in germany, the plot began that led to 9/11. iraq, north korea, we are not doing it for the fun of it. it is together valuable intelligence that helps not just us, but the europeans. >> congressman king points in that statement to the french in the past doing spying of their own. executives being told the conversations might be bugged. >> in january or february, the first one was china. we have capacities with active protection against cyber threats. there is a huge difference with that and the government. to invest more than 4 million euros for protections as well as active protections. on top of that, we see a lot of cybersecurity about to train a lot of french people. >> there are a little bit of crocodile tears on the part of the french? >> probably a little on the highest levels of government. you have american officials more in the know saying, trust us. we have saved you from attacks. i don't think it is the french establishment's or any other countries job to take that for granted or to take their word for it. it is impo

fax -- >> germany is the most famous one. germany wants to abolish nuclear energy completely. by 2050, there -- there will have no power plan for nuclear and germany. they like to develop wind power, the number two was actually hydro-. the next one will be fire coming from coal petroleum and natural gas. natural gas, far much more than petroleum. nevertheless, it is what they do. germany is the most famous one in terms of the future area but it will would be south korea. south korea will be 59% nuclear. >> what is it currently? >> right now, is it about half of it area the other one is china and india. china at this moment has a very small portion of nuclear supplies. they would like to increase and they will have more than 100 react first in china. interestingly enough, saudi arabia is a big producer of petroleum. it's going to develop nuclear very fast. >> one thing a lot of people ask is we have a lot of discussions about renewable, alternative energy resources trait you mentioned wind and solar. a lot of people may not know these alternative energy sources at this particul

., france, germany, china, and russia, in a bid to ease the crippling sanctions placed on the country in recent years. western powers are concerned that iran has surplus stocks of uranium enriched 20%. a swift and simple process would take that up to weapons grade uranium, which could be used to make a nuclear warhead. the p5 plus one countries look to cut production in the 12,000 centrifuges currently enriching uranium. secretary of state john kerry said the window of diplomacy was cracking open. the talks are the first since president rouhani this year, seen as a moderate, many believe he will be able to secure a deal with the west after 10 years of stalled negotiations. quick so far, the talks have brought no results because iran's policy has been offensive and aggressive. now, iran's policy is to seek dialogue with the west. but if the west doesn't give a positive response to the approach coming from iran, then iran's return to previous policies will definitely be inevitable. >> tehran has also come under pressure to close the nuclear plant where much of the high- grade enrichment

but there are eurosceptic rds in germany -- parties in germany -- >> closer to those in britain. >> in britain, they are pursuing a right-wing strategy as well. they have gathered votes from all parties and are pursuing a very light euro skepticism. and then we have, in italy, at the last general election in february, 60% who are actually against the current fiscal policies pursued at the european level. and we have 30% of the electorate voted for parties who want a referendum on the euro. euro skepticism is a very diverse picture. >> it is not one-size-fits-all. >> not at all. 70% pro-eu in the next parliament. one third is a lot. >> traditional parties did lose ground. valentin kreilinger, i want to thank you. i want to thank francesco saraceno. i also want to thank thomas friang. fabrizio bertot for joining us from brussels and costas lapavitsas from london. before we say goodbye, there is one man i would like to say hello to and that is james. >> good evening. just one word that is making the rounds on italian twitter. that is a phrase uttered by this man, the secretary of the pdl

we need -- europe has to know that 3 out of 10 immigrants go to germany. 2 out of 10 go to france, then to england. in italy, they do not stay because there are no jobs. europe has to realize this is a european problem. we have to face this like clinton did with haitians. in someways there is no solution, but italy has not, the problem does not have a solution but has to be faced in a col lective way. >> a front page story this friday. do you have a sense that europe has woken up, that this is a problem and not just a problem of sicily? >> i do not know. the particulars of the stories were so sad that i do not know if anybody is drawing the bigger lesson. people will look at the fact that spain and italy have this problem. 2 million syrian refugees. the whole scrcrescent area, the countries that people in somalia have to go through to get to eu rope. since the land border crossings are so difficult, this is why so many people take the sea route. and it's much more dangerous. are we indifference or that or do we figure this is the risk they take? what can we do if we have so many people

>> not because germany does not make up europe. in any case, germany is a part because it is an aging nation, a rich aging nation, with a low proportion of immigrants to its total population. not so small, although that explains the difference. on the other hand, i would also reject the idea that the economic reasons explained the rice of the extreme. -- the rise of the extreme. it does not explain the far right as well as it explains the far left. for example, it in greece and portugal, it is mostly the far left which has been rising. the far right in greece is not so big. it is very extremist. while the former communists, you can trim the campaign. the left is very strong, two thirds of the electorate in the recent election. >> it is not one-size-fits-all. >> for the far right, the explanation is broader. we can to reduce this to the current economic situation. >> i would say basically, i agree. you can't bring everything down to the economy specifically but it provides a backdrop. if we were in the 1970's growing at four percent