so far, we haven't seen large scale numbers of folks being insourced. that said, i think there's -- i would differ from the government's approach on this one. it would seem to me we would want governmental work to be done by governmental employees. and i absolutely support that. anything that's not inherently governmental should be outsourced. it's a better deal and more effective to out source everything they can out source. and i think that's a little different than current trend. >> the debate is what is inherently governmental work and what is not. some say intelligence work, the term 60,000 contractors in intelligence was used. some say that's an inherently governmental task. where is the dividing line? >> i don't think there's a good argument to say that because you can't define the boundary very clearly that that changes the basic argument. there may be a bit of a gray area in defining the last 10% of what's inherently governmental, but that shouldn't be a deterrent to what i said. in the intelligence community, all the normal work of every other

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this tax increase will make it less attractive for many of these insourcing companies to initiate or expand operations here in the united states, potentially encouraging them to ship these jobs overseas. with the unemployment rate hovering near 10% and businesses across the country continuing to struggle to meet payroll, now is the worst possible time for a tax hike on employers that will cost us more jobs. this is not the first time house democrats have tried to enact this particular tax hike, and it probably won't be the last. that's because the senate, even senate democrats continue to reject it since it would not only cost jobs but also violate our international treaty obligations. even the obama administration's own treasury department has testified before the house ways and means committee that has concerns, i quote, it has concerns about the specifics of this provision and whether it it will override many of our income tax treaties. mr. speaker, all of us, all of us in this chamber recognizes the hardships experienced by those brave americans in response to the events of 9/11,