>> rose: 300 million people in china? >> in china. there are people learning to speak chinese also, but small numbers. also growing number, but still rather small. the point is, america really does not understand china well enough. >> rose: we continue this evening with a look at mongolia and a conversation with its prime minister, sukhbaatar batbold. >> this is a good time and especially with given strength and advantages we have like rich mineral resources and strong neighbor... china is a market and opportunity and is emerging market i think with this tree sort of big advantages, mongolia has got a strong possibility to develop and now we have the challenge and especially for my government we have a coalition government and how do we deal with these advantages and also the certain difficulties or challenges which might come from the mineral development, this would be the issue for us. >> rose: china and mongolia next. words alone aren't enough. our job is to listen and find ways to help workers who lost their jobs to the spill. i'm

how much it supports dealing with china and trading with china you seem to be very positive about china coming from europe you're coming from europe you're coming from the u.s. do you think china is misrepresented in the world yes or no you know there are things in china that are not good at all and that absolutely need to be changed and will change over time especially with the new generation coming up that has a much lower tolerance on. strict surratt authorities but what needs to be done is to also report the good things about china the many things where china really has made enormous progress and that not only in economics but also it is on the way through change its in its political structure in its social economic system i think i think good biggest problem with reporting in the western press about china is that there's mines. about communist china and peoples they always say in the western press the communist government of china. well the communist government of china china isn't what it used to be but there's this mindset about what it probably is and that shapes everything abou

my zation of china. thank. very much to you both for joining us now i'll start with you mr nesbitt now you first visited china about forty years ago and obviously a lot has changed now what is the post dramatic or surprising change that you've seen well in nineteen sixty seven when i first read there was china is very primitive really very poor. pretty discouraging place the big change is the people now that people are so energetic. the so so excited about china and what's happening what's happening their own lives and that is a huge huge area with people are obviously the people who are in politics or who are in government. businesses and so on so that every level whatever they're doing very very or more excitement more energy and of course physical. appearance in china just gone from that primitive third world look to the most modern country in the world. the country with the most modern cities in the world having said that now thirty years ago china was track one hundred thirty seven in terms of g.d.p. and t

is now the chair of you know china you've got you can count on china to do what is best for china and. in all these regards and china is not it's so preoccupied with its own growth. that it's not it's not spending very much time thinking about you know does it connects you with joining the world and also in connection with natural resources that africa has been doing really when when policy their personal but not it was ready when an african would say that a lot versus what the rest is done with if they are now fair government to government and all that we know what's what's happening there but china doesn't also spend too much of its time worrying about russia. there is the you know we have the new one because you just have to worry about right no one doesn't have to worry about russia it doesn't worry that much about the u.s. china is preoccupied with two with developing china and they've got a long way to go and it's so interesting to us that the people who are articulate the problems of china most fervently are the chinese i mean they talk and the biggest problem in china by far i

government of china . well recovery is going to turn it is that what it used to be but there's this money. he said about what it probably years that shakes to everything about china and it gives a very distorted picture this is a very modern society where there's a lot of participation in the. people obviously the point is there's a there's a social and personal freedom in china that there's never been before in the history of china and that freedom as allowed the people to contribute to the whole and to create. an ever greater and more prosperous society and speaking of prosperous they are indeed getting very prosperous these days and in fact the government the chinese government has been trying to cool the economy because of. overheating supposedly overheating do you think there is an overheating of the stock market and the property market and you think it's going to person possibly be another us incident well i think we're i think the whole world is a little too focused on the crisis of the cooling of t

is now the chair of you know china you've got you can tell china to do what is best for china and. in all these regards then china is not it's so preoccupied with its own growth. it is not it's not spending very much time thinking about you know does it connects you with joining the world and also in connection with natural resources that africa has been doing really when when policy there versatile but not it was ready when an africa would say that well a lot versus what the rest is done with that they are now fair government to government although we know what's happening there but china doesn't also. spends too much of his time worrying about russia. there is the year we have the new one because it will have to worry about radio or doesn't have to worry about russia it doesn't worry that much about the us china is preoccupied with two with developing china and they've got a long way to go and it's so interesting you us that the people who are articulate the problems of china most fervently are the chinese i mean they talk and the biggest problem in china by far is the growing le

