heire harris also launched a centers for disease control office in vietnam. and the trip went ahead despite concerns about a mysterious illness. the trip was delayed three hours when the u.s. government reported that someone this hanoi was targeted by that mysterious havana syndrome, an ailment that has enfinflicted hundreds over years with migraines, dizziness and memory lapses. but this was a reported case, it was not a confirmed case, the trip went ahead anyway. >> all right. kristie lu stout, thank you so much. >>> a major disaster declaration for humphreys county, tennessee in the wake of saturday's catastrophic flooding. 271 homes were destroyed with hundreds more damaged. >> the death toll revised to 18 with three people still missing. 17-year-old lucy lincoln nor died in the floods leaving behind a devastated family. >> she deserved better.nor died in the floods leaving behind a devastated family. >> she deserved better. she was just a baby. she was the light of my family. she was the glue, our whole lives revolved around her. i think they always will

harry, i'm going to start with you. so, u.s. attorney pak says that he quit because the former president was considering firing him for not getting behind this election-fraud lies. according to "the new york times." it was suspicious, at the time. was that part of the attempted coup? >> i think so. i mean, he was really focused on georgia, at the time. he, in just two days from there, will be calling raffensperger and saying i just need those 1,100 votes. and he was totally apoplectic that his u.s. attorney wouldn't go along with the lie. so even though donoghue, at justice, knew it was a lie. they called pak up and said the president's gonna fire you. and pak thought, i'm gonna resign with dignity. nobody will know about it, then. but now that he's talking to the judiciary committee, they do know exactly why it happened, because the president was fixing to fire him. and why? because he wouldn't support the lie of election fraud in georgia, which he investigated and found no evidence of. >> yeah. we can hear you, very well. we c

not just in harris health system but all the hospitals across the harris county, the state of texas and in this nation and everywhere else. they are truly taking the brunt of this punishment, which unfortunately as we have alluded to at this moment in time is very much preventable. >> yeah. 122 now. so what is -- give us the context. what does that mean for your hospitals, for your staff and how soon will you likely have to use those tents outside of lbj? >> we are going to start using those tents as soon as we can put them up. the context that i'd like to discuss is, yes, the numbers are very high. definitely. we're getting close to the peak of our last surge. what's intriguing about this surge, the point i've been trying to make in the conversations i've had, not so much the magnitude of the numbers, it's the speed by which the numbers are going up. you know, you mentioned at the end of june, lbj hospital had only one patient. my entire system had 11 patients total. right now, 122. it took five weeks to get from that low of 11 to a high of 122 this morning. when i look at the last sur

vice president kamala harris. she and the prime minister held bilateral talks that touched on security, climate, economics, and the coronavirus pandemic. the trip was planned before the current crisis in afghanistan erupted, but the situation there was also discussed. harris is said to meet with american service-members at naval base. our journalist is in singapore joining us live. what is the latest? what is expected to come out of this? >> reporter: well, it's been a warm welcome for vice president kamala harris here, rosemary. there have been fist bumps. there's been an orchid named after her. giving you an idea of the soft side of things like this. it's significant to have the vice president in town. this is a very senior ranking u.s. official to come here. in that sense, it sends a strong message to the renal, not just singapore and that is enduring partnership with the u.s. is very much still on and is here to stay. in fact, during a press conference that followed the talks, the vice president using that wor

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s kamala harris. they discussed the ongoing crisis in afghanistan. harris is set to meet with american service members at a naval base and tour the uss tulsa. manisha is monitoring this. what is expected to come out of the u.s. vice-presidential visit to singapore? >> reporter: it's really the united states's opportunity to say we are your strategic partner and we're not going anywhere. in fact, vice president kamala harris using the word enduring to describe this relationship quite a few times during the press conference that followed the bilateral meeting. the press conference was delayed for quite sometime, i wonder if it's because of the volume of issues on the table. she mentioned the pandemic, climate crisis, all these issues being part of this new era she describes, the issues that nations need to talk about, but she reaffirmed and talked about reenlisting the u.s. commitment in the region. when the journalist, however, started asking questions after the presser, they were mostly interested in afghanistan, and they wanted to draw some opinion

vice president kamala harris. she met privately with the prime minister and joined him at a joint news conference and in the coming hours she will be with the service members at a base. why is this important, this trip? >> it's very important because i mean it comes at a time when really shifting sands in terms of era that we find ourselves in, and kamala harris pointing this out, and saying in this new era, there are things like the pandemic and she said she's calling it a climate crisis given the resent u.n. report. that being the backdrop for some of the talks, they have had a bilateral meeting before the heavily delayed press conference, and enduring over and over again described the u.s.'s commitment to this part of the world and that underlines some of the importance of this, and she said we have an enduring partnership with the region and we're not going anywhere, and she talked about the reinforcement of that commitment and also about values and shared values with countries like singapore, using the words

