to secure federal property. but they're there looking for a fight, looking for a brawl. these men as has been reported have no training for the mission. this is thuggery, it's federal thuggery. and it's frightening. ronald reagan said that freedom is only one generation away ever from being extinguished. and this should scare the hell out of every american. when secretary ridge has decried that, we should listen to that seriously. we have a former hill staffer and lobbyist who is an acting secretary who is unconfirmable who is in charge of this out of control federal agency. i think going back to its creation after the 9/11 attacks, the name was always inappropriate, but the homeland security department needs to be broken up and reorganized. it has turned into something monstrous. what donald trump is doing here is an outrage against american liberty and an assault on our constitutional values. and that these men are armed like that, facing off against americans exercising their first amendment rights, the overr

these are how they're facing off against unmarked federal marshals and federal agents who are doing the bidding of the president of the united states who's become, in so many ways, unhinged. >> in 20 years, david, or 25 years, you are a creature of history, they will ask us what did you do in 2020? what's the right answer? >> think we all have our roles to play. most citizens with their role to play is finally what's available to them is the ballot, despite in many states ballot being suppressed the people have protested. journalists should be doing their jobs with -- with real rigor and honesty and clarity. you are doing your work. i mean, this is -- from the very first day the challenge of the trump presidency has been to be vigilant about creeping authoritarianism. and when i said that and many others said that, people thought this was very alarmist. oh, no, he's just kind of a clown from new york and this isn't going to be very serious and the challenge is not as desperate as all that. i'm sorry it became worse than i ever imagined, worse than so many people had ever imagined and it

no strings attached. >>> there are just under 1,800 federal judges in our country. they're important, powerful members of our society they're appointed to the bench for life last night a gunman dressed as a deliveryman went to the home of a federal judge in a residential neighborhood in new jersey and started firing, killing the judge's college-age son, critically wounding her husband. the judge was fine today that suspected gunman was found dead of a suspected suicide. our report on all of it tonight from nbc news correspondent anne thompson >> reporter: they are a legal power couple federal judge esther salas and her criminal defense attorney husband mark anderl. their domestic life shattered late sunday afternoon. law enforcement sources say a gunman dressed as a deliveryman shot mark as he answers the door and then killed their only child daniel as he tried to help his father >> such kind people. always so proud of their son >> reporter: daniel, a 20-year-old student at catholic university, wanted to follow in his parents' footsteps salas, a trailblazer, new jer

make a note, we need to forbid police and federal agents from using military uniforms. the camo uniforms are meant to blend into terrain they want to be warriors, should be in full police uniforms the want-to-be warriors, forgive me, should be in full police uniforms with names and badge numbers. this secret police b.s. is a misuse of the department of homeland security. general, i've been waiting to talk to you because if we saw this in the chile of augusto pinochet, we'd think it's a military junta jumping out of an unmarked van in the streets of a city this is the united states of america. first of all, what's with the camo second of all, what's their chain of command, do you think >> well, look, this is a troubling situation. there's no question portland's been in chaos for almost two months now and by the way, the state of oregon has 6,700 law enforcement officers, 8,000-some-odd national guard so they've got adequate manpower and resources to deal with these problems but as you know, brian, our constitution essentially has the overwhelming majority of criminal law

it could be the federal government. because the federal government is designed, and i stress designed to take a secondary role in national elections, it is the state's call as to how they want to conduct their own election. >> all right, danny, my friend. great to see you. >>> still ahead, everybody, new reporting this morning about russian efforts to spread disinformation about the coronavirus pandemic. what u.s. officials are saying about that. we are back in a moment. we are . ♪ right now, there are over a million walmart associates doing their best to keep our nation going. because despite everything that's changed, one thing hasn't and that's our devotion to you and our communities. our priority will always be to keep you and our associates safe, while making sure you can still get the essentials you need. ♪ [(vo)stinct radio chatter] audi e-tron. the next frontier of electric. get an exceptional offer at your local audi dealer. our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. with us... turns out it's mostly water. so,

i was a federal agent for 25 yea years. when i led fbi offices, one of the things i had to make certain of that i wasn't asking agents to do something that would put them in legal jeopardy and take them outside the scope of their employment. i'm here to appeal to those dhs agents today and say there will one day be a legal reckoning for what you are being asked to do. and you are compelled to stand by the rule of law and the constitution. you are operating outside the scope of your employment when you take people off the street, nowhere near federal buildings, when you don't tell them they're under arrest, when you don't tell them your name and your agency, and when you release them, because you know you have no probable cause to arrest them. there will be a reckoning. you need to get your professional liability insurance paid up. >> let me ask you, let me follow up on the legal and the professional insurance thread. they are dressed in fatigues. general millie took a whole lot of heat for dressing like he was in fallujah,

