what is wrong with pakistan? we will discuss this with out what the country has to say for themselves. >> what is that? >> you might know that some but do you know who wrote it? the director takes on a screen writer who feels undervalued. >> president obama does not have to go very far to find enemy is these days, he has plenty at home. it was with some relief that he faced mahmoud ahmadinejad at the u.n. he said that the the door still open to diplomacy should iran choose to walk through it. >> each year in september, mahmoud ahmadinejad travels to the u.s. for the united nations general assembly in new york. he and the american president speak on the same day. the iranian leader was in fine form. >> it was said that some 3000 people were killed on september 11th for which we are all very saddened. up until now, in afghanistan and iraq, hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, millions have been wounded and displaced and the conflict is still going on. >> when questioned who was behind 9/11, the diploma

every year we give pakistan 1.5 billion dollars. last fall we gave them an additional tip, 7.5 billion dollars. we are giving them hundreds of millions of dollars in disaster relief. i don't have no clue how much we give them in the military my guess is billions. >> it is. >> according to secretary of state clinton and others the rich in pakistan don't pay taxes. so, we pay for what the people of pakistan, the rich or even the middle class impact standard is coming from us. >> here's our dilemma. if we don't support the pakistan army to make them better equipped to fight terrorism on their side of the border, americans are going to get killed. i'd like to fix pakistan's tax problems. we tax too much. we take too much from the american people to run this government. and we spend too much. my focus is on making sure we win in afghanistan you have to have a stable reliable partner in afghanistan. the money we are giving this military sis tans to make sure they can fight terrorists on their side of the border more effectively. i'm willi

well pakistan is a sanctuary and of course pakistan is playing the double game there are a stencil ally at the same time they're intelligent services are helping the the taliban and actively. you know encouraging them in certain cases and so and then they're not going to quit because they know the united states is going to leave afghanistan and that is really their only. strong player that's allied with pakistan in afghanistan although. not so much aligned with the pakistanis so i think they regard the taliban in afghanistan as their as their chip for after the u.s. leaves so they're not going to quit supporting the taliban and there's this charade that they're making an alliance with the u.s. and they do do some things to catch al-qaeda and that sort of thing but they never really go after the taliban and the sanctuaries are very important for the for the taliban in the war in afghanistan and so i think that's probably going to continue the strikes from there the sanctuary in pakistan and so i think the u.s. is going to have a hard time winning this war and i think many people even in

well nato as mission in afghanistan is facing a new obstacle pakistan has closed a vital supply route for the u.s. led war effort across the border a fuel tanker trucks are being stopped from crossing the front and is believed to be in response to a nato helicopter raid in which three pakistani soldiers were killed and three others wounded the alliance denies its aircraft entered pakistani territory and says the reports of being investigated by the u.s. has been stepping up missile strikes against suspected militants holding in hiding rather in pakistan and there have been several across the border helicopter raids this week and we can get more reaction on this we are joined by a political expert. who is live for us in islamabad hello to you so what is pakistan trying to achieve with the closure is it deliberately hindering the u.s. led fight against taliban insurgents. let me just first begin by telling you that there is tremendous do really shouldn't today among the nationalists within the pakistani political elite in blackest on this has been a longstanding demand off many people a

there you see along the afghan, pakistan border. 20 drone attacks into pakistan that killed some 125 people along that area in the past couple of weeks. what about this? and what is heaned it?-- behind it? bill kristol. mara liasson, national public radio and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer, charles? >> i think there's several reasons why there's been this escalation. number within, we heard from holbrook, it's a tactical one. if you have an opportunity the bridges washed out and there is mobility and these guys can't escape. if you've got them and you have the intelligence, apparently an increase in intelligence and they're immobile you hit them. secondly we see all of this, all of these scares in france, england and germany and there is a lot of indication of near imminent or at least in the works, attacks within europe and by the fact they're protecting the eiffel tower, obviously, this is a-- this would indicate something large hitting iconic targets and apparently, it's emanating out of pakistan and that would be the second reason and the third is actually, there's a wa