vice president kamala harris's tour after wrapping up a summit in singapore. she's talking about how to contain china's influence. but afghanistan has threatened to overshadow the biden administration's foreign policy initiatives. and have manisha tang is joinin. kamala harris couldn't avoid the issue of afghanistan. what all did she have to say? >> it was quite interesting because she was part of a press conference yesterday on her first day here in public engagements. and she had to face a lot of questions from journalists. and it seemed clear that they weren't pre-prepared remarks for those. [ today she started a long awaited foreign policy speech about the pacific, but she preceded it by addressing afghanistan understanding that the world is watching the situation there and reiterating the administration's position on focusing on the task at hand and evacuations of refugees. but the big issue on the plate today was south china sea disputes and this is something that she talked about, this is something that lot of academics in the region wanted to hear abou

with me this morning, cnn senior data reporter harry enten. give a lay of the land. >> seven-day average we're up, right? look at that. we're up from the trough that we were let's say in early july. not quite at the high levels that we were at the end of last year, beginning of this year, but still we're clearly up 100,000 new cases on the seven day new average. look at where those cases are, right? where are they greatest, the red. that's bad. the south, arkansas, louisiana, florida, mississippi and alabama. it's not nearly as bad as -- up in the north, but when you look at the community transmission, right, it's very high in the south and coming up to the north it's still not great up here, but it's certainly far better in the northeast where we know that there are those higher vaccination levels than it is in the south where you have the lowest vaccination levels. >> again, as we say this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated right now. i gave people a teaser on just how effective the vaccines are, harry. wildly effective. >> they are wildly ef

let's bring in the whiz, harry en ten. what's the answer? >> yeah, it helps a little bit, certainly the things you do voluntarily the fda approval certainly helps. if you look at the list of the kaiser family foundation asking, the fda giving approval that's a top one. 30% more likely to get the vaccine. that's higher than a chance to win a million dollars, access to a mobile clinic or free child care. that's one of the best things on there. he's the thing about the full fda approval. what it does is gets those people who are thinking about getting the vaccination much more likely to get it. if you wanted to vax as soon as possible, 79% say it's more likely to get the vaccination. 49% say they'll wait and see how it works of the even 30% who said they'd only get it if forced makes them more likely. so it's really about pushing those people over the edge thinking of getting it to actually get the vaccine. >> so you think it takes a carrot and stick. >> that's exactly right. if we were to team this up with a vaccine mandate, what do we do? num

kamala harris cancelled a campaign rally with news of governor newsom this week. concerns aren't just for the democratic candidate. the lapd are investigating against a high profile republican opponent. kyung lah joins us with the latest. so harris was scheduled to campaign with the governor, cancelled after the terror attack. how badly does newsom need a boost from the white house? >> reporter: well, it's a double edged sword here, anderson. the last thing glovovernor news wants now fighting for his job two weeks away is to talk about afghanistan. what he is missing, though, by this cancelled rally is he is missing a chance for an optimistic enthusiastic rally targeting the democratic base here in california. he would be able to stand beside the favorite daughter among the base vice president camkamala ha harris. he doesn't get that because this rally is cancelled and we're not getting any word of whether or not this rally will be rescheduled before the election. >> i know you got early ballot return numbers. what do they show? >> reporter: this is very interesti

. >> harry enten, great to see you. >> nice to see you. >>> "new day" continues right now. ♪ >> welcome to your viewers in the united states and around the world it's wednesday, august 25th. breaking moments ago, we just got an update from the white house that 19,000 people were evacwuated from kabul in the lat 24 hours, including 11,000 evacuated by the u.s. that is a number that matters more than ever because president biden has decided not to extend that august 31st deadline to withdraw u.s. troops from the kabul airport. who is getting out and who is getting left behind and when will these flights evacuating people, not the military, but afghans and americans end? there are no concrete answers. there are no solid numbers for how many americans are still in afghanistan. though we are expecting an announcement today from the secretary of state tony blinken on that. and while the biden administration says more than 82,000 people have been evacuated in the past 11 days, a senior administration official tells cnn that a lot of deserving afghans will be left behind. >>> overnight a source

. >>> vice president kamala harris' trip to vietnam delivered over a suspected case of havana syndrome. let's go "outfront." >>> good evening, everyone. i'm kate bolduan in for erin burnett. breaking news, sticking to his deadline. president biden announcing he will not extend his self-imposed august 31st deadline for all u.s. forces to leave afghanistan. just hours after the taliban said it would no longer allow americas afghans to leave the country and the deadline is a red line. biden tonight rejecting growing calls to extend the deadline siting security concerns. >> every day we're on the ground is another day we know isis k is seeking to target the airport and attack both u.s. and allied forces and innocent civilians. >> but is it a realistic deadline to fulfill the president's promise? the promise that he will evacuate all americans and afghan allies from the country before troops leave? so far, the president has said that more than 70,000 people including americans and afghans have been evacuated since august 14th. that is 15 times what it was the pace, that pace is 15 times wha