at the end when you see assaults being made on federal buildings, on a federal courthouse, vandali vandalism, it would be totally promote for federal officers, for marshals to be deployed around the perimeter of a building, securing federal property, but they're there looking for a fight, looking for a brawl. these men as has been reported have no training for the mission. this is thuggery, it's federal thuggery. and it's frightening. ronald reagan said that freedom is only one generation away ever from being extinguished. and this should scare the hell out of every american. when secretary churve ridge has decried that, we should listen to that seriously. we have a former hill staffer and lobbyist who is an acting secretary who is unconfirmable who is in charge of this out-of-control federal agency. i think going back to its creation after the 9/11 attacks, the name was always inappropriate, but the homeland security department needs to be broken up and reorganized. it has turned into something monstrous. what donald trump is doing here is an outrage against american liberty and an assault

federal agents launched tear gas into the crowd after protesters attempted to breach the federal courthouse that has been the site of the most violent clashes. "the washington post" reporting today, quote, more federal agents have been dispatched to portland as protests rise in other cities. the president for his part threatened protesters who vandalized federal buildings with a minimum ten years in prison. city officials say they've asked for a meeting with homeland security officials to talk about what they're calling a cease-fire and request the removal of federal forces. all of this as the attorney general, bill barr, scheduled to answer questions about the federal response to the protests on the hill tomorrow. and at long last, back with us again tonight is our friend barbara mcquade, veteran federal prosecutor and former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan. so, barb, if the legal cover the feds are operating under is the protection of federal buildings and facilities, why not take the advice, if you're the protesters, of your friend and ours, your former fellow fed, joy

and why the federal government thinks it is wise to continue to press federal law enforcement agents into service in portland and seattle and perhaps other cities. dan goldman was asking questions during the house impeachment th hearings. he did a superb job. it was wonderful to hear somebody who knows how to ask questions ask questions. you often don't see that in congressional hearings. you hear a lot of speeches and a good bit of argument. there are so many important questions to be asked and so many real answers that we need. i just hope we get some of them today. >> hopefully so. maya, in his prepared opening remarks, bill barr is expected to point to statistics from "the washington post" that the number of unarmed black men killed by police so far is, a, he says the number of unarmed white men killed by police over the same period is 11, compared to 8. how do you feel that will sit knowing that the president has evoked the same argument, that more white people are killed by police than black men? >> i'll tell you how several members will react which is the way many people react

one cannot witness federal agents in portland and arrive at any conclusion other than what our federal government is doing is both wrong and unconstitutional. even parts of the government seem to know it's wrong. the department of justice's inspector general is investigating the agency's own response. when we see governments around the world express dissent or opposition most of us are universally critical of it. the first amendment of the constitution prevents the government from prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech or the press or the right of the people peacefully to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. that is the right to protest. for the government to ignore those words or to bend them so that the presence of federal troops at demonstrations are seen as necessary to counter the proportionately small examples of violence or destruction of property points us collectively down a road to authoritarianism. like a lazy weekend drive, the road to authoritarianism is slow. the bends are almost inperceptible. authoritaria

federal courts are under attack. since when is it okay to try to burn down a federal court? >> customs and border patrol tells nbc news it is sending more agents to portland. last week attorney general barr and trump announced more agents would be dispatched to places like chicago and other cities dealing with a rise in crime this summer. new york democratic senator jerry nadler wanted to know if he ever discussed the upcoming election. >> yes or no? have you discussed the president's re-election campaign with the president or with any white house official or any surrogate of the president? >> have you discussed that topic with him? >> not in relation to this program. >> i didn't ask that. >> i'm a member of the cabinet and there's an election going on. obviously the topic comes up. >> the answer is yes. >> the topic comes up in cabinet meetings and other things. it shouldn't be a surprise that the topic -- >> i didn't say it was a surprise. >> barr also said he thought there was a high risk of voter fraud with mail-in balloting and we should apply. in two noetdable ways, is