war in the western part of pakistan? thousands and thousands of pakistanis have been killed by the pakistani taliban. thousands. those are the people who trained the times square bomber. the afghan taliban is sitting up there killing americans, attacking the indian embassy. these are really bad people. you mentioned in your opening remarks one of the headquarters of one of the groups who kills a lot of americans. if you're in a war, you can't kid yourself about it. i've seen a lot of wars. i hate them more than anything you can imagine. but in this particular case, as the president has said repeatedly, our own homeland security is directly involved. then you have the l.e.t., another group whose goal is to provoke a conflict between india and provoke a conflict between pakistan and who did the mumbai bombing. this is the reason why this the most dangerous place on earth to stability. >> should we understand the war in afghanistan and pakistan as two separate wars. should we not consider what's happening in the pakistan to

well there is a war brewing in pakistan and for some reason people keep denying it but we are fighting just this past weekend fifty three people were confirmed dead after nato helicopters chased militants across the afghanistan border into pakistan and then struck rather unusual attack because this one came from a manned aircraft not just dropped now this violent weekend brings the total number of killings there to one hundred and one so we know that the number of attacks and drone strikes in pakistan have been on a constant increase we now know thanks to bob woodward's new book that was just released today that the cia's operating a three thousand man paramilitary of local afghans who cross into pakistan when needed yet for some reason the obama administration insists that the u.s. is not at war in pakistan in other words they're just saying what the american people want to hear but you know what the u.s. presence in pakistan goes all the way back to the bush administration as taliban and al qaeda leaders fled afghanistan they found pakistan to be a safe cell and they just relocated t

of a failed pakistan. but the pakistanis do not believe that. >> kudos to the authors for getting this book done. congratulations. i have a couple of questions that have to do with now they have done the book and interviews going along with that that have to do with india's long-term strategic outlook on things that may happen, that we are all aware of, and i also want to say to us as practice to that that i think it is lack of monolithic or will define brand strategy is productive and opportunistic way. how to the planners and never has to act with them on a political level think about the outcome of iran going nuclear on one side, to put it crudely, what might be regarded -- i hope it does not come to that, but what might be regarded as a u.s. and coalition failure in afghanistan and the consequences for pakistan, how do these bear on indian planning about the future? >> mike, you want to -- [laughter] that is our next book. >> i cannot probably answer it will directly because you're asking me to put mys

the pakistan caliban warned last week of a fresh spate of attacks. . pakistan taliban. bbc news. >> the authorities in new zealand have extended the state of emergency in the city of christchurch for another seven days. they suffered another aftershock, five days after the original earthquake. 5.1 was the magnitude. police say underlies the effort for people to stay away from that area. this is bbc news. angelina jolie arrives in pakistan to highlight their plight. and in jail for six months. the sergeant was caught dragging the woman across the floor. speaking after the sentencing, they said the sergeant was a disgrace. she said she did not think the sentence was fair, as she will be living with the effect of the attack forever. >> i have been trying to forget the last two years. i have not been able to. >> how horrific was it, looking at those images? we can look get them and imagined. how difficult was it to look at it? >> it was so terrific. the fact of being arrested, not having anything being explained to me, and in being treated with such violence -- and then bei

but i did very well for pakistan. i know that, and i challenge anybody on any point as far as pakistan is concerned and the people of pakistan are concerned. we did wonders for them in those seven years. it should be compared with 50 years of the past. >>> the former australian prime minister has been given a cabinet job by the woman who ousted him. it has been confirmed he will become foreign minister in her new labor government. the party scraped back into power thanks to the support of independent monitors after an election which is delivered a hung parliament. >>> details of some three cases of alleged sexual abuse by roman catholic clergy in belgium have been released -- 300 cases. a child psychiatrist to lead the inquiry said the cases of abuse, mostly involving minors, have been found in nearly every diocese. 13 alleged victims have committed suicide. the church will respond to report on monday. >> in catholic run boarding schools, churches, and youth groups, the scale of the abuse is shocking. it involves not

farooq is a wanted man in pakistan. he has been charged in at least 60 cases involving kidnapping and murder of political opponents. he has always denied these charges, which have been claimed against other senior leaders. they said they were politically motivated. they were all registered in the 1990's when they were in a state of war against the pakistan security forces. between 1992 and 1998, violence claimed many lives in fighting between mitt tenant and security forces. dr. farooq was said to have played a pivotal role during that period. >> has there been any reaction from the m.q.m. party based there in party? >> there is a lot of anger and grief. i spoke to the leaders about an hour ago, and they said that 10 days of mourning has now been announced across pakistan and in general around the world, 10 days of mourning for dr. imran farooq. there have been some incidents of violence. some cars have been set on fire, and there are reports that firing is taking place in some places in the city, but these are minor in

