i want to get to kamila bernal with the most important element of this. you're talking to families who may soon lose their homes. what's their response to this current moment in time? >> look, phil, these families are just so worried. and it's because they don't know what's going to happen to them in the next couple of hours. they don't know where their children are going to be sleeping at night. and, of course, it is front and center for them. and as you mentioned, it's not just rent. it's back rent and that's the biggest issue here. what it means is people are either going to have to pay or they're going to be kicked out of their homes. according to the latest census data, about 7.4 million americans are behind on rent. and that was as of july 5th. so at the moment that number could be even higher. and it means that when someone owed $1,000, well, now it's 6,000, $7,000, $8,000 because of the back represent. and a lot of people just don't have that money at the moment. they do not have the cash. census data also showing that about 3.6 million people wer