but by these federal officers. it is really stunning that the attorney general of the united states has really taken his view of law enforcement to this point. and i think all of us should be frightened at the use of federal resources to come down on peaceful protests. whether those protests take place in washington, d.c., or in seattle, washington, or portland, oregon. >> donna, i want to show you one more piece of sound. this is congressman richmond on diversity or the lack thereof at doj. >> the one thing that you have in common with your two predecessors, both attorney general sessions and attorney general whitaker, is that when you all came here and brought your top staff, you brought no black people. that, sir, is systematic racism. that is exactly what john lewis spent his life fighting. and so i would just suggest that actions speak louder than words, and you really should keep the name of the honorable john lewis out of the department of justice's mouth. >> donna edwards? >> yeah, this is where i think whe

make a note, we need to forbid police and federal agents from using military uniforms. the camo uniforms are meant to blend into terrain they want to be warriors, should be in full police uniforms the want to be warriors, forgive me, should be in full police uniforms with names and badge numbers. this secret police b.s. is a misuse of the department of homeland security. general, i've been waiting to talk to you because if we saw this in the chile of augusto pinochet, we'd think it's a military junta jumping out of an unmarked van in the streets of a city this is the united states of america. first of all, what's with the camo second of all, what's their chain of command, do you think >> well, look, this is a troubling situation. there's no question portland's been in chaos for almost two months now and by the way, the state of oregon has 6,700 law enforcement officers, 8,000-some-odd national guard so they've got adequate manpower and resources to deal with these problems but as you know, brian, our constitution essentially has the overwhelming majority of criminal law

most of the federal buildings are protected by contractor and a few officers from federal protective service, and generally that worked. what we saw play out in portland was a reinforcement with tactical officers from the border and the u.s. marshals. i have the highest respect for the marshals. when i grew up in the south and integrating school, they escorted people to reinforce federal law they would integrate the school. the border patrol. i worked with them on the southern border, ridden with them in a vehicle, showing the challenge they have in protecting it. i think much like the military, they were given a mission that exceeded what they normally do which is to focus on people who break federal law as well as protecting the border. i think it is an overreach of what the white house tried to do, using the uniformed military. i'm happy to see they worked out a compromise and that the governor will protect the outside of that courthouse, let federal officers protect the front step of that courthouse. >> general honore, the model is to be replicated in other cities as brian said u

administration saying hey, that is to defend that federal courthouse, federal property there in portland and also chicago where you've seen this explosion in murder and violent crime in the last few months. the president does have a deal of some sorts in place there with the city's mayor to have federal agents working with law enforcement there. i saw the mayor today was saying i'll draw the line at any kind of federal troops in the city but this is an area, not just the president's publishing message and rhetoric, they are trying to back it up with action. is there more we can expect in that front? >> i think there is absolutely more that you can expect on that front. listen, steve, we know that the 100-day mark comes to kick off a consequential week to what is consequential election and seeing the president make a shift in terms of the public health response to covid-19 but the dual pandemics of coronavirus and systemic racism are still on going and the president's messaging around law and order, if anything has been a message he's doubled down on. this 100-day mark comes as we prepare

we don't have a federal response. the response has just been an acceptable level of infection and death. and if it were not for experts like dr. hotez, we would be in far worse trouble than we're in. i am fascinated to see federal reserve board members, senator lindsey graham, brian kilmeade on "fox & friends" and others starting to sound the alarm about the fact that we're in a huge testing backlog. and that means they're desperate to get through to the president. >> this is one of those days where we can't let anyone go anywhere just yet. everyone stays put, and when we come back, more on donald trump's war on science. the fact that it's both dangerous to the public's health and it turns out based on the most recent polls, it's stupid politics. so why, oh, why, is donald trump doubling down on it as cases surge. >>> and the president's intervention is the latest not-s not-so-veiled dog whistle. >>> and brand-new rust belt polling that puts joe biden way ahead of donald trump in must-win territory for the incumbent.

we don't need those federal troops. and we want them to either stay in their federal building, or we want them to leave. >> ted wheeler, the mayor of portland, oregon, who again has his hands full on the streets of that city. mr. mayor, thank you very much for making time for us. >> thank you, brian. >>> we ask for the attention of our audience at this moment for terrible news just in to us and just confirmed by us. the death of legendary georgia democratic congressman and civil rights icon john lewis. we have a look back at his extraordinary life and times from nbc news correspondent geoff bennett. >> reporter: congressman john lewis was often called the conscience of congress, known as a moral leader who commanded respect from democrats and republicans, seen as one of the last unifying forces in national politics. lewis was one of ten children born to sharecroppers in rural alabama in 1940. he grew up on his family's farm and attended segregated public schools. lewis said he was inspired as a young boy by the activism