let's bring in the whiz, harry enten. what's the answer? >> yeah, it helps a little bit, certainly the things you do voluntarily the fda approval certainly helps. if you look at the list of the kaiser family foundation asking, the fda giving approval that's a top one. 30% more likely to get the vaccine. that's higher than a chance to win a million dollars, access to a mobile clinic or free child care. that's one of the best things on there. he's the thing about the full fda approval. what it does is gets those people who are thinking about getting the vaccination much more likely to get it. if you wanted to vax as soon as possible, 79% say it's more likely to get the vaccination. 49% say they'll wait and see how it works of the even 30% who said they'd only get it if forced makes them more likely. so it's really about pushing those people over the edge thinking of getting it to actually get the vaccine. >> so you think it takes a carrot and stick. >> that's exactly right. if we were to team this up with a vaccine mandate, what do we do? num

so harris was scheduled to -- to campaign with the governor. cancelled after the terror attack. how badly does newsom need a boost from the white house? >> well, it's a double-edged sword here, anderson. because the last thing the california democratic governor wants right now while he is fighting for his job in this recall election that is now about two weeks away is to talk about afghanistan. what he is missing, though, by this cancelled rally is he is missing a chance for an optimistic, enthusiastic rally targeting the democratic base here in california. he would be able to stand beside the favorite daughter among the democratic base here in california, and that's vice president kamala harris. he doesn't get that anymore because this rally has been cancelled and, anderson, we are not getting any word of whether or not this rally will be rescheduled before the election. >> and i know you got some early-ballot return numbers. what do they show? >> you know, this is very interesting and i want to emphasize that one word you just used, early. and the reason why is because we are

cnn senior data reporter harry enten is here now. there's a lot of debate on the issue of masks, especially in schools. is it as divisive as we think? >> i don't think it's as divisive as people think. we see massive support for mask mandates. look at this, a new poll out yesterday showed us 69% of americans said they support mask mandates in their school district. even among republicans it was still up to 44%. and here's the key thing, right? if you look at a state like florida, ron desantis has been threatening to withhold funding from districts. look at that, just 22% support the idea of withholding funding. it has no support, even from republicans it's just 30%. >> and more employers are also requiring vaccines to work. what insights do you have for us there? >> well, this to me is interesting because some of the polling early on suggested that vaccine mandates for employers was not that popular. but in fact what we see is the trend line is going upward. look at this, a poll that was just out yesterday. 55% of employers say that

this is for harry. >> yeah, so thanks for that. you know, i was a u.s. attorney and i got the sack eventually. and really, you know, he's not going to try to challenge it, but theoretically, don, you couldn't fire him because you didn't like his race. and this is protected speech. you say to him because you won't lie about this i'm going to fire you i think it's a technical constitutional violation. but it doesn't really matter. he resigned before it could happen and we know he decided to just act with dignity rather than go along in any way. nevertheless what trump was contemplating i think was probably unconstitutional. >> charlie, if what pack is telling this committee is true do you think this is going to become part of the january 6th investigation? >> well, i certainly hope it does because it really lays down the predicate of what happened. you know, before january 6th when the president insisted on pushing this false narrative. and the fact he'd pressure and try to bully and intimidate department justice officials from jeffrey rosen dale to the se

and in harris county. fortunately at texas children's hospital, we've been anticipating and planning for this surge for weeks and months. and so our team is ready from a bed capacity standpoint and a staffing standpoint. the surge the judge was talking about in dallas, it's really occurring here in houston in harris county and austin as well. and so it's very serious. there's a limited number of icu beds available. we had a few discharges last night. we have a few vacancies in our pedi-icu. it's serious. the story you heard from the judge is true also in austin, san antonio, fortunately we do have some beds. pedi-icu beds at our hospital. >> given the state, they'll fill up quickly. you're urging the fda to approve the vaccine for kids as young as five. why is this such an important step? >> it's really important to get everyone vaccinated ultimately in the united states, and we've been working really hard at getting 12 to 15-year-olds vaccinated and 16 to 18-year-olds vaccinated. we know that the fda will

team or someone else and they're trying to protect harris's team from this? >> we don't know. there are advance teams on the ground before the vice president actually gets there. but the statement we received from the u.s. embassy there did not specify anything really. all they said was they received a report of this anomalous health incident and out of an abundance of caution they delayed the vice president's trip there. >> i know you've been covering this sometime. no definitive answers, but to date when u.s. officials you speak with talk about a most likely culprit, they say? >> they say russia. russia is the most likely culprit at this point. they have been testing these kind of directed energy weapons for years now. they have motive obviously. but the intel community is obviously being very careful and the u.s. government officials are very careful to even call these attacks. they say that right now all signs point to this potentially being russia, but again, they don't know whether this is a weapon or just some kind of collection device that is having a

