alone against donald trump on the day after donald trump's inauguration. the largest protest in washington, d. c. history was a protest against donald trump. on that same day throughout the united states, the day after donald trump's inauguration and throughout the world, the largest mass protest in the history of the human race occurred against donald trump. in every american city that had a protest against donald trump on that day after his inauguration, it was the largest protest in history of that city. they will not be coming out into the streets for donald trump if he is indicted. there is a loaded phrase in the affidavit that an fbi agent submitted to a judge in florida to obtain a search warrant for donald trump's home. it's a phrase that could explain what lindsey graham is really personally worried about when he talks about, perhaps hopes for rioting in the streets. and that phrase is, criminal confederates. on page 30 of the affidavit, the fbi agent writes i believe that sealing this document is necessary because the items in and information to

on donald trump's home. donald trump measures his very self worth by the size of his crowds. he has to be crossed by the zero turnout by the effect of the of a crowd in support of him. that is not a crowd that those tv cameras are aiming at down at mar-a-lago. there is plenty of room in between each one of those individuals who has traveled apparently a very short distance to be there. no crowd at all, zero crowd, nowhere in america is there a crowd today or tonight for donald trump. donald trump appears to have the support of the leader of the republicans for the house of representatives kevin mccarthy, but that is obviously just political posturing. that when quoted by the news media, he simply turns the news media into a conduit of republican lies. but those republicans, those republican officeholders do enjoy talking on tv about their support for donald trump. donald trump is probably -- can't prove, this there is no journalistic proof of -- this but he's probably as terrified tonight as anyone else who

trump when everybody in your newsroom wants donald trump to be defeated and then donald trump is defeated. the elections over joe biden is the declared winner and church bells go off and fireworks go off. you just assume everybody around the world is just like me. they're all celebrating when it had absolutely zero to do with our election yet. somehow these three news outlets put it on the air as a reaction to our election. this is the deception that i see that reporters subjected themselves to an effort to get trump where they allowed them to put their guard down and put anti-trump information on the air time and time and time again, it wasn't that they were wrong. it was that they were out to get trump and put things on the air that they didn't check. so we've been talking a little bit about the past in terms of the fact that you were the press secretary for george w bush. now you sound as if you are supportive of donald trump, is that right? is that a correct assumption? i'm supportive of accurate journalism, and that's why i wrote my book. i haven't made my mind up yet about donald tr

the client being donald trump. that is exactly what happened in the paul manafort case, where he told his lawyers to say something and made representations about what they should convey to the department of justice. and we got a court order from the chief judge in d. c. saying that that lawyer, there is no attorney client privilege there. the lawyer can reveal exactly who they learned the information from. and paul manafort was charged with lying to the government because he caused though statements to be made. exactly the same play can be made and the case law is very strong on that issue. and look, the lawyers have to make a choice. is it them or is that the client? i would actually suspect that it is the client. i think the lawyers would be incredibly foolhardy to sign something that they knew was false. >> bradley moss, it seems the client, donald trump, has a choice to make as of right now. these two can no longer up his lawyers, even for his own self protection. they're heading down a road where one way or an

donald trump knows what is coming better than any of us do. donald trump knows what he did. donald trump knows what he did when he was trying to overturn the presidential election in georgia, you knows what he did leading up to entering the january 6th attack on the capitol. he knows what he did a mean he decided to steal government documents and bring them home. donald trump knows when he decided to legally possess those documents for a year and a half. donald trump knows who made the decision to do that. he did. donald trump also knows that he now has terrible lawyers defending him. really, in effect, no one defending him no. donald trump knows as of today, his last white house chief of staff, mark meadows, is being subpoenaed to testify about him to fani willis is grand jury in atlanta. notice that donald trump is not making any public comments now, warning mark meadows and his former election lawyer, sydney powell, who has also been subpoenaed to that same grand jury in georgia. no warnings from donald trump about flipping. notice that donald trump, he's not wanting any

