i called the faa. they told me, and i asked them if they had a helicopter, she told me i had to call 911. i called 911. i have given you guys the actual phone records to prove that, and this is what everybody's got all wrong. after the 9/11 call after two minutes of me talking about it, it went to ft. collins city. it was not recorded at larimer county. they transferred later on. so after i give the phone to mayumi you can hear me clearly in the background talking to what i say is the people in the helicopter. she handed me a phone and say call them. she didn't call channel 9 news. >> larry: mayumi is your wife, took a polygraph test, showed deception on key questions. according to police she told them you and she had instructed your children to lie to authorities during and after the october 15th incident. police are saying that's what your wife told them. >> did you tell the boys what you were doing? >> we told them. >> and how did you get them to go along with it? did you ask them to act like their

i called the faa. they told me, and i asked them if they had a helicopter, she told me i had to call 911. i called 911. i have given you guys the actual phone records to prove that, and this is what everybody's got all wrong. after the 9/11 call after two minutes of me talking about it, it went to ft. collins city. it was not recorded at larimer county. they transferred it later on. so after i give the phone to mayumi you can hear me clearly in the background talking to what i say is the people in the helicopter. she handed me a number and said call them. she didn't say call channel 9 news. >> larry: i don't want to get confused here. mayumi is your wife. she took a polygraph test, showed deception on key questions. according to police she told them you and she had instructed your children to lie to authorities during and after the october 15th incident. police are saying that's what your wife told them. >> did you tell the boys what you were doing? >> we told them. >> and how did you get them to go al

i called the faa. they told me, and i asked them if they had a helicopter, she told me i had to call 911. i called 911. i have given you guys the actual phone records to prove that, and this is what everybody's got all wrong. after the 9/11 call after two minutes of me talking about it, it went to ft. collins city. it was not recorded at larimer county. they transferred it later on. so after i give the phone to mayumi you can hear me clearly in the background talking to what i say is the people in the helicopter. sheehaned me a number and say call them. she didn't say call channel 9 news. >> larry: i don't want to get confused here. mayumi is your wife. took a polygraph test, showed deception on key questions. according to police she told them you and she had instructed your children to lie to authorities during and after the october 15th incident. police are saying that's what your wife told them. >> did you tell the boys what you were doing? >> we told them. >> and how did you get them to go along wi

the faa officials say they're looking to see if there is a larger problem here. the airline said it's cooperating with the investigation. >>> and an assisted living center shutting the doors due to a strange illness. some in woodbridge have come down with flu-likeitism soms. no visitors are allowed for the time being. the health department said that one, once residents start to feel better, they will lift the quarantine. > the search is on for survivors after massive mud slides in brazil. 26 people are dead at the luxury beach resort of ella grande. another in d.c. reos killed at least 13. they were triggered by 10 inches of rain that fell in the area in three days. the areas are popular vacation spots. >>> the family of abe poland is speaking out about players packing heat. gilbert arenas and critten don are accused of pulling guns on each other inside the locker room. poland's family said, quote, the fact that guns were brought to the verizon center is dangerous and disappointing and showed extremely por judgment. john henrehan has more reaction from fans at --

the faa didn't know? the faa didn't know? >> the faa -- they get all the information available to the intelligence community that relates to terrorist threats. we have that system working well. but clearly in the case of abdulmutallab, the system didn't work the way it was designed to. >> and in conclusion, i'd like to talk about the president for one moment. three months ago on october 6th, he said this at the national counterterrorism center. just listen to this. >> you are setting the standard, you're showing us what focused and integrated counterterrorism really looks like. and the record of your service is written in the attacks that never occur. because you thwarted them. >> now, on tuesday, it was a very, very different president obama who was a lot less complimentary about the intelligence services. listen to this. >> when our government has information on a known extremist and that information is not shared and acted upon as it should have been, so this extremist words a plane with dangerous expl