i've been pouring over the numbers, harry. >> i've been pouring over them. what are you talking about? >> i saw the fact that there were numbers. you know what they mean. let's talk about this. harry enten is here with me. mask requirements, how do parents actually feel? >> they like them. they like them. overall, should require mask wearing at school for unmasked schools and students, 63% support it. 36% don't support it. democrats, like, this is a huge partisan split, 88% support versus republicans just 31%. but still 31% of republicans that's actually a fairly healthy share. >> we talk about the partisan divide in the u.s., 31% among republicans is a higher number that i expected to see there. >> that's right. this is large for republicans but overall the key picture here, 63% of americans overall support it. >> these are the numbers i actually want help understanding. it's a different story when it comes to vaccine requirements, harry? >> yeah, that's right. of course, remember you can't give vaccines yet to those under 12. but if you look here, again, r

harris county, that includes houston, joining the growing list of counties against abbott and a harris county judge tonight has ordered a mask mandate for all county schools and childcare centers. i want to bring in a political voice. beto o'rourke joins us. how do you square governor abbott deploying additional workers to hospitals, which is needed, but at the same time, fighting in courts against a mask mandate? >> it's interesting. he's issued a mandate as the governor of the state of texas, preventing local jurisdictions like school districts or cities or texas counties from issuing their own mandates to protect the public health by requiring masks. what's interesting, also, is that those local jurisdictions in many cases are taking matters into their own hands and have defied the governor. in some cases, getting court injunctions to stay his mandate so that they can require masks. we are seeing the houston independent school district do that. travis county, which is home to austin, texas. dallas county. down in san antonio. so this is the rise of local leadership in the absence of

harry, s.e.c. let's talk about herschel walker, getting in the georgia senate race, herschel walker, the great university of georgia running back. hasn't been a politician now. how will he impact the race? >> i think he's the favorite in gop primaries. chance of winning the implied probability is about 65% if you look at the polling and just speak with people who know that race fairly well a lot of republicans are worried they're not sure he's quite ready for primetime. but we'll have to see if he is because at this point he is the favorite to win. >> one of the things everyone thinks he has a great chance to win the primary but maybe not as great the general election. >> we'll see. >> harry enten, great to see you. >> nice to see you. >>> "new day" continues right now. ♪ >> welcome to your viewers in the united states and around the world it's wednesday, august 25th. breaking moments ago, we just got an update from the white house that 19,000 people were evacwuated from kabul in the lat 24 hours

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-- i don't think they're demonizing the immigrants, i think they're demonizing joe biden and kamala harris for what they see as failure to get the border under control. these ads, i don't know why everybody is so upset about it, there's an element of truth in all of it. i talked to one of the campaigns running the ads and they pointed me to mcallen, texas, there were 1,500 people released in mcallen, texas that tested positive for covid. is that the only thing driving covid in the united states? of course not, that's ridiculous. but it's a fact there are migrants coming across, being released, that do have covid. as ana pointed out, immigration is a hot issue for republicans especially in republican primaries and especially among republican grassroots donors so it's not surprising to me that republican campaigns would take facts that are true and use them in their own campaigns to raise money and gather support. >> as ana pointed out, it's the same -- hang on, ana, i just want to say, it has been a general possible that migrants are tested for covid and given hotel rooms for quarantine if

our wizard of odds is here, harry, to test the theory. let's look at covid hospitalizations age 0 to 17. >> that's an indication of severe illness. on the seven day average of new hospita hospitalizations, up to 182, look at that weekly change, it's up 45%. and what is so unbelievable to me, we're starting to near the peak we saw in early january, when it was 217 on the seven-day average of new hospitalizations. we're seeing that even among the youngest in the population, 0 to 17-year-olds, they're making up a larger share of hospitalizations than they used to. >> two quick pushbacks. it's not as bad as it was in january, and they're lower than everybody else. >> number one, look at the rate of change. who knows where we're going to be next week, with 45% upwards per week. secondly, that may be true, but they're not only nearing where they were at the peak, but in terms of the total hospitalizations, they're making up a larger share. >> where? >> southeast united states. that is where they're making up a larger share. look here. 116 on th

joined now by cnn senior data reporter harry enton. that's a pretty good number. >> it's a really good number. look at this. from the cdc. look at this. okay. not hospitalized from covid if you're fully vax'd, over 163 million have not been hospitalized from covid if you're fully vax'd, did not die from covid. when these stats were taken, do you know how many people were fully vax'd? over 163 million. the percentage of the vaccinated who were not hospitalized because of covid greater than 99.996% did not die from covid. i mean it's crystal clear right here. they clearly work. these numbers clearly show it. >> if you're not vaccinated, harry, your chances aren't nearly as good. >> this is the cdc estimate they put together these different studies. if you're unvaccinated, chance of a symptomatic case is eight times higher than if you were fully vaccinated. hospitalizations, unvaccinated, 25 times higher. chance of death, 25 times higher. if you're unvaccinated you're putting yourself at much greater risk than you would if you were fully