that was donald trump. donald trump doesn't want you to see the search warrant. we learned today from the attorney general that donald trump has a copy of the search warrant himself, in addition to a copy of the inventory that the fbi took from his home. and donald trump is not showing that to us because he does not want us to see it. he doesn't want anyone to see it. the republican senators who were tricked into demanding that merrick garland release the search warrant, all rose and a standing ovation for merrick garland led by senator raphael cruz, and thanked him for doing exactly what they demanded that he do. now, that's not them. of course they didn't do that. none of those republican senators not one of them, meant a single word that they said. about the search warrant. the magistrate judge in the case gave donald trump 24 hours to make up his mind about whether he wants to oppose the motion. to release the search warrant. donald trump's lawyers haven't until 3 pm tomorrow to tell the justice department if donald trump opposes release of the search warrant

donald trump's of the most. donald trump does it more andbu louder than anybody else. might look as an example of the democrats numerous democrats because of how close ohio was in 2004 that they stole the election in ohio when i cite cases where c democrats said the machines were painted and wisconsin the 2024 election. there cases where hillary clinton questions the popular vote in the state because it didn't match the exit polls and she allege something hadti to happen to turn the election away from john kerry in 2004. case after case democrat after democrat at jeff king and they were sitting donald trump was not the legitimate winner.r. that happened in 2016 because they said members of the pro college data classified briefing to find out what happened when trunk lid with russia but they didn't -- he didn't call it with russia but they said he did. >> host: as i'm listening to and thinking what a difference between people having al gore stepped aside. he didn't exercise his influence as vice president to try to undo the election results and clearly there was no atta

from donald trump. on tuesday rudy giuliani's lawyers demanded to know whether he is a criminal target of the fulton county grand jury investigation of election fraud in georgia. and on tuesday the house ways and means committee when it's case in a federal court of appeals to obtain donald trump's tax returns. on wednesday donald trump took the fifth amendment 440 times in under of questioning in an investigation by new york state attorney general. and also that day too much of the news media fell for donald trump's false framing that the search warrant story would somehow be good for him politically. on thursday a crazed trump supporter who is at the capital capitol on january 6th decided it was time to go to war against the fbi after hearing so much republican condemnation of the fbi this week including from donald trump. that trump supporter fired a male gun at an fbi field office in cincinnati injuring no one. then led police on a car chase that turned into a six hour standoff at the end of which th

and donald trump said no. and i feel like a typical republican politician would have thought about that offer. even offer room for negotiating. he completely took it off the table, even though it would've satisfied one of his top campaign promises. so i think that somebody like rob desantis would be more effectively able to work in this system, but he is more trump-y in terms of what he believes ideologically. he is very similar to donald trump. martin: thank you for your great analysis. thank you so much for your insights. and thanks to the viewers for good questions. and i wish you a good day, and i hope to talk to you again sometime in the near future, when we maybe have seen the results of the elections inhost of this event.

on donald trump's home. donald trump measures his very self worth by the size of his crowds. he has to be crossed by the zero turnout by the effect of the of a crowd in support of him. that is not a crowd that those tv cameras are aiming at down at mar-a-lago. there is plenty of room in between each one of those individuals who has traveled apparently a very short distance to be there. no crowd at all, zero crowd, nowhere in america is there a crowd today or tonight for donald trump. donald trump appears to have the support of the leader of the republicans for the house of representatives kevin mccarthy, but that is obviously just political posturing. when quoted by the news media, he simply turns the news media into conduit of republican lies. but those republicans, those republican officeholders do enjoy talking on tv about their support for donald trump. donald trump is probably -- can't prove, this is no journalistic proof of -- this but he's probably as terrified tonight as anyone else who home has ever

from donald trump after january 6th than he ultimately did, and when you basically empower donald trump to be the leader of the party, which he and many of his allies in congress and the senate did, you allow donald trump to have outside sway of picking the dr. ozs, the j.d. vances and the herschel walkers of the world, which you're just stuck with. >> it's not just how the primaries have gone, it's the people who haven't gotten into the primaries knowing what those primary voters who are listening to donald trump would do. there was no way larry hogan was going to win a republican primary in maryland. no way sununu would have won a republican primary in new hampshire. >> although we did see brian kemp -- >> that's the one example. georgia. georgia. >> georgia, that's right. there are obviously specific factors, the state's republicans having seen donald trump tank the entire ticket up and down in january of 2021, that may have been a wake-up call to a lot of republican voters that they don't want him selecting the candidate. >> democrats still have to deal with something the unpopulari

