that wasn't done with the church committee, iran contra or abu ghraib. what c.i.a. is asking for is unprecedented and what's clear is they're interested in obscuring the facts and covering up a really accurate narrative. >> woodruff: senator ron wyden, member of the senate intelligence committee, thank you. >> thank you. >> woodruff: for perspective from the c.i.a. side, joining us now is john rizzo, who spent thirty-four years in the agency's office of general counsel. he's also the author of the book "company man" about his time in the c.i.a. so, john rozzi, you heard what senator wyden was saying. he said this is unprecedented what the c.i.a. is asking for. >> first of all, i should make clear i have not seen the report, not for a lack of trying. several weeks ago, i and former c.i.a. officials who were deeply involved in the program asked for an opportunity to at least read it before it's released to the world. so i have no idea, as we sit here today, anything about the content of the report. as for the use of pseudonyms, again, it's all context. >> woodruff: an