. >> was the faa put on alert about this that people might be coming through airports with explosives in their underwear? >> there was nothing in the assassination attempt against the prince that indicated aviation was a target. we were concerned about the possible assassination attempts and so we have been taking steps as we get this information -- >> the faa, no? >> the faa get all the information that's available to the intelligence community that relates it terrorist threats. so we have that system working well, but clearly in the case of mr. abdulmutallab the system didn't work the way it was designed to work. >> in conclusion i'd like to talk about the president for one moment. three months ago on october 6th me said this at the national counterterrorism center. just listen to this. >> you are setting the standard. you're showing what was focused and integrated counterterrorism really looks like. the record of your service is written in the attacks that never occur. because you thwarted them. >> now, on tuesday it was a very, very different president obama who was a lot less com

we have been taking steps, as we get this information. >> the faa didn't know? >> the faa, they get all the information that is available to the intelligence community that relates to terrorist threats. so, we have that system working well but clearly in the case of mr. abdulmutallab, the system didn't work the way it was designed to. >> before he was a bomb suspect, umar farouk abdulmutallab was reportedly a student of extremism, known by british intelligence for his political ties while at school in london. a british official tells the associated press that the my year january man started making contact with extremists under surveillance a year after arriving in the uk but no one considered him enough of a threat to alert american authorities. >>> a florida man accused of going on a shooting rampage thanksgiving day and murdering four of his relatives is now in custody and it is all because of a tip from a television viewer. palmeiro hiu paul merhige he was arrested last night after the owner of the hotel where he was staying recognized him from "america's mos

. >>> the faa says it is taking a closer look at american airlines because the carrier had three landings go wrong last month. the first incident happened september 13th, a plan landing in charlotte went off the runway and another plane overshot a runway in jamaica and injured passengers and you can see in this video and two days later, another plane hit a wing tip while landing in austin, texas. american airlines spokesman said they are cooperating with the investigation he said was routine in landing incidents. >>> it takes ink to make a tattoo and for police to take a fingerprint. you will not believe what a couple did with one that got them the other. . >>> about 15 same sex couples in new hampshire rang in the new year exchanging wedding vows in the cold. the state law legalizing same sex marriage went into effect new year's day at midnight. couples said i do outside the statehouse in concord and others planned ceremonies around the state. the law grants no new rights to gays and lesbians but elimit nates the separate status fcivi unions and joins other states in allowing gay marriag

. >>> the faa says it's looking closer at american airlines because their carrier had three landings go wrong last month. the first incident happened on december 13th when a plane landing in charlotte went off the left side of the runway. over a week later, another american flight overran a runway in kingston, jamaica, injuring 91 passengers. you can see the aftermath in this video. then two days later an american airlines plane hit a wingtip while landing in austin, texas. an american spokesperson told cnn the airline is cooperating with the investigation, which he says is routine in landing incidents. >>> well, it takes ink to make a tattoo. and for the police to take a fingerprint. but you're not going to believe what a couple did with one that got them the other. >>> about 15 same-sex couples in new hampshire rang in the new year exchanging wedding vows in the cold. the state's new law legalizing same-sex marriage went into effect new year's day at midnight. couples said "i do" while strang outside the new hampshire state house in concord. others plan private ceremonies around th

american airlines is said to be cooperating with the faa while conducting its own investigation. >>> a locker room incident could cost a probasketball team much more than a game. police are investigating a reported stand-off between gilbert arenas and jabbaras crittent crittenton. the two players drew guns over a gambling debt. coach saunders discussed the distraction. >> you'd like as a coach a player who's able to totally focus on your game at hand, and when you have other things to distract off the court or whatever, those are things that you're always concerned about. but from my standpoint, and as i told our players. we still get judged on what we do as far as on the court. for the guys that are here, doing things. >> the family of the teams late owner called the incident dangerous and zpoifrnting. >>> an update tonight on the controversial firing of mike leech in an affidavit released by the university today, steve pincock said leach told him to lock the wide receiver in a dark place. he later told james he was sorry for placing him in an equipment shed. doctors diagnosed james

faa officials say they're looking to see if there is a larger issue. american says it is cooperating with the investigation. >>> a local assisted living center shutting its door due to a strange illness. several residents have come down with flu-like symptoms. no visitors are allowed for the time being. the health department says once residents start to feel betr they will lift the quarantine. >>> hundreds gathered in a church to remember an 11-year- old girl whose body was found recently. an attorney says his client db's any involvement in the crime. her loved ones can't make sense of the killing. >> how could this ever happen in the delmarva area? people are going to cry, and a lot of people have already. i know i did. >> loved ones say sarah was a bright girl that loved to joke around. there's currently three bills working their way through maryland's legislature that would beef up laws against sex offenders. >>> a prince george's county family needs help to find a pair of sisters who vanished. >> the 14-year-old and 11 years old didn't come home af