it applies to all his federal agents. if necessary, they will be arrested, they will be prosecuted and they can face a philadelphia jury one way or another. >> if these federal agents violate the rights of your citizens, that the agents themselves would be subject to arrest? >> i'm saying that when you break people's skulls with rubber bullets without lawful justification, when you kidnap them off the street without probable cause in your military gear with your names hidden, these are crimes under pennsylvania law. as the prosecutorial authority in philadelphia acting under pennsylvania law, they will be prosecuted under pennsylvania law. it is my hope that federal agents in philadelphia will follow the law, they will obey the constitution, and we will not have a problem with that. that's not what we're seeing in portland. everything in portland looks like illegal conduct and we're not going to permit it. >> you know, i wanted to clarify that. thank you for being here, all of you. i wanted to clarify that for you because

the federal government has complete control over what it does in federal buildings. the government can complain about the feds being on the ground conducting general police activities because that is prohibited by the tenth amend. that is unconstitutional. the kbrongovernor and police hae ability, but when it comes to federal buildings, the feds have exclusive authority and they can enter into a deal. if the governor wants to push back, they can say, we don't care what you say. we're going to those federal buildings, and there's nothing you can do about it. >> i've got another one for you, danny, but stand by. i want to take folks through it. the second of the four officers charged in the death of george floyd is moving to have the charges against him dismissed. roberts paul arguing that his client's charges should be dropped for lack of probable cause. thao had to know the others were going to commit a crime and also that thao intended to commit the actions. he says it disputes such a finding. how likely is he to win this motion especially when you have multiple ang

that's a federal rule 5.1 that determines that. but when people get taken into custody, something has to be done immediately we don't have any of these questions and a lot of them normally would be answered by the u.s. attorney's office i think this is part of the reasons why the attorney general's office has filed that lawsuit and we have some very difficult questions to be answered, right now in portland, before trump or the federal government starts taking similar action in other cities but this seems to be a big warning and something that we all need to be watching and monitoring very carefully, especially as it relates to how local law enforcement may be involved or utilized in joint efforts. >> paul henderson, thank you, as always really appreciate it when we're back in 30 seconds, some very special guests on the legacy of john lewis think of people in a place. but when you have the chase mobile app, your bank can be virtually any place. so, when you get a check... you can deposit it from here. and you can see your transactio

federalism. the idea is that they have their ability to handle their own problems internally without resorting to the federal government unless they want that oversight. >> professor, i'm old enough to remember in law school when they teach you it is a traditionally conservative value to defer to local authorities. >> again, that's the point. the idea of sending in the federal government unilaterally would be for many who consider themselves conservatives or libertarians, the kind of tyrannical intervention that the constitution would pro had i been, certainly frown upon. >> we always end a little more informed, professor murray. i appreciate you giving us time in your class tonight. >> thanks so much. >> thank you. >> now, it's not all gloom and doom. this is some political news that a lot of people in the democratic party have been waiting for. obama obama back on the campaign trail just like the famous internet meme, reunited and it feels so good. that celebrates when people happily reunited,

other federal buildings. our law enforcement officers are going to respond in kind. >> oregon governor kate brown has called what the administration is doing an extraordinary abuse of power and wants them out. but says acting secretary wolf has refused. you can't make this stuff up. a former assistant director at the fbi told my colleague last night he's never seen any like this in all of his years of law enforcement. >> in my 25 years in federal law enforcement, i have never seen deployment of federal resources in these kinds of circumstances without a request or at least an acknowledgement and concurrence of local, county, and state authorities. >> four democratic lawmakers who represent oregon are now calling on the specteinspectors general investigate these actions. joining me now is susan bonamici who represents oregon's first district. i was talking to representative blum blumen in our and he said there was no request or coordination that these federal people, i don't know what you call them, troops or

he wanted to ask the kennedy administration which side is the federal government on. he wanted to say we're going to burn jim crow to the ground nonviolently the old school aluminum nares, people like a phillip randolph and worry wilkins, they told him to chill, to tone it down. he never lost that fire. john lewis was arrested over 45 times, including many instances in which he was a congressman and still doing the protests, still getting arrested one of his most famous arrests, that bloody sunday in 1965 when the police beat up him and many other nonviolent protesters. three weeks later president johnson signs the voting rights act widely considered the most successful civil rights act of all time at the time that that bill was signed, there were six african-american congressman in 2018 there are 52 what a remarkable life what a struggle martin luther king thought about nobody did the struggle for people justice better than john lewis. >> basil, what should america learn from the legacy of john lewis particularly as it might inform the civil unrest that we're seeing

