the question for eileen and will. what has changed working at a university press.the book acquired the mission of the university press. when we start with you eileen. >> what has changed since when you say of the past 5 to 10 years.you and i have worked together with eileen and why you before that privilege. a lot has changed. >> a lot has changed. when i think about i've been in publishing for a really long time like 25 years i think. we've seen a total change. one funny thing that happens now is no one males back their contracts anymore. in fact, actually i have someone i feel really bad she was posted to this code should as an attachment where she was in california and she had to flee from the fires. then she managed to get back to her house and printed it out and mailing back to me. technology has changed so much of how we physically produce these things. in our contract it says you're supposed to turn in the double-sided typewritten manuscript and nobody does that anymore either. it's all on disk all on the cloud