harry is here to break down the numbers. worst means what? how bad? >> it's bad and getting worse. we've seen worse cases than we did a week ago, we see worse hospitalizations than we did a week ago. we see worse deaths than we did a week ago. look at that. nearly 17,000 people in the hospital right now. perhaps the one good piece of news is maybe the great rate on cases and hospitalizations isn't nearly as high as it was but still, we're growing. it's no bueno down in florida. >> they are also a window into the future of everybody going back to school. >> their school situation, again, not particularly good. look at the 15th largest districts, what do we see? new covid cases and schools just started last week. over 3,000 new cases among students, over a thousand among staff, nearly 15,000 in quarantine isolation. and this doesn't include miami dade or broward, the two largest school ducts istricts in that s and they haven't even started yet. this is just a continuation of what we've spoken about previously where we're seeing more and more cases and more and more hospitalizations a

. >>> and kamala harris will be leaving for southeast asia tonight with the administration in desperate need of a foreign m policy win. jasmine wright is live in washington. and the vice president's first foreign trip was a bet of a disaster. now perhaps more on the line.of disaster. now perhaps more on the line. >> reporter: that's right. it turned what was once a low risk trip to the friendly countries of singapore and vietnam into frankly a big challenge for the vice president. because remember, even though, yes, she did go for guatemala and mexico, over a dozen calls with world leaders since her time as vice president, in a time of crisis as this is, she has not been tested on the world stage and this is what this trip presents. so she will are really two big missions when she touches down overseas. first, it will be to deliver a policy win for the biden administration really as the president and the administration itself faces questions of their competence from allies abroad. and second, it will be to really embody that pivot that president biden has been calling for, to focus his

kyung, because of the horrific terrorist attack in kabul, vice president kamala harris had to cancel her plans to attend a campaign rally with embattled democrat governor gavin newsom today. newsom faces this recall vote in just over two weeks. how much of a problem does this create for him? >> reporter: well, the last thing that this governor, california governor gavin newsom, wants us to talk about afghanistan while he is trying to fight for his job. a recall election that is as you point out just two weeks away. what he wanted is an enthusiastic optimistic rally standing beside one of california's favorite daughters among the democratic base, kamala harris. that's an image. he wants to juice the democratic base. it's just something he is not going to get right now because of her duties as vice president. there's concern in democratic circles that democrats just don't care. that they're just not that excited. but i want you to take a look at this data, jake. this is some numbers that we're getting from political data incorporated early data. it is a democratic tracking firm with 13

i heard your conversation with harry about red and blue. and listen. i think, you know, i hope clearer minds prevail, regardless of ideology and political affiliation. but there are, still, groups of people out there who are fighting people to, you know, keep their masks off. # and you saw what happened in los angeles, i'm sure, with people, maskers and anti-maskers. there's only one group who is really fighting against it, actively. other people may be doing it. you know, vaccines, masks, however they feel in their normal lives and the polling works out the way that harry has it. but there's -- there -- there's a group out there, an active group, literally, physically fighting to keep masks off people's faces. >> yes. that's called covidiousy. those are covidiots. i think the mistake is to write off all republicans, as that. i think republican and democrat is done. i think right and left is done. i think the binary system is a disease. and it has to change, in this country. and i believe the new demographic is the vaccinated. they are republican, demo

let's bring in our numbers with harry. harry, first, could you translate the odds for us? it is more than 99.999% if you're vaccinated, those are your chances or surviving any breakthrough infection. >> yeah. i mean, look. we've had over 160 million americans fully vaccinated. of those, just north of 1,000 folks that died. it's so small. and what i'm interested in is comparing the fully vaccinated to those unvaccinated, and what we know is at this particular point if you're unvaccinated, your chance of dying is 25 times higher. higher than if you're vaccinated. so if you have the opportunity right now to go get a vaccine and you haven't gotten one yet, the numbers paint a clear picture. you should do so. >> right. i mean, that data -- the numbers just -- that's so concrete there. what do you know about recent polling? what is it telling us in terms of who is most concerned about the delta variant? >> you know, it should be the unvaccinated. but the polling data suggests it's, in fact, the exact opposite of that. there was an axios poll done toward the middle, end of last m

happening now, vice president kamala harris is in singapore. the first stop on her trip to southeast asia. any moment now, the vice president will speak to troops on board the "u.s.s. tulsa." cnn's ivan watson joining us live. what are you watching for today, ivan? >> reporter: well, you know, it was how the vice president would respond to the questions from journalists about the humiliating collapse of the u.s.-backed government in afghanistan. she refused to go off script. she basically said that the u.s. is single-mindedly focussed on the difficult mission of evacuation right now. take a listen. >> there will be and should be a robust analysis of what has happened. right now there's no question that our focus has to be on evacuating american citizens, afghans who worked with us, and vulnerable afghans, including women and children. >> reporter: and this trip by the vice president to southeast asia, to singapore, she said the latest in a number of top officials from the biden administration to travel to these countries. part of a bigger strat

