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korea -- nuclear north korea. it is not a goal, that this is my -- this is what we might end up with. both have a lot of problems. freezing has a lot of problems. we don't know where all the things are. similar over, but there are a lot of covert facilities. -- some are over, that there are a lot of covert facilities. we have many deals with north korea. there is a lot of consensus with both options. >> we obviously need to go for another hour, but we only have five minutes. let's take three 22nd questions. three 20 second questions. >> is there a way to take the strategic importance of north korea away from china so it is devalued in the eyes of china's own agreement could come forward -- as of china, so an agreement could come forward? >> right in the back. withe question i have is regards to a possible regime change or collapse of the regime , nobody predicted the soviet union would collapse. should we be putting in plans or thinking about how to secure the nuclear program elements that are there, loose materia
korea -- nuclear north korea. it is not a goal, that this is my -- this is what we might end up with. both have a lot of problems. freezing has a lot of problems. we don't know where all the things are. similar over, but there are a lot of covert facilities. -- some are over, that there are a lot of covert facilities. we have many deals with north korea. there is a lot of consensus with both options. >> we obviously need to go for another hour, but we only have five minutes. let's take...
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so the threat from north korea -- missiles. so the threat from north korea is real. and the real threats demand real responses. we have tried various approaches in the past. we tried strategic patience during the last administration. i will tell you that i think secretary tillerson has helped device a strategy of maximum pressure -- devise a strategy of maximum pressure that makes a tremendous amount of success to me. i'll share with you why i think it is very credible. we have seen in the past, in banco delta ring asia, back when north korea was caught counterfeiting $100 u.s. bank notes, we saw at that time a strategy deployed that froze the capability of that regime. to move forward which it's nuclear weapons program. we know from talking to defectors about the impact that that had internally on north korea. because frankly these weapons programs are very expensive to run. it requires billions and billions of dollars every year. north korea doesn't really manufacture much other than some of the clandestine missile parts and so forth that they transfer overseas. an
so the threat from north korea -- missiles. so the threat from north korea is real. and the real threats demand real responses. we have tried various approaches in the past. we tried strategic patience during the last administration. i will tell you that i think secretary tillerson has helped device a strategy of maximum pressure -- devise a strategy of maximum pressure that makes a tremendous amount of success to me. i'll share with you why i think it is very credible. we have seen in the...
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north korea. this is about 35 minutes. [applause] >> good evening, ladies and gentlemen. i am shinzo abe. thank you very much for inviting me. i am delighted to see so many guests from the united states, as well as the nations of asia. please, enjoy your stay in japan. it has been more than four years since i have retaken the government. japan, before that, under the rule of the democratic party of japan was enwrapped with pesism with a sense of deregulation. -- with a sense of resignation. the economy was struggling with deflation. japan was not able to make its presence felt in the international arena. population is shrinking. thus, we can no longer expect growth. japan is already in its twilight years. we often heard looming large before us to give it all up. the stock price at the time was less than half of what it is today, over 8000 ynen or so. i stood up to take on the challenge. i promised to restore japan to what she used to be. how is japan today? during the past four years through our e
north korea. this is about 35 minutes. [applause] >> good evening, ladies and gentlemen. i am shinzo abe. thank you very much for inviting me. i am delighted to see so many guests from the united states, as well as the nations of asia. please, enjoy your stay in japan. it has been more than four years since i have retaken the government. japan, before that, under the rule of the democratic party of japan was enwrapped with pesism with a sense of deregulation. -- with a sense of...
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north korea is a serial proliferator. every weapon system they have ever developed they've sold. >> and the real nightmare is nonstate actors obtaining nuclear weapons for whom deterrence would not work. >> that's absolutely right. that's absolutely correct. and the second concern is because if deterrence holds at the nuclear rung of the ladder, there's also the possibility that north korea will feel the united states is deterred, therefore it can actually coerce more at the conventional level, something that's known as the stability/instability paradox. and so i think there's a lot of concern that north korea even if it's deterred will actually feel like it has more reasons to take actions. coerce others. >> you all have testified about the consequences of some kind of preemptive strike in terms of -- and i think it's important to realize that seoul is about as far from the dmz as we are from baltimore. we're not talking about nuclear strike. we're talking about artillery. but let me ask the question another way and perh
north korea is a serial proliferator. every weapon system they have ever developed they've sold. >> and the real nightmare is nonstate actors obtaining nuclear weapons for whom deterrence would not work. >> that's absolutely right. that's absolutely correct. and the second concern is because if deterrence holds at the nuclear rung of the ladder, there's also the possibility that north korea will feel the united states is deterred, therefore it can actually coerce more at the...
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of north korea. you will notice that clever play words. normally we have a 30% chance -- drop a great for those who signal attendance. i think today we had a 30% increase in attendance. i think that is a true to our speakers and the issue at hand, which is one of the top security issues facing not just the united states, but the world. this event is part of a dialogue series where we seek to address and shed light on the issues that come up. the dialogue is a gathering of defense ministers around the region and in other countries. there is one asian defense minister who will not be there. that is the north korean. i tried many times to get the north koreans to come and it has been a failure every time i have my annual review as an area to improve on. let's get serious about north korea. we have four renowned experts to address aspects of the north korean issue, starting with victor cha at csis. he's also a director of asian studies at georgetown university . from 2004-2007 he served as director for a
of north korea. you will notice that clever play words. normally we have a 30% chance -- drop a great for those who signal attendance. i think today we had a 30% increase in attendance. i think that is a true to our speakers and the issue at hand, which is one of the top security issues facing not just the united states, but the world. this event is part of a dialogue series where we seek to address and shed light on the issues that come up. the dialogue is a gathering of defense ministers...
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now about north korea is importing -- china has stopped import of coal from north korea. but there are many other things that china can do. so we would like to have two -- to encourage china to properly execute its responsibility and we are watching closely. and the missile with the launch by north korea recently, this is a very high level launch. it has -- for the first time reached altitude of 2,000 kilometers and have the warhead, what is happening on the missile is to be assessed. i believe that was the purpose of the experiment this time. that is how we assess the situation. so the technology of it i -- the missile has progressed and i would like to share this concern so we can exert pressure on north korea and when and if nuclear test is conducted then we need to have additional pressures to be applied through the united nations security council. on this count as well, china shou should properly take actions and china should understand fully and between united states and china through the summit meeting i understand that there were other talks on this. >> do you thi
now about north korea is importing -- china has stopped import of coal from north korea. but there are many other things that china can do. so we would like to have two -- to encourage china to properly execute its responsibility and we are watching closely. and the missile with the launch by north korea recently, this is a very high level launch. it has -- for the first time reached altitude of 2,000 kilometers and have the warhead, what is happening on the missile is to be assessed. i believe...