from donald trump. on tuesday rudy giuliani's lawyers demanded to know whether he is a criminal target of the fulton county grand jury investigation of election fraud in georgia. and on tuesday the house ways and means committee when it's case in a federal court of appeals to obtain donald trump's tax returns. on wednesday donald trump took the fifth amendment 440 times in under of questioning in an investigation by new york state attorney general. and also that day too much of the news media fell for donald trump's false framing that the search warrant story would somehow be good for him politically. on thursday a crazed trump supporter who is at the capital capitol on january 6th decided it was time to go to war against the fbi after hearing so much republican condemnation of the fbi this week including from donald trump. that trump supporter fired a nail gun at an fbi field office in cincinnati injuring no one. then led police on a car chase that turned into a six hour standoff at the end of which th

that is what donald trump's former national security adviser, john bolton, said about donald trump's claim, that he had a standing order that any classified documents, that he took from the oval office, to anywhere else in the residence in the white house, automatically became declassified. john bolton told the new york times, he had never heard of the standing order that mr. trump's office claimed to have in place. it is, he said, almost certainly, a lie. joining us now is glenn gerstell, former general counsel for the national security agency serving the obama administration, and the trump administration. thank you very much for joining us tonight. let me begin by saying, i don't know anything about classification law. and i'm not sure how much of it, as regards the president, is actually written in federal statute, and how much of it is tradition, how much of it is a set of assumptions and rules? we are discovering so many other areas of government, that what we thought was rock solid turns out to be, to a great extent, gentleman's agreements, and things that are not written in la

i joining us now is mary trump the niece of donald trump. she's the host of a podcast, the mary trump show and author of the reckoning our nation's trauma in and finding the way to heal. mary, the lie about the even broke into my safe with the exclamation point. for me, that is the element in the donald trump statement that says the most. he seems shocked by that. this is inconceivable to him. although this kind of thing couldn't have happened without his lawyers having plenty of hints that this thing was going to come if you continue to resist this investigation or not cooperate in whatever way he was not cooperating. >> sure, and i agree lawrence that was the tell right there that even though of course, donald was informed ahead of time. and first of all i just want to say if the fbi has a search warrant they're not really breaking, and they're just doing their job and getting the information they're entitled to because it's been withheld from them. this is just a another example in a very long line of examples of donald's narcissism and s

for donald trump. he didn't sound like someone ready to take any legal risks for donald trump. not anymore. not now that he has been formally declared a target of the grand jury's criminal investigation of exactly what rudy giuliani did for donald trump in georgia. the rudy giuliani you are about to see is truly shocking now. but it is the way rudy giuliani often handled press questions when he was a federal prosecutor in manhattan in the 1980s. today, with rudy giuliani clinging to the wreckage of his legal career with his law license suspended, pending possible permanent disbarment, rudy giuliani found his lawyerly voice once again. >> [inaudible] >> we'll not talk about this, until the grand jury, and the grand jury's [inaudible] secret. >> do you believe president trump is the ultimate target of this investigation? >> i'm not going to comment on the grand jury investigation. [inaudible] no more about it. >> -- >> they asked the questions [inaudible] >> will you be cooperative? you are attorney says

the fear of donald trump, the fear of what donald trump could reveal about him. lindsey graham knows that donald trump is a pathological liar, so donald trump knows it lindsey graham knows that donald trump could say something about them that is false. or say something about lindsey graham that donald trump couldn't prove. that conscious question, what are you going to tell your children or grandchildren to stop donald trump does not apply to lindsey graham. i'm like strom thurman, lindsey graham does not have children and is not suspected of having children that we don't know about. never been married, doesn't even have a dog. he has by outward appearance no one and nothing to love more than the title of senator. and that probably explains lindsey graham probably as well as anything can. he will do anything and say anything to hold on to the title of senator, a title he knows donald trump could rip away from him by endorsing another republican to run against lindsey graham and south carolina. if that is the explanation of senator lindsey graham, think of the hol

