senator from arkansas was trump before trump. he is an immigration hawk, opposed to unfettered free trade. what he lacks in panache he makes up for indiscipline and strategic planning, but those were not big strong suits for donald trump and did not seem to matter and getting him elected. -- seem to matter in getting him elected. guest: that is a good passage you pulled. presidential candidates can only use what they have. all of them have challenges. all of them have a potential fatal flaw. it's all about timing and who your competition is. i think that donald trump in 2016 against a competent and charismatic democratic nominee, somebody who would not destroy their resume with a problem the way hillary clinton's confidence and strength was shattered by having that secret server in her basement when she was secretary of state, donald trump would have ended up losing that election. for all of his strengths, and he has many political strengths in -- he did not minister win the national popular vote either time and even though that

he of trump he candidates. there influenced by youngkin victory. he is out of the youngkin mold. >> i think it was locked that he didn't have a temper tantrum and insert himself. he tried. they kept saying he was going to have this town hall, invitation only. if a tree falls, did it really happen? >> that's a very interesting point about trump. a number of people have used, isn't odd he hasn't come out and slammed youngkin, particularly when youngkin was denying him publicly. youngkin played the judas role perfectly. he just rolled the sap suckers up into one character. trump was ok with that. i think i know why. for trump, he can suffer those outrageous assault on his person , it begot the wind -- begot the win, in a race like that, and state like virginia, it sets him up perfectly going in. if all the others fall in line, he gets the bragging rights, we sought within hours, taking credit and saying my voters got youngkin across the line. trump was playing a long game, looking into next year, using this virgin

if trump doesn't get in then i think it's going to be a pretty wide-open contest. >> so the trump/no trump question is key here but more important i think this some ways, i'm really curious about the question that was touched on earlier. republican candidates, are we going to see more candidates like youngkin or more like margerie taylor green? >> i think you can say that about political parties in general. are you going to see more leaner candidates, i guess is probably the question and yeah, the answer is, with the amount of money in politics now, fridge candidates always have trouble getting their message out. i think we're going to go through a period of the wings of the party having louder and louder voices. i think there's a huge will here along the question that doug got into and that's biden and that's going to well set that field because there's not a great plan b if he doesn't run. so it's going to be a touch choice for the democratic party to say, you know, we have a president who's mid to sub 40's. high negatives on the economy and inflation and energy and the boarder but

they were not giving the heisman to trump aide -- trump. they didn't have anybody coming in the campaign, this was a virginia -- the term is overused, a virginia first campaign. it was a smart tactic of youngkin to do. it allowed him to disregard all of the other noise that was there and allowed him to remain focused on issues. given that he had the opportunity, as lieutenant governor he is always going to be the governor,. highlighted, he was able to find himself early. not just mcauliffe responding, but without defining him on the air. when your candidate emerged from convention, and you are a new base, -- face, opportunity for your opponent, who probably has more money than you do, which terry did. on the issue biden, i don't think you need to bring up biden. he was brought up enough as it was. when we were were in the dnc together, our magic number for obama was 46. if he was out or below that on election day, we would take back the house. obviously, biden is much lower than that. that is true in virginia, that is true in the country. i

it's as a result of donald trump. democrats and republicans have had debates about voting rights and especially the id piece of it for years. but it was a very different debate than what we are having right now and that's because donald trump was a president who started challenging the boat -- the vote even before any votes were cast in the 2020 election and calling it fraud . and now, you know, 50% of the united states agrees with him that there is incessant voter fraud despite no evidence and republican-led investigations coming up with nothing despite spending millions of dollars trying to find that one fraudulent vote. we have to take a reset which i think it's only possible if donald trump does not run about how we restore the integrity of the elections. let me rephrase that. not the integrity of the elections, the trust in the integrity of the elections, but that cannot happen as long as donald trump is hanging around. >> we are going to move to some questions from the audience. so i was going to bother kiki mcl

honestly, i don't get-- everything is about trump. first of all, made trump in the election, he didn't have to, the press didn't have to mccauliffe made it. and youngkin made it about virginia. >> and mccauliffe made it about obama, abrams, and-- he said parents didn't have a say in education and ignored what parents were going through in his state and young kin said i'm going to make it about that. and people don't want to see national figures coming in, they want to see candidates talking about their issues directly to the voter. >> totally separate topic. >> really, really quick. >> and the supreme court is going to look at the mississippi abortion case, if the supreme court does strike down or radically rewrite roe vs wade, which side, which party does that energize more? >> you guys can write about that, you're the press. i mean, i'm not going to get into hypothetical what the supreme court is going to do. >> paul from the washington examiner. >> chairwoman, i want to ask about your relationship with-- on trump youngkin is the va