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the chinese have a border with north korea and north korea seems to be on a course that gathers all kinds of countries in adversarial relationship against them and the challenge and also frankly the opportunity for the rest of the world, beginning first in east asia is if we all recognize this as a common danger and a common threat -- snien >> interesting. thank you. we hope to know more soon. thank you. msnbc contributor ned price former special assistant to president obama and msnbc spokesperson and senior nsc spokes experience and senior director is joining us. what is your take on today especially considering that both south korea and china have recently made kind of concessions by inviting north korea to certain things? >> well that's right. this is not unexpected. this is the tenth missile launch this year from the north koreans and 76th since kim jong-un took power several years ago. so they have tested and this is the latest indication. what's different about this test is that there's a higher degree, appears tube higher degree of success with this missile given it flew 30 minutes
the chinese have a border with north korea and north korea seems to be on a course that gathers all kinds of countries in adversarial relationship against them and the challenge and also frankly the opportunity for the rest of the world, beginning first in east asia is if we all recognize this as a common danger and a common threat -- snien >> interesting. thank you. we hope to know more soon. thank you. msnbc contributor ned price former special assistant to president obama and msnbc...
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reading aust got done book on north korea and south korea. the man that called talking about the navy ship. that was in there. north korea set it on fire and all the men died. wherever it is sitting. they don't like americans. we have to get china to help. they get everything from china. i was worried about north korea five years ago, but i wanted to ask you, when obama was in office, two or three years ago, they planted those things by california, the missiles. is that true? guest: we do have multiple layers of missile defense shield to the region. assets that other are able to do that. it is multilayered. you have the thaad system, -based system. sea hopefully between all of them we can have success. is the military capability in south korea? guest: we have tens of thousands of troops that are well trained. they are motivated and engaged. they could help defend south korea, but look at seoul. it is 65 kilometers from the demilitarized zone near the north korean border. north korea has tens of thousands of rockets and artillery pointed at se
reading aust got done book on north korea and south korea. the man that called talking about the navy ship. that was in there. north korea set it on fire and all the men died. wherever it is sitting. they don't like americans. we have to get china to help. they get everything from china. i was worried about north korea five years ago, but i wanted to ask you, when obama was in office, two or three years ago, they planted those things by california, the missiles. is that true? guest: we do have...
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north korea is one of them. qaddafi gave up his nukes and you see what they did to qaddafi it and libya. they just destroyed them. the united states is partly responsible for that refugee crisis. host: let's be clear on your point here it north korea be allowed to have nuclear weapons? if israel can have nukes, then north korea should be able to have nukes. india,ia, china, pakistan, united states can have nukes, then north korea should be able to have nukes. host: that doesn't bother you based on the unpredictably of kim jong in? caller: what about the predictability of the north -- u.s. government? north korea has never overthrow the government. they have not dropped an atomic bomb on anybody. the u.s. has. host: we will go next to texas. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. thank you for everything you do. i wanted to make a suggestion that instead of dividing your callers this morning on this issue by party, you divided by geographical region in the united states. i don't think people in flori
north korea is one of them. qaddafi gave up his nukes and you see what they did to qaddafi it and libya. they just destroyed them. the united states is partly responsible for that refugee crisis. host: let's be clear on your point here it north korea be allowed to have nuclear weapons? if israel can have nukes, then north korea should be able to have nukes. india,ia, china, pakistan, united states can have nukes, then north korea should be able to have nukes. host: that doesn't bother you based...
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by north korea. who could stop the development by north korea and the ultimate goal of north korea is to maintain kim junge unregime by the -- kim jong un regime by the holding of the nuclear weapon that we tried to warn against the united states and tried to preserve their regime. so nuclear development and the regime are inseparateable so in exchange of -- insap rable so in exchange of position and life as they are acting and they are almost -- come jong un is almost stepping on the tail of japan and i do not believe there is no chance for making progress in the negotiation. on the short-term basis, for a while they may refrain from nuclear tests and missile launches. however, on the long-term basis, it's possible they develop nuclear missile which could reach the main land of japan. hat would increase the threat. they were to give up or abannedon of the nuclear development of -- abandon of the nuclear development of the weapon that would lead to the collapse of the regime so that probably would no
by north korea. who could stop the development by north korea and the ultimate goal of north korea is to maintain kim junge unregime by the -- kim jong un regime by the holding of the nuclear weapon that we tried to warn against the united states and tried to preserve their regime. so nuclear development and the regime are inseparateable so in exchange of -- insap rable so in exchange of position and life as they are acting and they are almost -- come jong un is almost stepping on the tail of...
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did i north korea's objective. pursuing of the objectives against us will not thatthis is the only way north korea will seek serious negotiations with the security council. some proposals for strengthening u.s.lliance, first, the needs to further materializing this bilateral responses, especially joint response to challenges. well as ensuring operational environmentin the in the medium to high and conflict should be highlighted. japan has thene, primary responsibility to deal with it. the mobile deployment of light armored units and amphibious capabilities based on the operations among the japanese coast guard, ground and air forces and the u.s. force in japan. find high-end operations. to that end, i believe it is the u.s. to, with japan joint concept of projecting power despite air challenges are a term used by u.s. strategy guidance in 2012. japan needs to dramatically increase the resiliency of defense form said assets. we should not let china neutralize the u.s. forces in the operation. measures including figh
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let's talk north korea. that is obviously one of your special subjects. you famously went to pyongyang as the us lead negotiator at a time when you were desperately trying to find and negotiate your way through the nuclear crisis with north korea. donald trump's style on north korea is, it seems, to mix bellicose language with actually signals that no other president has sent about his willingness to meet face—to—face. what do you make of that? very true. first of all, i think he has understood that north korea is a top of the charts issue these days. i mean, it's not going away. they are very much focused on developing deliverable nuclear weapons. i think he understands that during this term of his that he will quite likely face the american people in 2020 and have to explain what he has done about this north korean threat. i think he looks at this as a transactional negotiation. he can get the chinese to do what other people couldn't get them to do. and that somehow, he can find a sort of formula in negotiations that will make the north korean say,
let's talk north korea. that is obviously one of your special subjects. you famously went to pyongyang as the us lead negotiator at a time when you were desperately trying to find and negotiate your way through the nuclear crisis with north korea. donald trump's style on north korea is, it seems, to mix bellicose language with actually signals that no other president has sent about his willingness to meet face—to—face. what do you make of that? very true. first of all, i think he has...