but donald trump says, hey, i want a special master. our own chuck rosenberg has said that he thinks that maybe he will be granted that request. barbara, what do you think of that? and if he is, does that mean this whole thing, this whole sifting through of the documents that they have recovered from mar-a-lago starts all over again? >> yeah, i'm going to disagree with chuck, which is a rarity. he's usually very wise on these things. he may be right in the end, but special master is not unheard of in a search scenario. it usually comes into play when it is a lawyer's office that has been searched. and that's because the lawyer likely possesses documents per training to many different clients, whose communications would be privileged. and so, it sometimes is prudent to have an independent filter, as opposed to some other fbi agents who are unrelated to the case do that initial filter and say, we're going to segregate these privilege materials, and then we're going to share the rest with the negligentive team. heres with it isn't even att

has ever happened in donald trump's life if donald trump had never been president. donald trump's accountant, allen weisselberg, the man who and all all of the money going into end going out of donald trump's accounts pled guilty for 15 felonies involving that money. 15 financial crimes. all of those crimes were committed to benefit donald trump in some way. some indirect ways. nothing as bad as that has happened in donald trump's business life, including donald trump's multiple business bankruptcies. it obviously brings donald trump much closer to facing criminal charges for many of the same financial crimes. but donald trump's legal life is so bad now that that is not our lead story tonight. we will cover the weisselberg guilty plea and what it means for donald trump in our next segment. but we begin tonight with an even more important story of the federal criminal charges that donald trump could face under the espionage act. today, a florida federal judge magistrate held a hearing on motions by some of these news organizations including according to the new york

with donald trump. he's now the host of the "mea culpa podcast." michael, great to have you here in the studio. >> good to see you, alisyn. >> is this the closest that donald trump has come to being in real legal trouble? >> it's certainly the closest i've seen him come. as you know, donald trump has been like the teflon don. it appears now things have changed. you know, one of the things that donald has been so cautious about his entire life, took the suggestions of roy cohen, never have your fingerprints on anything, which is why he never had an email address, never texted, very little in writing. but he give that's going on now, especially when you're with government, everything is documented. and so -- including like the conversation with brad raffensperger and the conversation he had with me about making a payment. that one if you see was for karen mcdougal. we're in a situation now where the documentary evidence and the recordings and all the information really appear to be closing in on him. >> l

alone against donald trump on the day after donald trump's inauguration. the largest protest in washington, d.c. history was a protest against donald trump. on that same day throughout the united states, the day after donald trump's inauguration and threw out the world, the largest mass protest in the history of the human race occurred against donald trump. in every american city that had a protest against donald trump on that day after his inauguration, it was the largest protest in history of that city. they will not be coming out into the streets for donald trump if he is indicted. there is a loaded phrase in the affidavit an fbi agents admitted to adjudge in florida to obtain a search warrant for donald trump's home. it's a phrase that could explain what lindsey graham is really personally worried about when he talks about, perhaps hopes for rioting in the streets. and that phrases, criminal confederates. on page 30 of the affidavit, the fbi agent writes i believe that sealing this document is necessary because the items in information to be seized irr

has happened in donald trump's life if donald trump had never been president. donald trump's accountant, alex weisselberg, the man who handled the money going in and going out of donald trump's counts pled guilty today for 15 felonies involving that money. 15 financial crimes. all of those crimes were committed to benefit donald trump in some way. some indirect ways. nothing as bad as that has happened in donald trump's business life, including donald trump's multiple business bankruptcies. it obviously brings donald trump much closer to facing criminal charges for many of the same financial crimes. but donald trump's legal life is so bad now that that is not our lead story tonight. we will cover the weisselberg guilty plea and what it means for donald trump in our next segment. but we begin tonight with an even more important story of the federal criminal charges that donald trump could face under the espionage act. today, a florida federal judge magistrate held a hearing on motions by some of these organizations including according to the new york times and n

