that being said, with an outside and within al-qaeda -- within al-qaeda and al qaeda they continue to make small-scale weapons, including biological. the interest is still there. the level of sophistication has diminished because of our action in pakistan. is that a permitted follow up? on the formal, nuclear front, we have diminished their ability. it requires some infrastructure, although less than we might imagine. certainly on the radiological dispersal device -- something that disperses radiological material without producing yield -- it is a pretty simple tool. i'm not just worried about our credit in pakistan or yemen developing that capability. -- about al qaeda in pakistan or yemen developing that capability. that is something we have with homegrown terrorists. >> i was wondering, what is the current situation as far as the syrian border and out paid operatives -- al qaeda operatives? as far as the upcoming trial of the sheik, how do you do that in relation to the operations of al qaeda? >> we have made incredible success on the syrian border. the fact that it is barely menti

we're going to relentlesy attack al qaeda. we're going to build the afghan and pakistani capability to carry on once we pull out of there. so i think if you look at those three points that the president outlined, sir, that outlined the overarching strategy. obviously we have a military and a political component to our strategy, and the military is well integrated and increasingly well integrain integrated with civilian component, something that i probably could not have said so strongly a year ago, but we've made a lot of progress, sir. >> with regard to this end state, one of thehings that strikes me as the most critical is building afghanistany capacity in the most -- they have to build security forces. both afghan national and afghan poce. is that your view also? >> yes, sir. absolutely. >> do you have a -- an assessment initially about how well we're doing? i must confess over the last eight years, the record of building afghany security forces has been not even mixed. it's been hit and miss, start and stop. do you believe

now, the al qaeda is aligned, is pa of e hakani network, if that could be separated from al qaeda, then there would be some progress and i think maybe what the americans are talking to the pakastanis about is, can you help us? can you separate the hakanis from al qaeda? i think it is a tall order, but maybe they are trying. >> rose: let me make sure i understand this. the united states government's official position is we are only here because of al qaeda? >> i think i it has to be the bottom line otherwise the united states will be infghanistan forever, how are we ever going to build a country that is basically very, very lacking in development, itakes hundreds of years for the united states to be there to build the so-called nation. i don't think that is on the table. i mean you may disagree. >> rose: do you, eric? >> no, i think that is basically what it is, what you have is the president basically outlined his commitment to with go after al qaeda but the problem is al qaeda is in pakistan, it is in the tribal areas, of pakistan right now the united states has got a couple of options

now, the al qaeda is aligned, is part of the hakani network, if that could be separated from al qaeda, then there would be some progress and i think maybe what the americans are talking to the pakastanis about is, can you help us? can you separate the hakanis from al qaeda? i think it is a tall order, but maybe they are trying. >> rose: let me make sure i understand this. the united states government's official position is we are only here because of al qaeda? >> i think i it has to be the bottom line otherwise the united states will be in afghanistan forever, how are we ever going to build a country that is basically very, very lacking in development, it takes hundreds of years for the united states to be there to build the so-called nation. i don't think that is on the table. i mean you may disagree. >> rose: do you, eric? >> no, i think that is basically what it is, what you have is the president basically outlined his commitment to with go after al qaeda but the problem is al qaeda is in pakistan, it is in the tribal areas, of pakistan right now the united states has got a couple

we were attacked in 9/11 by al qaeda. al qaeda bases in afghanistan and makes sense to destroy those bases and we did. but the bases are no longer there, but in pakistan, yemen and somalia and we aren't invading those countries. why do we in-- go in that country. we have no ability nor necessity to win it for one side or the other. this idea of countersnurs that we are going to persuade the people left alive to love the government we like is absurd. at this point, we must recognize rebuilding afghanistan is beyond our ability and prevents our ability to protect the united states. we should support our amendment, support our troops and bring them home now. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. who seeks recognition? the gentlewoman from california is recognized. mr. lewis: let me begin my reminding the members that this supplemental originally was sent to us by our commander in chief, the president of the united states, barack obama. i understand the concerns about the wa