>> the framers designed our constitution so the federal government would have authority over federal things, war, making money, things like that, while the state have the police power. that's a very broad power that covers law enforcement. federal agents are not supposed to engage in general roving law enforcement. that's something reserved exclusively to the states by the amendment. so you notice the government here is wording what they're doing very carefully, at least officially. they're saying, oh, we're supporting local police, and to that extent, we're only supporting them insofar as we enforce federal law like drug crimes or gun crimes or things like that because they know whether they're in seattle, no matter where they are, federal agents can not start engaging in general law enforcement and taking on traditional local law enforcement activities. that is flat out unconstitutional. >> so jumping off of what tom ridge said in which he said, and i quote, it would be a cold day in hell before he would consent to an uninvited intervention in one of his cities, dannydanny, these l

president trump and the federal government's response to the covid-19 pandemic continues to have devastating effects on jobs and the economy. more than 1.4 million americans filed for new unemployment claims last week. that's the first time that has gone up since march, reversing a downward trend. new weekly claims have hovered above 1 million for 18 straight weeks now which is shocking when compared to the fact that the number never surpassed 700,000 in a month before the pandemic hit. tens of millions of americans remain on unemployment but because of disagreements among congressional republicans and the white house, there is almost certainly going to be a lapse in the $600 per week enhanced federal pandemic unemployment benefits upon which millions of americans currently rely. a staffer for republican congressman verne buchanan of florida died from coronavirus becoming the first confirmed coronavirus death of a capitol hill staffer. nationally there are more than 4.1 million total cases. 1 million of those diagnosed in the last two weeks. new case numbers are above 70,000 a day and fast a

we don't need those federal troops. and we want them to either stay in their federal building, or we want them to leave. >> ted wheeler, the mayor of portland, oregon, who again has his hands full on the streets of that city. mr. mayor, thank you very much for making time for us. >> thank you, brian. >> we asked for the attention of our audience at this moment for terrible news just in to us and just confirmed by us. the death of legendary georgia democratic congressman and civil rights icon john lewis. we have a look back at his extraordinary life and times from nbc news correspondent geoff bennett. >> reporter: congressman john lupis was often called the conscience of congress, known as a morlt leader who commanded respect from democrats and republicans, seen as one of the last unifying forces in national politics. lewis was one of ten children born to sharecroppers in rural alabama in 1940. he grew up on his family's farm and attended segregated public schools. lewis said he was inspired as a young boy by the activis

we really need the federal government to help. the hospitality industry, restaurants, bars, all their workers are being hit really, really hard. the child care industry needs support if it is going to be able to sustain itself and the infrastructure and provide opportunity for workers to be able to go back to work. the economic crisis here is severe. and we need congress to get its act together and to come with the cares 2 proposal. >> i have to switch gears and ask you about a protester that was shot and killed during a black lives matter demonstration in your city on saturday. police say 28-year-old protester garrett foster armed, the driver fatally shot foster, the driver later called to report he shot someone. update us on the investigation and if you expect any charges. >> i don't know the answer to that. the investigation is ongoing. it is a tragic event all around. the -- everybody has the mental image of the driver in charlottesville. so when you are in that kind of situation, tragic things happen and they happened here. i

federal courts are under attack. since when is it okay to try to burn down a federal court? >> customs and border control tells nbc news it is sending more agents to portland. last week attorney general barr and trump announced that more agents would be dispatched to places like chicago and other cities dealing with a rise in crime this summer. the judiciary committee chairman, new york democratic congressman jerry nadler, wanted to know if barr had ever discussed the deployments in the context of the upcoming election. >> have you -- now, yes or no? have you discussed the president's re-election campaign with the president or with any white house official or any surrogate of the president? >> well, i'm not going to get into my discussions with the president. >> have you discussed that topic with him, yes or no? >> not in relation to this program. >> i didn't ask that. i asked if you discussed that with -- >> i'm a member of the cabinet, and there's an election going on. obviously the topic comes up. >> so the answer is yes? >> well, if the topic comes up and cabinet meeting

federal courts are under attack. since when is it okay to try to burn down a federal court? >> customs and border control tells nbc news it is sending more agents to portland. last week attorney general barr and trump announced that more agents would be dispatched to places like chicago and other cities dealing with a rise in crime this summer. the judiciary committee chairman, new york democratic congressman jerry nadler, wanted to know if barr had ever discussed the deployments in the context of the upcoming election. >> have you -- now, yes or no? have you discussed the president's re-election campaign with the president or with any white house official or any surrogate of the president? >> well, i'm not going to get into my discussions with the president. >> have you discussed that topic with him, yes or no? >> not in relation to this program. >> i didn't ask that. i asked if you discussed that with -- >> i'm a member of the cabinet, and there's an election going on. obviously the topic comes up. >> so the answer is yes? >> well, the topic comes up and cabinet meetings a