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now about north korea is importing -- china has stopped import of coal from north korea. but there are many other things that china can do. so we would like to have to encourage china to properly execute its responsibility, and we are watching closely. and the missile with the launch by north korea recently, this is a very high level launch. it has -- for the first time reached altitude of 2,000 kilometers and had the ballistic -- the warhead, what is happening on the missile is to be assessed. i believe that was the purpose of the experiment this time. that is how we assess the situation. so the technology of it i -- the strong pressure on north korea and when a nuclear test is conducted, that we need to have additional pressure applied, additional sanctions to be applied through the united nations security council. held -- ont as that this count as well, china should should properly take actions and china should understand fully and between united states and china through the summit meeting i understand that there were other talks on this. >> do you think china will? ch
now about north korea is importing -- china has stopped import of coal from north korea. but there are many other things that china can do. so we would like to have to encourage china to properly execute its responsibility, and we are watching closely. and the missile with the launch by north korea recently, this is a very high level launch. it has -- for the first time reached altitude of 2,000 kilometers and had the ballistic -- the warhead, what is happening on the missile is to be assessed....
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with north korea. who is going to be -- >> no, again, i think that the key part of the president's statement was under the right circumstances. those circumstances do not exist now. this is consistent with what secretary tillerson said the other day. if north korea continues down a degree of provocative behavior, those circumstances will never be there. we want to hold out the possibility if they were ever serious about completely dismantling its nuclear capability and taking away the threat that they pose both to the region and to us there's always going to be a possibility of that occurring. that possibility is not there at this time. >> we're so far away from that possibility existing to start identifying an individual would be highly premature. >> you continue to say the effort is to isolate from north korea. part of this coalition. >> it's also to build a coalition. >> are you suggesting that the philippines has some sort of inappropriate contact with north korea? are you suggesting that we are re
with north korea. who is going to be -- >> no, again, i think that the key part of the president's statement was under the right circumstances. those circumstances do not exist now. this is consistent with what secretary tillerson said the other day. if north korea continues down a degree of provocative behavior, those circumstances will never be there. we want to hold out the possibility if they were ever serious about completely dismantling its nuclear capability and taking away the...
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i am joined by the director of the north korea center. lets talk about the significance of this test and the fact that it was indeed a success, what do you make of that? >> i think it's important to prepare for possible attacks by north korea but the problem is that we are trapped in a security dilemma, while we are discouraging aggression through a show of strength, at the same time, we reinforcing their belief that they are vulnerable, which will cause them to continue their tests. this most recent test, a shorter range missile, reportedly had a guidance system on it for accuracy, so we are reinforcing each other's insecurities. >> less talk about that latest test by north korea, japan vowed to take action after that incident. what type of action will it take to stop the leaders of north korea. >> well, we have have been talking about doing this for a long time. the missile defense system test is one thing that will reassure people here at home and possibly in japan and in south korea but more needs to be done, more direct engagement to
i am joined by the director of the north korea center. lets talk about the significance of this test and the fact that it was indeed a success, what do you make of that? >> i think it's important to prepare for possible attacks by north korea but the problem is that we are trapped in a security dilemma, while we are discouraging aggression through a show of strength, at the same time, we reinforcing their belief that they are vulnerable, which will cause them to continue their tests. this...
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now about north korea is importing -- china has stopped import of coal from north korea. but there are many other things that china can do. so we would like to encourage china to properly execute its responsibility and we are watching closely. and the missile with the launch by north korea recently, this is a very high level of the launch. it has -- for the first time reached altitude of 2,000 kilometers, and has been ballistic, the warhead. what is happening on the missile is to be assessed. i believe that was the purpose that is how we assess the of the experiment this time. that is how we assess the situation. the technology of the icbm may be progress, and we are very concerned with this. i would like to share this concern so we can exert pressure on north korea and when and if nuclear test is conducted, then we need to have additional pressures to be applied, additional sanctions to be applied, through the united nations security council. on this count as well, china should properly take actions and china should understand fully . and between united states and china
now about north korea is importing -- china has stopped import of coal from north korea. but there are many other things that china can do. so we would like to encourage china to properly execute its responsibility and we are watching closely. and the missile with the launch by north korea recently, this is a very high level of the launch. it has -- for the first time reached altitude of 2,000 kilometers, and has been ballistic, the warhead. what is happening on the missile is to be assessed. i...
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as to north korea supporting and opening up, basically it would be a dialogue with north korea and one way of having a dialogue with this measure is this what the result of the alliance and problems would be dealt with, so any opening a steady had after. i think it is time now to open the floor for questions and i think we have people carrying around microphones, so you can wait and raise your hand and wait until the person with a microphone comes and identify yourself. the gentleman in the front. >> excellent discussion. the points discussed or where does repairing relations with beijing stack up in the agenda. their relationship with china is critical and it's deteriorated in the last number of months for the threats of diplomatic and military actions, so to the point that it's lower given the history issues is saying something. this is a cynical view that china will do things periodically and there will be a view taken by the public and then either if china stops doing that the relationship will get better or they will see that economic relations were so strongly aligned with china
as to north korea supporting and opening up, basically it would be a dialogue with north korea and one way of having a dialogue with this measure is this what the result of the alliance and problems would be dealt with, so any opening a steady had after. i think it is time now to open the floor for questions and i think we have people carrying around microphones, so you can wait and raise your hand and wait until the person with a microphone comes and identify yourself. the gentleman in the...
