and india. host: i want to give our audience some geo-political perspective because obviously india borders china and afghanistan. -- china and pakistan. it is very close to afghanistan. guest: yes, it predates the afghan nation as an independent country. they're very close. that will not change. host: we appreciate your time. guest: thank you. host: the president has reportedly reached a decision on afghanistan. we will get to your phone calls and your reaction. we could hear a speech by the president next tuesday evening that would be followed by the president's national security team testifying on capitol hill next wednesday and thursday. "washington journal" continues in just a moment. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] >> coming this thanksgiving on c-span, american icons, three nights of c-span original documentaries on the iconic homes of the three branches of american government. beginning thursday night at 8:0

is that a view shared by india, and with india be prepared to support a robust sanctions against iran in order to discourage it from going down that path? you can go there or you can sit here. >> i forgot. well, as for our runs nuclear weapons ambitions are concerned,@@@@@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @& obligations that go with its membership. this rules out the nuclear weapon part. there is no ambiguity in our position. we're quite clear in our thinking that iran should not go to the nuclear weapon part. that is inconsistent with its obligation as a member of the npt. now with regards to the sanctions question, let me say that if the security council in its wisdom passes any resolution, we have in the past abided by the decisions of the security council. and as i see president obama this approach opening up a new pathway of engagement without preconditions, our hope is it will yield results. a few days ago i left new delhi and had the privilege of meeting the iranian foreign minister, who is an old student who studied in our country for many years. he was there. while talking, he mentioned explici

they are -- we export a lot of jobs to india. india is a hindu country although there are many moslems there, right next to two muslim countries where we saw there was a bombing in mumbai which was a problem. the indians and the pakistanis have a problems with kashmir. we need india, and we need them to be our strategic partners in that area if we're going to succeed in pakistan and afghanistan. so i think that the prime minister really said the key words, strategy, strategic partnership. >> larry: and sally will join us later when we talk about style. we'll talk about the white house menu with some people who really know what's cooking, next. welcome to the now network, population 49 million. right now 1.2 million people are on sprint mobile broadband. 31 are streaming a sales conference from the road. 154 are tracking shipments on a train. 33 are iming on a ferry. and 1300 are secretly checking email on a vacation. that's happening now. america's most dependable 3g network. bringing you the first and only wireless 4g network. r

it will be another opportunity to convey to the people of india as india assumes its rightful place as a global leader in the 20% three that you have in it -- have no better friend and partner than the united states of america. -- as a global leader in the 21st century that you have no better friend and partner than the united states of america. >> mr. president, distinguished ladies and gentlemen of the media, i thank from the core of my heart president obama for his very generous hospitality and for his very warm sentiments towards india and to me in particular. i am honored to be here today in this great country at the invitation of his excellency, the president. when india and the united states meat, it is a moment to celebrate the values of democracy, pluralism, liberty, and freedom. today, we have done that and much more. in our discussions today we hear of the importance of our relationship and decided on future steps to enhance our strategic partnership. we have agreed to further intensify our trade investment and economic cooperation in a way that creates jobs and prosperity i

they are -- we export a lot of jobs to india. india is a hindu country although there are many moslems there, right next to two moslem countries where we saw there was a bombing in mumbai which was a problem. the indians and the pakistanis have a problems with kashmir. we need india, and we need them to be our strategic partners in that area if we're going to succeed in pakistan and afghanistan. so i think that the prime minister really said the key words, strategy, strategic partnership. >> larry: and sally will join us later about style. the menu from people who really know what's cooking next. national car rental knows i'm picky. so, at national, i go right past the counter... and you get to choose any car in the aisle. choose any car? you cannot be serious! okay. seriously, you choose. go national. go like a pro. bonus on every single purchase. what you do with it is up to you. what will you get back with your cash back? it pays to discover. it doesn't cover everything. >> larry: joining us to discuss all of this, paula deen,

is that a view shared by india, and with india be prepared to support a robust sanctions against iran in order to discourage it from going down that path? you can go there or you can sit here. >> i forgot. well, as for our runs nuclear weapons ambitions are concerned, i will state ambiguously -- unambiguously, we do not support the nuclear ambitions of iran. iran is a signatory and has all the rights they go with this membership of the npt, the use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. at the same time it has obligations that go with its membership. this rules out the nuclear weapon part. there is no ambiguity in our position. we're quite clear in our thinking that iran should not go to the nuclear weapon part. that is inconsistent with its obligation as a member of the npt. now with regards to the sanctions question, let me say that if the security council in its wisdom passes any resolution, we have in the past abided by the decisions of the security council. and as i see president obama this approach opening up a new pathway of engagement without preconditions, our hope is it wi