american airlines is said to be cooperating with the faa while conducting its own investigation. >>> a locker room incident could cost a pro basketball team much more than a game. police are investigating a reported stand-off between gilbert arenas and jabbaras crittenton. the "new york post" reports that the two players drew guns during a dispute over a gambling debt. arenas denies the story, but the team admits he brought handguns into the locker room. flip saunders discussed the distraction. >> you'd like as a coach a player who's able to totally focus on your game at hand, and when you have other things to distract off the court or whatever, those are things that you're always concerned about. but from my standpoint, and as i told our players, we still get judged on what we do as far as on the court for the guys that are here and doing things. >> the family of the teams late owner called the incident dangerous and disappointing. >>> an update tonight on the controversial firing of mike leach in an affidavit released by the university today. trainer steve pincock said leach told h

the faa is taking a close look at american airlines after three incidents during landings last month. a 737 overshot the runway in jamaica, and planes wing tips touched the ground during landings in charlotte and in austin. >>> tomorrow is the first business day of this new decade. after a terrible 2 0009, the bi question is, will things get better in 2010? well, nobody has a crystal ball. betsy stark has been talking to a lot of experts about some key areas in the economy. let's start with jobs. you got your hand on a not so pleasant forecast today. >> reporter: and this kind of shows you what we're up against. the federal reserve says the unemployment rate in 2010 will average between 9.3 and 9.7%, which is clearly not much improvement over what it stands now at 10%. the basic problem is, while the economy is expected to improve, it's not expected to improve enough to put a serious dent in joblessness. what may keep unemployment high is that discouraged workers may feel encouraged enough to rejoin the hunt increasing the competition for jobs out there. >> one of the bright spots has

the faa is taking a close look at american airlines after three incidents during landings last month. a 737 overshot the runway in jamaica, and planes wing tips touched the ground during landings in charlotte and in austin. >>> tomorrow is the first business day of this new decade. after a terrible 2 0009, the bi question is, will things get better in 2010? well, nobody has a crystal ball. betsy stark has been talking to a lot of experts about some key areas in the economy. let's start with jobs. you got your hand on a not so pleasant forecast today. >> reporter: and this kind of shows you what we're up against. the federal reserve says the unemployment rate in 2010 will average between 9.3 and 9.7%, which is clearly not much improvement over what it stands now at 10%. the basic probleis, while the economy is expected to improve, it's not expected to improve enough to put a serious dent in joblessness. what may keep unemployment high ishat discouraged workers may feel encouraged enough to rejoin the hunt increasing the competition for jobs out there. >> one of the bright spots has bee

talking for years now, i'm a construction engineer and we have been talking about the deficiencies in the faa in new and attacking aircraft flights in this country, we've been talking about bridges. in detroit and we just found out recently there is a number of over the water bridges that haven't been looked at as they were supposed to be in a 06, 07 and 08 and also the bridges that goes over to windsor maybe you heard about, i don't know, but it is in some questionable state. i looked at the number of bridges in this country and i believe it's in the 500,000 range and you think that if we only were to look at those bridges and investigate to what state they are in except the ones receiving a routine maintenance, just the bridges along if you were to initiate engineering contracts to have them investigated and looked at, that's going to more and then -- it would have to spread out into heavy equipment and other contracts which would lead to a suppliers. maybe that simplistic but this seems to me that would be the case and also separating source systems, improving waste treatment and water to

the faa said the carrier had three botched landings just last month. that includes the accident in kingston, jamaica, where the jet overshot the runway in a rainstorm. investigators are also looking into incidents in charlotte and austin where airplane wing tips actually touched the ground during landings. >>> when the leader of a california mega church discovered christmas donations fell very short he made a plea asking for nearly $1 million to keep saddleback church running. evangelical minister rick warren's prayer was answered in a big way. laura marquez reports. >> we met our goal, folks. we met our goal. >> reporter: their goal, and then some. $2.4 million raised in just a few days after pastor rick warren made an unusual plea on the saddleback church website. last week, warren posted a letter saying they were on target for the year. then this last weekend, the bottom dropped out. the weekly offering, less than half of what is normally received. plunging the church into the red. warren said he needed $900,000 by year's end. the donations came pou

down the entire airport but i'm just now getting a late word now it was temporarily shut down, the faa shows that it is open now, with some pretty lengthy delays. take a look at this picture out of boston logan international airport where a plane was evacuated after smoke was reported inside the cabin. this was a delta connector flight, a commuter flight, and it stopped on runway 33l. you'll notice that's like the only runway that got plowed there, because they got a lot of bad weather, as we're getting hit badly in the east with cold and ice and snow as everybody is, and that's part of the reason the runway was shut down. they didn't have a lot of options, passengers backed off that flight because of a light haze or smoke in the cabin. no injuries reported in this, and we're still trying to clarify if the plane got off the ground, because it either got off the ground and returned or the takeoff was aborted. we know the 28 passengers on board evacuated safely. this situation out of boston logan is one we're watching down here in the newsroom. jane? >> jane: harris, thanks. jon: you see