senator from arkansas was trump before trump. he is an immigration hawk, opposed to unfettered free trade. what he lacks in panache he makes up for indiscipline and strategic planning, but those were not big strong suits for donald trump and did not seem to matter and getting him elected. -- seem to matter in getting him elected. guest: that is a good passage you pulled. presidential candidates can only use what they have. all of them have challenges. all of them have a potential fatal flaw. it's all about timing and who your competition is. i think that donald trump in 2016 against a competent and charismatic democratic nominee, somebody who would not destroy their resume with a problem the way hillary clinton's confidence and strength was shattered by having that secret server in her basement when she was secretary of state, donald trump would have ended up losing that election. for all of his strengths, and he has many political strengths in -- he did not minister win the national popular vote either time and even though that

that is basically were trump was at this point and were trump ended up in 2018. it looks really dangerous. there are a few differences. this year, compared to previous, at least the last four. redistricting year, which in fort lee for democrats, it is more peril than upside for them. we have different coalitions and voting patterns this election then we have in previous elections. every elector is different every year. so doing sort of a deep dive on that i think will be important in understanding who turns out traditionally and midterm elections, especially now that democrats are doing much better with white college-educated voters who tend to be big -- consistent voters. finally, the trump factor. he was not much of a factor in virginia or new jersey, he was disciplined. that might not be so easy to pull off come 2022. so i will leave it at that and go on to the rest of the panel. >> thank you, that is a great start. up next, chris. he is a senior fellow at the american enterprise institute where he follows voting trends, public opinion and american media. he i

terry mcauliffe ran on "i am against trump." "glenn youngkin is for trump, trump is bad." i think trump is bad, too, but he is not on the ballot. he is not current president. you have to announce something that people actually want to vote for. the second thing is, republicans have three news networks. they are constantly running antidemocratic messaging, constantly. if you look at the results from virginia, people who are pre-basing those news programs are coming out democrats -- coming out against democrats in droves. there is a reason democratic messaging is not getting through. it is because we do not have three news networks always running against republicans like the republicans do. i do not think democrats need to spend more money on messaging. i think they need to start buying news networks. host: matt, all right. steve israel? guest: you raise two excellent points. democrats, particularly into this made election -- midterm election, need to craft a message centered on you are not trump. the american people made a decision in 2020, despite the myth and the big ligh

and in north carolina, a one-point trump state. democrats re-elected the governor in 2020 and republicans re-elected a senator and had plurality with legislative districts in 2020. that's an open seat. that's obviously going to be seriously contested, candidate quality can make a difference there as a defect of a democratic candidate resulted in losing the race. pennsylvania, a one point biden state where republicans just won four partisan, judge races held statewide, that's a possibility and also a seat pat toomey is not running for re-election. you have the possibility of strong candidates for both parties there and obviously up for grabs. and finally the last republican seat in single digit seat in west virginia. that was plus zero points for biden, won by a narrow margin and in fact won by one point in the last six presidential elections. we don't know whether senator ron johnson, an upset winner in 2000 and -- 2016 and 2010 will look increasingly likely. but those are all going to be close races. if the current climate continu

right now trump, according to the real clear politics average, trump and biden have nearly identical favorability ratings, roughly 42.5% positive and 50 %-something negative. that means there is only 15% maximum that don't like either and that is not enough ground for a third-party candidate. you would have to see abandonment by party activists or strong, normal voters who are not activists. it would be somewhere in the 30's where you would have enough of a voter pool that a credible third-party challenge could emerge. right now it is just not there. karlyn: any others? michael? michael: i would say henry's citation of 2016 is on point. you had an opening there. i think also the kind of third-party candidate that might emerge that is likely to get attention, in particular coverage of the press, is one that will go in the quadrant if -- the quadrant, if you can divide the electorate of conservative on economic issues, liberal on cultural issues. if you divide the electorate into four segments, that is the least heavily populated of the four segments. i don't think there is room for a

when i respond to president trump, president trump had several people. we don't know who else was on the call. they spoke into that. everyone's comments. it's out there, you can go ahead and go to the internet and ask to hear the audio. you can hear what was said and come to your own conclusions. host: brad raffensperger is our guest. we open -- we welcome your calls. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. and for independents and all others, (202) 748-8002. if you are a georgia resident, that line is (202) 748-8003. i wanted to read just a bit from that ninth chapter, the call. president trump in that call says we have at least two or three, anywhere from 250,000 to 300,000 ballots that were dropped mysteriously. much of that had to do with fulton county. he also said another tremendous number, we will have an accurate number over the next few days with certified accountants. an accurate number will be given and it is in the 50's of thousands. that is people who went to vote and told they can't vote and told they can't go because