troops or federal law enforcement officers to go into these cities. and i just think it's hypocritical, too, just from an ideological standpoint. let states and localities make their own decisions, like on covid, for example, which there should have been more federal leadership. in this case, he's saying, you know, we're going to bring in troops, even though the local officials in many cases don't want that help. >> you know, cornell, the only -- it's so cynical, it's so dark, just asking the question feels icky, but it seems the only protection from this is the kind of ground swell of public support for the original cause. the protest started after the killing of george floyd and you've got anywhere from 67 to 74% of americans identifying themselves as agreeing with the aims of black lives matter. but i wonder with your expertise and your eye towards public opinion and images, if democrats, you think, have any concern or should have any concern about these images? >> well, yes, i think we should have some concern about these images, because, look, th

there's a federal responsibility to the states. we've seen that argument play out over the last 40 to 50 years. this is a contaaricature of tha argument. devolving the responsibility to states is not just patch work, it's catch is, catch can. you have over 130,000 americans who have lost their lives. what we're seeing is mind numbing incompetence and the bankruptcy of a particular ideological position. >> i'm coming back to the conversation you and david jolly had this week, it's also freakin' stupid. t kemp is going to kill people. there's a new model out saying 40,000 lives could have been saved by mask wearing. what is wrong with them? >> what is wrong with them, nicolle? good question. we're picking up that conversation from where we were the other day. first, i'll say over the course of this pandemic, probably i've had a conversation with a dozen, maybe a dozen, of the governors of the 50 united states. that's a reasonable sample. i've talked to republicans and democrats. all of them across the board have been exasperated by t

the federal government buys all the swabs and tubes immediately. we buy 40% of abbott ids and deliver them to the state, make affirmative actions to nursing homes. that's where 40% to 50% is. everything else is collaborative interaction, part state, part federal. we work together on that. we do not defer everything to the state. if we did, i wouldn't be spending 24/7 with a team of 50 people since march 12th. >> great. thank you so much. my time is expired. yield back. >> thank you. without objection i would like to place two reports into the record. one is from forbes. it's entitled "researchers say protests did not increase covid-19 spread but republicans are still blaming them." this is one report. i have in my hand here, i have a report and study from the national bureau of economics research that was published last month. this study found that there was no connection between black lives matter and protests in recent months and increased spread of the coronavirus. so without objection, i would like to place both of these studies into the record

night's chaos, reiterating they're here to protect federal property ayman? >> erin mclaughlin for us this morning, thank you, erin, stay safe. >>> joining us now is congresswoman suzanne bonamici, democrat from oregon, her district includes portland's western suburbs. thank you for joining us i want to give you a chance to respond both to president trump and the acting chair -- acting secretary of the department of homeland security. here is what president trump said in his tweet, we're trying to help portland, not hurt it. the leadership has for months lost control of the anarchists and the agitators. i'm sure you heard the sound bite of chad woolf saying he doesn't need an invitation to be in portland to do his job. your response to those >> thank you, ayman, for having me on the show and president trump said he's trying to help portland. no, he's not if he were trying to help portland, and oregon, he would have a national strategy for coronavirus. he'd send more testing we'd have more personal protective equipment, he wouldn't be standing in the way of ge

here in oregon are currently in negotiations for federal agents to withdraw from the federal courthouse in exchange for state and local police to come in and protect federal property. now, that is, again, according to a senior administration official. the president a short while ago at the white house was asked about that. this is what he had to say. >> we're not leaving until they have secured their city. we told the governor, we told the mayor, secure your city. if they don't secure their city soon, we have no choice, we're going to have to go in and clean it out. >> reporter: now, we have yet to hear from state or local officials with respect to those ongoing negotiations. but given the president's remarks, it is worth pointing out it is still a tense situation between state and local officials and the federal government. you can see that steel barrier fence that federal officials put up around the court house. the local commissioner, the transportation commissioner, has announced that she will be fining the federal government $500 every 15 minutes that that barrier remains in place.