>> there is no question that the taliban, al-qaeda, and others will be reading these reports. there is no question in my mind that creates a vulnerability. >> these thousands of documents are like pixels that form one clear picture. the white house as a point that this is about the past, but they have chosen to emphasize how difficult it will be to create a different future. bbc news, washington. >> now the bbc understands the chief executive of bp, savagely criticized for the gulf of mexico oil spill, is to leave his post with a pension worth more than $900,000 a year and a leading payment of around $1.5 million. he is leading by mutual agreement. is he contractually entitled to those terms? the board agreed to replace them with the american bob dudley who is currently heading the response team in the gulf. our business editor broke the story. >> at this man is not being sacked. tony hayward is leaving by mutual agreement. the board has been clear it has to honor its contractual entitlements you tony hayward. he has worked for bp for 28 years. as a long serving member of the

in afghanistan at that time, it was al qaeda and those who chose to side with al qaeda. there were many taliban leaders who are now part of the government because they risked chaka this and they said, we think we will go with our afghan brothers -- the risk calculus and they said, we think will go with our afghan brothers and not al qaeda. it is important that we define the enemy and are very nuanced in our response, which is hard for tte u.s. to do because of our power in the conventional military. we love blunt force trauma because we are so good at it. in this conflict, the more precise, the more nuanced, the more you develop local networks, trusted networks, and have them be the victors, that is how you succeed in this kind of war. >> what do you think? what the international response would be to 9/11, take two. >> i think it is unlikely to the military response. it is all about perception and domestic support. and i think that clearly so soon after iraq and afghan campaigns, which continue, i think the international community would be very wary of even believing it

for those that say we must pay it because we are going after al qaeda, afghanistan is where al qaeda used to beat off. today there are fewer than 100 al qaeda in afghanistan, which was confirmed last night -- last month by the cia chief. they have relocated to other countries and regions. i yield myself an addional minute. i have the utmost respect for our troops, who have done everything asked of them. but they are being let down by the inability of the government of afghanistan and in some instances, pakistan, to do their part. i would be willing to support additional war funding provided that congress would vote, up or down, explicitly on whether or not to continue this policy after a new national intelligence estimate is produced. absent that discipline, i cannot but my constituentsin the eye to say that this operation will hurt our enemies more than their hurts us -- more than it hurts us. >> i am confident that they will be able to complete their mission in afghanistan. the president did remind us why we are in afghanistan. it was the eicenter of where al qaeda planned the 9/11

for those that say we must pay it because we are going after al qaeda, afghanistan is where al qaeda used to beat off. today there are fewer than 100 al qaeda in afghanistan, which was confirmed last night -- last month by the cia chief. they have relocated to other countries and regions. i yield myself an additional minute. i have the utmost respect for our troops, who have done everything asked of them. but they are being let down by the inability of the government of afghanistan and in some instances, pakistan, to do their part. i would be willing to support additional war funding provided that congress would vote, up or down, explicitly on whether or not to continue this policy after a new national intelligence estimate is produced. absent that discipline, i cannot but my constituents in the eye to say that this operation will hurt our enemies more than their hurts us -- more than it hurts us. >> i am confident that they will be able to complete their mission in afghanistan. the president did remind us why we are in afghanistan. it was the epicenter of where al qaeda planned the

al qaeda had training camps. they were protected by the taliban and some of those camps came attack upon new york city and washington d.c.. we went to war because the taliban refused to cough up the al qaeda camp, and that began the war that we are discussing today. now, let me just say that essentially many americans, reading about al qaeda currently, would say that a good number of al qaeda probably reside in pakistan and therefore, they would accept the fact that the two countries have to be considered together, but even beyond that, "the new york times" had a sunday story in a magazine about yemen. the suggestion was that all things considered that might be the place al qaeda camps can situate in the future because of all the complex and the difficulties and the remoteness and so forth. others have suggested somalia from time to time, because the lack of governance held together perhaps by intruding forces from around the neighboring states and the point that i am making is that we started in afghanistan beca