[no audio] trump claims credit. the fact that yungkin kept his difference -- distance from trump didn't stop the former president trump claiming victory . "without due, he would not have been close to winning," trump said in a statement." that is from the hill this morning. now we want to hear your views about the election results of 2021 and we begin with tyrone in new york city. tyrone, you have a new mayor. caller: absolutely. and he won without any real, you know, without any real contestants against him. i don't think that curtis lee had a chance. donald trump says the magda help is what made the virginia race went to let this guy win, but they lost, you know? the magda -- maga agenda lost in the last election but i hope the democratic -- democratic party learns from this. guest: what do you want the democratic party to learn? caller: to fight against each other is a recipe for disaster. we are fighting against each other on this bill back better situation without recognizing that people are infrastructure also

they said that this guy was not trump. karen: you think you will have a set of accomplishments to sell. how will democrats play defense on some issues we saw in virginia? critical race theory has become a code phrase. yes, it is not in the curriculum for third-graders in virginia. but, it struck a resident mcauliffe did not seem to understand. how are you going to defend that? and, immigration, and all of these. we know the playbook. immigration and all of these. we know the playbook. john: we have things we want to do for people and they use which issues. -- wage issues -- wedge issues. they hit us on defund the police, joe biden said i do not believe in defunding the police. are you going to ways -- race taxes -- raise taxes? the problem in virginia, it was at the candidate themselves said i did not think that parents should have a say in what teachers teach. you lost people there. that was a big problem. critical race theory, if you are smart, you do not say, critical race theory is not taught anywhere in public schools

he said if biden would call trump and say, hey trump, give him credit for operation warp speed, give him credit for the fact he had 100 million doses of vaccine when he took office and say, go across the aisle as the previous lady talked about. he should call donald trump and go across the aisle and have both of them appeal to the public that we should all get the vaccines and go forward as a bipartisan. trump was not against the vaccine. blaming republicans for being unvaccinated is unfair. i think another comment would be why are we cutting off restricted travel when we have got an open border with all these people coming through with covid? you know, i don't know. the whole thing approaches my bottom-line advice to joe biden which is look at florida. look across the aisle and look at all the aspects, remdesivir, and also the vaccine. apply all three and that is what florida did. biden talks about reaching across but if he actually did it i think he would come up with a better plan. host: to lori in michigan. democrats align. caller: minnesota. host: minnesota, sorry. mn not mi. go

tim times as many as under trump. -- 10 times as many under trump. enticed to come into the united states illegally. -- enticed to come into the united states illegally. host: the story of the week, virginia electorate sends a message to democratic party. you have failed us with your promises to act. inflation bankrupting america, gas prices are outrageous, the border is in shambles and much, much more. what do you think about the election results of tuesday? were you happy with them? caller: yeah i was happy with them, but i was calling about the top story. you talked about that. newspeople are talking about that. however, the story that i am concerned about is the $450,000 for illegals. i really don't think it has anything to do with the illegals. i really don't. i think these are clever, wicked lawyers using the demonization of donald trump to make money. because first of all, illegals should not have a standing in the court system in the united states, but these good lawyers have found a way to make money. first of all, if they get $450,000 or a

they were afraid of donald trump. after you take on china and put tariffs on their products, do you think mexico believed trump when he said, i will put tariffs on your products? the abraham accords. how did that happen? the arabs saw a donald trump, somebody that understands around. they understand that iran is not their enemy -- israel is not their enemy. the abraham accords are the biggest seachange in politics in my lifetime. we are going to build on it but we need to take the white house back. we will have an opportunity to pick a nominee down the road. we have to win back the house and the senate. if we can take back the house, the white house, in the senate, what could we do for this world? we could have working people, we could turn around bad foreign policy and replace it with strong foreign policy. we could say yet again, israel is the best friend of the united states. jerusalem will always be forever the eternal, undivided capital of two -- the jewish faith. choose wisely. think hard. work like your country