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range of north korea. 0nce koreans who live within artillery range of north korea. once they strike south korean civilian centres, then what does the us do? does the us then retaliate for that because the south koreans it certainly will. and then we are into a second korean war. that's a pretty big step. that's not something you wa nt to big step. that's not something you want to bluff your way into. you wa nt to want to bluff your way into. you want to be purposeful and talk to the south koreans about it. you want to make sure there are no mixed signals. you want to talk to the japanese and oh, by the way, you wa nt to japanese and oh, by the way, you want to share it with the american people who might not quite the offer another war right now. there are a lot of things to go into his decision of whether to launch a pre—emptive strike against the north korean facilities, even if he feels it is absolutely something he has to do to protect the american people. lets change tack. if we are to avoid the miss
range of north korea. 0nce koreans who live within artillery range of north korea. once they strike south korean civilian centres, then what does the us do? does the us then retaliate for that because the south koreans it certainly will. and then we are into a second korean war. that's a pretty big step. that's not something you wa nt to big step. that's not something you want to bluff your way into. you wa nt to want to bluff your way into. you want to be purposeful and talk to the south...
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korea is as north korea itself. in confronting the reckless north korean regime, it's critical we're guided by a strong sense of resolve, both privately and publicly, both diplomatically and militarily. as president trump and secretary mattis have made clear, all options are on the table. we want to bring kim jong-un to his senses and not to his knees. we're also challenged in the indo asia pacific by an aggressive china. china continues a methodical strategy to control the south china sea. i testified last year that china was militarized in this critical international waterway and the air space above it by building air and naval bases on seven chinese man made islands. despite subsequent chinese assurances at the highest levels that they would not militarize these bases, today they support long-range weapons and placements, fighter aircraft hangars, red arrow towers and barracks for their troops. china's militarization of the south china sea is real. i'm also not taking my eyes off of russia. which just last week f
korea is as north korea itself. in confronting the reckless north korean regime, it's critical we're guided by a strong sense of resolve, both privately and publicly, both diplomatically and militarily. as president trump and secretary mattis have made clear, all options are on the table. we want to bring kim jong-un to his senses and not to his knees. we're also challenged in the indo asia pacific by an aggressive china. china continues a methodical strategy to control the south china sea. i...
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china enables north korea. north korea could mix this with the help of support of china on multiple levels and i think it's time for a president of one to put up or shut up with north korea's bad behavior. they need to bring the hammer down hard on economic sanctions and use every tool at in their toolbox to rein in north korea. lauren: there's also south korea, brad. the new president will make a visit to north korea. how has this changed in a mix between the north and south? >> this would be a real change because for south korea to engage leader to leader, principal to principal would be something really unprecedented in modern times. whether that would be helpful or not depends on the structure of the meeting, where it's to be held, the length of the meeting, who attends, whether the united states was sanctioned such a meeting as far as our participation. even behind the scenes. whether that happens or not, who knows. i certainly would be something would garner the world' attention. nicole: what are thoughts
china enables north korea. north korea could mix this with the help of support of china on multiple levels and i think it's time for a president of one to put up or shut up with north korea's bad behavior. they need to bring the hammer down hard on economic sanctions and use every tool at in their toolbox to rein in north korea. lauren: there's also south korea, brad. the new president will make a visit to north korea. how has this changed in a mix between the north and south? >> this...
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lauren: this comes after north korea tests another ballistic fire on north korea. it appears to have failed. a stray prime minister saying they would not tolerate north korea's threat to regional peace previous trillion later scheduled to meet with donald trump on thursday right here in new york. >> treasury secretary stephen mnuchin saying he believes the administration's economic or postal will help to boost the economy. >> tax regulation and trade. we believe we can get to 3% sustained economic growth. that will take us some time but after active and what we believe we can get to pick that creates lots of opportunities for americans. nicole: you can hear more treasury secretary stephen mnuchin 7:00 a.m. eastern time "mornings with maria." transfer wild weekend with 13 people killed when a tornado. has several small towns killing four people appeared cutting a path of destruction 35 miles on cover 15 mouselike hit 15 people taken hospitals. texas governor greg added surveying the damage. >> at the lincoln area that were filled with trees. it looks like they've be
lauren: this comes after north korea tests another ballistic fire on north korea. it appears to have failed. a stray prime minister saying they would not tolerate north korea's threat to regional peace previous trillion later scheduled to meet with donald trump on thursday right here in new york. >> treasury secretary stephen mnuchin saying he believes the administration's economic or postal will help to boost the economy. >> tax regulation and trade. we believe we can get to 3%...
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this is undercutting reaching out to north korea. that is also going to undercut by the way, the rather casual comments from president trump that i will meet with everyone, and why wouldn't i meet with him without some preconditions that had been made a couple of weeks ago. so it does reinforce continuation of the policy of takinging a strong stand, and the military options are for preemptive strikes are just non-existent according to military exer perts with whom we speak, and john mccain and norse the senate and contrary to, again, casual comments coming out of some white house officials, and some people even opining for other buildings in washington, because there's no preemptive strike to take out the nuclear facilities that are buried so deep underground, and we have very little insight as to where things are that would come completely take out to a facilities and not permit some kind of launch. secondly, the artillery from north korea is awesome, and the million man army and that artillery istrained on 20, 25 million people in
this is undercutting reaching out to north korea. that is also going to undercut by the way, the rather casual comments from president trump that i will meet with everyone, and why wouldn't i meet with him without some preconditions that had been made a couple of weeks ago. so it does reinforce continuation of the policy of takinging a strong stand, and the military options are for preemptive strikes are just non-existent according to military exer perts with whom we speak, and john mccain and...
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that's the approach to confronting an increasingly aggressive north korea. there are questions of whether their current strategy will work and how far president trump is willing to go to contain north korea. the president of the united states meeting with one of the world's most violent repressive dictators. in an interview with bloomberg news, president trump said "if it would be appropriate for me to meet with him, i would absolutely. i would be honored to do it. if it's under the, again, under the right circumstances, but i would do that." >> there is a lot of conditions that would have to happen. to show signs of good faith. if the circumstances present themselves, we would be prepared to, but they are clearly not of this time. >> congressman eliot engel's response. "the president saying he would be honored to meet with a dictator and murderer is the latest example of the dangerous inconsistency coming out of this administration. the trump administration should be devising a credible strategy, not flying by the seat of its pants." in an interview, presid
that's the approach to confronting an increasingly aggressive north korea. there are questions of whether their current strategy will work and how far president trump is willing to go to contain north korea. the president of the united states meeting with one of the world's most violent repressive dictators. in an interview with bloomberg news, president trump said "if it would be appropriate for me to meet with him, i would absolutely. i would be honored to do it. if it's under the,...