sarkozy spoke only of cold-blooded murder. >> our compatriot taken by al qaeda, and held hostage. i condemn this barbarous act against innocent victim. >> the president has since held meetings with top security officials and urged his countrymen not to travel in the region where lawless border area exists. he had this morning for the terrorists. >> my dear countrymen, the crime committed will not remain unpunished. >> there has been an increasing of kidnappings of foreigners, bandits and smugglers who have long operated in the region are developing closer links with al qaeda. still holding two spanish hostages even now, concerns for their safety will undoubtedly grow. >> the latest headlines for you, pakistan as denying accusations that it leaked papers that its intelligence agency actively supported militants in afghanistan. bbc understands that the chief of bp is to step down on the first of october with an annual pension of $900,000 and a payoff of 1.5 million. while bp considers the succession at its top levels, more goes on at the service of the sea, efforts to plug the leak

neighbors can't believe chesser, a former high school athlete, wanted to join al shabaab, the al qaeda affiliated terrorist group based in somalia. the same group suspected in the recent bombings in uganda that killed 73 soccer fans. >> i'm just shocked. i'm surprised. not the kind of thing i would have expected in this neighborhood. >> reporter: abc news has learned chesser is 1 of 34 americans charged and accused of ties to international terrorists in the past 18 months. law enforcement sources tell abc news the trend represents an unprecedented spike in home-grown terror that has them deeply concerned. >> the last six to nine months has seen more fbi activity in this country against radical islamists than the days immediately after 9/11. >> reporter: some of those charged are well-known, like faisal shahzad, convicted of trying to blow up a car in times square. others barely made headlines. brian vinas, accused of attacking a u.s. military base in afghanistan, and providing al qaeda with details about new york's rail system. many, including chesser, allegedly used the internet to co

want the taliban and al qaeda to know that they have a significant advantage on the battlefield? it doesn't serve u.s. tactical operational or even strategic interests in the war. >> couric: also mentioned in these documents is the number of afghan civilians who have been killed. how do you think this will damage the war effort? >> well, the issue of civilian casualties is a major one. the u.s. has taken a lot of criticism because of this. however, what's interesting to note that is according to the documents, 195 afghan civilians have been killed. but also according to the documents 2,000 afghan civilians have been killed by the taliban which is more than 10 times the number said to be killed by u.s. and nato forces. very little is being made of that. the coverage would indicate that it's more of an issue for the u.s. to kill afghan civilians than it is for the taliban to do so. >> couric: thanks very much. and now let's go to chip reid at the white house. as we mentioned the white house seems to be downplaying these documents. why is that the case in your view? >> well, katie,

now, we know that al qaeda and those al qaeda-inspired terrorists, not necessarily tied to al qaeda, but inspired, exists all over the world. we recognize that. but we also have to, mr. speaker, realize that pakistan, this day, continues to be ground zero. as i said, the po rouse border with afghanistan provided an invitation for al qaeda in afghanistan to move into pakistan. as we look at the difficulty that exists for decades -- that exists. for decades there have been problems with the i.s.i. i just mentioned in a private discussion i had with my friend from cleveland that i remember vividly in the 1980's, 1987 to be exact, when i had the opportunity to travel with our former colleague, the late charlie wilson who took me to pakistan and at that time, we witnessed problem within the i.s.i., but the fact that there are problems within the i.s.i., appropriately, we saw -- well, appropriately or inappropriately, i mean, the leaks that came out, i know there are more than a few who believe this could jeopardize the lives of our fellow americans who are over there, but the fact of the

al qaeda leaders in yemen, somalia, sudan. everywhere except afghanistan we do not send in 100,000 troops on the ground. we work with indigenous government and other operations cooperative lead to objection, amended. the unfinished business is the question on suspending the rules and agreeing to h.con.res 290, which the clerk will report by title. the clerk: house concurrent resolution 290, concurrent solution expressing support f designation of june 30 as national esign day. the speaker pro tempore: the queson is will the house suspend the rules and agree to the concurrent resolution. so many as are in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, 2/3 having responded in the affirmative, the rules are suspended -- >> madam speaker. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california rise? >> request a recorded vote. the speaker pro tempore: a recorded vote is requested. all those in favor of taking this vote by the -- those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and b