trump and anybody associated with trump seems to be the focus of persecution by prosecution, either in new york or these other states, or by the federal government. we will not continue as a republic -- and by the way, if this continues -- and by the way, when joe biden says he wants unity, i would say to him, call these prosecutors and say, the election is over. call off the dogs. simply do a good job as president -- which, clearly he is not doing -- then let the voters decide what they want going forward. host: let's go to ben, florida on the democrats line. caller: good morning. how are you doing mr. schlapp? guest: how are you? caller: how do you live with yourself after i just listen to you -- you twist everything around. first of all, military. do you think military men should be vaccinated? guest: i think everybody should be -- i'd love to answer your question. i think every teacher and every american and every cop and person in the military should make their own health care choices. caller: in the military? guest: yes. caller: do you understand military got certain protocols? g

when i respond to president trump, president trump had several people. we don't know who else was on the call. they spoke into that. everyone's comments. it's out there, you can go ahead and go to the internet and ask to hear the audio. you can hear what was said and come to your own conclusions. host: brad raffensperger is our guest. we open -- we welcome your calls. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. and for independents and all others, (202) 748-8002. if you are a georgia resident, that line is (202) 748-8003. i wanted to read just a bit from that ninth chapter, the call. president trump in that call says we have at least two or three, anywhere from 250,000 to 300,000 ballots that were dropped mysteriously. much of that had to do with fulton county. he also said another tremendous number, we will have an accurate number over the next few days with certified accountants. an accurate number will be given and it is in the 50's of thousands. that is people who went to vote and told they can't vote and told they can't go because

people point fingers at trump, the fact is more people are dead under biden then trump. host: this from the washington times. merriam-webster selected vaccine as 2021's word of the year. an expanded definition to reflect the times. merriam-webster has declared an unpleasant truth as its 2021 word of the year, vaccine. this was extremely high on our data. merriam-webster's editor at large. lawrence on the democrats line, go ahead with your comments. caller: i have an idea that is a republican idea. in many red states the republican party has where women go in for abortions, they have to sit down and hear about the disease, sometimes they get insertions and sometimes they have to have a 24 hour cooldown period.i think for vaccines to get jabs in people's arms there should be a policy around having folks come in to see a doctor have to sit down, that half the year but the science of the vaccine, see photographs of folks in the emergency rooms intubated, maybe even dead. if we do that kind of policy, not a mandate. the people will start to catch on and we will see vaccinatio

the trump administration, gas prices were lower. we had less imports from folks like russia on the oil side of things. our economy was in a much healthier place. what is going to happen if we continue this type of spending, it will be devastating to the economy. host: nancy mace is our guest. we will get to your calls right now. we will put the numbers on the screen divided by political affiliation. you can dial in and we will get to those right away. a little bit about representative mace, she is the first woman to graduate from the citadel military college in south carolina magna cum laude. she is a member of transportation and infrastructure committee and represents the charleston and hilton head island areas of that state. let's take you calls -- your calls. one week in arlington -- malik in arlington, texas. caller: i would like to say that the republican is nothing more than a fascist movement. they are comprised of people after the end of the civil war. the only use democracy as an oppressive measure against ethnic minorities

i think trump's motivation -- i don't think of trump as a democrat or republican or even partisan. i see him as an opportunist. i don't think he has closely held beliefs. people who support him say they support him because of his position on reproductive rights. he was uber pro-choice before he ran on the republican ticket. he is a chameleon who will change his spots. where i think trump was dangerous is he gave the various dangerous elements, whether it was 3%ers, the proud boys, these right-wing militia groups, he gave them permission. when he said standby, standdown and standby, that was a dog whistle. host: those militia groups, do you see evidence of those being active in your state in north dakota? guest: you know, we have a history, klan history. during the early 1980's we had probably one of the highest profile kinds of events. we always had a more militant underbelly but i don't really see those groups in north dakota the way you would see them gathering in places like charlottesville. we are fortunate there. we are pretty peaceful group up here. so i don't see them gather

when i respond to president trump, president trump had several people. we don't know who else was on the call. they spoke into that. everyone's comments. it's out there, you can go ahead and go to the internet and ask to hear the audio. you can hear what was said and come to your own conclusions. host: brad raffensperger is our guest. we open -- we welcome your calls. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. and for independents and all others, (202) 748-8002. if you are a georgia resident, that line is (202) 748-8003. i wanted to read just a bit from that ninth chapter, the call. president trump in that call says we have at least two or three, anywhere from 250,000 to 300,000 ballots that were dropped mysteriously. much of that had to do with fulton county. he also said another tremendous number, we will have an accurate number over the next few days with certified accountants. an accurate number will be given and it is in the 50's of thousands. that is people who went to vote and told they can't vote and told they can't go because