in india and in 2010. how would also like to make -- i would also like to make a special mention of the special friendship that both vice president dr. joseph biden and secretary of state madame hillary clinton had shown to india. we deeply value their personal commitment to our relations. i leave with a sense of confidence that might visit has deepened mutual understanding between india and the united states. setting new directions on our strategic partnerships and away the will advance our national interest. i thank you. >> the prime minister will be happy to take a few questions. go ahead. >> yesterday you said you are about to complete the nuclear deal. it was just a matter of dotting i's and crossing t's. now you say there are few steps that remain. did you get stuck over some differences? did president obama help? >> we had a very good discussion, and at the highest levels, i had been assured by the united states leadership that the government of the united states remains committed to early implement

god bless india. [applause] >> president obama welcoming indian prime minister singh to the white house. that is scheduled for 11:35 a.m. eastern. and we will have that for you live on c-span. >> and more coverage tonight. >> thanksgiving day on c-span at 10 eastern bill clinton is on hand to present steven spielberg with this year's liberty medal from the national constitution center. also stanley greenberg and part of a panel assessing the obama presidency, and from the jfk library and museum nick burns and lesley gill on terrorism and nuclear weapons. at five, hip-hop artist and actor ludicrous on youth mentoring. coming this thanksgiving on c-span american icon, three nights of c-span or regional documentaries on the iconic homes of the three branches of american government. beginning thursday night at eight eastern, the supreme court, home to america's highest court review of the exquisite detail through the eyes of supreme court justices. then friday at 8 p.m. eastern the white house, inside ame

and india be going? could they talk about the possibility of setting up the cost benefit study group, which would provide a basis for later time to decide whether it is in our mutual interest to proceed as you are with others? >> bilateral free-trade agreements have been an important aspect of india's trade policy. we have signed an agreement, as you mentioned, with south korea and also with singapore. singapore was the first. we hope to extend another when we have to services. we are negotiating agreements with japan and the eu. we would be open to looking at a study to examine the costs and benefits of a similar arrangement with the united states. i think this is something that can proceed only on the basis of suitable comfort level on both sides. at the present juncture, we are not sure if that exists in the u.s.. >> i would like to ask a further question. my comment is, president obama's current trip to asia, and i 6 -- eye suspect most of the people in this audience know that, it has been an importa

-india forum. i would like to extend a special welcome to-excuse me -- indira noyuye i think we should give her a special hand. all three of these business leaders have worked tirelessly to strengthen commercial ties between our two countries. this is especially true of indira. she has done outstanding work as the chair. today we come together united behind an important goal -- strengthening the friendship between the united states and india. this friendship is vital to global peace, stability, and prosperity. that we should be good friends, allies, and trading partners only makes sense. we share so many fundamental values. we are a dramatic and -- we are dramatic and pluralistic democracies. we believe in freedom of speech and worship, and we celebrate a deep entrepreneurial culture. we're committed to expanding opportunities around the world to tearing -- by tearing down the barriers to trade and investment, and ensuring that growth and development can be shared by all people around the globe. to

it will be another opportunity to convey to the people of india as india assumes its rightful place as a global leader in the 20% three that you have in it -- have no better friend and partner than the united states of america. -- as a global leader in the 21st century that you have no better friend and partner than the united states of america. >> mr. president, distinguished ladies and gentlemen of the media, i thank from the core of my heart president obama for his very generous hospitality and for his very warm sentiments towards india and to me in particular. i am honored to be here today in this great country at the invitation of his excellency, the president. when india and the united states meat, it is a moment to celebrate the values of democracy, pluralism, liberty, and freedom. today, we have done that and much more. in our discussions today we hear of the importance of our relationship and decided on future steps to enhance our strategic partnership. we have agreed to further intensify our trade investment and economic cooperation in a way that creates jobs and prosperity i

it will be another opportunity to convey to the people of india as india assumes its rightful place as a global leader in the 20% three that you have in it -- have no better friend and partner than the united states of america. -- as a global leader in the 21st century that you have no better friend and partner than the united states of america. >> mr. president, distinguished ladies and gentlemen of the media, i thank from the core of my heart president obama for his very generous hospitality and for his very warm sentiments towards india and to me in particular. i am honored to be here today in this great country at the invitation of his excellency, the president. when india and the united states meat, it is a moment to celebrate the values of democracy, pluralism, liberty, and freedom. today, we have done that and much more. in our discussions today we hear of the importance of our relationship and decided on future steps to enhance our strategic partnership. we have agreed to further intensify our trade investment and economic cooperation in a way that creates jobs and prosperity i