>> the true headquarters of al qaeda is still in pakistan and it's from pakistan it's being hatched showing al qaeda is resilient and able to pressure the west. this is a plot we saw last september. they've been able to decentralize the operations in the tribal areas of pakistan to sort of avoid some of these drone strikes which allowed them the capability to still plot against the west. there's been no ground offensive yet by pakistani troops. into north waziristan, the real trouble tribal areas. this seems to be a major plot which has been thwarted coming out of pakistan. al qaeda central still seems to have quite a lot of resilience, ali. >> what is the -- what's the end game here? to continue to kill commanders of al qaeda or to deal with the fact that it does have these tentacles, cells that can operate independent of -- seemingly independent of connection to the central al qaeda govern annals? . >> it's both. it's both an ideological strug the against al qaeda the wider movement but also intelligence services are trying to target specific al qaeda commanders, specific al qaeda operati

policy toward afghanistan /pakistan? this is particularly important, because the president has laid out a plan of withdrawal in the future. as the united states readies itself to withdrawal, will it encourage pakistan to become more involved in afghanistan, and how does that play into the relationship? >>to answer the question beforei go any further, we think to do this right will not be easy. to be able to make this connection and make it well, it will be difficult. the indian procurement system -- you should all read my book -- it is pretty shocked. it is very difficult to think about how india can move fast enough to be able to procure the weapons that are being sold. secondly, indians themselves have articulated that the weapons purchases are going to be used as levers for technology transfers, and that raises a whole other host of issues. if the primary goal of the indian government is to have greater access to technologies, and they're going to have -- it will raise issues with technology control regime so within t

war in the western part of pakistan? thousands and thousands of pakistanis have been killed by the pakistani taliban. thousands. those are the people who trained the times square bomber. the afghan taliban is sitting up there killing americans, attacking the indian embassy. these are really bad people. you mentioned in your opening remarks one of the headquarters of one of the groups who kills a lot of americans. if you're in a war, you can't kid yourself about it. i've seen a lot of wars. i hate them more than anything you can imagine. but in this particular case, as the president has said repeatedly, our own homeland security is directly involved. then you have the l.e.t., another group whose goal is to provoke a conflict between india and pakistan and who did the mumbai bombing. thousands and thousands of pakistanis have been killed by the pakistani taliban, this is the reason why this the most dangerous place on earth to stability. >> should we understand the war in afghanistan and pakistan as two separate wars. shou

in pakistan. and in that camp, there are many kids that are previously were going to school and now they have no school and the cost to help them go would be about one month per month per child. fifth grader 20 bucks a year. first grader five bucks a year. they get their food in the back on the mess tenth and then on the left is an extreme place where people get indoctrined into a violent islam. because of international lack of help for those kids to get implicated these kids are here. there's another camp here. osama bin ladins first assistant. spent two-years in gann tan know bay in cuba and he's running large camp and just down that the united states, 212 mash units. what's going on is they're agenda is to get people to be dependent and indoctrinate the violent islam. unfortunately we're a nonprofit in the states if we go into the camps or talk with anybody there we're affiliating with a terrorist organization and shut down by the, irs so we created a viral incubator for terrorists similar to w

pakistan wasted no time respding to the death of these three soldiers, killed at a border post in pakistan's tribal region by apache attack helicopter the choppers were supporting ground forces in afghanistan, who thought they spotted insurgents firing mortars. nato officials say the apaches took small arms fire from inside pakistan. >> operating in self-defense, the aircraft entered into pakistani air space, killing several armed individuals. >> reporter: within hours, pakistan blocked u.s. and coalition supply trucks heading into afghanistan. late today, more than 150 trucks were backed up in the khyber pass. the border crossing is on a vital supply line. it handles about 80% of the military's fuel, food, water, and other non-lethal supplies bound for bases in afghanistan. anti-american sentiment is strong in pakistan. as cross border attacks are at an all-time high. today, the pakistani prime minister pressed the issue with the visiting cia director leon panetta. another official wondered whether the west was an ally or an enemy. >> are you fighting a war or are you in war together? >> re