china's military buildup, north korea, taiwan, and climate change, are now all on the agenda. >> china wants to avoid real security crises. on the other hand, also, i think, it does aspire to be a great power in a very full way. >> how will dialogue between the u.s. and china shape the coming decade? next, on great decisions. >> in a democracy, agreement is not essential, but participation is. join us as we discuss today's most critical global issues. join us as we discuss today's most critical global issues. join us for great decisions. [instrumental music] >> great decisions is produced by the foreign policy association, inspiring americans to learn more about the world. funding for great decisions is provided by the carnegie corporation of new york, the starr foundation, shell international and the european commission. great decisions is produced in association with the university of delaware. >> and now from our studios, here is ralph begleiter. >> welcome to great decisions, i'm ralph begleiter. joining us to discuss u.s./china relations and the rise of china's military, are david

and that does have to do with china. >> china is boosting its military presence in the east asian seas. both the united states and asean are keen to contain any possible threat as for the fight over the senkaku islands, the focus of public attention has now shifted to what the japanese government will do next. >>> foreign minister, seiji maehara has urged naoto kan to insure the safety of four japanese nationals detained in the country. the minister summoned the chinese ambassador on monday. he requested that japanese diplomats be allowed to continue to see the detainees. seiji maehara also asked for meetings with the four and attorneys. chen reportedly said he would convey the request to the chinese government. the four are employees of refugee eata, a construction firm and its subsidiary. they have been detained since september 20th, for allegedly filming military facilities without permission, in hube province. japanese diplomats were allowed to meet th them for the first time on saturd. >>> in beijing, china's foreign ministry has refused to meet with the japanese ambassador to dis

china and. in all these regards in china it is not it's so preoccupied with its own growth. it's not it's not spending very much time thinking about you know does it connects you with joining the world and also in connection with natural resources of africa and has been doing really when when policy there versus not it was ready when an african would say that well a lot versus what the rest is done with that they are now fair government to government although we know what's what's happening there but china doesn't also spend too much of its time worrying about russia. there is the you know we have the new one because you don't have to worry about right no one doesn't have to worry about russia it doesn't worry that much about the u.s. china is preoccupied with two with developing china and they've got a long way to go and it's so interesting to us that the people who are articulate the problems of china most fervently are the chinese i mean they talk and the biggest problem in china by far is th

has with china, with the european union. but the potential is huge. >> rose: and we conclude with one of the most interesting entrepreneurs in all of china, he is jack ma. his company is alled alibaba. >> core competence of our companies, we have 20,000, grow from 18 people, now 20,000 people. and we focus a lot on the making sure the culture, everybody works for helping others instead of just making money. and we believe different from wall street, we believe customer number one, employee two, shareholder three. >> rose: customer one, employee, two, shareholder three? >> yes, again, this is my religion. >> rose: russia and the world, china and technology when we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: president obama came to office promising to reset relations with russia. he and russian president dmitry medvedev appeared to form a personal bond. they have since signed a nuclear arms reduction treaty-- now waiting to be ratified by the u.s. sena

china has territorial disputes between several southeast asian nations over islands in the south china sea and has sent surveillance ships there. the japanese government has called on china to respond calmly to the recent arrest of the fishing boat's captain. >> translator: the most important thing is to find a way to build a mutually beneficial relationship with china, a major neighbor with an economy that's growing ever stronger. >> joining us now, an nhk executive commentator. does japan's decision to release the chinese captain mean the problem's been resolved? >> well, china has only said it will suspend the high official exchange as a countermeasure but it may now redraft this. it seems certain that the bilateral relation won't strain any further. but unless japan exchange -- but unless japan changes its position that no territorial dispute existing in the east china sea, china will remain distrustful of japan. china may continue to take a hard line stance against japan. >> at least on the surface, the latest strain of bilateral relations is a result of the collision at sea. but

do you think china is misrepresented in the world yes or no you know there are things in china that are not good at all and that absolutely need to be changed and will change over time especially with the new generation coming up that has a much lower tolerance on. strict surratt sorry. yes but what needs to be done is to also report the guts things about china the many things where china really has made enormous progress and that not only in economics but also it is on the way through change its in its political structure in its social economic system i think i think the biggest problem with the reporting in the western press about china is that there is this mindset about communist china and peoples and they always say in the western press that communist government of china. well we're coming is going to china china is that what it used to be but there's this mindset about what it probably is. that shakes to everything about china and it gives a very distorted picture this is a very modern society where there's a lot of participation. of the people obviously the point is there's a the