there'll be a joint news conference with india and a state dinner for the prime minister of india. live coverage of the news conference begins at 11:35, eastern. >> thanksgiving day on c-span, at 10:00 eastern, bill clinton is on hand to present steven spielberg with this year's liberty medal. also a panel assessing the obama presidency and the discussion on terrorism and nuclear weapons. also the economy and capitalism. that is by giving day on c-span. >> special representative to afghanistan richard holbrooke briefed reporters on hillary clinton's recent trip to that country. he also talked about the president's deliberation on u.s. troop levels in a afghanistan. this is 45 minutes. >> good afternoon and welcome. last week, secretary clinton, on the tail end of her trip to asia was in kabul to observe the inauguration of president karzai for a second term of office. some of you were on that leg of the trip. with her was her special representative for afghanistan and pakistan, richard holbrooke. we think it is important there is a government in place in afghanistan. we want to put

india's very eclectic, and it is enchanting, but, you know, we went to india actually as vacation. >> host: yeah. it's not enough trouble for you. >> guest: there was something, i don't know, i feel very comfortable in muslim countries. i was in minneapolis, in fact, two weeks ago, and inside some of these somali malls there are no windows that are just very close, i mean, they're very much like a traditional souk, and the call to prayer is going off -- >> host: a bazaar, a marketplace. >> guest: exactly. and the call to prayer is going off, and it just struck a cord. -- chord. there's something very comfortable about that culture for me. so we'll see. but i did spend some time in bangladesh which is culturally, religiously very much like pakistan. >> host: it spun off after the civil war in 1971 and now is one of the poorest but most vibrant countries in the world. >> guest: that's exactly right. socially, it couldn't be more different than pakistan in that -- >> host: how? >> guest: in that you can go, the conspiracy hawking, the sort of notion that there's a cia plot behind every d

india and china's solution. start with india. this is india's cost dominated by agricultural levers you can see all of the yellow letters. this was put together as an abrogation of cost curves for 19 different areas. suites the kind of summary with that picture would look like. the question is of course can india solved this water gap, the water that we are projecting, tenet de felch? how much will it cost, so we do this analysis. we overly the gatt that we projected for in degette over the cost curve, and you can see to important fact. the first thing it can resolve the water gap and in fact it can do so with some room to spare if you will. the second point which is also important is how much will it cost? if we add up all of the costs on an annual basis across all the measures we found a number around 6 billion u.s. dollars per annum. that is in a very large number for the country the size of india in 2013. 6 million per annum. i hasten to add this doesn't mean it is easy but it does mean that the financial commitment required

. >> it is at a crossroads, china, india and, brazil, russia, most of asia, are all following us. affluence has made more mobility which is wonderful, and the way has been gm going to china and saying, buy cars. so, we're at the crossroads where it could be conventional or really could be different. and that is a lot of what the book is about. >> when you say, there are 1 billion motor vehicles on the world's roads today the title of your new book coauthored by daniel spurling says 2 billion cars. >> over the last 100 years, we have invented the car and fueled it with oil and have risen now to a billion. in the next 15 years, we expect to double that to 2 billion and that is the road we're on. it is incredibly fast. >> why? >> for the sake of affluence and mobility. and, right now the only technology we have for mobility is a motor vehicle. >> where is the growth, tro. >> the growth is in china, number one, india, number 2, brazil and russia, also, indonesia, rail, throughout asia, largely throughout asia, and in america we have over one car per person and we will be replacing our

and why india? >> bad decision is made by the president and his advisers -- of that decision is made by the president and his advisers and security council. i'm sure it comes about because of our relationship with various countries and to we want to -- who we want to order for a state visit. everyone is very happy that this year is india. >> president bush -- host: president bush favored having a state dining room, which would see typically 140 or 150 guests. you are no stranger to the south lawn tense during the clinton administration and they are back now. total guests are around 400. what led to that decision? guest: i'm not sure what led to it, but usually it is that the first lady would like to be able to accommodate more people for the state dinner. india is a very large country. we have a lot of people in the united states from india. we would like to be able to cut -- to showcase our country and the white house and what we do here for other countries. a tent is just like room when you actual

so i was struck by the stove scenario for india. it just by improving the cookstoves and making these available have a very significant effect on air quality and reduction in her respiratory infection and respiratory disease and also other her chronic diseases. so i think that the science based symbol solutions that can be implemented lightly in countries like africa and india, bangladesh but also have a counterpart as was pointed out in the studies in the developed countries by improving indoor air quality, improving the control of temperature and heat this then is a very powerful message for the individuals in these countries and for the individuals in the u.s.. i would emphasize we now have powerful tools. we have the tools of molecular biology that allow us to track pathogens. we have the tools of remote sensors and satellites that allow loss to do now casts and eventually forecasts of infectious diseases and that with one of the factors of climate change namely sea level rise and flooding and having just returned from london an