pakistan wasted no time responding to the death of these three soldiers, killed at a border post in pakistan's tribal region by apache attack helicopters. the choppers were supporting ground forces in afghanistan, who thought they spotted insurgents firing mortars. nato officials say the apaches took small arms fire from inside pakistan. >> operating in self-defense, the aircraft entered into pakistani air space, killing several armed individuals. >> reporter: within hours, pakistan blocked u.s. and coalition supply trucks heading into afghanistan. late today, more than 150 trucks were backed up in the khyber pass. the border crossing is on a vital supply line. it handles a s about 80% of the military's supplies bound for bases in afghanistan anti-american sentiment is strong in pakistan. today, the pakistani prime minister pressed the issue. another official wondered whether the west was an ally or an enemy. >> are you fighting a war or are you in war together? >> reporter: the pakistani partnership is vital to the war effort. since 2001, the united states has given pakistan's military more t

all this as pakistan -- as flooding in pakistan goes on. upstream, the water has receded, but millions of people have been left dependent on aid. pakistan's army has been doing much of the relief work and the security forces are stretched thin. >> and in pakistan's southern province, sindh several more hund -- several more thousand people have fled because of flooding. in some areas people are beginning to rebuild. in the northwest, one of the town's that was want more than a month ago. >> it is cleanup time at the riverview hotel in it now share the river view hotel in nashira. the owner says aid and compensation may never come. >> nashira has been pushed back 30 years and no one has come to help. any money that " -- that comes from abroad that the government will keep for themselves. >> here is how the town looked about a month ago. it was one of the areas hit first and hit harder spirit -- hit hardest. lost beneath the waters, 80% of the crops. nearby, another village, this was home to more than 20,000 people who have now lost everything

this video claims to show german-born terrorist recruits training in northern pakistan. according to u.s. sources, a german suspect arrested in kabul has been the source for much of the intelligence about the threat. 20 drone attacks aimed at al qaeda commanders in the north of pakistan so far this month have been aimed at killing those behind the plot. if europe, there have been frequent recent security alerts. the eiffel tower evacuated twice in two weeks and here plans have been drawn up to deal with specifically a mumbai-style attack. >> brown: ray suarez takes the story from there. >> suarez: siobhan gorman joins us. she has been covering this story for the "wall street journal." in your reporting, what have you found out about what kind of attacks were contemplated and how far along they were in the planning. >> well, what i've been told is that the leading theory is that we would be looking at these mumbai-style attacks where you'd have armed gunmen going at perhaps multiple targets, so-called soft targets, hotels or subways or things like that. and i was told the

conditions in pakistan. i also want to make mention of ambassador ann paterson who is still in pakistan, who has been a stall wart of representation of the united states, who has been through the earthquake, who has been through the tragedy of the loss of innocent vutu and now this unspeakable tragedy of flooding and has maintained the leadership of the united states. i am very glad that we have this resolution on the floor of the house. i want to thank my friend and colleague who likewise has given a very important statement as well as the gentleman from georgia to acknowledge this resolution to express our commitment to the people of pakistan. i look forward to visiting pakistan to see firsthand the extent of the devastation and assess and assist in the relief efforts. i believe it is vital that we lead a congressional humanitarian mission to pakistan which will signal to those people that the friendship between the united states and pakistan remains unbroken as we fight the war on terror and continue to h

here in america, afghanistan, africa or pakistan. the way to overcome that i think is through education and also with having courage and compassion. instead of building walls we need to build peace and have the courage to do that. so i went back to pakistan in 94 and brought the school supplies and finally got to the village and the man was again there to greet me. he shook his head and said, chizle what the heck. not only had i come back, he said you've made two big mistakes. we don't start building before wintertime and if you really want to build school we're going to have to build a bridge first and i hadn't really thought about that. so i came back to america and raised 10,000 more dollars. and then i got back from tack stan and bridge got built and no school yet. i was 38 years old, die hard bachelor and all i could think was getting that school built. i went to a fund raise er the fair month in san francisco where my hero was speaking. it was getting late and people were nodding off and he was going on and on about the queens

