democrats insist, insist it's a nonstarter? >> reporter: well, have you ever heard of a show boat, don? i think that's what this is. precisely because they know that it isn't going to go anywhere in the senate. this gives a republican party, which hans been divided over substance using continuing resolution to defund obama care an easy vote. they can all unite around the fact they don't like the president's health care plan. they know the president's health care plan is not ver

something to say other than repeal obama care. this happened before and they always find a way through. there will be more -- >> are they going to be able to find a way through vis a vis obama care? >> no, when they have to. the government can't shut down and the republicans understand that is a political disaster for them. they will find a way to pass a bill that keeps the government open. they don't know what the way is yet. they are supposed to go back into recess around the 20th of this month. i don't think they'll be able to do that. they'll have another week in session to figure it out. >> there was also action on another expensive big government program the massive nsa surveillance, just this week ruled and i'll read from the "washington post" after seeing documents declassified by the government that showed surveillance quarter was ripping into nsa in 2011 for an unspecified compliance violation and misleading the court, now we know precisely why it was so angry. more than 15,000 people's phone lines were wrongly targtded

he's oh opposed to oh obama care. >>> i intend to speak in support of the funding obama care. >>> texas senator ted cruz holding for hours on the senate floor but fighting a lost cause. >> fill busters will stop people from voting. and we're going to street tomorrow. hes that the vote to restore a new health care law, cruz does not. even a republican leader says he backs the idea. they are wasting time. >>> we may not always agree on tactics but on the question of repealing obama care, we're totally united. he admitted there's little he can do to block democrats in the senate. he can call out other republicans. >> they are not listening to oh the people. they are not listening to the concerns of their constituents. they are not listening to the lost jobs to the people losing their health insurance to the people who are struggling. >> polls show a majority of the tpherpbl people more than 52% do oppose a new health care law but even more, 59% oppose shut down the federal government to abolish it. >> there are other complications for cruz. this is delaying the house bill which defunds the

get all these anti-obama care ads why not have a few positive? >> i will give you one. taxpayer money. >> and it is a big mistake. i think these pliers are foolish to go along witness. the union doesn't like it and rightfully so. the fans don't want to hear political messages. especially there right-leaning once. this is martin o'malley who hopes to flank hillary from the left in 2016, pushing obama care to gain favor to the far left. >> have you ever seen football during a presidential election season? they have ads everywhere. >> i do not like players dashes especially football players, pushing a national policy. >> i agree with that one. >> how about this one? indian nation trying to get the washington redskins to change their name. they find it offensive to native americans. the skins owner daniel snyder says no way breaks tradition. >> this has been going on in washington since i got there 30 years ago. it is not going on to change. it will be the fans want to keep it the redskins. i suppose i can make -- understand a little bit about what the other side is talking

care is the best route to defunding obama care. if we're going to repeal obama care, we're going to need some democratic votes to do it. that's the only plan i've seen in this debate that will actually get us to our common goal of undoing the law. >> so the net impact on defunding obama care is? >> this won't. but the point with ted cruz, i think, and the criticism of him i think misses the mark in terms of what he's trying to achieve. i don't think ted cruz is really trying to achieve anything substantive. in a perfect world for ted cruz if you said we could defund it, he'd say yes. but what ted cruz is about is positioning him as the most pure voice of conservatism. so to him it is welcome news if no other republican senators want to stand with him. it's welcome news if mitch mcconnell says this is not the way to go about it. it's welcome news if there are republican voices saying he's going about this in the wrong way because it sets him up to make the basic argument that's advanced his career to this point. i am this pure voice