>> you federal gassteargassed t. the federal agents teargassed a mom. they beat a navy veteran. those were three examples of people not violent. i got shot by a rubber bullet in minneapolis. i never promoted violence in my life. >> there are large amounts of video pointing out the fact the protesters devolved into criminal behavior. $400 million worth of damage in the 20 largest metropolitan areas in just a few days. that's devastating. when the federal government is pumping out trillions of dollars to help americans make ends meet, keep businesses open, you can't allow city streets to devolve into criminality, churches to be burned, federal offices to be burned with employees inside. >> i'll say this to you, hogan. >> that is not what america is. that's not peaceful. >> i'll tell you what. i was there in minneapolis. if you and i will work it out, will you go with me to one of these places where these protest protesters are? i'll go with you. if you commit to go with me, i'll talk to my bosses right. you and i will take a trip. >> absolutely. you and i degree that protesters ar

>> eamon, i think there should be a federal mask requirement. i think we should have done this a long time ago. we have a pandemic that's spinning out of control and we need to protect americans with everything we got. it was good to hear yesterday that three states, minnesota, indiana and ohio have now put forward state requirements, so we have now over 30 states with that sort of standard, but we need all 50 states, we need a national requirement right now if we're going to offer americans maximum protection in this time of crisis. >> dr. koh, if it wasn't bad enough the news that we are hearing, there's a little bit more uncertainty now and stuff to worry about because the fda apparently is recalling hand sanitizers with methanol. can you tell us more about that, tell our viewers go to fda.gov to get the full list which hand sanitizers not to use. what should people be looking out for with the new recall? >> well, we're just hearing about these new reports about toxicity of these hand sanitizers that are coming predominantly from mexican comp

it is certainly the case that federal officers can protect federal land. that's originally what they were doing in portland. protecting the federal courthouse. but now we see mission creep. what we have, ari, is a situation in which president trump and attorney general barr essentially believe they have their own private army of federal armed agents. and they're sending them to cities with democrat mayors who they don't like. this is not going to end well. >> are you concerned that this is a dry run for even more deployments heading into the election in. >> i'm very concerned. apparently so far, they're not consequences. under the law, this isn't what people understand, the people going to the cities being directed are not mill military officers or soldiers. they're this alphabet assume of federal agents. the fbi, the atf, customs, dea, the concern is these are not people trained under local law enforcement. they don't have the skills or the tools to enforce local law. and so what are they doing there? it's political. it has nothing to do with public safet

at the federal courthouse in portland and attacks on federal agents. i think where you might get some productive questioning is to y say, okay, protecting a federal building is certainly legitimate use of federal agents. and then the question becomes what about around the federal building, how far should these agents that are there go? for example, there have been lots of instances where the force that's around the courthouse in portland has pushed out and deployed teargas in the streets of portland. is that a legitimate use? is that part of what they're doing? there might be interesting policy discussions on that. i think in addition to things that you and garrett have been talking about, there may be questions about concern about fraud invote by mail. the attorney general said he's worried about other countries trying to interfere with our election, by introducing fraudulent mail-in ballots into the election system, printing them up and dumping them out. would that really work? some election officials say no, you have to actually look at signatures o

now you've got the federal law enforcement there. who the heck is calling the cops in that situation and how does that make any city safer when nobody wants you there. you are there for a photo op you are not there for safety. >> you make a good point. even the mayor has said this has exacerbated the violence there. sarah, i have to tell you i honestly did think that this is something that president trump is doing to feed his base, to give fox news, you know, footage that they need. you say that it's not that simple, that this is not just about feeding red meat to his base. expand on that for me. >> yeah. i mean, that's obviously a perk. the element of this, but this is happening to real people in real time and the goal is simple. the goal taking away the right to protest. the goal is taking away free speech, freedom of assembly and broadly labeling anybody who critiques or proposes him as a terrorist. these protests are coming hand in hand with an executive order that has an extremely broad definition of terrorism in which they're d

>> what we're hearing from officials local and federal is this is deja vu. we're back to where we were in march when the pandemic just started and we were having trouble scaling up. this is why lawmakers on the hill are so adamant about additional funding in this additional stimulus package for covid-19 testing and contact tracing. there's been talks about 25 extra bill upthat goes into that. there's been pushback from republicans who already think this package is too big and bloated. but these long delays, you know, we've heard a lot anecdotally from family, friends, tweet threads of people dying because of these delays. but what we heard the admiral confirm this weekend is that, you know, there is, in fact, delays, and the federal government has not been able to ramp up to the capacity yet. there's still a shortage of, you know, many different materials to even conduct this testing. we've heard it from, you know, people running the laboratories that there's a shortage of swabs, testing kits, machines to actually process the kits, and, you know, again, admi