and donald trump said no. and i feel like a typical republican politician would have thought about that offer. even offer room for negotiating. he completely took it off the table, even though it would've satisfied one of his top campaign promises. so i think that somebody like rob desantis would be more effectively able to work in this system, but he is more trump-y in terms of what he believes ideologically. he is very similar to donald trump. martin: thank you for your great analysis. thank you so much for your insights. and thanks to the viewers for good questions. and i wish you a good day, and i hope to talk to you again sometime in the near future, when we maybe have seen the results of the elections in november. goodbye. andrew: thank you. announcer: over the past few months, the january 6 committee has conducted a series of hearings, revealing the findings from its investigation. watch c-span as we look back at the committee's hearings, featuring previously undisclosed evidence, depositions and witnes

and then, one year after donald trump left office, and after donald trump personally went through all those boxes at the end of 2021, 15 boxes of documents were returned to the national archives from donald trump's florida home, and still, still donald trump was illegally keeping more classified government records and other government records in his home. and so, the national archives got the justice department involved and federal prosecutors working with fbi agents issued a subpoena for all the rest of the records that could be remaining at donald trump's home and in early june, federal prosecutors and fbi agents, visited donald trump's home in a scheduled visit with donald trump's lawyers, where donald trump's lawyers handed over even more documents to return to the archives. and then, one of the trump lawyers, christina bobb actually signed a written statement saying, that's a, that's all the right material we have here. signed her name to that. no more government records, no more classified material left in the home after that day in june. federal investigators became convinced v

against donald trump? the trump organization for most of its existence was donald trump and a couple of people rung around doing his bidding? >> so first of all, john, it seems like everyone within 100-mile radius of donald trump is either under criminal investigation or going to prison at this points. so weisselberg has pled as part of this complex deal to that five-month prison sentence and $2 million fine and there's a separate trial in october on the very same charges against the trump organization and not donald trump himself and the contours of this deal are weisselberg saying 15 different felonies, but i don't want you to reduce my sentence for any testimony that we'll give specifically to donald trump, no deal. that looks weird, but that's actually the kind of deal and the kind of tightrope that people walk in mob situations because they don't want to face reprisal from the boss, but they also have to cut some sort of deal for themselves. the problem here as you're saying that trial in ukta october

i really don't think donald trump change the party i, think donald trump revealed the party. i don't think people abandon deeply held beliefs in in years, if you muffle lands and i'll change my opinion. that didn't happen with donald trump. you look at these people and they care about nothing but power. the language here is just so striking. they have adopted the language -- to weather underground like a nautical cartel. it's about wearing iron, and flipping, in who's a, rotten attacking the fbi. it's not a governing party anymore. it's an authoritarian movement and i'm with that great liberal dick cheney, i think donald trump is the greatest threat to the country and people who support donald trump and help him are part of that threat. >> jeanne, one of the things about this position that they are taking, the ones who are taking it that this is just an outrage, that this is horrible, is that they are taking it without knowing the thing that donald trump could tell them. this is here is what i had at mar-a-lago, here's what they found, here's what they took back. here's what

trump. donald trump's case look, every, everybody needs a hero and donald trump found he is enlightenment. biden always says he has ukraine's back. you believe him? i think the ukraine, that it taken us a while there been some missteps. the, by much the whole democratic world has as rally to be a grant to creating how this is more that can be done. especially economic, remember, requires a quite developed country ukraine at the same time as it is fighting a war, has to deliver pensions as to operate hospital services has to keep children in school, in the cities where the war is an a bandpass to deal with this vast refugee diaspora, all of that cost more mas amounts of money, while they fight a fight in which we are all at. once we are all involved. russia dismisses criticism of its ukraine invasion by talking about western hypocrisy. look what they did in iraq, 20 years ago. they say, put in the point doesn't have 100000 people died in iraq for a war based on 2 big lives didn't. but what kind of point is that, excuse me, when i fire this rocket into an apartment building, because back in