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china, as you know, is a neighbor of north korea. they are major trading partner with north korea. they have recently put some restrictions on importing coal from north korea. i think there's other things they can do diplomatically and economically to send a clear signal that they, as well as the united states and other countries in the world do not tolerate this tolerate this expansion of nuclear technology and missiles by the north korean leadership. it's a threat towel after humankind and i think it's critically important that we look at all opportunities to work together. i know that this has been discussed by president trump and president xi. i would want to do all i can to serve as a key go-between as we explore how we can work together with other nations also in asia to address this critical situation. >> so i'm curious whether there air menu of particular economic or diplomatic things question do to heighten the pressure as this pressure continues. and perhaps -- perhaps from a process standpoint you can speak to how you might try and collaborate regionally with -- with the
china, as you know, is a neighbor of north korea. they are major trading partner with north korea. they have recently put some restrictions on importing coal from north korea. i think there's other things they can do diplomatically and economically to send a clear signal that they, as well as the united states and other countries in the world do not tolerate this tolerate this expansion of nuclear technology and missiles by the north korean leadership. it's a threat towel after humankind and i...
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, if north korea continues these acts of provocation. he is also willing to engage. even a president trump said he would be honoured to sit down with kim jong—un. he would be honoured to sit down with kim jong-un. what about concerned about the misao, an intercontinental ballistic misao, it has apparently gone further than any of the previous misao launched by north korea. i think that is actually the greatest concern. these missiles seems to be at the balaji that we have not yet seen before. of course, the scientific assessments are still coming in. much more worrisome is that it is based on a solid fuel and launched from a mobile launcher. it means north korea is steadily advancing its technology but is also able to very quickly launched these missiles without a lot of preamble and so it can be very much a surprise and solid fuel means it can do it very, very quickly which is very warrants for the international community. lots more on our website including tips on how to stay safe. let's take a look at some of the days other news. ac
, if north korea continues these acts of provocation. he is also willing to engage. even a president trump said he would be honoured to sit down with kim jong—un. he would be honoured to sit down with kim jong-un. what about concerned about the misao, an intercontinental ballistic misao, it has apparently gone further than any of the previous misao launched by north korea. i think that is actually the greatest concern. these missiles seems to be at the balaji that we have not yet seen before....
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north korea, did not become instantly dangerous on january 20. lou: no, by the way, the very bias, they love to call it bias, these are complicit journalists, they didn't say a word as president obama pursued policies that made kim jong-un's threats all the more real and all the more difficult for the succeeding president to resolve. out west, they would say damn their hides. thank you very much, appreciate it. >> thanks, lou. lou: on wall street, stocks closing lower for a second straight session. dow down 51 points, the s&p down 3. the nasdaq fell seven points. volume 3.1 billion shares. the yield on the ten-year treasury falling three basis points today, now down to 2.21%, lowest level in two weeks and that yield suggesting that the fed is moving in the opposite direction of the markets. who will prevail? >>> amazon hitting a new milestone with shares topping the $1,000 mark before closing just below it. shares of amazon up 33% so far this year, putting its market cap at almost a half trillion dollars. 478 billion. wow. a reminder to listen to
north korea, did not become instantly dangerous on january 20. lou: no, by the way, the very bias, they love to call it bias, these are complicit journalists, they didn't say a word as president obama pursued policies that made kim jong-un's threats all the more real and all the more difficult for the succeeding president to resolve. out west, they would say damn their hides. thank you very much, appreciate it. >> thanks, lou. lou: on wall street, stocks closing lower for a second...
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now about north korea is importing -- china has stopped import of coal from north korea. but there are many other things that china can do. so we would like to have to encourage china to properly execute its responsibility, and we are watching closely. and the missile with the launch by north korea recently, this is a very high level launch. it has -- for the first time reached altitude of 2,000 kilometers and have the warhead, what is happening on the missile is to be assessed. i believe that was the purpose of the experiment this time. that is how we assess the situation. so the technology of it i -- the missile has progressed and i would like to share this concern so we can exert pressure on north korea and when and if nuclear test is conducted then we need to have additional pressures to be applied through the united nations security council. on this count as well, china should properly take actions and china should understand fully and between united states and china through the summit meeting i understand that there were other talks on this. >> do you think china wi
now about north korea is importing -- china has stopped import of coal from north korea. but there are many other things that china can do. so we would like to have to encourage china to properly execute its responsibility, and we are watching closely. and the missile with the launch by north korea recently, this is a very high level launch. it has -- for the first time reached altitude of 2,000 kilometers and have the warhead, what is happening on the missile is to be assessed. i believe that...
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north korea diplomacy it cannot work. therefore, the thing facing us as north korea should be currently china is using the lateral approach trying to change the south china sea. japan and russia used to have a good relation and when i was the defense minister, it was first carried out very good relationship but at that point russia trade out being electoral the change of status in ukraine in the ukraine from japan but we should not tolerate the coercive that change of status and therefore together with united states japan carried out sanctions with russia and the country relationship have been somewhat strained. i think that is a universal principle for anything that is contrary to this inconsistent with that that is a basic principle of the united states and therefore japan and the united states should be firm up against china to convince to coercive or change the status is not tolerable in the china can respond to that diplomatically. the chinese threat is i don't know if we can call it a threat, it's a long-term threat
north korea diplomacy it cannot work. therefore, the thing facing us as north korea should be currently china is using the lateral approach trying to change the south china sea. japan and russia used to have a good relation and when i was the defense minister, it was first carried out very good relationship but at that point russia trade out being electoral the change of status in ukraine in the ukraine from japan but we should not tolerate the coercive that change of status and therefore...