i can challenge anybody on any point as far as pakistan and people of pakistan. we did wonders for them in seven years. >> pervez musharraf speaking to us. still to come, a river of mud searches through a village in italy. a local cameraman films the destruction. a breakthrough in me cold relations between serbia and kosovo maybe a minute. serviette dropped its -- serbia. that opened the way for direct talks. >> four weeks it seemed a major diplomatic confrontation would take wake at the -- would take place at the un general assembly. the un and the 22 eu members refuse to accept it, telling belgrade its own eu hopes would be jeopardized. belgrade agreed to change the text to one calling for dialogue with kosovo. >> the resolution welcomes the readiness of the european union to facilitate the process of dialogue. which would help to secure regional gains, and improved the lives. >> the resolution was unanimously accepted. this is a hugely important moment since serbia has given up its fight for kosovo. belgrade says it will never recognize the secession, but is p

i did very well for pakistan. i can challenge anybody on any point as far as pakistan and the people of pakistan are concerned. we did wonders for them. it should be compared with the leaders of the past. >> pervez musharraf speaking there. you are watching "bbc world news." a river of mud surges through a village in italy. a local cameraman records the destruction. a breakthrough in the currently cold relations between serbia and cosell may be imminent. serviette dropped its rejection kosovo's independence. our correspondent reports. >> four weeks it seemed a major diplomatic confrontation would take place at the un. serbia submitted a draft evelation rejecting kosovo's secession. but many refused to accept it, saying its own hopes would be jeopardized. after negotiations, belgrade agreed to change the text calling for dialogue with kosovo. >> the resolution welcomes the readiness of the european union to facilitate the process of dialogue between the parties, which would help to secure regional gains and improve

a a real policy in afghanistan pakistan is if we have a plan afghanistan the same way that we've had a very successful plan colombia dropping cocaine in colombia so that's the supply side but what about the demand side what's being done there to. and reduce some of the demand for this product. well when you when your report stated that it was the addiction of the police that it's a problem and you barely mention the corruption one breeds to the other you have got to stop the demand the myth the way that you have a huge flow of drugs in afghanistan and in unregulated growth because people have wanted to support the possibility of economic stability by letting the drugs grow it has bred a quintupling of drug addiction in afghanistan and as a result you have not only the addiction but the corruption so there's got to be education prevention rehabilitation treatment as well as law enforcement and foreign policy it has to be a comprehensive anti drug policy in afghanistan and as i said i believe there is now hope with the new united nations drug policy spokesman and so far the us led nato

it has been nearly two months since the floods in pakistan. the country is struggling to cope with the impact. the u.n. has said the international community must do much more to help. all this week, our correspondent has been traveling the indus river, charting the damage to local communities. this reports comes from one of the areas hardest hit. >> the families that used to live here had homes, lively goods, and a community. it was all swept away. it is an indication of how desperate people are here that every time we saw a car here, there were surrounded by people affected by the floods. weeks after the disaster struck here, most are dependent on handouts and have no means of helping themselves. >> at least someone got something. by the government. with the local officials. that is what i can honestly tell you, nobody has died of starvation. >> but it is not all going to be as smooth as the government says. there is not enough aid to go around. this area as soon descend into chaos. frustrated flood victims tired of waiting for food take matt

orla guerin, bbc news, northwest pakistan. >> still in pakistan, militants have carried out a huge bomb attacks against police in the northwest. at least 20 died when a vehicle exploded. on monday, a suicide bomber killed 19 at up police station. women and child victims of mass rape in the democratic republic of congo has been failed by united nations peacekeepers. that is according to a u.n. official. over 500 women and children have been raped in the past month. violent scenes in the ukrainian parliament as opposition leaders tried to seize control of the podium. they are angry at the government for increasing the retirement age for women in double in gas prices. do stay with us if you can on "bbc world news." still to come -- the lives of american troops could be at risk. that is the warning from the american commander in afghanistan as a florida church threatens to burn other -- a koran. first, of foreign minister in france and says he will do anything necessary to save a woman sentenced to stoning in iran. >> our family fears she may only have days up to live. sakineh mohammadi ash

does that go very far with the people of pakistan? because there's a significant amount of anti-american sentiment in your country. >> the qualitative difference has come under this administration. they have tripled the economic assistance to pakistan. it is helping because for the first time this money will be spent where? education, health, poverty alleviation. now, when people see american money helping their lives, that is what will change the public opinion of pakistan. >> couric: i was recently in eastern afghanistan and a major complaint is that insurgents return, cross the pakistani border, retrain, regroup, rearm, and then come back into afghanistan. >> it's a two-way traffic. there has to be a strategy to check them once they cross the border. >> couric: but pakistan has some major responsibility here. >> well, we are fulfilling our responsibilities. but we need international help. >> couric: a recent poll in this country found that 24% of americans have a favorable impression of islam, 39% have an unfavorable opinion. why i

