i went to an undergrad at saint bonaventure. i always consider my seven years at pepsico as my postgraduate, because it is a fascinating company. david: you are at frito-lay and then a headhunter called you and said how about delta airlines? ed: i was traveling 80% of my time, a lot of international. i already thought i knew how the airlines worked. i knew the things that needed to be fixed about the airlines to make it better. you get there and take a peek behind the curtain and see how complex it is. i never understood what actually went into it. it was an industry that was fascinating to me because i was a big consumer of it. david: so you became a senior vice president for finance, then you became the chief financial officer. then you became the president, then the ceo in may 2016, right? ed: that's correct. david: you had some problems before you became the ceo and ultimately delta filed for bankruptcy in 2005. why did you have to file for bankruptcy? ed: it was the aftermath of a series of events which 9/11 triggered. we l

i just went to an undergrad at saint bonaventure. i've always considered to this day my seven years at pepsico as , my postgraduate work, because it is a fascinating company. david: you are at frito-lay and then a headhunter, somebody called you and said how about delta airlines? ed: yeah, yeah. i was an active business traveler. i was traveling probably 80% of my time, a lot internationally. i already thought i knew how the airlines worked. i knew the things that needed to be fixed about the airlines to actually make it better. of course, i get there, and you actually take a peek behind the curtain and see how complex it is. i never understood what actually went into it. it was an industry that was fascinating to me because i was a big consumer of it. david: so you became a senior vice president for finance eventually then you became the , chief financial officer. ed: chief financial officer. david: then you became the president, and then you became the ceo in may 2016, right? ed: that's correct. david: you had some problems before

and maria bonaventure fired in april, the star witnesses told , i don't think we would be here if not for him. now this hit piece and it is a hit piece has you on the record admitting that you forced out maria and said you needed her out of the way but you're a personal attorney for the president so why do you need her out of the way? >> i forced her out because she was corrupt. i came back with a document that will show unequivocally that she committed perjury when she said she turned down the visa for mr. chopin because of corruption. the fact is on the record in the state department's own record, the reason given is because he had an operation and have not recovered yet. the operation was of course two years before but documentary evidence she committed perjury. i have four witnesses who will testify that she personally turned down their visas because they were going to come here and give evidence either against biden were against the democratic party. there is no question that she was acting corruptly in that position and had to be removed. she should have been fired at the state

i just went to an undergrad at saint bonaventure. i always considered to this day my training my seven years at , pepsico as my postgraduate work because it is a fascinating company. david: you are at frito-lay and then a headhunter called you and said, how about delta airlines? ed: yeah. yeah. i was an active business traveler. i was traveling probably 80% of my time, a lot internationally. so i thought i already knew how the airlines worked. i knew the things that needed to be fixed about the airlines to make it better. of course, i get there and you actually take a peek behind the curtains and see how complex it is. well, i never understood what actually went into it, but it was an industry that was fascinating to me because i was a big consumer of it. david: so you became a senior vice president for finance eventually then you became the , chief financial officer. ed: chief financial officer. david: then you became the president, then you became the ceo in may of 2016, right? ed: that's correct. david: you had some problems befor