increasingly there is a demand , at leastea for people who are public figures whether they are influencers or authors there is a demand, there is pressure to endorse a particular narrative. not just be quiet if you do not agree. that is a very, dangerous place for us to be. it is a challenge to publishers for other people in that media to have the courage of their convictions and realize, honestly they might asau will say what they think because they are going to be punished for not agreeing with things they find it reprehensible. >> so margie, why do you think vice president mike pence are senator josh hawley would go to simon and schuster and go through several extra hoops rather than being published? >> of course i do not know in either case specifically. there are two obvious reasons that come toso mind. one is hope they can navigate their way through a very liberal very awoke culture at the big publishing houses they can navigate their way through t and still be able to get their message out. and the other answer is money. unfortunately there are for the biggest celebrity authors the