the third white house dinner for india and the last decade. activities are under way on the south lawn. we are joined here on the north lawn by a reporter from polit ico. >> there were certainly big names on the invitation list. everyone was looking for oprah winfrey, but she was not there. a lot of hollywood stars. i think people were probably expecting a lot bigger names tonight, because this is a white house that is almost like a revolving door for celebrities. many have come through the white house. there were a mess that brad pitt would be here. he did not show on. -- there were rumors that brad pitt would be here. >> hollywood has definitely come out to support him. during the campaign we saw celebrities starring in songs about barack obama. we saw some of that with them coming back to the white house and celebrating. all of the guests entered through eased interest. -- through the east entrance. >> that is where the white house historical association set up shop before 9/11. >> blair underwood and other hollywood stars as they walk thro

india says he's tree to travel anywhere in india. >>> a suicide car bomb has kelled 11 people in pakistan including a town mayor who turned against the taliban. officials say the bomb hit a market packed this morning. at least 36 people were injured. the mayor used to support the taliban but he switched sides two years ago. the taliban claimed responsibility for the attack and said that it had already tried to kill the mayor several times. >>> this is a group of kids who led the ground breaking for a permanent national memorial to flight 93 yesterday. it's going to honor the crew and passengers who died in the september 11th crash in pennsylvania. one mother who lost her daughter said it was a joyful day. >> i was thinking of my daughter who was a passenger on flight 93, you you know, what she would think about today. and she would be very happy and proud that people will have a permanent memorial to come to and remember her and her fellow passengers. >> organizers say they're going to push to make sure the memorial is completed by september 11, 2011, the ten-year anniversary of the terro

a world bank study of india points out in 2005 study, points out that 15% of the india's people are being fed from grain produced by over pumping. that is 175 million people. we have done a comparable as the men for china. it is about 130 million people being fed by over pumping in you can go through the list of countries, pakistan, iran, mexico that are also over pumping. but one of these days, and the thing that is so, so disturbing about this is that water tables are following in so many countries at the same time. countries in the middle east that imports, that they are pushing against the limits of their water supply, and north africa and throughout the middle east including iran, when they need more water for cities, they usually take it from the irrigation water supply and then they import grain to offset the loss of productive capacity. the reason for this is that since it takes 1,000 tons of water to produce 1 ton of grain the most efficient way to import water is in the form of grain. crane becomes the currency with which countries balance their water books. and the world grain

you do us and the people of india a great honor by this wonderful gesture. on your part. we are overwhelmed by the warmth of your hospitality. thein courtesy you have extende to us personally and the grace and charm of the first lady. [applause] >> mr. president, your journey to the white house has captured the imagination of millions and millions of people in india. you are an inspiration to all those who cherish the values of democracy, diversity, and equal opportunity. [applause] >> mr. president, i can do no better than to describe your achievements in the words of abraham lincoln, who said, and i quote, it's not the years in your life that count, it is the life in your years, unquote. [applause] >> mr. president, we warmly applaud the recognition by the nobel committee after hearing that you have provided and the power of your idealism and your vision. [applause] >> mr. president, your leadership of this great nation of the united states coincides with the time of profound changes taking place in the world at large. we need to find new partners of international coope

. >> secretary, you visited india recently? >> hug um. >> and you -- uh-huh. >> and you visited china sflenal one of the big criticisms that is heard in congress among republicans is that we can't solve the climate issue alone, that we have to have commitments from these countries. what's your sense of where china or india is going in terms of actually reductions in greenhouse gas? carbon dioxide for burning fassel fuels? >> i will agree -- if you look at -- for example in the united states and china, where over 40% of the greenhouse gas emissions in the world today. so we need both the developed countries and the developing countries to say we're all in this together. of course, nobody expects a developing country to decrease their carbon emissions or do things that a developed country has the capability of doing. so the language in the u.n. is manage. if i look at what china is doing, i've seen a sea change over the last year or two. i recall that was a -- there was a release of a report that i had co-chairpersonned on sustai

so has india to a point. and this is where the incremental divide is going to come from, not from the united states or western europe. and this recovery continues, we think we should be able to sell as much oil as we are selling now. and if it is a bonus and a growth in europe and north studl amounts, then there may be room for some more incremented in the quantity of oil that we put back. at the moment, i don't see that as such a likelihood, but what i said was in the event of the international market calling for oil in order to keep prices within reasonable level and we are ready to put more out. [inaudible]