have friends and colleagues who served in the obama administration, are currently serving in the biden/harris administration who ask how can they support. i have friends from the trump administration who contacted me saying, how can i support? so in the veterans community, this is not a bipartisan issue. we support our afghan partners, our iraqi partners as well and i want to see that carry through. again, my fear is that people will look away, other things will take precedence, and the world will continue to watch. we need to not look away. we need to keep fighting. >> well, lila, that is just what you were doing. thank you so much for talking with us about it this morning. lila koastoni. >> thank you, brianna. >>> president biden expected to speak to the american people just hours from now on the evacuation effort underway in afghanistan. we'll have live coverage ahead on cnn. >>> plus, dr. anthony fauci says we may not be able to return to normal or something like normal until next spring. we'll ask the surgeon general what he thinks next. >>> plus, can nancy pelosi get the votes to keep m

harry, it's great to see you. thank you for all that information. >>> joining us now, the director of the center for vaccine development at the university of maryland school of medicine. doctor, the good news is vaccinations have picked up. more than 700,000 people are getting shots daily over at least the past five days. if we can keep up this pace, when might we hit herd immunity? >> yeah. it's a good question. i'm not sure i can do the math that fast in my head, but it's absolutely terrific news that we are seeing vaccinations pick up again. you know, we did hear some sobering news last week about how contagious this delta variant is. and so really we may have to get vaccination numbers up very high as we do with diseases like chickenpox and measles. and the 90 to 95% coverage range. so we're really pushing for everyone to get vaccinated. >> so you're saying herd immunity is now going to be much tougher to reach? it has to be 90 to 95% of the population vaccinated or immune because they've had maybe a previous

>> reporter: we went along and brought harry hursty, a world renowned cyber and voting machines expert. if you see something in there, if you see some data that does seem legitimate, that does show that there was some sort of fraud, you're ready to invest it, right? >> absolutely. i will follow the evidence wherever the evidence will go. >> this was attacked. the whole technology was attacked. >> reporter: so -- on his website he's claiming without any evidence that it's because of an attack, that his systems have been attacked. >> there's cyberattacks every day, as you can see. >> reporter: and it went downhill from there. lindell ultimately didn't produce the data to prove his claim the election was stolen by china. >> i think the guy makes a wonderful pillow, but i wish some of this information would have been organized a little better. >> reporter: were you given any data at all from the 2020 election? anything useful? anything that would show any sort of fraud? >> we were not given any kind of raw data which would even be able to. >> reporter: if the data is legit, wouldn't be it

ha harry enten the wizard of odds in the covid-command center with some insight. let's start with the divide in this country. it's not red and blue. it's vaccinated and unvaccinated. prove it. >> look. if you look at the trump states, you look at the biden states, that is the adult population because those are the people who can actually vote. look at this. 56% of adults in the states that trump won in 2020 are fully vaccinated. 66% of the adults in the states biden won in 2020 are vaccinated. you look at the different regions. northeast, west, midwest, south. a majority of adults in all of those regions are vaccinated. so you know, oftentimes, we play up the red versus the blue or the south versus the northeast. the actual shifts between those regions are actually, fairly minimal. what we have in each of those regions are people who are fully vaccinated and people who are unvaccinated and that really is the divide in this country, right now. >> telling you, that's going to be the demographic to watch in the midterms and next-presidential election. forget about re

of harris health explained the dire situation there like this. he said that a man went to the emergency room needing an i.c.u. bed. this individual did not have covid, did not have covid. so he had -- he needed an i.c.u. bed. jim and poppy, this man had to wait for 40 hours to get an i.c.u. bed. this man says that the president and c.e.o. of harris health says it is shameful for this to be happening in the state of texas in the united states. i have to mention there is some good news. medical personnel are expected to come into this stated to and in the days to come to help increase those numbers of i.c.u. beds that are already -- that are already here in the state of texas. they just don't have medical personnel to provide the care. jim and poppy? >> wow, rosa flores, 40 hours. thank you for your reporting on the ground there very much. we'll be right back. at philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schmear of cream cheese. you need only the freshest milk and cream. that one! and the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. philadelphia.