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with north korea. but bear in mind in the three weeks that he has been president here, there has been a missile launch every single week. so certainly it's difficult to see how that can move forward, how he could have that engagement with north korea that he has said that he would like. and certainly we've seen condemnation from around the region once again with north korea's missile launch. the missile itself at this point is believed to be a scud missile, it's not known exactly what kind of scud. this is a short range missile. so not one of the missiles that is more concerning to the region than the median or longer range, but just the fact that north korea is continuing regardless of international pressure, regardless of sanctions and continuing to test the most intense testing really we've sign over tseen over the past year and a half. >> and now let's go to will ripley in japan. he has been in north korea, as que well. and certainly shinzo abe sounding very upset that yet again a missile comes clo
with north korea. but bear in mind in the three weeks that he has been president here, there has been a missile launch every single week. so certainly it's difficult to see how that can move forward, how he could have that engagement with north korea that he has said that he would like. and certainly we've seen condemnation from around the region once again with north korea's missile launch. the missile itself at this point is believed to be a scud missile, it's not known exactly what kind of...
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also cuts economic ties with north korea. there was a case on industrial complex which was in north korea but had south korean companies working there, as well. she shut that down. said that he would like to see that re-opened. he would like to see economic cooperation between the two increase. so certainly there's a different attack from the new president, but clearly, from north korea. it is business as usual. they are continuing to do these missile launches. and we have heard from the north korean leader that he will continue to perfect his nuclear and missile capabilities, he's doing exactly what he said he would do. that he wants to be able to hit mainland united states with intercontinental missile saying he was close to test launching an icbm. we haven't seen that or seen the nuclear test. but kim jong un is doing what he said he would do. he was clear when he said he would continue with his tests, no matter what the rest of the world did. natalie. >> yes, he certainly seems to be doing that. we thank you paula hancock
also cuts economic ties with north korea. there was a case on industrial complex which was in north korea but had south korean companies working there, as well. she shut that down. said that he would like to see that re-opened. he would like to see economic cooperation between the two increase. so certainly there's a different attack from the new president, but clearly, from north korea. it is business as usual. they are continuing to do these missile launches. and we have heard from the north...
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they are major trading partners with north korea. they haven't recently put some restrictions on importing coal from north korea. i think there's other things they can do diplomatically and economically to send a clear signal that they as well as the united states and other countries in the united world in the world do not tolerate this expansion of a nuclear technology and missiles by the north korean leadership. it's all of humankind it's a threat, it's critically important that we look at all opportunities to work together. i know this has been discussed by president trump and president xi jinping. i would want to do all i can to serve as a key go-between as we explore how we can work together with other nations in asia to address this critical situation. he does not think our state department is doing a good job initiatives to the broader regional concerns. as ambassador to china could you speak to that as you talk to specifics on north korea please. >> i like we should always look at how we can do better and improve and recogniz
they are major trading partners with north korea. they haven't recently put some restrictions on importing coal from north korea. i think there's other things they can do diplomatically and economically to send a clear signal that they as well as the united states and other countries in the united world in the world do not tolerate this expansion of a nuclear technology and missiles by the north korean leadership. it's all of humankind it's a threat, it's critically important that we look at...
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and as he north korea as a market. that's also an area in which there is potential for contradiction between the pressure-led strategy of the united states and a possible emphasis on economic engagement with north korea. isally i think of thes point these are issues that will have to be discussed between leaders of u.s. and south korea. there is probably a way of sequencing a lot of the elements of the strategy the trump administration has laid out together with the approach that sizingesidency is in the -- emphasizing in ways we can move forward. think we should automatically presume we are on a collision course. the fact of the matter is that this is in the concept of alliance. this is a family matter. within families you have to work through these issues in order to be able to move forward. as long as both leaders respect the fact that we are bound by the alliance, i am optimistic we will be able to move forward in a positive way. expect, mr.you song, from mr. moon in terms of north korea policy? i think -- >> do yo
and as he north korea as a market. that's also an area in which there is potential for contradiction between the pressure-led strategy of the united states and a possible emphasis on economic engagement with north korea. isally i think of thes point these are issues that will have to be discussed between leaders of u.s. and south korea. there is probably a way of sequencing a lot of the elements of the strategy the trump administration has laid out together with the approach that sizingesidency...
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in north korea's nuclear behavior. worked to change the doctorate that allowed the regime to proliferate, launch a number of missiles and test nuclear weapons. i think important we look at north korea sanctions act as way forward to deter aggression and induce behavior with north korea and others around the region to put more pressure on the kim jong-un regime and denuclearize it peacefully. but in those conversations we have to consider whether or not china is going to in full faith carry out its commitment under united nations resolutions. right now see them taking actions they haven't in recent years, will that continue or slip back into what china does, a policy of its own doctrine of patience as it relates to north korea. what do you plan to do if china fails to uphold the united nations resolutions or fails to use influence over north korea's regime? >> as you've pointed out, they have not abided by united nations resolutions. and i think what's happening right now with north korea is an example of why that needs
in north korea's nuclear behavior. worked to change the doctorate that allowed the regime to proliferate, launch a number of missiles and test nuclear weapons. i think important we look at north korea sanctions act as way forward to deter aggression and induce behavior with north korea and others around the region to put more pressure on the kim jong-un regime and denuclearize it peacefully. but in those conversations we have to consider whether or not china is going to in full faith carry out...
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if we're in a situation such as north and south korea, the north koreans would have a strong incentive before south korea developed the nuclear weapons to try and destroy them even if they both had them there is a strong incentive to use first and there are other challenges, the small size of the countries, the costs and so on. the public opinion in south korea is strong support for that option. among likely people who will win the presidential election tomorrow, they will not pursue nuclear weapons independently. so far we haven't had to face that dilemma. >> democrats line, michigan. hi there. >> hi, there. if all these countries are for peace, why do we need nuclear warheads in the first place? >> a fundamental question and we need to ask that all the time. president trump, president obama, and others, have said their goal is -- they would like to see a world without nuclear weapons. the problem is how you get there. we've never been in a situation where all the countries that have them would want to give them up because we've never been in a situation where we can be sure that they
if we're in a situation such as north and south korea, the north koreans would have a strong incentive before south korea developed the nuclear weapons to try and destroy them even if they both had them there is a strong incentive to use first and there are other challenges, the small size of the countries, the costs and so on. the public opinion in south korea is strong support for that option. among likely people who will win the presidential election tomorrow, they will not pursue nuclear...