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. >> the political is the end preserve obama care act as it took center stage on the sunday news talk shows. >> a vote for closure is a vote for obama care and i think senate republicans will stand side by side with speaker boehner and house republicans listening to the people and trooping this train wreck that is obama care. >> the last thing that people want are people playing political games and threatening to shut the government down or default on our debt. >> the government closed its doors before. there were six shut downs between 1977 and 1980. last was during the clinton administration and also focused around issue of health care, pescally, medicare funding. that show down lasted 21 days. failure to fund the 201 2014 but that begins october 1st. the medicare payments to millions of americans will be delayed. they won't get paid so the government reopens and government workers will be forced. the house version is to stop that bill that will keep the government open until december 15th. >> the american people don't want the government shut down and they don't want obama care. >>

the partisan sticking point obama care, which begins enrollment also on tuesday. all uninsured americans are required to sign up choosing from a variety of plans. no one can be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition, but those who fail will face a monthly penalty. so can republicans reconcile their distaste to keep the government operate something judging by today's verbal sparring, it's not likely. house republicans took aim for not holding a session just two days before a possible government shutdown. >> the senate needs to act. why are they waiting? why aren't those doors open? >> reporter: the latest house bill passed on saturday, tieing the funding for the federal agencies with the one-year delay in parts of the affordable care act. >> we're just asking them in good faith to come back and do what is required in the democracy, to negotiate and work with us. >> reporter: but president obama and the senate democrats say they will not support any legislation that will cut into obama care. >> we are not going to pass it because it is wrong to do a shutdown o

crib with obama care. it's like he's barry bonds. he really didn't hit all those homers, he didn't do it. there's something wrong with it. seems this is what they are trying to do. >> that's right, but when history looks back, they are going to show the kind of individuals in congress he had to deal with, yet his accomplishments. when he came into office, he had three major, catastrophic events taking place, the worst financial crisis, war in iraq, and war in afghanistan, which he got us out of. he passed a health care bill, that we've been trying to pass for decades, and he did a lot of this against the opposition of individuals who wanted to wipe him off the map. that's going to make his legacy that much stronger and better, i think, in the eyes of history. >> that's the best i've heard it. thank you so much, u.s. congressman meeks. >>> coming up, now that vladimir putin stuck his neck out on syria, he's the guy to talk to about chemical weapons. plus, add maryland to the growing list of states where rig

. ♪ >> that was an ad for obama care. didn't mention obama care. the reason is the controversy. >> i use to look at commercials like that. i don't smoke that stuff anymore. >> i couldn't understand what this was promoting. i guess rosie and fun -- >> they have something people don't want. they're not going to mention obama care. congress doesn't want it for themselves, unions don't want it. why mention obama care in the commercial? i have the answer for them. i have the commercial for them. get george clooney, barbra streisand, all these pass vis and get them to look at the camera. i'm george clooney, i know congress doesn't wanted it. try it for you. it's going to work. >> george clooney can work a lot of magic, but that's a heavy list. >> barbra streisand -- >> all the more. >> would you believe susan? >> maybe. >> a lot of times you can't market something not marketable. others have. >> they're so far away. this is a waste. they're spending $3.2 million. >> that's so much than the next spot i want you to look at. react to this. take a look. >> i

defunds obama care is dead. dead. >> and right at the center of the debate, republican senator ted cruz who's threatening a fill buster. >> i will do everything necessary and anything possible to defund obama care. >> senator cruz joins us live. it's a fox news sunday exclusive. then, syria submits an inventory of its chemical weapons program as secretary of state kerry calls on the u.n. to act. >> this fight about chemical weapons is not a game. it's real. it's important. >> we'll discuss what happens next with former weapons inspector charles duelfer. plus, lawmakers are calling for aggressive background checks. we'll talk with claire mccaskill who is leading the charge. >>> and our power play of the week. iylana trump. all right now on fox news sunday. hello again from fox news in washington. well, the clock is ticking. the government shuts down in just eight days unless congress agrees on a bill to fund federal agencies. on friday, the house passed a measure to keep the government going until mid-december bu

and delay obama care for a year. and i think if the truth is told there's a lot of democrats out there who hope that we succeed because it's not ready for prime time, this bill. a lot of people are going to suffer economic misery. we have heard about that. all we want to do is delay this and defund it for a year. we want to get this right. it's not right now and it only seems to make some common sense to do this. >> suppose you do that. you defund it for a year. delay it for a year and ship it back to the senate. and it's going to land there like it goes over like a lead balloon over there and the president said that he's not going -- he's not going to bargain over defunding obama care. what happens when it's back to the senate if that's what happens in the house? >> that's the position. they have to do something with it because at a certain point we have to make a decision. and 17 times since the 1970s the government has gone through this. it's called brinksmanship in negotiation and then make a decision. sometimes