and donald trump said no. and i feel like a typical republican politician would have thought about that offer. even offer room for negotiating. he completely took it off the table, even though it would've satisfied one of his top campaign promises. so i think that somebody like rob desantis would be more effectively able to work in this system, but he is more trump-y in terms of what he believes ideologically. he is very similar to donald trump. martin: thank you for your great analysis. thank you so much for your insights. and thanks to the viewers for good questions. and i wish you a good day, and i hope to talk to you again sometime in the near future, when we maybe have seen the results of the elections in >> our u.s. intelligence agencies prepared for the espionage threats facing the united states? china, russia, iran and north korea? we will look back into our archives cannot -- tonight on q&a. >> i think we are living in a moment of reckoning where the intelligence community has to go through a radical

and donald trump said no. and i feel like a typical republican politician would actually think about that offer and say maybe there is room for negotiating there. he took it completely off the table even though it would have satisfied his top campaign balances. so i do think ron desantis will be able to effectively work in the system but he has very trampy for lack of a better word in terms of what he believes policy wise and ideologically he will be similar to donald trump. >> thank you for your great analysis you too. thank you for your insight and thank you our reviewers for your questions and i wish you a good day. and a fine week and hope to talk to you again sometime in the near future. and we maybe have seen the results. goodbye. have a good day. bye-bye, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> over the past few months, the january 6 committee has conducted a series of hearings revealing the findings from its investigation. all week, watch c-span as we look back at the committee's eight hearings featuring p

every day of donald trump's life now is worse than the day before and donald trump knows that and feels that. pat cipollone stood on the floor of the united states senate and defended donald trump in his first impeachment trial now pat cipollone is cooperating with the fbi investigation of donald trump. and that first impeachment trump of donald trump in the united states senate with pat cipollone sitting at the defense table, our first guest tonight said what pat cipollone should have known to be true them. >> he has betrayed our national security and he will do so again. he has compromised our elections and he will do so again. you will not change him, you cannot constrain him. he is who is. truth matters little to him. what's right matters even less and decency matters not at all. >> congressman adam schiff will join us in a moment but we do have a call in wyoming. we go to stave steve kornacki at the big board tonight. steve what's happened in wyoming? >> it's official, harriet hageman has defeated republican congresswoman liz cheney for the republican nomination for the at large co

there is even more evidence of the legal danger donald trump faces. in that same memo that was released with the affidavit, in the explanation for why the redactions were necessary. quote, the materials of the government marked for a reduction in the attached document must remain sealed to protect the safety and privacy of a significant number of civilian witnesses, in addition to law enforcement personnel, as well as to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation, and to avoid disclosure of grand jury material in violation of the federal rules of criminal procedure. a significant number of civilian witnesses. an ongoing investigation to avoid disclosure of grand jury material. these are races and that can only add to donald trump's growing fear that he could finally face actual consequences, because this should be enough proof. for attorney general merrick garland, to criminally prosecute donald trump. tonight, in an article titled, donald trump is not about the law, the new york times editorial board writes, quote, no matter how careful mr. g

the client being donald trump. that is exactly what happened in the paul manafort case, where he told his lawyers to say something and made representations about what they should convey to the department of justice. and we got a court order from the chief judge in d.c. saying about that lawyer, there is no attorney client privilege there. the lawyer can reveal exactly who they learn the information from. and paul manafort was charged with lying to the government because he cost though statements to be made. exactly the same play can be made and the case law is very strong on that issue. and look, the lawyers have to make a choice. is it them or is that the client? i would actually suspect that it is the client. i think the lawyers would be incredibly foolhardy to sign something that they knew was false. >> bradley, it seems the client, donald trump, has a choice to make as of right now. these two can no longer up his lawyers, even for his own self protection. they're heading down a road where one way or another, th

if donald trump's spokesman says those are principles inconsistent with donald trump's views and inconsistent with the republican party's views, i think that ought to give every american pause about who donald trump is and what the republican party stands for today. >> this is obviously not the end. this is a new beginning for you. you're starting this political organization. what can you tell us? what are you going to do? >> i'm going to be very focused on working to ensure that we do everything we cannot to elect election deniers, and i'm going to work against those people. i'm going to work to support their opponents. i think it matters that much. >> will you be getting involved in campaigns against those republican candidates that are denying the results of the election? >> yes. >> including your republican colleagues in congress? >> yes. >> is the country better or worse off if kevin mccarthy is the next speaker of the house? >> my views about kevin mccarthy are very clear. the speaker in the house is the second in line for the presidency. it requires somebody who understands stands and