how much it supports dealing with china and trading with china ok you seem to be very positive about china coming from europe you're coming from europe you're coming from the u.s. do you think china is misrepresented in the world yes or no you know there are things in china that are not good at all and that absolutely need to be changed and will change over time especially with the new generation coming up that has a much lower tolerance on. strict surratt authorities but. what needs to be done is to also report the guts things about china the many things where china really has made enormous progress and that not only in economics but also it is on the way through change its in its political structure in its social economic system i think i think the biggest problem with the reporting in the western press about china is that there is this mindset about communist china and peoples and they always say in the western press that communist government of china. well come is going to china china isn't what it used to be but there's this mindset about what it probably is and that shapes ever

from a boycott art feat beijing china. steve international relations and the wall is concerned about is the energy supplies to europe winning the chinese market will not be an easy task. russia is concerned with the situation in europe where there are other situations this two regions are quite different now the situation is in europe is quite subtle we are not witnessing any off gas or oil war this direction right now however with a chance. some controversial issues yes we did agree about all supplies we did agree about gas supplies but remember quite well china is also the r.c. find its suppliers not only russia is the r.c. find it supplies. we know that china is building a very good relations with central asian states with australia with. plans to supply gas to china as well but there are no agreement on the exact prices for at the moment. now jewish activists aboard a boat sailing towards the gaza blockade say they expect israel to intercept the campaign and say their objective is to show not all jewish people support

how much it supports dealing with china and trading with china ok you seem to be very positive about china coming from europe you're coming from europe you're coming from the u.s. do you think china is misrepresented in the world yes or no you know there are things in china that are not good at all and that absolutely need to be changed and will change over time especially with the new generation coming up that has a much lower tolerance on. strict surratt authorities but. what needs to be done is to also report the guts things about china the many things where china really has made enormous progress and that not only in economics but also it is on the way to change its in its political structure in its social economic system i think i think the biggest problem with the reporting in the western press about china is that there is this mindset about communist china and peoples and they always say in the western press the communist government of china. well the communist government of china china is what it used to be but there's this mindset about what it probably is and that shapes ev

how much it supports dealing with china and trading with china ok you seem to be very positive about china coming from europe you're coming from europe you're coming from the u.s. do you think china is misrepresented in the world yes or no you know there are things in china that are not good at all and that absolutely need to be changed and will change over time especially with the new generation coming up that has a much lower tolerance on. strict surratt authorities but what needs to be done is to also report the guts things about china the many things where china really has made enormous progress and that not only in economics but also it is on the way to change its in its political structure in its social economic system or i think good biggest problem with reporting in the western press about china is that there's money. communist china and peoples so they always say the words to press the communist government of china. well recovery is going to china china is that what it used to be but there's this mindset about what it probably is and that shapes everything about china and it

is now the chair of you know china you've got you can count on china to do what is best for china and. in all these regards and china is not it's so preoccupied with its own growth. that it's not it's not spending very much time thinking about you know does it connects you with joining the world and also in connection with natural resources that africa has been doing really when when policy their personal but not it was that when africa would say that well a lot versus what the rest is done with if they are not fair government to government although we know what was happening there. but china doesn't also spend too much of its time worrying about russia. there is the year we have the new one because it will have to worry about radio or doesn't have to worry about russia it doesn't worry that much about the us china is preoccupied with do with developing china and they've got a long way to go and if so it's a view us the people who are articulate the problems of china most fervently are the chinese i mean they talk and the biggest problem in china by far is the growing leadership alway

ization of china having published many books about the country they supply and how china has managed to reinvent itself in such a short time. thank you very much to you both for joining us now i'll start review mr nesbitt now you first visited china about forty years ago and obviously a lot has changed now what is the post dramatic or surprising change that you've seen well in nineteen sixty seven when i first read there was china is very primitive really very poor. pretty discouraging place the big changes the people now that people are so energetic. so excited about china and what's happening what's happening in their own lives and that is a huge huge change the people are obviously the people who are in politics or who are in government and who are in businesses and so forth so that every level whatever they're doing there's the you know with more excitement more energy and of course physically. the appearance of china is just gone from that primitive third world look to the most modern country in the world. the country with the most modern cities in the world having said that now