the president now and the vice president, there she is, kamala harris, speaking right now. they are going to be involved, the president will sign an act to award congressional gold medals to police officers who responded to the january 6th insurrection. let's listen in. >> we are here today in the rose garden at the white house to recognize that courage. the officers of the united states capitol police and the d.c. metropolitan police risked their own lives to save the lives of others, both on january 6th and on april 2nd. they sacrificed so much to defend our nation, and in securing our capitol they secured our democracy. these officers are heroes. [ applause ] and these officers are patriots. [ applause ] around they deserve today and every day this honor. our nation is grateful for your service. and now there are some officers who, of course, continue to suffer from the injuries seen and unseen. now i want to make it clear that you know that you are not alone and that we all stand with you. the and, of course, there are other officers who tragically lost their lives. the

our wizard of odds is here, harry, to test the theory. let's look at covid hospitalizations age 0 to 17. >> that's an indication of severe illness. on the seven day average of new hospitalizations, up to 182, from july 27. look at that weekly change, it's up 45%. and what is so unbelievable to me, we're starting to near the peak we saw in early january, nationwide when it was 217 on the seven-day average of new hospitalizations. we're seeing that even among the youngest in the population, 0 to 17-year-olds, they're making up a larger share of hospitalizations than they used to. >> two quick pushbacks. it's not as bad as it was in january, and they're lower than everybody else. >> number one, look at the rate of change. who knows where we're going to be next week, with 45% upwards per week. secondly, that may be true, but they're not only nearing where they were at the peak, but in terms of the total hospitalizations, they're making up a larger share. >> where? >> southeast united states. that is where they're making up a larger share. loo

walk us through it, harry. >> yeah. finally good news. i like talking about good news. look here. adults, what you see is that the percentage who say they're not likely to receive a covid-19 vaccine, we're at half the level we were in january. it even drops significantly from mid april. it is look at children. will parents get their kids the vaccines? look at this. my child will definitely not receive a covid-19 vaccine. in early june it was 34%. then 25% in early august. now 19 %. we're seeing a progress on reluctancy slipping away. >> why the change? and is there any indication of what could change more minds? >> i think there are two things going on. number one, when it comes to why we've seen the slippage in the hesitancy, i think fear is a factor. you see do folks see a risk in going back to their normal activities that they saw before the covid-19 pandemic? and look at this. look at this. 60% say there's a larger moderate risk now to going back to the normal precovid life. now it's 30%. looking forward, what might get more people to get the vaccination? number one, that full

cnn data reporter, harry enten. his numbers have sagged a little bit, but not so far. >> yeah, i mean, these numbers are really not that bad in a state like florida. look at this, his job approval, 47%, not exactly great, but last year during election time, look at that, that same 47%. how about the ballot test, should he be reelected in 2022. 48% say yes. that beats the 45% who say no. these are not bad polling numbers for the governor of florida. >> and what's truly interesting is when you ask florida voters about desantis and what he has done on covid, they're not happy. >> no, they're not. i mean, look at this, requirements in florida schools, should everyone wear a mask. 60% of florida voters support this. should teachers get vaccinated. 60% of florida voters support this. you see one thing on covid, the florida voters may not like ron desantis, but in his overall numbers, he's holding steady. >> the covid situation and ron desantis might be decoupled and not correlated. >> that's exactly right. look back at la

harry enten, the wiz, remember what i said. and thank you for what you told us. >> thank you, my friend. and you know what? we just need to get past that divide because, again, we're all americans here. >> the vaccine may be the unifier. >>> florida struggling. record hospitalizations. why? several reasons. but messaging does matter. and the governor there has been baited by president trump and he wants to have the fight. president trump. president biden. trump loved him. and by the way, he's playing from his playbook and it's working for him with popularity, but not for his state with the pandemic. so our next guest is running for ron desantis's job. an interesting question for former florida governor charlie crist. what desantis is doing helps his numbers but is hurting the state's numbers. how do you thread that needle? next. what do we want for dinner? burger... i want a sugar cookie... wait... i want a bucket of chicken... i want... ♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win. ♪ ♪ oh, focacc

senior data reporter harry enton joins us to break down those numbers. this is important here. tell us how popular these boosters are with folks. >> reporter: they're extremely popular. if you look, there was an ipsis poll conducted toward the end of last month, beginning of this month. what did you see? among those who are vaccinated, look how many said they would likely get it. 87% said they would likely get it if public health officials recommended it. what was also interesting is if it was recommended to get it annually like a flu shot again 87% of vaccinated adults said they would. so they're quite popular. to put this into some perspective, we can look at this in real-world numbers. what do we see here? if you were to put this into real world numbers, you would see about 130 million americans who will be eligible and likely to get a booster. about 130 million americans. first is just about 70 million americans, adult americans, who have not even received a single covid vaccine shot. this, to me, puts into perspective how popular these boosters really will be. >> tell us a

however, a portends, as harry was saying, something much more traffic. all driven by the fact that people would not get vaccinated. which so tragic is that it is all preventable. and wearing mask and getting the vaccine cannot only save lives but say livelihoods. so, as all the statistics show, your previous segment about florida and louisiana, the numbers do not lie. hospitalizations do not live. our healthcare providers are so frustrated and they are very angry because they know this is preventable. and it is very unfortunate. >> the vaccination rate in louisiana 38%. dramatically lagging behind the national average. but what else do you think this is going to affect? could football be in jeopardy? >> i think if everything continues the way it is now, which is people not getting the vaccine and more people getting sick, at the end of the day you have to protect life and health and safety. and if that is not getting done, it is going to force decisions people do not want. so as the governor said many times, this is in the people's hands. you are trying