. >> who determines that india will have the first state visit? and why india? >> bad decision is made by the president and his advisers -- of that decision is made by the president and his advisers and security council. i'm sure it comes about because of our relationship with various countries and to we want to -- who we want to order for a state visit. everyone is very happy that this year is india. >> president bush -- host: president bush favored having a state dining room, which would see typically 140 or 150 guests. you are no stranger to the south lawn tense during the clinton administration and they are back now. total guests are around 400. what led to that decision? guest: i'm not sure what led to it, but usually it is that the first lady would like to be able to accommodate more people for the state dinner. india is a very large country. we have a lot of people in the united states from india. we would like to be able to cut -- to showcase our country and the white house and what we do here for other countries. a tent is just like room when you actual

. >> secretary, you've visited india and china recently. what are the big criticisms heard in congress is that we cannot solve the current issue of loan, we need commitments. what is your sense of where things are going in terms of actual reductions in greenhouse gas? >> i will agree if you look at, for example, in the u.s. and china, where 40% is there, we need the developed countries and undeveloped countries to say they are in together. but no one expects developed countries to decrease emissions or do things that a developed company has the ability of doing. so the un language can hear out if i look at what china is doing, i see a sea change. there was a release of a report i had the privilege of cochairing about how can the world transition to sustainable energy. the inter academy council, representing science academy's across the world. they were purging energy efficiency, but there was no great question of climate change. we were talking about these issues. two days later -- two years later, a comeback, have another dinner, and i see

when i lived in villages in india in 1956 india was only 9 years old. it was created, one of the many countries created as a result of the colonization during the couple of decades after world war ii. this was the period of nation-building, creating new states, colonies becoming independent. now suddenly in the past decade we have this new term creating into our vocabulary, failing state. a failed state is a state that can provide personal security. pakistan would be an example and many others. a failing state cannot feed its people. 80 would be a dramatic example. states are failing and the risk is growing longer year over year and the question is how many failing states before our global civilization begins to unravel? yesterday i was in minneapolis. and it took 3 cavs and all three were somalis. i couldn't help but contrast them driving cabs and moving us about and their cousins still in somalia trying to make a living by escorting ships into the harbor and holding them ransom. what a division. these guys were very nice, good cabdrivers. they are now

i believe that the proliferation and that part of the world has stabilized the relationship between india and china and also between india and pakistan because they understand the costs of eight war are greater than the benefit. u.s. and china i think equally unlikely, maybe even more unlikely. china -- i have a definition of ideology. on issues you take an extreme position and extremely resolve to hold them. the model was all ideology. china is no longer -- the chinese government is no longer idealogical. it is a petty dictatorship sustaining itself in power and it is very good at sustaining itself in power, so to the extent that there is an issue with china it is a purely internal issue, and that is that as more and more eletes rise in influence particularly in the coastal provinces the ability of the central government to sustain its control will become more difficult and they will have to choose either to liberalize and allow the is averse to have more say or crack down and choose to keep themselves in power at the expense of the economy and that could lead to an inclusion. i don't se

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even the 800 call numbers answered in india. because americans cost too much as workers. the only thing the globalist or wanting the united states to do is be a consuming society. and then i write a whole chapter on dependence on oil because this is another way we are letting currency go out of the united states. and i showed that i've predicted another books black gold stranglehold wheel can be found a predicted would be found in abundance at deep levels in the earth and deep water. brazil is about to become saudi arabia of the western hemisphere , and yet president obama has not resolved to make a decision on the offshore drilling driven by congress of the end of the bush administration. we can't keep shoveling billions of dollars out the door to other countries and foreign exchange reserves or like china, china announced recently in some academic articles china but like to have public-private partnerships where the exchange their debt for equity. in other words for these trillions of dollars of debt china might see why don't

india. what happens in afghanistan will affect the future of pakistan. i'm going under the premise that afghanistan is just like vietnam. it is a loser. it is already owned by the taliban. according to mr. singh, he said afghanistan is a friend of india. he announced to the world yesterday. he's in a no-win situation. host: that is peter in philadelphia. next caller in phoenix, good morning to you. caller: i think this whole war is a big mistake. host: why is that? caller: we're in a no-win situation going into afghanistan. the soviets with in there, and the afghanis ran them out of theire. is a no-win situation. we are going to send in 30,000 troops to get slaughtered? it does not make any sense. host: "usa today" leads on a public opinion poll on the war. susan page has written the story. host host: next telephone call is from clearwater, fla. on the democrats' line. caller: i say we should absolutely get out now. afghanistan is nothing more than a graveyard of empires. we have these terri