. >>> american airlines is under the faa's microscope after the carrier racked up three botched landings in less than two weeks. you're looking at video of the worse of the incidents when the jet overran a runway in jamaica injuring 91 passengers. that came just a few days after a plane slid off the side of a north carolina runway. and on christmas eve, an md-80 struck its wingtip while landing in texas. american airlines is said to be cooperating with the federal investigation. >>> what did tv anchors do during the commercial breaks? they party. i know those two guys. they are funny, funny, funny, and great people. yeah, anyway, you might be surprised. >>> also ahead for you -- calling all cars. be on the lookout for a speeding coke machine. stay with us for a coke chaser. lots of caffeine there, it looks like. >>> "the situation room" is straight ahead. suzanne malveaux is in for wolf blitzer. suzanne, what do you have for us? >> thanks, don. at the top of the hour i'll talk to a 9/11 commission member who's concerned that the u.s. intelligence community is still failing to connect the

. >>> american airlines is under the faa's microscope after the carrier racked up three botched landings in less than two weeks. you're looking at video of the worst of the incidents when a jet overran a runway in jamaica injuring 91 passengers. that came a few days after a plane slid off the side of a north carolina runway. on christmas eve, an md-80 struck its wing tip, its wing while landing in texas. american airlines is said to be cooperating with that federal investigation. >>> take a look at the beautiful skyline of new york city where temperatures are plummeting here tonight. i believe it is 14 degrees windchill and getting colder and colder and colder. there you go. that's mutual new york building right there. and the thermometer on top, temperatures in fahrenheit and celsius, 14 degrees fahrenheit and minus 9 celsius. there is the gwb, the george washington bridge. beautiful night but very cold. flags are at half-staff here. i'm going to tell you why because percy sutton was one of the nation's most prominent african-american political and business leaders during the civil righ

. >> was the faa put on alert about this, that people might be coming through airports with exclusives in their underwear? >> there was nothing that indicated aviation was a target. we were very concerned about the possible assassination attempts. so we have been taking steps as we get this information -- >> so the fa after the didn't know? >> they get all the information available to the intelligence community that relates to terrorist threats. but clearly in the case of abdulmutallab, the system didn't work the way it was designed to. >> and in conclusion, i'd like to talk about the president for one moment. three months ago on october 6th, he said this at the national counterterrorism center. listen to this. >> you are setting the standard, you're showing us what focused and integrated counterterrorism really looks like. and the record of your service is written in theed a tacks that never occur. because you thwarted them. >> on tuesday, it was a very different president obama who was a lot less complimentary about the intelligence services. listen to this. >> when our government ha

the faa is increasing oversight of american airlines after three mishaps during landings. jet liners' wing tips touched the ground in two landings. and then there was the plane that overshot the runway in jamaica and broke into pieces. officials are investigating to see if there might be a larger issue. >>> elin woods is reportedly back from a ski trip to france. elin talked every day to tiger but only about their kids. then the news of the world is reporting that when elin was asked what tiger gave her for christmas she replied, quote, $300 million. news of the world is also reporting elin did not allow tiger to see their kids because of his, quote, mental state. >>> also prince william says he will not become a shadow king. they quote his personal press secretary saying the prince will focus on his military career. >>> finally, ask and you shall receive. rick warren's plea for donations to fill a $900,000 deficit brought in a whopping $2.4 million. three days later he reached the $2.4 million mark and donations are still coming in. didn't even have to pass the plate. it'

just in the last half hour those weather-related delays have been dropped and the faa website is no longer reporting those terminal c problems. so we'll watch as this continues to develop over the next couple of hours. but regionally we have a lot of trouble, mostly because of the winds and the clouds and the snow. over an hour in boston. more than two hours at jfk. and laguardia looking at delays of an hour and 35 minutes. now, tomorrow our area of low pressure still lingering in the area, but it's going to start to loosen its grip a little bit. we think there will still be delays here across the northeast, even the mid-atlantic, but they'll be lesser, maybe 15 to 30 mibz. and then cleveland and pittsburgh due to sma-some lake effect snows, we'll talk about this weather system, what we can expect for tomorrow, as well as another arctic blast coming up a little bit later in the show. don? >> i want to get back to cnn's chief business correspondent ali velshi on board a plane at newark. ali, how much longer are you hearing now? >> reporter: we've been here for almost two hours now. flight 1