al qaeda is already there. if it is pushed out of afghanistan, it will merely go to yemen and strengthen its forces there. >> the right honorable gentleman makes a very powerful point, with which i agree strongly. i have had many bilateral meetings with other foreign ministers during the kabul conference, and that was a regular subject. indeed, my right honorable friend the defense secretary and i have spent most of the morning with the italian foreign and defense ministers, and yemen was high on our agenda, as was somalia, on which the italians have particular expertise. we will try to make sure over the coming months that we reinvigorate the friends of yemen process launched by the right honorable member for south shields, and i fully take the point made by the right honorable member for leicester east. >> rehman chishti. >> may i commend the foreign secretary on the role that he played at the kabul conference, and ask him what proportion of the taliban are afghan, and what proportion are from outside afghani

within pakistan, with more than half of al qaeda senior leaders being killed or captured. the pakistani military has undertaken offenses in two provinces, putting sustained pressure on violent military groups. the u.s. and pakistan have also commenced a strategic dialogue which has expanded cooperation on a wide range of critical issues. even with these positive trends, the you us must continue to -- the u.s. must continue to press the pakistani government particularly its military and intelligence services to continue their strategic shift against extremists and stay on the offensive. mr. speaker, the u.s. needs to maintain the purpose in pakistan and i therefore urge the defeat of this dangerous resolution. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. the gentleman from ohio. mr. kucinich: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material into the record on house concurrent resolution 301. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. kucini

they have a very close working relationship with al qaeda. they will not agree to give up violence and integrate into the society. >> reporter: all of this after clinton spent two days in neighboring pakistan urging its government to go after the taliban and al qaeda. she also expressed frustration at widespread resentment by pakistanis against america even as she brought $500 million in new aid. >> the idea to, say, an unemployed autoworker or a laid off secretary somewhere in the united states that the aid we provide to a country may not be appreciated raises the question in their minds, why are you sending money to a country that doesn't want it? >> reporter: and tonight's blast only underscores how hard it's going to be for tomorrow's summit conference here to prove that the war strategy is working. brian? >> andrea mitchell in kabul. we'll talk to you again tomorrow night. andrea, thanks. >>> when we continue here in just a moment, new protection for women. what's being called a breakthrough in the fight against a deadly disease. later,

an al qaeda plot to blow up transatlantic flights in 2006. and the plot by najibullah zazi to bomb new york subways. >> there have been dozens of attacks, plots, terrorist networks that have been not only discovered but foiled in the post-9/11 world. >> reporter: now, the government insists some of the redundancies are necessary, but there is wide agreement the system has gotten too big. the challenge now is to cut the waste without increasing the risk. katie? >> couric: bob, of course, the big issue surfaced after 9/11 was that all the various intelligence agencies weren't sharing information. has that improved? >> reporter: it has. many cases find the agencies sharing very effectively. there was a clear failure, of course, at fort hood. the biggest problem now, though is the sheer crush of information. so much is being collected that analysts are increasingly challenged to sort through the noise to find the leads and a clogged system is a threat in its own right. katie? >> couric: bob orr in washington. thanks so much, bob. meanwhile, you m

al qaeda, is very llw on the list. you can see resources flowing in. maybe that is not such a bad thing. they are playing it up and playing it down. i m not trying to be too simple. >> you mentioned ttat he was paddcaaized mooe so in london, where he was a university sttdent. more so than in yemee. the rest of eerope.+%--phow wwes counterterrorism between the u.s. and europe today? >>>i think it is pretty good. there is a close relationship between the american ageecies predates /11 by a very long time. clearly, everyone is trying to promote heii own interests. in the relationship has to recoggize the interest of the other side. whether you are talking about countries, you are bound tt see an instance of interest. when it goes beyond that, it becomes more omplicated. ttis world of counterterrorrss, puropeans, you can pretty mmuh rely oo ittseeing things tte same way. complicated relationship to%+ maaage. is all very well that u.s.-u.k., perspective. that is not enough. >> some pretty big gaps in other countries. thereeis a sense of entitlement+ a cultu

we're taking out significant numbers of the leadership in al qaeda. and we are in the process, which is painfully slow and difficult, of training up afghani forces to put them in a position to deal with their own insurgents. there's a real attempt and a policy of trying figure out how to reconcile those many the taliban who are doing it for the pay into the government of afghanistan. all this is just beginning. and we knew it's going to be a tough slog. but i think that it's much too premature to make a judgment until the military says we should look at it, which is in december. >> there was a recent incident with the commanding general, now the ex-commanding general. in afghanistan, stanley mcchrystal. i just wondered, since you were one of the people mentioned disparagingly, by his aides -- i know he called you to apologize -- >> he did. >> i'm wondering, what was your reaction? >> i didn't take it personally at all. compared to what happens in politics, that was a piece of cake. i was the enemy. i wasn't the clown. i was the guy that was, in fact,