i really don't think donald trump changed the party, i think donald trump revealed the party. i don't think people abandon deeply held beliefs in in years, if a udo lands and i'll change my opinion. that didn't happen with donald trump. you look at these people and they care about nothing but power. the language here is just so striking. they have adopted the language -- to weather underground like a narco cartel. it's about wearing iron, and flipping, in who's a rat attacking the fbi. it's not a governing party anymore. it's an authoritarian movement and i'm with that great liberal dick cheney, i think donald trump is the greatest threat to the country and people who support donald trump and help him are part of that threat. >> gene, one of the things about this position that they are taking, the ones who are taking it, that this is just an outrage, that this is horrible, is that they are taking it without knowing the thing that donald trump could tell them. which is, this is here is what i had at mar-a-lago, here's what they found, here's what they took back. here's what the

that is what donald trump's former national security adviser, john bolton, said about donald trump's claim, that he had a standing order that any classified documents, that he took from the oval office, to anywhere else in the residence in the white house, automatically became declassified. john bolton told the new york times, he had never heard of the standing order that mr. trump's office claimed to have in place. it is, he said, almost certainly, a lie. joining us now is glenn gerstell, former general counsel for the national security agency serving the obama administration, and the trump administration. thank you very much for joining us tonight. let me begin by saying, i don't know anything about classification law. and i'm not sure how much of it, has regards the president, is actually written in federal statute, and how much of it is tradition, how much of it is a set of assumptions and rules? we are discovering so many other areas of government, that what we thought was rock solid turns out to, a great extent, gentleman's agreements, and things that are not written in law as

.— donald trump. right. but everything _ donald trump. right. but everything is— donald trump. right. but everything is a _ donald trump. right. but everything is a pr - donald trump. right. butl everything is a pr exercise donald trump. right. but - everything is a pr exercise for donald trump. frankly, let's be honest, we live in a world, in our social media world, in our 20 47 news world where weather controls the narrative has a big advantage. as a people say, the narrative should not have anything to do with the evidence of what is right or wrong, no, ina evidence of what is right or wrong, no, in a perfect world it shouldn't but guess what, it really does. trump has gotten out in front of this. what is interesting today is that we are at a time where a lot of republicans were starting to separate a little bit from trump. starting to talk about other candidates for the future and then this happens, the greatest gift trump can have because all of a sudden what happened today as you are reporting

to donald trump. but what the january 6 committee was doing was highlighting for people what trump had done, and i think it was making a difference. right now, in the summer months in august, where the hearings are off, because they will resume again in september, we wanted to make it stick and continue to highlight the january 6 committee, because they are important, an they are starting to help republicans -- because there were so many republicans testifying against trump. not just liz cheney, but every person they heard started to diminish people's enthusiasm for trump running again. and it's important that trump be defeated, that he not be a candidate again, that he not be president again. anything we can do to amplify the findings of the january 6 committee and help voters. host: featuring a republican named bill. [video clip] >> i don't know how to put this into words. trump lying about the election to me is unforgivable. he absolutely played a part in inciting the riots. he definitely prompted

donald trump does it more and louder than anybody else but don't think donald trump is the first . there are examples that democratssaid bush stole the election in 2000 . numerous democrats saw how close ohio was. eyesight cases where democrats said the machines were painted in wisconsin in the 2004 election. there are cases where hillary clinton questioned the absentee vote i'm sorry, the popular vote because it didn't match the exit polls and she allegedsomething had 01to happen to turn the election away from john kerry . but democrats in 2016 ace after case democrats after democrat objected to the trump vote and how many democrats tried to overturn the election in 2016 ? all through lies saying donald trump wasn't the legitimate winter. a lot happened in 2016 because they said members of the electoral college need a classified briefing to find out what happened. he didn't t collude with russia but they said he did and demanded a classified briefing of the electoral college. >> i'm thinking as i'm listening what the difference between people having questions. clearly al gore step