-- i don't think they're demonizing the immigrants, i think they're demonizing joe biden and kamala harris for what they see as failure to get the border under control. these ads, i don't know why everybody is so upset about it, there's an element of truth in all of it. i actually talked to one of the campaigns running the ads and they pointed me to mcallen, texas. last week 7,000 migrants were released in mcallen, texas. 1,500 according to city officials tested positive for covid. so they're not making this up. this is actually happening. now, is that the only thing driving covid in the united states? of course not, that's ridiculous. but it is a fact. just as you said, don, there are migrants coming across being released that do have covid. and as ana pointed out, immigration is a hot issue for republicans, especially in republican primaries, and especially among republican grassroots donors. so it's not surprising to me that republican campaigns would take facts that are true and use them in their own campaigns to raise money and gather support. >> as ana pointed out, it's the same -- h

let's bring in the whiz harry henton. i know the president would like everybody to with hold judgment but that's not how the so steady. it was historically steady in the mid '50s through the first six months of his presidency. the last few months we've seen a decline even before the withdrawal of afghanistan. within the last 20 days, the approval rating in the average drop two points and if you look at individual polls, you'll see a larger drop so there is no question in my mind as we look at the data that the american reaction to this has been negative and it has been hurting biden's approval rating. >> look, first, it was benefitting from low expectations because he was coming off trump. five points isn't that big of a deal but as you say, it had been steady and the question is where does it go from here? how might the crisis in afghanistan affect him in terms of eight, ten months down the road? >> one of the things we have to keep in mind is that the american mind can move on to different issues very, very, very quickl

harry enten is here to break down the numbers. worst means what? how bad? >> i mean, look, it's bad and getting worse. we've seen worse cases than we did a week ago, we see worse hospitalizations than we did a week ago. we see worse deaths than we did a week ago. look at that. nearly 17,000 people in the hospital right now. perhaps the one good piece of news is maybe the growth rate on cases and hospitalizations isn't nearly as high as it was but still, we're growing. so it's no bueno down in florida. >> i'll tell you what scares me is they are also a window into the future of everybody going back to school. >> their school situation, again, not particularly good. look at the 15th largest districts, what do we see? new covid cases. and remember, school just started last week. over 3,000 new cases among students, over a thousand among staff, nearly 15,000 in quarantine isolation. and i should point out this doesn't include miami-dade or broward, the two largest school districts in that state, because they haven't even started school yet. so the numbers are b

. >> joining us now cnn senior data reporter, harry enten. harry, i want to talk to you about the rising number of cases in children. and one of the things we're seeing and dr. ashish jha reported this out is that those cases seem to be rising more in states where there are fewer vaccinated people. yes, most kids under 12, all kids under 12 can't be vaccinated but the fact of the matter is they seem be getting sicker when the grownups aren't vaccinated either. >> so this data is hard to come by, but look, we have massachusetts, the data is earlier than florida. they're comparable. florida we know cases are spiraling out of control. look at this, 378 new cases per week among children, 100,000. so equalize by population. massachusetts cases overall are considerably lower, look at that less than one tenth as many. my goodness gracious. it's clear here that in the worst states when your cases get worst overall, they really do get worse among kids. >> again, this isn't an exact match on date, not an exact match on ages here. but this is a huge --

let's bring in the whiz harry henton. i know the president would like everybody to with hold judgment but that's not how the politics work especially in this environment. it was historically steady in the mid '50s through the first six months of his presidency. the last few months we've seen a decline even before the withdrawal of afghanistan. within the last 20 days, the approval rating in the average drop two points and if you look at individual polls, you'll see a larger drop so there is no question in my mind as we look at the data that the american reaction to this has been negative and it has been hurting biden's approval rating. >> look, first, it was benefitting from low expectations because he was coming off trump. five points isn't that big of a deal but as you say, it had been steady and the question is where does it go from here? how might the crisis in afghanistan affect him in terms of eight, ten months down the road? >> one of the things we have to keep in mind is that the american mind can move on to diffe

harry enten, the wiz, remember what i said. and thank you for what you told us. >> thank you, my friend. and you know what? we just need to get past that divide because, again, we're all americans here. >> the vaccine may be the unifier. >>> florida struggling. record hospitalizations. why? several reasons. but messaging does matter. and the governor there has been baited by president trump and he wants to have the fight. president trump. president biden. trump loved him. and by the way, he's playing from his playbook and it's working for him with popularity, but not for his state with the pandemic. so, our next guest is running for ron desantis's job. an interesting question for former-florida governor, charlie crist. what desantis is doing helps his numbers but is hurting the state's numbers. how do you thread that needle? next. at philadelphia, we know what makes the perfect schmear of cream cheese. you need only the freshest milk and cream. that one! and the world's best, and possibly only, schmelier. philadelphia. schmear