when we get a beat on an al qaeda leader we attack with a drone. i think that the special forces are going on raids and those raids often become bloody. now that's war. that's not targeted assassination. >> brown: what do you make of that, steve coll, more detail on those kinds of operations. >> well, we've known since 9/11 that much of the eastern and southern afghanistan operations have been turned over to a combination of u.s. special forces and cia para mill tarees and that their main mission has been to identify, capture or kill taliban leaders so i don't think in principal the mission is surprising. i think it's useful to see it in its specificity to understand its complexity, the nature of the mistakes that are made, the consequences of those mistakes with the broader strategy of persuading afghans that the international community is still a constructive partner of their efforts to reclaim their country. but the basic idea that we're out there shooting bad guys in eastern afghanistan doesn't strike me as new. >> brown: and steve coll, just t

a pre-dawn swoop across the country the latest in a string of raids against al qaeda suspects police have been on alert in fact since the turkish cell of a terrorist group carried out suicide bombers in two thousand and three killing sixty people in istanbul. looking ahead a global terror tactic on wheels or r t special report looks into the bloody history of car bombings. special report here on r.t. coming up in ten minutes first though business news tonight kareena is here after a very quick break. for the full story we've gone to. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers. every month we give you the future we help you understand how we'll get there and. the best unsanctioned technology from across russia and around the world. join us our technology update on our g. hello and welcome to our business program it's good to have you with spoke garry and russia expected to saya details agreement on the south stream gas pipeline when discussions conclude in sufi at the deal with effectively be a road map of how the two countries will move forward the next st

during a predawn sweep across the country the latest in a string of raids against al qaeda suspects police have been on alert in fact since a turkish cell of the terrorist group suicide bombings like two thousand and three killing sixty people in istanbul. sixty five years ago a mushroom cloud in the new mexico desert showed that the u.s. had won the race to produce a nuclear weapon but soviet scientists harnessing the destructive power of the some weren't far behind testing their own bomb four years later and their success shaped global politics to this day he's done his polaski explores the relics of the u.s.s.r. push nuclear supremacy. it was the culmination of the manhattan project the first american nuclear explosive device nicknamed the gadget went off in new mexico just weeks before devastating the japanese city of hiroshima many including the godfather of the atomic bomb j. robert oppenheimer were terrified by the power of the deadly marsh room. both people were spared the echo of that blast carried far beyond the atlantic and the soviet union experiments with nuclear energy

so you're telling me that al qaeda didn't do 9/11? is that what you're saying? >> yeah. >> we all know that al qaeda was created by the c.i.a. >> stahl: he was saying it was the c.i.a. that told osama bin laden to attack on 9/11. we don't... we attacked our own pentagon and the world trade center to have a justification to go into afghanistan? do you really believe that? >> yeah, yeah, i do. >> stahl: they believe we attacked ourselves so we could go to afghanistan and kill muslims. what i'm sensing is that there is an enormous amount of anti- americanism, am i right? >> give us one single reason to love america, and we will forget about the rest of the millions of reasons to hate america. >> stahl: after a statement like that, you begin to question whether even a former extremist can uproot the idea here that the west is out to destroy islam. you're one person, and you're kind of blowing into the wind. it's almost like don quixote... >> nawaz: right. >> stahl: ... tilting at windmills. >> nawaz: there are people who are as frustrated as we are with extremism in

it would be like spraying salt water on al qaeda i think al qaeda would start to wither because the idea of injustice is what feeds these vicious warriors in afghanistan in pakistan in iraq and at the center of that is the belief in much of the muslim world which down of course will disagree with that israel is in effect a state of the united states and that israel is a colonizing power and that therefore america is but i've just got one question to come back to why is israel building more colonies for jews and jews only on land that does not belong to it the west bank was never israeli it's not acknowledged as israeli by the international community that's why all the embassies including the american embassy is in turkey so why does it go on building these massive colonies on arab land all right dan go ahead why why does it it do. first of all i have to correct you mr fyshe israel as you know is a scholar of the middle east that the land you cannot have an occupied land a when israel has had a two thousand year connection to that land and b. when mr arafat himself and mr rabin signed a b