the budget coming up, the debt ceiling crisis, obama care is about to go into effect. they will focus on defunding that. your head could snap at how fast congress can move past this issue. >> no one wants to vote on this. no one wants to deal with it. everybody will take an opportunity, but this speech and the diplomatic process working itself out. okay, enough with syria. >> there is already a process working its way through the senate. they are crafting something that would actually pass because it's very -- it rains in any action and ties it to the u.n. diplomatic process. i think that is where the hell wants to be because now they don't want to be on the record. >> i would not underestimate this. you could see it pushed back where people will begin to accuse the president of not having credibility or strength if he doesn't move. i think the president could very nimbly move and say, my legacy is going to be rebuilding this country, and i have put this process on the diplomatic track. we will test, and we will push, but we have to rebuild. the congress is not working

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the senate version pays for obama care. you know that's a sticking point for tea party republicans in the house. >>> government shutdown, potential default, certainly buzz phrases for the week. outside the washington, what does it really mean for you? >> alison kosik works with us this morning to help us sort it out. >> it is confusing. how long have we been covering this adgnawsium. what's worse, right? first, the government shutdown if it happens, it would happen monday night at midnight, so really beginning on tuesday. to be quite honest, it will be a bigger convenience, but if you're a government worker, you'll feel the pinch the biggest. yew paycheck will be delayed, some may not get paid at all. that could have a domino effect on the economy and it could also, as i said, hurt the economy if it drags on for a while. with one analyst say it could celt economy growth in half. a specific laundry list. many programs and offices could be shut down. you wouldn't be able to visit national parks and museums at that time, and -

that is also theber same day tht healthcare exchanges on the obama affordable care act begin to start.to the continued resolution willret keep the government operating at current funding levels until mid-december, but it got anyany funding for the obama care affordable care act. democrats say this plan is a recipe for a partial government shutdown but the republican bacn planned has a measure to deal with the debt ceiling which hasc toh be raised by mid-october. >> you got other businesses that are reducing the hours for their employees, because of this law. so our message to the unitede it states senate is real simple. the american people don't want the government shutdown, and they don't want obama care. >> what is brought to the floorl today is without a doubt, without a doubt a measure designed to shutdown government. it could have no other intent. it has purpose is clear. >> open enrollment for obama care is set to begin on octobere first, but already there are problems, the "wall street journal" is reporting that healthcare.gov, the site set up by the white house to havee to people

care on the american people. >> that plan to de fund obama care took heat from the left and the right. republican senator tom coburn says he doesn't know if that can ever succeed and democratic senator claire mccastle says leblgss have consequences and they voted in november in favor of the president's healthcare overall. mccaskill{off-lin mccaskill{off-line} >> neil patrick air his performed in the middle of the awards with help with former hosts. >> give you a smidge of advise, look around, take it all in. enjoy every second of this. there's a good chance they won't ask you back last year. >> you have to do a song and a dance. >> a little tippy tap. >> some funny moments last night. a look at the winners and the losers last night. anna kooiman is watching it all. >> good morning to everybody at home. breaking bad made good winning tv's heist honor outstanding performance before taking a final bow his last season. >> holy (bleep). i did not see this coming. >> i have been blessed in the past and this show has been nominated in the past, but what i really wanted was what we got. >> th

health care reform law, obama care for individual americans. democrats say that bill does not have a chance and when the senate does finally resume tomorrow afternoon at 2:00 p.m. eastern there will only be roughly ten hours left until the deadline. if lawmakers don't stop it what could a shutdown look like. steve centanni is live for us working on this part of the story. steve. >> reporter: harris, the impact of a government shutdown would extend all across the country affecting millions of people. if the shutdown happens the nations 401 national parks would be shut down. you won't be able to apply pore a passport. loans for the housing administration which backs ha% of all mortgages would not be available even as housing is struggling to recover. other government functions impacted would be federal research facilities. the mythsmithsonian museum but would not affect social security check, medicare checks, post offices and active military duty would stay on the job. >> what are lawmakers saying about the actual impact of a shutdown? what is th