is now the chair of you know china you've got you can count on china to do what is best for china and. in all these regards and china is not it's so preoccupied with its own growth. that it's not it's not spending very much time thinking about you know does it connects you with joining the world and also in connection with natural resources of africa and has been doing really when when policy there versatile but not it was ready when an african would say that a lot versus what the rest is done with if they are not fair government to government although we know what's what's happening there but china doesn't also spend too much of its time worrying about russia. there is the you know we have the new one because you just have to worry about right no one doesn't have to worry about russia it doesn't worry that much about the u.s. china is preoccupied with two with developing china and they've got a long way to go and it's so interesting to us that the people who are articulate the problems of china most fervently are the chinese i mean they talk and the biggest problem in china by far is

yes but china has never. wanted to be part of the west russia has wanted to be part of the rest of the west you mention china's history china is very much aware of its own history people are very proud of their history and if we look back to the history in the in the twentieth century of course they have been very much linked to russia in their thinking russia was part of model of course russia pour out a lot of moxie and it was we were saying so yes ok yes the soviet union so now the chinese have a little bit the problem too they drifted away from the communists thinking they still call it communism but it's a completely different way of communism so i think that you cannot really compare the two countries because their thinking is very different as we experience it regularly you. will what are they what is the chinese russian relationship trying to achieve here is it because together they have more clout in challenging western institutions they believe in western values as the world changes we've seen we he

about the modernization of china having published many books about the country to explain how china has managed to reinvent itself in such a short time. thank you very much to you both for joining us now i'll start with you mr nesbitt now you first visited china about forty years ago and obviously a lot has changed now what is the post dramatic or surprising change that you've seen nineteen sixty seven when i first read there was very primitive really very poor. pretty discouraging players the big change is the people now the people are so energetic. excited about. what's happening what's happening their own lives as.

and there's pressure within china to revisit issues of longstanding concern to china and see if they can move the needle with other countries around the region. the chinese navy in particular has grown much stronger. they are pressing to have the government back fairly assertive territorial claims. and to let the navy be fairly on balance, not very good news for the region. >> reporter: china and its rapidly expanding navy are also laying claim to swaths of the south china sea and islands, over the protests of neighbors like vietnam, taiwan, brunei, malaysia and the philippines. the area hosts crucial shipping lines rich oil and gas deposits. >> reporter: but it is china's economic muscle that makes it most formidable. this year it overtook japan as the world's second largest economy built on inexpensive manufacturing, cheap exports, and a growing market at home. its economy grew nearly 9% last year in the midst of a global recession. free of debt, with plenty of cash, china has been gobbling up natural resources it needs to sustain its pell-mell growth from countries around the glob

path emulate china well the chances of that happening. i think the chances of that are now relatively good because i think that finally they may be grasping that there is no alternative goodness knows they have been at china ever since it made its own historic turn towards i don't know what the official phrases but if you recall that state capitalism thirty years ago in the era when done shopping was alive he personally took a slightly younger kim jong il around china and i think it was one hundred eighty three or eighty four and he's had his successors up to hu jintao very recently president hu of china have hosted kim jong il ever since why don't they get the message why do they do this crazy currency reform which is basically robbing people of their meager savings why even just a few days ago the party newspaper wrote unction moon is still saying that you know dependency is all wrong and the modern way is for countries to rely on their own materials this is not true but i take some comfort there's a man called park pond jew he was the

is not a charity you know china you've got you can count on china to do what is best for china and. in all these regards and china is not it's so preoccupied with its own growth. that it's not it's not spending very much time thinking about you know does it connects you with joining the world and also in connection with natural resources that africa has been doing really when when policy their personal but not it was ready when an african would say that well a lot versus what the rest is done with if they are now fair government to government and all that we know what's what's happening there but china doesn't also spend too much of its time worrying about russia. there is the you know we have the new one because it doesn't have to worry about rondo and doesn't have to worry about russia it doesn't worry that much about the u.s. china is preoccupied with too with developing china and they've got a long way to go and it's so interesting to us that the people who are articulate the problems of china most fervently are the chinese i mean they talk and the biggest problem in china by fa