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he wants better relations with north korea. we will look at what else missed them mean‘s victory will mean for his country. america is considering deploying thousands more troops to afghanistan, a shift in policy. live to washington. french politics continues to get shaken up, the former prime minister says he is jumping ship tojoin immanuel macron‘s party. jumping ship tojoin immanuel macron's party. this socialist parties there, it is behind us, not the history and values, but it had to move on. we will look at why minnesota is experiencing one of its worst outbreaks of measles. and right up to date with the champions league. this is south korea's next president. he was favoured to win, im proves president. he was favoured to win, improves doolan promising to prove the economy and relationship with north korea. we still don't have the official results. over 41%, north korea. we still don't have the official results. 0ver41%, double his rival. from tomorrow i will be a president for everyone. i will be a president for ever
he wants better relations with north korea. we will look at what else missed them mean‘s victory will mean for his country. america is considering deploying thousands more troops to afghanistan, a shift in policy. live to washington. french politics continues to get shaken up, the former prime minister says he is jumping ship tojoin immanuel macron‘s party. jumping ship tojoin immanuel macron's party. this socialist parties there, it is behind us, not the history and values, but it had to...
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north korea talking in new defiant tones despite a warning from china that came that if north korea were to conduct any more nuclear tests china would impose unilateral sanctions. north korea saying measures for bolstering the nuclear force to the maximum will be taken at any moment in any place decided by the supreme leadership. the president wants to pursue a diplomatic track but they may impose more sanctions this week. the president again suggested it may take military action to ultimately rein in the regime. listen to his answer asked what he will do if north korea explodes another nuke. >> i would not be happy if he does a nuclear happy, i will not be happy. i can tell you also i don't believe that the president of china, who is a very respected man, will be happy, either. >> not happy mean military action? >> i don't know, we'll see. >> the president also said he is willing to cut a less advantageous trade deal with china than what he promised during the campaign in exchange for china's help on north korea. will to back off a little bit on his central campaign promise because he f
north korea talking in new defiant tones despite a warning from china that came that if north korea were to conduct any more nuclear tests china would impose unilateral sanctions. north korea saying measures for bolstering the nuclear force to the maximum will be taken at any moment in any place decided by the supreme leadership. the president wants to pursue a diplomatic track but they may impose more sanctions this week. the president again suggested it may take military action to ultimately...
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dollar transactions for north korea for six years. north korea is not the most sanctioned country in the world. so those are the common myths that we hear about north korea sanctions. nowhere near we were on iran sanctions before 2013. >> so if you were advising the president or congress as to what kind of sanctions would be effective, what would you institute? >> well, we have to go after china. it's clear the chinese companies and banks are complicit in north korean sanctions. there's networks that are working with north korea. north korea is still sending coal to china, still buying coal. some of the reports suggest. so it all goes through china. it's important to go to southeast asia and talk about sanction sanctions. the chinese won't put the pressure until their own interests are at risk. >> jon: you get the impression that kim jong-un listens to only his own council. he wants nuclear weapons. he has nuclear weapons because it will ensure the survival of his regime. can sanctions do anything to dissuade him? >> they can. i think
dollar transactions for north korea for six years. north korea is not the most sanctioned country in the world. so those are the common myths that we hear about north korea sanctions. nowhere near we were on iran sanctions before 2013. >> so if you were advising the president or congress as to what kind of sanctions would be effective, what would you institute? >> well, we have to go after china. it's clear the chinese companies and banks are complicit in north korean sanctions....
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china, as you know, is a neighbor of north korea. they are major trading partner with north korea. they have recently put some restrictions on importing coal from north korea. i think there's other things they can do diplomatically and economically to send a clear signal that they, as well as the united states and other countries in the world do not tolerate this expansion of nuclear technology and missiles by the north korean leadership. it's a threat towel after humankind and i think it's critically important that we look at all opportunities to work together. i know that this has been discussed by president trump and president xi. i would want to do all i can to serve as a key go-between as we explore how we can work together with other nations also in asia to address this critical situation. >> so i'm curious whether there air menu of particular economic or diplomatic things question do to heighten the pressure as this pressure continues. and perhaps -- perhaps from a process standpoint you can speak to how you might try and collaborate regionally with -- with the regional bure
china, as you know, is a neighbor of north korea. they are major trading partner with north korea. they have recently put some restrictions on importing coal from north korea. i think there's other things they can do diplomatically and economically to send a clear signal that they, as well as the united states and other countries in the world do not tolerate this expansion of nuclear technology and missiles by the north korean leadership. it's a threat towel after humankind and i think it's...
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south korea's new president says he favours more dialogue with the north. he is starting his first day in office after victory in tuesday's election. and fine—tuning one of the world's iconic buildings. renovation gets under way to improve the acoustics inside sydney's opera house. hello. president trump's decision to fire the director of the fbi has been met with widespread shock and a mass of questions. james comey was the man in charge of investigating russian interference in the us presidential election, and whether or not the trump campaign colluded with the russians. the white house says mr comey has been dismissed on the recommendation of the attorney general, jeff sessions, and his deputy. their letters to him have been made public. president trump told the fbi director he was not able to effectively lead the bureau, and went on to say he was hereby terminated and removed from office, effective immediately, and that it was essential to find new leadership. the democratic leader of the senate, chuck schumer, told president trump he was making a big
south korea's new president says he favours more dialogue with the north. he is starting his first day in office after victory in tuesday's election. and fine—tuning one of the world's iconic buildings. renovation gets under way to improve the acoustics inside sydney's opera house. hello. president trump's decision to fire the director of the fbi has been met with widespread shock and a mass of questions. james comey was the man in charge of investigating russian interference in the us...