it'd be like spraying water and al qaeda i think al qaeda would start to wither because the idea of injustice is what feeds these vicious warriors in afghanistan in pakistan in iraq and at the center of that is the belief in much of the muslim world which down of course will disagree with that israel is in effect a state of the united states and that israel is a colonizing power and that therefore america is but i've just got one question to come back to why is israel building more colonies for jews and jews only on land that does not belong to it the west bank was never israeli it's not acknowledged as israeli by the international community that's why all the embassies including the american embassy is entirely so why does it go on building these massive colonies on arab land all right dan go ahead why why does it it do. first of all i have to correct you mr fyshe israel as you know is a scholar of the middle east that the land you cannot have an occupied land a when israel has had a two thousand year connection to that land and b. when mr arafat himself and mr rabin signed a bilateral agree

it'd be like spraying salt water and al qaeda i think al qaeda would start to wither because the idea of injustice is what feeds these vicious warriors in afghanistan in pakistan in iraq and at the center of that is the belief in much of the muslim world which down of course will disagree with that israel is in effect a state of the united states and that israel is a colonizing power and that therefore america is but i've just got one question to come back to why is israel building more colonies for jews and jews only on land that does not belong to it the west bank was never israeli it's not acknowledged as israeli by the international community that's why all the embassies including the american embassy is in turkey so why does it go on building these massive colonies on arab land all right dan go ahead why why does it it do. first of all i have to correct you mr fyshe israel as you know is a scholar of the middle east that the land you cannot have an occupied land a when israel has had a two thousand year connection to that land and b. when mr arafat himself and mr rabin signed a b

it would be like spraying salt water and al qaeda i think al qaeda would start to wither because the idea of injustice is what feeds these vicious warriors in afghanistan in pakistan in iraq and at the center of that is the belief in much of the muslim world which down of course will disagree with that israel is in effect a state of the united states and that israel is a colonizing power and that therefore america is but i just got one question to come back to why is israel building more colonies for jews and jews only on land that does not belong to it the west bank was never israeli it's not acknowledged as israeli by the international community that's why all the embassies including the american embassy is in turkey so why does it go on building these massive colonies on arab land all right dan go ahead why why does it it do. first of all i have to correct you mr fyshe israel as you know is a scholar of the middle east that the land you cannot have an occupied land a when israel has had a two thousand year connection to that land and b. when mr arafat himself and mr rabin signed a

it'd be like spraying salt water and al qaeda i think al qaeda would start to wither because the idea of injustice is what feeds these vicious warriors in afghanistan in pakistan in iraq and at the center of that is the belief in much of the muslim world which down of course will disagree with that israel is in effect a state of the united states and that israel is a colonizing power and that therefore america is but i've just got one question to come back to why is israel building more colonies for jews and jews only on land that does not belong to it the west bank was never israeli it's not acknowledged as israeli by the international community that's why all the embassies including the american embassy is entirely so why does it go on building these massive colonies on arab land all right dan go ahead why why does it it do. first of all i have to correct you mr fyshe israel as you know is a scholar of the middle east that the land you cannot have an occupied land a when israel has had a two thousand year connection to that land and the when mr arafat himself and mr rabin signed a b

al qaeda, not al shabab. they are a very strict form of islam that they do not want. they want to go to the movies. they want to sing and dance. they want to watch and play soccer. the women do not want to yield -- dinallo to be unveiled a 100%. they will reject them. host: philadelphia, pa. on our independent line. caller: this could be a comment or question. i know you mentioned a lot that the u.s. has not played a capitalistic or imperial power and leave -- power in africa. no one is discussing the fact that the u.s. propped up the dictatorships, as the ethiopian people say, who oppress the people as long as they were in favor of u.s. foreign policy. he gets how many millions if not billions of u.s. aid and he has an iron fist as far as a pressing the right of anything, any opposition. the list can go on. why is it a hypocritical statement policy as far as the democracy, the people can have what they want, they can have this, they need a government. when it happens in gaza and they say they want is long an