the faa is increasing oversight of american airlines after three mishaps during landings. jet liners' wing tips touched the ground in two landings. and then there was the plane that overshot the runway in jamaica and broke into pieces. officials are investigating to see if there might be a larger issue. >>> elin woods is reportedly back from a ski trip to france. elin talked every day to tiger but only about their kids. then the news of the world is reporting that when elin was asked what tiger gave her for christmas she replied, quote, $300 million. news of the world is also reporting elin did not allow tiger to see their kids because of his, quote, mental state. >>> also prince william says he will not become a shadow king. they quote his personal press secretary saying the prince will focus on his military career. >>> finally, ask and you shall receive. rick warren's plea for donations to fill a $900,000 deficit broughtn a whopping $2.4 million. three days later he reached the $2.4 million mark and donations are still coming in. didn't even have to pass the plate. it's

years now -- i'm a construction civil engineer, and we have been talking about the deficiencies of the faa and the tracking of aircraft flight in this country. we have been talking about bridges that -- here in detroit we just found out recently that m-dot found out there's a number of over the water bridges we have not been looked at as they were supposed to be, and the bridge at goes over to winsor -- maybe you heard about that -- but it's in some questionable state. and i looked at the number of bridges in this country, and i believe it's in the -- over 500,000, and you would think that if we only were to look at those bridges and investigate as to what state of -- state they're in, except for the ones receiving routine maintenance -- just the bridges alone, if you were to initiate engineering contracts to have them investigated and looked at, that's going to more than -- would have to spread out into heavy equipment and other contracts, which would lead to suppliers. maybe that's simplistic, but seems to be that would be the case, and also separating sewer systems, improving waste trea

we direct f dathe faa to alert l flights. we enhanced screening for all flights coming to the u.s. reached out to international partners, air carriers and other agencies to provide them information they needed on the ground. in our report to the president's on fixing what went wrong with it the president's report on fixing what went wrong, we have led five other areas of action. first, as this incident underscores, aviation security is increasingly an international responsibility. that is why we have a multi continent tour to meet with international counterparts about airline and airport safety. this evening, i will travel to spain to meet with the eu colleagues to discuss standards and we will include in that information sharing, technology, and other related issues. second, dhs has created a partnership with the department of energy to use their scientific expertise to improve screening technology at domestic airports. third dhs will move forward with advanced screening techniques to approve -- to improve our ability to detect the types of the closest -- the types of explosives u

we direct f dathe faa to alert l flights. we enhanced screening for all flights coming to the u.s. reached out to international partners, air carriers and other agencies to provide them information they needed on the ground. in our report to the president's on fixing what went wrong with it the president's report on fixing what went wrong, we have led five other areas of action. first, as this incident underscores, aviation security is increasingly an international responsibility. that is why we have a multi continent tour to meet with international counterparts about airline and airport safety. this evening, i will travel to spain to meet with the eu colleagues to discuss standards and we will include in that information sharing, technology, and other related issues. second, dhs has created a partnership with the department of energy to use their scientific expertise to improve screening technology at domestic airports. third dhs will move forward with advanced screening techniques to approve -- to improve our ability to detect the types of the closest -- the types of explosives u

we are working with the haitian government and with the faa and others to make sure we can sequence this properly. the airport at port-au-prince -- the good news is it is now operating at 24/7 capability, but the bad news is that it is a very limited airport with one runway and limited ram space. we are working to create a system where we can get the planes stepped down on the ground, offload cargo, of loadie that to raise that might be going on, --ç unload evacuees. a there have been occasions where we have had to hold planes because the ramp is crowded. the level of assistance is expanding. we continue toxd look atç the t and to see how we can effectively deliver, not only the personnel that are doing the work of assessing the challenge, beginning of the work on urban search and rescue, we have got medical personnel in the pipeline. some will be writing this xdevening from atlanta. yes, logistics remains a challenge because of the limited infrastructure that is available to us. >> when you say holding pla nes -- >> there been airplanes on the ramp, airplanes circling overhead and a