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they're accepting that north korea is making progress. one interesting part of the missile test that happened on sunday, is what we're seeing on the front page of the north korean newspaper this monday morning they have images, of course, as north korean leader delighted with scientists and his aides. but also images of earth, which were claims were taken from the missile itself as it was going into the atmosphere. now, this is crucial because the reentry process is one, that up until recently, experts did not believe north korea had the ability to do. this is crucial for longer range missile for intercontinental ballistic missile, they have to be able to reenter this missile war head into the atmosphere and as far as north korea is concerned, they're showing the world with these -- sharing the world with these imagines. >> let's talk about the reaction in seoul, we've seen that nation in transition, a new president there, who has made it clear he's open to more engagement with north korea, this latest test, how is it that testing with th
they're accepting that north korea is making progress. one interesting part of the missile test that happened on sunday, is what we're seeing on the front page of the north korean newspaper this monday morning they have images, of course, as north korean leader delighted with scientists and his aides. but also images of earth, which were claims were taken from the missile itself as it was going into the atmosphere. now, this is crucial because the reentry process is one, that up until recently,...
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let's talk north korea. that is obviously one of your special subjects. you famously went to pyongyang as the us lead negotiator at a time when you were desperately trying to find and negotiated way through the nuclear crisis with north korea. donald trump's style on north korea is, it seems, to mix bellicose language with actually signals that no other president has sent about his willingness to meet face—to—face. what do you make of that? very true. first of all, i think he has understood that north korea is a top of the charts issue these days. i mean, it's not going away. they are very much focused on developing deliverable nuclear weapons. i think he understands that during this term of his that he will quite likely face the american people in 2020 and have to explain what he has done about this north korean threat. i think he looks at this as a transactional negotiation. he can get the chinese to do what other people couldn't get them to do. and that somehow, he can find a sort of formula in negotiations that will make the north korean say, oh,
let's talk north korea. that is obviously one of your special subjects. you famously went to pyongyang as the us lead negotiator at a time when you were desperately trying to find and negotiated way through the nuclear crisis with north korea. donald trump's style on north korea is, it seems, to mix bellicose language with actually signals that no other president has sent about his willingness to meet face—to—face. what do you make of that? very true. first of all, i think he has understood...
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north korea has fired another ballistic missile. south korean officials say it flew about 500 kilometers or 300 miles, that's a shorter distance than the last missile test. >> that one was launched about a week ago and was according to north korea considered a success. >>> a story we continue to follow, also the u.s. president donald trump, he has a packed schedule in saudi arabia. he is at a gathering of arab leaders in riyadh, after meeting personally with several of them. in the coming hours the president is set to five an important speech about fighting radicalism. >>> the leaders of russia and syria are congratulating iran's president on his re-election. hasan rouhani was a force with the u.s. and other partners. >>> if you are just joining us in the u.s. or around the world, there is breaking news we are following on the korean peninsula. south korean officials say north korea fired some type of ballistic missile. alexander field is following all the details. we understand now the white house is aware of what happened. what mo
north korea has fired another ballistic missile. south korean officials say it flew about 500 kilometers or 300 miles, that's a shorter distance than the last missile test. >> that one was launched about a week ago and was according to north korea considered a success. >>> a story we continue to follow, also the u.s. president donald trump, he has a packed schedule in saudi arabia. he is at a gathering of arab leaders in riyadh, after meeting personally with several of them. in...
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above all, north korea, but also iran. host: when it comes to not only --ea's capability, but if what would be our current capacity to stop that? guest: the current systems we 40 longilable are about wait -- long-range ballistic -- mostly in alaska and a few in california. they are basically after the north korea missile leaves the country heading into outer space, we would try to shoot it down in space by having one of these hit and destroy it just by the impact of kinetic energy. the current system is thought to be able to deal with several missiles. north korea does not have a capability proven to -- a proven capability to launch such a missile. korea, japan, u.s. forces, and guam. we have shorter range defenses to do with those threats. host: we will continue our conversation especially when it comes with north korea. if you want to ask questions -- and you can tweet us. a bit about u.s. capability. when you say it could meet midair to knock a missile out, how does that work specifically? guest: during the cold war, in
above all, north korea, but also iran. host: when it comes to not only --ea's capability, but if what would be our current capacity to stop that? guest: the current systems we 40 longilable are about wait -- long-range ballistic -- mostly in alaska and a few in california. they are basically after the north korea missile leaves the country heading into outer space, we would try to shoot it down in space by having one of these hit and destroy it just by the impact of kinetic energy. the current...
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in dealing with north korea? >> president duterte could help the united states in dealing with north korea, but human rights are an absolutely fundamental part of america's values and america's interests, and to turn a blind eye to the sort of gross human rights violations that president duterte has been carrying out against his own people in the philippines doesn't in the bigger picture making us safer. standing by and embracing autocrats and dictators it is something that undermines our long-term national security. >> does meeting with a leader like duterte or others necessarily mean the u.s. is embracing all of their policies? >> not necessarily, wolf. that's why it's important to make that distinction. i'm not suggesting that we wall ourselves off from the world and refuse to make overtures or begin negotiations with countries like the philippines that have long been a united states ally but for the president himself issue the invitation and say he would be honored to meet with him while making no comments ab
in dealing with north korea? >> president duterte could help the united states in dealing with north korea, but human rights are an absolutely fundamental part of america's values and america's interests, and to turn a blind eye to the sort of gross human rights violations that president duterte has been carrying out against his own people in the philippines doesn't in the bigger picture making us safer. standing by and embracing autocrats and dictators it is something that undermines our...
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in north korea. there have been others recently. are you concerned that perhaps your son and those other detainees could be used by north korea or looked upon as possible bargaining chips to gain leverage when it comes to escalating tensions with the united states? >> certainly, but cindy and i have made the decision not to engage in politics or diplomacy here, so we want to -- our administration has big problems to focus on concerning north korea, and -- and we feel that they can manage two things at once if they choose to do so. one is focus on the big picture of the north korea/u.s. relations, and in addition to that we hope and pray that they focus on otto and the other detainees and they do two things at once, so we -- we're hopeful that both of these can be resolved. >> all right. cindy and fred warmbier, thanks for coming on and saying your story. the best to you and your family for a positive outcome. >> thanks so much for having us. >>> we're following breaking news on the campus of the university of texas austin where at l
in north korea. there have been others recently. are you concerned that perhaps your son and those other detainees could be used by north korea or looked upon as possible bargaining chips to gain leverage when it comes to escalating tensions with the united states? >> certainly, but cindy and i have made the decision not to engage in politics or diplomacy here, so we want to -- our administration has big problems to focus on concerning north korea, and -- and we feel that they can manage...