we were attacked in 9/11 by al qaeda. al qaeda bases in afghanistan and kes sense to destroyhose bas and we did. but the bases are no longer there, but in pakistan, yemen and somalia and we aren't invading those countries. why do we in-- go in that country. we have no ability nor necessity to win it for one side or the other. this idea of countersnurs that we are going to persuade the people left alive to love the government we like is absurd. at this point, we must recognize rebuilding afghanistan is beyond our ability and prevents our ability to protect the united states. we should support our amendment, support our troops and bring them home now. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. who seeks recognition? the gentlewoman from california is recognized. mr. lewis: let me begin my reminding the members that this supplemental originally was sent to us by our commander in chief the president of the united states, barack obama. i understand the concerns about the war in af

his pieces is, if al-qaeda or the enemy -- his thesis is that if al-qaeda or the enemy knows that there is a backup system, systems forer finance, energy or transportation, if they know that within hours of taking down that system a backup system will be in place, that takes away a lot of incentive for shutting that system down. i think that applies across the board. we cannot have duplicates systems for everything in this country. separate hospitals to replace this one if they get blown up or whatever, but there is a lot to be said for having the capability to put that down capability back in operation locally, nationally or wherever as a means of deterring people who try to destroy it. . . there animes depend on those systems of lot more than they do -- their enemies depend on those systems. in terms of preparation, this is talent. bob gramm would probably agree with this. why they are not finding it. we have two programs. they are getting funded 10% of what they should be. incredibly frustrating. we don't have a -- there are a lot of good state and local systems for health reporting,

his pieces is, if al-qaeda or the enemy -- his thesis is that if al-qaeda or the enemy knows that there is a backup system, systems forer finance, energy or transportation, if they know that within hours of taking down that system a backup system will be in place, that takes away a lot of incentive for shutting that system down. i think that applies across the board. we cannot have duplicates systems for everything in this country. separate hospitals to replace this one if they get blown up or whatever, but there is a lot to be said for having the capability to put that down capability back in operation locally, nationally or wherever as a means of deterring people who try to destroy it. . . there animes depend on those systems of lot more than they do -- their enemies depend on those systems. in terms of preparation, this is talent. bob gramm would probably agree with this. why they are not finding it. we have two programs. they are getting funded 10% of what they should be. incredibly frustrating. we don't have a -- there are a lot of good state and local systems for health reporting,

militants are linked to al qaeda. in the wider world, their notoriety stems from piracy. they have held to ransom a large number of private and commercial ships. world and regional powers say al-shabaab represents a growing terrorist threat, but there is concern of bigger military drive against the male may draw more troops. -- may only draw more troops. >> more than half of the country of peru is in a state of emergency as some areas mated to 23 degrees below zero. -- reached 23 degrees below zero. >> this is a regular occurrence. every winter hundreds of people died, mostly from pneumonia. especially people living in rural areas, above 3,000 meters, above sea level, and those people are often living in poverty. they have poor conditions, and many suffer from chronic malnutrition. i spoke to an official who confirmed the figures and said 70% of those who died are children under the age of five, children who suffer from malnutrition and do not have the immunities to fight off diseases like pneumonia, which is the big killer at this time of year. >> they are really struggl

this is where al qaeda also operates. osama bin laden may be here somewhere. in a mansion which has scarcely changed since the days of the raj, the governor of the provinces starting to take over the trouble areas where various extremist groups operate. >> one of the major ingredients of success has been the fact that over the past two years, the local people in the province who were favorably inclined toward these outfits have turned against them. >> but at the very moment when pakistan is successfully cracking down on its own taliban group, it stands accused of helping the afghan taliban. >> the taliban were able to show their strength and the pakistani parties started looking at the taliban as one of the future options for them to support in afghanistan. >> in other words, pakistan thinks the taliban are winning. at a taliban -- a taliban- controlled afghanistan might be your family to pakistan and the present government there is. >> of the american senator connected to the lockerbie bombing says he may send investigators to britain to investigate whether b