and we are working with the haitian government and with the faa, and others, to make sure we can sequences properly. -- six -- sequence this properly. the airport at port-au-prince is now operating at 24/7 capability. but the bad news is that it is a very limited airport. one broadway and limited ram space. -- one runway. we are working to create a system where we get the planes stacked on the ground, offload cargo, on load the evacuees. there have been occasions today where it had to hold airplanes because the ramp was crowded. this is an indication as well that obviously the level of assistance is expanding. we contied at the port in to see how we can effectively -- and to see how we can effectively deliver not only the personnel who are doing the work of assessing the challenge, beginning the work on our urban search and rescue, we have medical personnel in the pipeline. some will be writing this evening from atlanta. logistics remains a challenge. -- some will be are writing this evening from the plan. -- arriving from atlanta. during the course of the day, there have been airplanes on

we directed the faa to alert all 128 flights from europe bound for the united states of the situation. we increased security measures at domestic airports. we implemented enhanced screening for all international flights coming to the united states. we reached out to state and local law enforcement, air carriers, international partners and other relevant agencies to provide them the information they needed on the ground. in our reports to the president on what fixing -- on fixing what went wrong on christmas day, we've also outlined five other areas of action. first, as this incident underscores, aviation security is increasingly an international responsibility. that's why i dispatched deputy secretary lute and other top dhs officials on a multicontinent tour to meet with our international counterparts about airline and airport security. this evening i will travel to spain to meet with my e.u. colleagues to strengthen international security measures and standards. and we will include in that information-sharing technology and other related issues. second, dhs has created a partnership

immediately after the attack you just took steps to secure incoming and future flights to include directing faa to alert when hundred 28 incoming flights of the situation increasing security measures of domestic airports, implementing enhanced screening for all the international flights coming to the u.s. and working with state and local air carriers to provide appropriate information. in the reports to the president for guarding this attempted attack the department has outlined five key areas of action we are now addressing. first as the incidence and underscores aviation security is increasingly international responsibility the solicitor napolitano dispatched deputy secretary and myself and other officials to meet international counterparts on these issues. today secretary the public, the struggling to spain to meet with european counterparts for the discussion took to strengthen international secure aviation security measures. second, and teaches creative partnership with timmerman of energy and its national laboratories to use their scientific expertise to improve screening technology at ai

used petn, one of the things used this device, on the body and this wasn't shared he said with the faa or tsa because this was an assassination attempt in a building. it seems to me that we have all of the failure of pagination the predated the 9/11 point. suggest again, to sum this up. this was a printable phil ury and if we don't take it to be preventable failure and learn from it seems to me we will have a failure in the future that is potentially catastrophic but is catastrophic in fact. >> i think it's a close call. but is a 20/20 hindsight. paul pillar, german? >> i agree the problem i think is that was in the promise made. the promise that was made after line 11 is you give up these rights to electronic records to the patriot act, your right of privacy over those records and we will protect you through the fisa amendments, foreign intelligence surveillance act amendments. you give up privacy rights to door international communications and that is the way that we will protect you. you give us billions of dollars, give unfettered authority atingua the burden of oversight and that

immediately after the attack you just took steps to secure incoming and future flights to include directing faa to alert when hundred 28 incoming flights of the situation increasing security measures of domestic airports, implementing enhanced screening for all the international flights coming to the u.s. and working with state and local air carriers to provide appropriate information. in the reports to the president for guarding this attempted attack the department has outlined five key areas of action we are now addressing. first as the incidence and underscores aviation security is increasingly international responsibility the solicitor napolitano dispatched deputy secretary and myself and other officials to meet international counterparts on these issues. today secretary the public, the struggling to spain to meet with european counterparts for the discussion took to strengthen international secure aviation security measures. second, and teaches creative partnership with timmerman of energy and its national laboratories to use their scientific expertise to improve screening technology at ai

this information was not shared with faa and tsa that was an assess nation attempt on a building. seems to me we have much of the failure that imagination. just again to sum this up, this was a preventible failure. if we don't take it to be a preventible failure and learn from it, it seems to me we'll have a failure in the future that is not potentially catastrophic, but is catastrophic in fact. >> i think it's a close call. is it 20/20 hindsight? >> i also agree with you. the problem i think is that bunt -- wasn't the promise that was made. the promotion that promotion -- promise that was made, you give up your rights and we will protect you. you give us privacy rights to your international communication, and that's the way we'll protect. you give us billions of dollars, you give us unfeddered authority, you take away the burden of oversight. that way we'll protect you. now we find that that was all a wasted effort. that surprise, surprise, us giving up our privacy doesn't help the government actually find real terrorist. it just creates a lot of information that the government h