and nato as war effort in afghanistan is facing another obstacle pakistan has closed an important supply route for the coalition one hundred fuel tankers and trucks haven't been allowed into afghanistan it's seen as a retaliation to a nato helicopter strike into the tarea territory of pakistan in which three local soldiers were killed and three more wounded the alliance says the investigation is now being the incident is now being investigated and promised pakistan's sovereignty would be respected with recently the number of missile strikes and helicopter raids against suspected militants in pakistan's tribal zone have been on the rise pakistani officials say the attacks are violating international law and should be stopped political expert made correct she tells r t that the us led coalition has failed to persuade often drive women on either side of the border to join in the peace. so you need to expect that box on could go actually more further ahead and completely shut down needed supplies because there's a strong feeling that box that box down is getting to the bad side of the stick

emergency relief supplies are being sent to affected areas in pakistan. however, experts warn that more assistance may be needed because there are still many areas underwater. flooding across the indus river region has claimed more than 1,600 lives and affected more than 17 million people, or about 10% of the population. >>> in pakistan 2 out of 3 women can't read or write. the belief that women belong at home still prevails, making it impossible for many to get an education. but some are pressing ahead with the help of sympathetic organizations and a very familiar tool. nhk world's mobarik ahmed virk has more. >> translator: women need to study in this day and age. >> reporter: unesco and a local ngo hold a ceremony in a farming village in central pakistan. about 100 women ranging in age from 15 to 40 attend. the organizers give these women, who have no formal education, free cell phones. they will use the phones' e-mail function to learn to read and write. >> translator: my parents didn't send me to school. so i am really excited to have a chance to stu

helping pakistan defeat at the pakistani taliban, pakistan has nuclear weapons. our interests and there are much greater than in afghanistan, but with respect -- it doesn't appear to me that we have been able to crack the code on how to get the pakistanis to change their methods. i am not talking about the pakistani taliban. we are talking about the guys that are trying to do is stabilize -- trying to destabilize the government in kabul. >> my name is jeremy jones, united states air force. when i was in afghanistan, i was on the tactical level and the operational level. we all know that obama ordered a strategic and political review of military strategy. did he order the same review of the civilian strategy? >> this is exactly what i called for in an article. we did a good jump looking at our military strategy. let's leave aside all the problems of a development and how it might be destabilizing afghanistan further. politically, i think we have gotten -- i do not know if the president actually did this or if everyone realized there was a problem when we arrived a

pakistan blocks a vital supply route from u.s. led coalition forces into afghanistan after a cross border nato air strike claimed for the deaths of three pakistani soldiers. major media outlets leave the un general assembly in new york as the world's political heavy hitters the party pulling the plug on coverage smaller nations at a gathering intended to boost helpful poor countries. up ahead find out why switzerland's finance minister had the nation in stitches and why some buildings in china are demolished before they're even completed all that and more coming your way in the kaiser report in a moment here on r.t. . time now once again for the times reporter with me by surprise or stacy herbert markets finance scandals oh we've got all the scandals there are so many scandals so you see her tell us more tell us more tell us more here's the first headline hans rudolph merits bunar fly fly fish lock and fall blue. oh yeah. ok and it's the finance minister first switzerland and he's speaking before parliament a very banal subject of

our troops go through pakistan. so the pakistanis can blackmail us any time and what is appalling is the former military officer, is the lack of vision and coordination, and the violation of fundamental principles in all of this. bill, we still don't have clear attainable goals towards which we're working. bill: wow. colonel, thank you for coming in today. always appreciate you -- >> sorry, i can't be more optimistic. bill: that is okay. i think the words you used earlier, with -- is that we are bogged down and i used the phrase, "treading water." and hopefully we can get into a direction where we all should be going. ralph peters, our guest from washington today. thanks. juliet: well, started as a pee-wee football game and ended with a bench clearing brawl and we are not talking about the players' bench. >> i have never seen anything like that, as long as i have been on the earth, i have never seen any fighting like that. juliet: a sight on a field of a pee-wee football game causing a buzz, a rough block sparking a