trump is a danger to the republic and we need to protect america by getting rid of donald trump that led to fall stories that needed to be retracted. and then to make a case for ideological diversity it would be helpful to keep the newsrooms go back to being more objective and fair with your errors. host: you make this point effectively but the number one newspaper in america is "the wall street journal" which is very conservative editorial page. and then to be dominated by the right may be more than five of the top ten political websites like the drudge report for many years. talk about talk radio and rush limbaugh and those conservatives that dominate in talk radio. and then to pick on the liberals it's about the mainstream media. "the new york times" and "washington post", abc, nbc, cbs, msnbc, cnn they don't get it from cable. host: but they do get it from the internet. >> i will get there. talk radio was dominated by conservatives and in recent years there has been a growth of conservative media especially on the internet like the federalist in the "washington examiner" that is

well, working for donald trump in donald trump's case, look, every, everybody needs a hero, and donald trump found he has invited ripple. biden always says he has ukraine's back. you believe him? i think the ukraine that it taken us a while there been some missteps. the by much the whole democratic world has rally to be great too crazy and this is more that can be done. especially economically, remember quite as a quite developed country ukraine at the same time as it is fighting a war, has to deliver pensions as operate. hospital services has to keep children in school in the cities where the war is and the bandpass deal with this vast refugee diaspora. all of that cost enormous amounts of money while they fight a fight in which we are all at. once we are all involved, russia dismisses criticism of its ukraine invasion by talking about western hypocrisy. look what they did in iraq, 20 years ago. they say, put, you know, the point doesn't have 100000 people died in iraq for a war based on 2 big lives didn't. but what kind of point is that, excuse me? well, i fire this rocket into an ap

donald trump delayed returning documents. only doing so when there became a threat of action being taken to retrieve them. fox news has confirmed that per standard protocol, fbi director wray and attorney general garland were aware of the raid before it occurred. however you characterize what happened in the united states of america today, this is a defining moment, a seminal moment, a partisan moment. one that generations will look back on and ask was this a moment we broke apart or able to come together? the answer to that question will be the questions we asked tonight. was there an evidentiary basis, a legal basis, or was this a partisan witch-hunt? to begin that conversation we start with fox's mike emanuel standing by with the latest. mike? >> good evening. mr. trump was in new york city at trump tower when he learned about the fbi raid of his mar-a-lago home. "the new york times" is reporting that federal authorities appear to be focused on material former president trump brought with him from the white house to his ho

yeah, i absolutely, i believe there is already sufficient evidence to indict donald trump. i firmly believe that he will be indicted separately in georgia. we know the grand jury is meeting right now. i mean, my goodness. he is on clearly intimidating the top election official in georgia, literally saying just find me the votes. i need in order to declare me the, the winner. the irony of all his schemes, of course, is that even of one state flipped, he still wouldn't be close to the actual number that he needed. he needed at least 3 states to flip a. but, you know, for someone like donald trump, that sort of practical thinking wouldn't come into the picture and my biggest fear i wrote an op ed in the spring of 2016 about donald trump in a philadelphia newspaper. and i said, donald trump is different than any previous democrat, or republican, or a wig, who came before and, and sought the presidency. because deep down he is not a small, di democrat, is obviously not a capital d democrat, but it's, i small de democrat. he does not believe in democracy. think of all of the worl

flipped on donald trump. i'm curious on what kind of insight that you have a, that reporting which has been out there in a couple of different places and there was human intelligence that led down this path and that there is this wide-ranging freakout and not just in the president's brain which is a place to have known to freak out, but around donald trump that there's a traitor among them. >> well, i don't know that i would look at this as an informant. i think it's clear that the justice department has interviewed people related to the national archives problem. we saw national archives, keep in mind they had requested documents as far back adthis year and they realized there was classified information on this and notified the justice department and they wanted to conduct interviews. i don't think that conducting an interview and people complying with the request for information from the justice department is the same as being an informant. i think that that kind of language does feed that paranoia, but i d