, how many indian citizens or former -- were born in india work at google? you ask any factual question i may as well be talking to a cia agent. i don't get an answer. so the notion of transparency has its limits at google about that. and some of that, i know, comes from larry page who all his life he read a book very early in his life about tesla who, arguably, invented electricity, but because he was very generous and shared his secrets wound up dying a very bitter and poor man, and thomas edison got all the credit. so larry page talks about this. he's talked about it not just to me, but he's talked about that elsewhere, the importance of keeping things secret. and there are secrets that are worth keeping. you keep your black box of what your algorithm is to determine search is a secret for good reason. you don't want people to game the system. if they did, you would lose the kind of trust that's essential to your success. the other contradictions are there is a genuine idealism here, and when the slogan don't be evil was created by paul, that resonated on

the prime minister india. -- the president of the united states. [laughter] [applause] ♪ ♪ >> please be seated. welcome to the white house. [speaking for languagforeign la] many of you were here when i became the first american president to celebrate the festival of lights. some of you were here for the celebration of the birth of the founder of sikhism. tonight, we gather again for the first state dinner ofof our presidenpresidency with the inde minister and his wife. we have incredible food, music, we're surrounded by great friends. it has been said that the most beautiful things and universe are the starry heavens above us and the feeling of duty within us. mr. prime minister, today we work to fulfill our duty to bring our countries closer together than ever before. tonight under the stars, we celebrate the spirit and will sustain our partnership. this is upon that includes more than 2 million in americans who enrich every corner of our great nation. leaders in government, science, industry, the arts. some of whom joined us tonight. but this

you do us and the people of india great honor by this wonderful your part. we are honored by your hospitality, the courtesy you have extended to us personally, and the graciousness of the first lady. [applause] >> you are an inspiration to all those who cherish the values of dempsey, diversity and equal -- democracy, diversity and equal opportunity. [applause] >> mr. president, i can do no better than to describe your achievements in the words of abraham lincoln, who said, and i quote, "indians, it's not the years in your life that count, it is the life in your years." [applause] >> mr. president, we warmly applaud the recognition by the nobel committee of the healing touch you have provided and the power of your idealism and your vision. [applause] >> mr. president, your leadership of this great nation of the united states coincides with the timing of profound changes taking place in the world at large. we need to find new pathways of international cooperation that respond more effectively to the grave challenges caused by the growing interdependence of nat

india wants more influence in afghanistan. you talked about the apples, 12 tons coming back the other way. pakistan on the other hand remains suspicious of indian hegemony. they talk about putting afghan out of indian reach. how can the u.s. balance the interests of these two key partner, one of which is the key partner in the war on terror? >> first of all, all americans, and everyone here is just delighted that the first state visit of this administration is india. no one in pakistan or any other country should read this in any way as a comminution -- diminution of their importance. someone has to have the first trip, but -- it used to be european allies. they come for informal trips. a state dinner is a big event. president obama thought this was the way to go. it should not be read as a diminution. we seek to improve our relations with pakistan. we seek to improve our relations with china. we seek to improve our relations with india. this is not a zero-sum game. every country benefits from improvement in the area. i'm not

to support a major security council seat for india. >> to get to the first part of your question on india and china as a two rising powers, there are very important on the rise in global scene. china, as we have said, there are issues of concern that we have with the chinese and we have raised them. all levels of air action and hopefully china will move in the direction that we would like to see it go. it is an important nation. india and china, they're going to be countries that we deal very closely with in the coming years. i do not know what more to say about it. they are key. our relationships with both are growing. do we have concerns? yes. they both have concerns with us. it is why we need to work closely and have intensive dialogue with both countries. i think both also realize the importance of the indo-sino relationship. they need to improve that for regional and global security. the second part of your question with regards to -- please refresh my memory. >> a un security seat backs -- sear? -- security seat? >> we will have to see how that goes. i do not know about any announce

it is a war between pakistan and india and we are there to try to defend india from all of the people that are being sent in to cause trouble. we are there to protect them both, i do not know how we are going to do that. they both have nuclear weapons, so i guess we are kind of screwed. as far as troops, i do not think that the president should be sending any more. we should allow them to fight it out. it is their civil war and we should allow them to fight their own situation. it is not worth our troops a dying, we have lost enough and given enough. my question is, should we not be talking to the president about getting out of there? guest: i do not think that he is going to call to talk to me about it. whether we should get out or not, i tend to think we have done about as much as we can achieve over there. but you cannot just leave. some sort of phased withdrawal is in the cards at some point. most likely because of the politics we are going to see something of an escalation, i would be very surprised if he throws us a curve ball other than that. i think that we will start on the r