is now the chair of you know china you've got you can count on china to do what is best for china and. in all these regards and china is not it's so preoccupied with its own growth. that it's not it's not spending very much time thinking about you know does it connects you with joining the world and also in connection with natural resources of africa and has been doing really when when policy there versus not it was ready when an african would say that well a lot versus what the rest is done with if they are now fair government to government although we know what's what's happening there but china doesn't also spend too much of its time worrying about russia. there is the you know we have the new one because you just have to worry about roman doesn't have to worry about russia it doesn't worry that much about the u.s. china is preoccupied with too with developing china and they've got a long way to go and it's so interesting to us that the people who are articulate the problems of china most fervently are the chinese i mean they talk and the biggest problem in china by far is the grow

first i just voting for the sanctions look china china is going to draw a big red line just as rusher is around on weaponization and they going to let iran have an awful lot of rope as long as it's playing games up to the point of acquiring nuclear weapons but once you get challenged with an actual real life prospect of having weapons so you have to push them china will try to rush into other was very very strongly on our agenda is different from the panel and we're going to want to abstain or a gentle way to cut to a short break and we'll continue our discussion a discussion on new shareholders in the international system stay with r.t. . if. you want. welcome back to crossfire we're discussing the break gentlemen we're talking about international responsibility and modernization democratization and when to step up i mean. you can finish up your point there it's the chinese want to be they want a free ride this they want to take advantages of all the perks in the international system that they have but they want they want more influenced national interest not for the greater good of

from a boycott or beijing china. or let's get some more on the story right now we're joined by a doctor. from the moscow state university of international relations good to see you so as we've just heard russia will soon be piping oil and gas into china on that subject you think it's russia no longer concerned about tough competition in europe as a diversified as it supplies further east. while i think russia is concerned with the situation in europe how other are the situations in this two regions are quite different now the situation is in europe is quite subtle and we are not with the sing off gas or oil wars this direction right now however with the china china we see it some controversial issues. yes we did agree about all supplies and we did agree about gas supplies but we should remember quite well the china is also the r.c. flying its suppliers not only russia is they are supplying its supplies and we know that china is building very good relations with central asian states with australia with salva stations

china's government is expected to refuse to compromise until japan releases the skipper but china apparently hopes to prevent public sentiment from spiraling out of control as five years ago, when demonstrations erupted across china. the government will decide on its future responses after closely watching people's reactions. >>> india's security forces have opened fire on anti-u.s. demonstrators in the northern kashmir region. 13 people died and more than 40 were wounded. a series of anti-u.s. rallies took place in kashmir on monday. they were called to protest a canceled plan by a christian past nor florida to burn copies of the koran on the anniversary of the september 11th attacks. the plan ignited anger around muslims around the world, including predominantly muslim kashmir. the indians fired at some of the demonstrators, setting fire to buildings. in new york, ban ki-moon expressed concern about how the religious conflict has spread around the world. >> it's quite unfortunate we have seen mostly recently some polarization of extreme abuse. this is totally not the desirable, not accepta

kim last visited china three months ago. this is the first time he made two trips to the country in the same year. another first was the summit meeting with the chinese leader outside the capital in beijing. >> the first footage was broadcast by china's state-run tv network on august 30th, after he wrapped up his five-day visit. kim went to a junior high school attended by his late father, kim il sung. the next day kim moved to the provisional capital where he had a long meeting with the chinese president, hu jintao. chinese media reported that president hu reiterated the need to resume the stalled six-party talks on north korea's nuclear program. they reported that kim said that his staff of seeking a nuclear free peninsula remains unchanged, and he expressed hope for an early resumption of the talks. there is speculation that kim held talks with chinese officials ahead of a meeting of north korea's ruling workers party with his third son may be deemed his successor. it is not clear, however, if kim jong un accompanied his

