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bjp rock confirmed that story, reportedly, in closed-door testimony, to this's -- in august. now, there is something even fishy are going down, in georgia, on january 4th. all on the same day. we did not know about the time, and we didn't find it bowed about it and so just a few weeks. go on january 4th, an emissary from the trump campaign a -- georgia woman who works in the fulton county election office, who had become the target of a slew, an avalanche of false argue is a shuns of fraud. in fact, donald trump brought up her name, no listen 18 times during his phone call to brad raffensperger, we're offering to her as a professional vote scammer. a hustler, known political operative, who stuff the ballot boxes. on the fourth, that campaign emissary who was the one time -- showed up freeman's home, and threatened her. she said, according to freeman, their freeman confessed to trump's voter fraud allegations, where people would come to your home in 48 hours, and she will go to jail. this was all part of the coordinated campaign to keep president trump in power, against the wil

much more similar like the bjp in india, the party in hungary that donald trump just endorsed in the upcoming elections. and, akp a turkey. it's behaving much more like authoritarian -- are very interesting, because it's very timed. support of the economic policies, promoting racial inclusivity and democratic parties, and i say timely because it assumes that this is what the biden administration was trying to do with both the build back better and voting rights. as we see, they have both stalled in congress. is it your opinion that we can overcome that? >> yes, i think the biden administration has a plan by addressing the material conditions of americans. it will improve americans lives. it will take away some of the anger out of american politics. they have been quite successful in their first year of the build back better plan, that was plan a. plan b is to address these voting concerns. it doesn't matter how much you -- increasingly we've season since the january rejection of the election results, when republicans broke the rules at the state level, it doesn't matter. it is much m

much more similar to parties like the bjp in india, the party in hungary that donald trump just endorsed in the upcoming elections and the akp in turkey. so it's behaving as a much more authoritarian party so the problem is much more widespread than it was in 2018. >> two of the things that you say can help avert a democratic collapse what i think are very interesting because it's so timely are supporting broadly popular bread and butter economic policies and at the same time promoting racial inclusivity and democratic participation. i say it's timely because it seems like this is exactly what the biden administration was trying to do both with build back better and voting rights. but as we see, they both have stalled in congress. so is there a way in your opinion that we can overcome that? >> yeah, i think the biden administration had the plan that by addressing the material conditions of americans, this would improve people's lives and take some of the anger and the rage that has permeated american politics out of american politics. we have to give the biden administration credit. they