. >> so white house correspondent yamiche alcindor in washington, jennifer rubin, both are msnbc contributors. i'll start with you yamiche, in full disclosure here, i am not familiar with the thorough machinations of government funding. i don't know the budgetary process as well as you and some of the other reporters there in washington, but is it possible that the president can just fine a few billion dollars for his wall without using congress? >> to my understanding there's no way for him to do that. the main thing to remember here, craig, is that there was already a deal last year to give him $1.3 billion, and the president now this year is saying i don't want that money. i want all $5 billion. up until his interview this morning, the president was sticking to that $5 billion amount. he was saying he wasn't going to budge. he said he welcomed the idea of a shutdown and would be proud to shut down the government over border security, and now you have sarah sanders saying, actually, hold on, maybe we can find a couple billion dollars somewhere else. that's going to be very, very hard, and c