i think china is welcome of kim jong il the last two times based on china's goal. china wants to have the economic development. if north korea disturbed to the peaceful environment in the region and with other countries, china would have economic development may be disturbed. i think he welcomed kim jong- il's reason to visit. -- recent visit. if north korea provoked another thing like cheonan, what would be -- how would join the treat -- thea treat -- bilateralization between china and north korea, how would that be affected? thank you. >> me? [laughter] >> john park. >> thank you for a question. -- for your question. it would depend on how another provocation occurred. if it were ambiguous, china would react similarly. if it were clear-cut that it were north korea, that would put china in a difficult position. i would say it really depends on the circumstance. when north korea conducted the first nuclear test, and wrote the un security dons a wreck -- council resolution. >> yes, sir. here on the end of the row. >> thank you. i'm with the executive intelligence re

russia and china are committed to strategic partnership concerning all issues it helps our countries to adjust to a constantly changing geopolitical situation we have good coordination concerning the international agenda and regional issues or ling the joints of diplomatic corps reality our russian hydrocarbons about four hundred thousand barrels of russian crude crosses the border each day when these pipeline the first between the two neighbors reaches its full capacity next year the amount will triple along to russia among other things to diversify its supply markets away from western europe . you have these alliances not without reservations over the recent years russia scaled back its weapon sales to china due to concerns that beijing may copy the designs and later on in other foreign military markets. trying to buy some more for example before we quit mint and then produce those that equipment it's by itself so of course it's also reduces the boredom of military trade between russia and china but there's also something that russia would like to borrow from china back in the fift

path emulate china well the chances of that happening. i think the chances of that are now relatively good because i think that finally they may be grasping that there is no alternative goodness knows they have been obvious that china ever since it made its own historic turn towards i don't know what the official phrases but if you recall that state capitalism thirty years ago in the era when done shopping was alive he personally took a slightly younger kim jong il around china and i think it was one nine hundred eighty three or eighty four and he's had his successes up to hu jintao very recently president hu of china have hosted kim jong il ever since why don't they get the message why do they do this crazy currency reform which is basically robbing people of their meager savings why even just a few days ago the party newspaper wrote on shin moon is still saying that you know dependency is all wrong and the modern way is for countries to rely on their own materials this is not true but i take comfort some comfort there's a man called par

china. doctor yet at the pinnacle the no from the moscow state university of international relations says while russia is concerned about his energy supplies to europe winning the chinese market will be an easy task either. russia is concerned with the situation in europe whether this situations in this two regions are quite different now the situation is in europe is quite settled and we are not witnessing any doff gas or oil warsaw in this direction right now however with the channel we see some controversial issues yes we did agree about all supplies and we did agree about gas supplies but we should remember quite well the china is also the versifying its suppliers not only russia is the r.c. find it supplies. we know that china is building very good relations with central asian states with australia with salva station so there are plans to supply gas to china as well but there are no agreement on the exact prices for at the moment. if we compare the prices which are already agreed by chi

northeastern china as well. this rain band here just about stalled out for now, really impacting areas. with a couple areas picking up some pretty isolated heavy amounts of rainfall. as for highs today, 23 in tokyo. a rainy day and it's going to be quite cool. sunshine for seoul at 30 degrees. a little bit higher toward the south. 32 in hong kong. and even 37 degrees for chongqing. now, across the americas, mexico also dealing with a very strong storm system. tropical storm carl is working its way across the yucatan peninsula. now, not a particularly large storm system and not too strong either, but it did bring some pretty stormy conditions to the coast of cancun -- or rather the yucatan on wednesday when it made landfall. here's a look at the beaches in cancun. strong waves and some pretty strong winds, too, you can see here. rainfall not looking too bad at the moment, but it did keep tourists out of the waters. hopefully, aw little better weather today, or rather thursday will allow for some beach time. once

social and personal freedom in china that third it's never been before in the history of china that freedom has allowed the people to contribute to the whole and to create. an ever greater and more prosperous society so every level whatever they're doing they're doing it with more excitement more energy and of course physically. the appearance of china just gone to the most modern country in the world. the u.n. human rights council will investigate israel's attack on a gaza bound aid flotilla in may of recent un report concluded israel's military broke international laws during the raid which left nine activists dad and also described the attack as brutal and disproportionate. israel so claims the incident was self-defense and considers the turkish charity group which led the flotilla terrorist to link to hamas artie's closely are reports. the pictures that catapulted a relatively little known him go on to the world stage in the world in which we live today where. all sympathize with are also being called terrorists it's no wonder that i age is being accused in this way the turkish charity