i think it is a good idea to defund obama care. obama care is a disaster. i think it is going to hurt the people intended to help, and i think it will increase everyone's insurance costs and may well cause workers part-time to get less hours and maybe so much difficult to support their family and i think there are a lot of unintended consequences. the unions are afraid of this. president clinton is saying poor working families may not be able to afford insurance. there is a lot not to like about this. i think we should do everything we can to defund it. >> you know, you have been a strong proponent of eliminating mandatory minimums, especially in the federal courts as it relates to drug crimes. tell us about that. >> i testified this week in the judiciary committee for a bill that would allow judges to have discretion. who bothers me is people for non-violent crimes, drug possession crimes, given ten years as a mandatory minimum and it is not just their jail time which is horrendous. they get out of prison and they can't get work because they have to put do

as you saw, we had the 41st vote on the repeal of the affordable care act, obama care, today. notwithstanding that, we didn't do anything else. that bill won't have any future and we did not do what we need to do, and that is ensure that the government doesn't shut down on october 1st. >> so here we are, five legislative days before government shutdown. conservative republicans are essentially in revolt. you've got john boehner again faced with kind of this choice, isn't he, josh? he can't get a deal without the support of the tea party or some democrats. what's the strategy? >> john boehner desperately wanted to avoid this fight. the republican leadership, their key goal is to keep all the spending cuts that were in sequestration that democrats would like to roll back some of. if they get caught up in this thing where they try to tie keeping the government open to defunding obama care, they're afraid whatever passes out of the house will look unserious and the democrats in the senate will be able to set the terms for how the government stays open and spend more money. so boeh

people don't care about obama care. 40% do. the marketplace rejected obama care. more than 60 persons of the american people are on self-insured programs. it's a nonworkable program. the house has its point of view, the senate has it points of view. the president forgot about his legacy and became a leader, he would say all right, let's come up with a compromise. it's all or nothing for the senate and american people want two things. they want to defund obama care and they don't want government to shut down. >> first off, if can you go out and find me a bunch of americans who sit around their table saying let's defund obama care, that's a family i want to meet. this is a washington creation. it's not that much different than the past where republicans had their message. democrats have theirs. the problem here for the republicans is they're pursuing the exact wrong tactics. they don't thank the government every day because the road is built. when you tell troops they're not going to not get paid. government is essential to their daily lives. >> i have a different t

the obama care is the law of the land. and, in essence, he was signaling it was time to move on and the republicans had any time of approving this, i believe deep down he fundamentally believes that. >> last week, he saw the extraordinary senator ted cruz that the speaker extense ichly wanted the kau cucaucus to foll. >> so you look at what's been happening the last time. republica republicans, they got blamed. do they not get it that a shutdown might not be a good idea? or is it that they hate the president's health care law that much that they don't care about shutting down the government. >> well, there's a viert of things. sfir first of all, the last shutdown was, in political terms, ionsa ago, there's no question there was a turning point in the presidency of bill clinton. he went ahead of him during the shutdown and never trailed again. but the republicans did not lose the house, even though they lost seats. there's a certain inexstrablety towards is this. they've within heading well over as the republicans won the h

i hear lots of half baked no ed nonsense about obama care. that is a shortage of 130,000 doctors by 2025. 90,000 doctors short by the end of this decade. premiums riding as we have reported here endlessly. it's as if this is some sort of popularity contest. some sort of political maneuver on the part of republicans because they can't get beyond their own ideological blinders. where do we go from here? >> obama care said it would reduce cost and make sure everyo americans are covered and have better quality of care. at end of it cbo has said 31 million americans will be uncovered. after all this we still have americans uncovered. we have to come back to what's really occurring on the ground and say this does not work. it made a lot of folks nervous and now that they are seeing it, their not see nervous, they're fearful of it. we'll work through this one piece at a time. all these are major problems that you just can't ignore. >> always good to talk with you. appreciate. >>> it's an amateurish move. president obama asking for help from bill cli