here is reverand jim wallace. let me introduce to you jim wallace he's the spiritual adviser to the president of the united states, that's a bad photo of him. he consults on policy however that's wear. would you want your priest writeing policy for the government? would anybody say george bush got his pastor up there writing. not good. isn't that everything the left says they are against. why suddenly for it now? because this guy has little to do with religion and everything to do with power. faith, hope and charity. i believe wholeheartedly inbjú % taking care of the poor, n][ made it a practice in my personal life to devote a percentage of my gross income to doing that jim wallace, yet another spiritual vice president of the united states, a guy who believes a lot of the stuff thatpá$ jeremiah wright does. he's a blatant redistribution of wealth advocate, a marxist. i don't want you to take my word for it. we have years and years of words of mr. wallace. let's take his words for it. >> are you calling for the

i mean, jim wallace just has a new book out. and he's calling for a national dialog literally on what kind of economics do we have? why do we have economics? you know, management people like dr. deming said the purpose of business is to serve people and make money as a result. not to make money whether you're hurting people or helping people. so can you talk about the idea of getting at the culture of not just the regulators but the culture of the organizations being regulated and get them to look at maybe it's literally anti-american to make money by hurting people? >> i guess i would go two places. the first of which is kind of humorous. joseph stiglitz was holding a panel last year and they were talking about the problems of values. and he said, rob, how do you get these speculators like back on track? and i said well, they have to discover belief in the afterlife. they have to believe that somebody is going to measure them and there's something that matters. and that they can't escape detection or they can't buy their way in

so is jim wallace the spiritual adviser here of president obama. they were in the 60s revolution. maybe you forget what happened to the 1960s radicals and their marxist efforts they lost big time, crushed, humiliated, they became a opinion. line, right dude, rock on. -- they became a punch line, right dude, rock on. how were they crushed? who crushed them. we were still coming out of the leave it to beaver years we were still relatively decent people, i think. up here, we have these two clowns and these people, this is our general society. hippies like bill ayers tossing bombs at everything. at some point they realized the tactic going to change anything. they realized they didn't have any power. see, clowerd and piven said get inside, destroy it from the inside out. get ahold as much power as you can get and get as many people on welfare as possible and collapse the system but the key ingredient was to have a structure in place. so when it comes down there's something for it to collapse into. what's the structure? what did they learn? they learned some really important lessons. t

how about the culture of what they are regulating, being looked at -- i mean, jim wallace just has a new book out and is calling for a national dialogue lederle on what kind of economics do we have. why do we have economics? you know, managing people like dr. deming used to say the purpose of business is to serve people and make money as a result, not to make money whether you're hurting people or helping people. so can you talk about the idea of getting at the culture of not just the regulators, but the culture of the organization be regulated and get them to look at maybe the literally anti-american to make money by hurting people. >> i guess i would go to two places. the first which is kind of humorous. joseph stiglitz was holding a panel last year and we were talking about the problems of values here and he said rob, how do you get the speculators back on the track? and i said well, they have to discover belief in the afterlife. [laughter] they have to believe that somebody is going to measure them and their something that matters and that they can't escape detection or can't buy

wallace from a magazine, a lot of evangelical and catholics, the former society general secretary of the -- associate general secretary of the conference of the catholic bishops saying that this senate health bill upholds abortion funding restrictions. the catholic health association, 600 catholic hospitals. i went to catholic school for 12 years. i know where the catholic church and the catholic hospitals stand on the issue of public funding for abortion. and believe me, believe me, i had a lot of nuns and a lot of priests and a lot of brothers going to our lady of mount carmel and i will tell you that those nuns and those administrators who run catholic hospitals, 600 of them, would not support this legislation if they believed that there was public funding for abortion. and i think the head of the catholic hospitals said that, we're all pro-life but they believe that the language in the senate bill, some of the language that we kicked around here early on in the house version, will sufficiently prevent public funds for being used for abortions. that's 600 catholic hospitals saying

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