. >>> the if i knfbi is checking whether two chicago men may have played a role in terror tax in india. the agency says one of the men was in contact with a pakistani group that india blames for last year's attacks in mumbai. they arrested those men last month and they were plotting to kill a danish newspaper editor depicting cartoons. >>> the wild turkey is now off the road. wildlife officials finally caught her yesterday. >> i was a little concerned. i thought we were going to start seeing headlines that said turnpike, two, tami, zero. >> we understand she'll start sharing a home with a male turkey named gobbles. >> gobble bleeping gobble, all right? let me show you what's going on across the east coast and midwest. portions around illinois, the rain is wrapping up around us. it's going to be heavy at times this morning. right around central illinois and driving through the carol e carolinas and virginia. mainly west of washington and baltimore, but you'll get some showers moving in toward d.c. let me take you live to d.c. trying to get in or out, you have the clouds coming in, a lit

. >> you asked about india and china. what did you hear? >> i think the administration hopes that if they can get india and china to commit to something, and later so progress in copenhagen, it will help them. one of the biggest criticisms there is, and one that resonates, is why do something that will hurt us economically when china and india, out who will produce huge amounts of carbon dioxide, are not doing it? i think the administration, correctly or not, seems to think that it can get china to do things. in the same respect, they also have made clear that the administration is getting ready to make deals in congress. maybe do some more of nuclear. right now they're short in the senate, and almost all republicans saying it can hurt places like ohio and pushed jobs overseas, perhaps to china. so that might be where they think copenhagen can help them on the bill. >> thank you both for your time. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] >> up next, a form on the impac

if you can say, well, we can't cut our greenhouse gas emissions because after all india and china and brazil and some other rapidly developing countries are not cutting bears. it would be unfair to put our citizens, face a burden, while these other people continue to pollute, forgetting that, you know, western europe and the united states has been polluting for 200 years and china and india are just getting started. instead of stepping back and saying i have a different plan. we will unilaterally impose very high taxes on fossil fuel use. two main fossil fuel use is that our heavy polluters. gasoline, you know that, fertilizer is a bigger greenhouse gas emitter than gasoline. so, if we put a heavy tax on fertilizer on gasoline it will be more expensive to drive big cars and will be more expensive to drive produced at the supermarket. now we can figure out why this doesn't. we can use those tax dollars to help compensate the indians, chinese, and so forth for switching to cleaner energy sources. and we could use some of the leftover money to sponsor research among cleaner energy users.

on the one hand, he had to take a stand that would encourage india and china that we would, in fact, take a stand. and he also led to do it in a way that would not hurt his chances with congress. for 12 years, congress has been asking for action from india and china and brazil and korea and so on. we now have that. major developing country has stepped up in the past two weeks and said, here is our target. i think he is in a good position to say, i have met the goal. i've got an the other countries to step up and now we have to step up and do our part. it was a balancing act. host: ned helme here to take your calls. let's go to north carolina, charlotte, where martha is on the democrats' line. go ahead, martha, you are on the air. i think we might have lost martha. let's move on to minneapolis, where patty is on the republicans line. caller: i am wondering if your guest or you yourself are aware of the global warming cycle where the so-called scientists deleting their records, if it should give out, how they haveie manipulaì+ temperatures for certain years, how is the scientists wro

if you look at the major powers like china, russia, and india, in order to get to where they are perched american power, long before they get to the point, they will get to those around them that have, as geography has it, some other part to look for for assistance. so as china grows bigger and stronger, it is not surprising that we find greater eagerness or more american involvement in the region, not less. and i think although our west european friends are in european friends are in different, -- there is a checking mechanism. that does not have to work. that is something that other european powers have to overcome that we do not have to overcome. i continue to believe that we are the world's most dynamic economy, even if we are going to our doldrums. i will leave it to this panel to say that something we are doing now has fundamentally changed that dynamism to the point where we will no longer be dynamic. i am not persuaded that that is no longer the case. finally, there is the fact that our enormous defense capability that is not measured in the size of our $600 billion budget defici

it does not include india and the rest of the pacific rim. we will not have one single job left if we do not have a change in these policies. hopefully, you can look up the new view and to the model that was put together in the 1700's, it does not work. it is not a factual in comparing third world countries to first world countries. guest: i am not familiar with that, but it is something that may have relevance. when you talk about the work force in china or the work force in india, as the all know, the quality of life and standard of living here verses other countries, there is a significant difference. you also have to take into account things such as the epa and other things that impact the cost of doing business here. i am not a lawyer with the model that you talked about, but it may have relevance as to continue these discussions. host: in dayton, ohio, and one on the democrats' line. caller: i grew up in youngstown, ohio. i went to high school there for two years. i remember youngstown as being a beautiful, environmental city. i used to