so there's a total lack of leadership on the federal level. so you have states doing very different things. and that's why we are not being able to rein in this virus. you look at china, four times as much in population, and they're fairing much better because they have shown the kind of discipline necessary to address this. >> this administration has said over and over they want to see all schools open. we're already seeing some very large school districts in the state of california saying we are not going back to school this fall. betsy devos said kids have to go back to school or they're at risk of losing federal funding. unless the federal government does something significant from an economic perspective to help schools reopen, how can they possibly do it? as it stands right now, 92% of education funding comes at a state level. california cannot afford to reconfigure all of their schools and get kids back there with the government only putting aside $13 billion. it's a $100 billion task. >> so, you know, the federal government spends very

property or federal officers, and in the case where you have someone shooting off a commercial grade firework and then running across the street, we don't believe that extends past our jurisdiction. >> also "the new york times" has filed this tonight the paper says the u.s. ambassador to the uk, robert wood johnson iv, an heir to the johnson & johnson fortune and own heer of the new york jets sd in 2018 that the president had asked me to find out if the british government could help steer the british open golf tournament over to turnberry t on that note and here for our leadoff discussion on a tuesday night, ashley parker, pulitzer prize-winning white house reporter for "the washington post." robert costa, national political reporter also with "the post." also happens to be moderate "washington week" on pbs and a.b. stoddard, a veteran of political journalism good evening and welcome to you all. ashley, i have to say you called it this afternoon in that you predicted a president adhering to script, needing to hit certain marks. he did that before taking questions. it was your paper,

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boost to federal unemployment. the state pays a certain amount, it varies by state, the feds kick in, and has been doing so for several months, $600 a week on top of that. correct me if i'm wrong, you want to keep that going, that $600 a week. there is disagreement on the republican side on what to do, but they say they do not want to continue at $600 a week. their argument here is they cite a study from the university of chicago, they say two-thirds of the people receiving that bonus are now making more than they did before the program began, more than they were making in their jobs. are you open to reducing that at all? >> well, steve, i'm not going to negotiate with you against what has already been passed by the democratic majority in the house two months ago. i do think that fuinding some path forward to we won't fund any extra money at all after what the american people have been relying on, doing it right before this deadline is frankly a failure to lead by republicans. i do think we should find some path fo

they lay a lot of that at the feed of the federal response. even governor abbott who won election in 2018 by wide margins is taking hits from the right and the left. republicans thinking he's going to far on his mask mandate and democrats feeling like he's not going far enough, not taking the reigns or giving it to local officials in the cities that so desperately need help. everyone who is in charge in texas which is republicans at most levels is left holding the bag here and looking pretty bad politically. >> all right, monica alba, garrett haake, thank you for joining us. garrett, special thanks for putting the spotlight of texas for us. thanks for watching this hour of "msnbc live." i'm ayman mohyeldin. afte q when our daughter and her kids moved in with us... kids, bedtime! ...she was worried we wouldn't be able to keep up. course we can. what couldn't keep up was our bargain detergent. turns out it's mostly water, and that doesn't work as well on stains. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. kind of like our quiet time

the federal eviction moratorium, that ends tonight. expect it to set in motion waves of evictions unlike anything we have seen in recent u.s. history. and with no deal on extended unemployment benefits by tomorrow, those payments will be lapsing even if an extension is passed in the coming days. plus, confirmed coronavirus cases now stand at more than 4 million americans with more than 145,000 deaths. multiple states again reporting new single day death records. white house task force coordinator dr. deborah birx saying this about the worsening situation in florida, texas and california. >> well, we have right now are essentially three new yorks with these three major states. >> our team has it covered from all the angles, garrett haake on capitol hill, jo ling kent in los angeles, morgan chesky in dallas and sam brock in miami beach, florida. garrett, i'll begin with you. here we are, we have been talking about this all week, it is friday morning, there is no senate republican bill and senators are headed home for the weekend. bring u

there's state guidelines, federal guidelines. if you're a parent right now within your county, who should you listen to? >> you should listen to the orange county department of education because we have created a plan from a multidisciplinary perspective. we've engaged medical doctors. certainly this is something we have to rely upon, what are the doctors saying in this particular case? we have doctors, educators, community people involved with this, parents involved. leaders in different areas of the school system and we've created a document called oc together, a guide for reopening our schools. it's all done on the internet. it's live. people can access it at any time. it's a very systematic process we're following and a plan we're following that aligns with the california department of public health, california department of education and our own health care agency. >> reporter: what are parents telling you? what are their concerns? >> parents are very frightened. as you mentioned, the hot spots we've seen in santa ana, as th