of everything trump has done. secondly, no. i find it amazing how, when trump shut the border for the same reason, he was xenophobic and a racist. biden does the same thing and gets credit. as for me ever getting the vaccine, i do not trust it. there is something about the way they are pushing it. more people who have been vaccinated are put -- passing on the virus versus the ones who are not vaccinated. when trump was the one who came out with the vaccine, everybody on the left did not trust it. it is the exact same vaccine that trump put out that biden is now pushing. i do not understand the insidious and us behind the vaccine. i think it is all about control. i do not think it is about the vaccine. how many shots do you have to get before it works? host: janice in california. more of your calls and comments on this topic in a moment. we are joined next by christina marcos, congressional reporter on the hill. the house and senate return. good morning to you. it is not a surprise they have wound up in this positi

she had appeared on trumps reality television show. has secured the right to speak freely about her experience. ms. servo's --zervos stands by her allegations and her claims. let's go to the line and talk to susan who was calling from ohio on the independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. actually, i wanted to make a comment about the prescription drug prices. i wasn't able to get through earlier. i worked at hospital. i'm a case manager. and my job is to call and price patients medications before they are disc -- discharged home -- an ideal in the cardiac unit. blood pumps and the premier treatment for those and what i call the pharmacies for the patient on their behalf, if they have medicare the price per month would be anywhere from $450 to $600 a month. if the patient has medicaid or managed medicaid, the most that they can pay for any drug or prescription is three dollars. most cases, they have no charge at all. in other words, they get there medic and this medicines for free. the patients that are on medicare, good cit

>> trump is not invited. trump is not invited. trump is not invited. host: will you vote to reelect your member of congress? bob in plymouth, indiana, republican. go ahead. caller: i will vote for my republican representative. i feel the democratic party is really not for the poor. they are going to have to crush programs for people, transportation more expensive, at times i think they say they are for the poor but the policies they do is against the poor. the other one is the border. tried to become a citizen of canada or mexico and see how easy it is. i knew an individual from poland trying to become a citizen and he had many hurdles to climb. i think we should make that process easier like controlling what is into our country so we can have the resources to take care of the people who are citizens of our country. host: you are in the second district is that correct? caller: yeah. host: do you know who represents you in the house? caller: i do. my mind is going blank. host: jackie walorski. caller: i feel she is willing to work bipartisan. i remember

guest: they are very strong trump supporters. on social issues in particular, especially on immigration, very conservative. they are very anti-immigration. on economic attitudes, they diverge from a lot of republican party positions. they are highly critical of u.s. corporations. a majority say that tax rates on high-end, should be raised. they are in favor of raising taxes on corporations. they are cynical about the fairness of the economic system. in that regard, they are closer to democrats than other republicans. on most issues, they do to the party line. on economic policy, that's where they are different. host: the ambivalent right, who are they? guest: they are also very interesting. they are the youngest group in the republican coalition. they hold more mixed views, especially they are more supportive of legal abortion, legalizing marijuana than some of the other republican groups. they are not quite as hard-core conservative as some of the other groups. most of them voted for donald trump. this is a group that is mixed p

even if they don't disavow trump. the caller mentioned liz cheney from wyoming. there are 10 republicans who voted for impeachment back in january. i would be surprised if more than three of them are back in congress in 2023. the reason, like liz cheney, and tom rice in south carolina, peter meijer in michigan could be quite vulnerable this their primaries. we have seen adam kinzinger in illinois, anthony gonzalez in ohio retire. we could see fred upton in michigan join that list. just about the only members in that bucket who have a chance of winning re-election are those who come from states with open or top two primaries where they can depend on some democratic votes to carry them through both the primary and the general election. people like dan new house from washington or jamie herrera beutler from washington, or david valadao from california. then there is the question of the 13 republicans who voted for the infrastructure bill. some of them are retiring. so have little to lose. about half of them came from new

under the trump-pence administration, if the world nothing else, the world this, america stands with israel. [applause] the trump-pence administration assured that israel would always have the resources to be able to defend herself by herself and i am proud to report that under our administration, american support for israel was greater than before. i know you've already heard at this conference but it airs reciting, with your support, our administration is able to take historic steps to strengthen the ties between the american people and the jewish state of israel. we acknowledged israel's solemn -- over the golan heights. we pulled the united states out of the u.n. human rights council for its blatant anti-israel bias and shut down of the plo office in washington, d.c.. we signed the strongest executive order ever written to fight anti-semitism, and maybe most important of all, we withdrew from the iran nuclear deal, we confronted iran's maligned have your, we vigorously enforced sanctions to bring iran's oil exports to zero. [applause] on the day we left office, the iranian regime