and i was wondering, when you see in china and india, you know, the exponential growth of meat and poultry and the expansion of dams and coal power and the legitimate argument they have for development in progress, what kind of words of hope do you have for the environment in these countries? >> well, all i can do, you know, i don't have the ultimate solution to anything. but we have been working now for 14, 13 years developing roots and chutes in china. it's right across the country. we've got more than 600 very active groups. there has been terrific response to the last book i did which was called harvest for hope which was about food and meat eating and stuff like that. there are many -- if you were to go to the universities in china where we have these roots and chutes programs, you would find people thinking and feeling exactly like you do, and with rather more desperation because the country is so huge, so the problems are so huge. so the only way to have hope, i think, is to take it in pieces and say, you know, it's like the global problem. if we spend time thinking about what's hap

not only was the president there, but india's prime minister too. now the secret service wants to question the couple. one newspaper says two agents showed up at their oasis winery about 11:00 friday morning. a vineyard manager tolded agent the salahis weren't there. then she says the agents left this message for them. >> they said -- [ inaudible ] and that if they didn't -- [ inaudible ] >> reporter: the revelation has left many asking how could the security breach happen. the agency charged with protecting the president says its own protocols violated at an initial check point. then the director issued this rare admission. quote, "the secret service is deeply concerned and embarrassed by the circumstances surrounding the state dinner on tuesday, november 24." a former agent tells fox 5 you can count on the agency launching a detailed investigation. >> it's not a joke. it's not laughable. it requires significant apartment of review to see exactly what took place. >> reporter: a lawyer for the wannabe reality tv star says the couple was invited. he

so india is a very important player. and india carries a bit of of -- say not very hellful baggage in discussions, tending to emphasis more of the responsibility of developing countries. even there in response to movement during the world there's been some change of focus recently. so i'm hopeful that india too will play a positive role. amongst the developed countries they will be waiting for the u.s. well, waiting for the u.s. commitment had been made. but everyone has been recognizing the u.s. is the big piece of the jigsaw sitting in the middle without which you can't come together. : >> urge us all to cut our emissions of fossil fuels. as we look to helping the emerging-market countries with ameliorating their problems we should also remember that there are 2 billion people in the world to have no access to commercial fuels as we know them here used dung and agricultural residues and wood. we should not lose sight in copenhagen that if the people have any hope for a vibrant future we have to find a way to bring them

. >> and joe hebert, you asked about india and china. what are you -- did you hear? >> i think the administration homes that if they can get india and china to commit to something and if they can show significant progress on that front in copenhagen it will help them come back in the spring and help them pass a bill in congress. one of the biggest criticisms that there is is why should we do something that's going to hurt us economically when china and independence ave, which are going to produce huge amounts of carbon dioxide are not doing single i think the administration, correctly or not, seems to think that it can get china to do things. in the same respect, i think he also has made clear that the administration is ready to do a little deal making in congress. maybe put a little more music -- nuclear into a i.b.m. but it seems to be confident that it can get a bill, even though right now they're way short of getting the 60 votes in the senate and there are sent risk democrats, as well as almost all republicans who are very oposed to this bill, saying it's an ene

if you look at the major powers like china, russia, and india, in order to get to where they are perched american power, long before they get to the point, they will get to those around them that have, as geography has it, some other part to look for for assistance. so as china grows bigger and stronger, it is not surprising that we find greater eagerness or more american involvement in the region, not less. and i think although our west european friends are in different, our eastern friends are not, so there is a natural checking mechanism. it does not have to work, but it is something that other powers have to overcome that we do not have to. so that is a natural thing. i continue to believe that we're the most dynamic economy even as we are going for doldrums, and it is up to other people in the panel to say whether something we're doing now is fundamentally changed that dynamism to the time where we can no longer be dynamic, but our ability to adapt historically to changing circumstances has been greater than those of other countries. i am not persuaded that is no longer the case. fi

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india and pakistan are coming to the brink of war because of the attacks parliament in 2001. you have indian forces on the south pakistan border on the same point you add slow kate united states was an advocate military operations on the northern side and i'm trying figure whether or not we would have looked safer. >> this is a very good question and they do show some of the problems we're taking the base "tjz lack of evidence. and the stress thpá again. growing on the on-going from public sources to some extent from the pakistan rather than from any insight in documentary terms so i will stand corrected the moment the commencery should appear. difficulties the united states got into literally when it decided to act lot are literal 2003. key argument to forward very e tech effectively. one main reason sadam had to be removed. not that he was a troublemaker be but profoundly evil. someone that stood for a terrible way of treating his population including afghans. a whole sect of values that were so in acceptable that one had to act in order to remove him. quotes on the paper