, muslims will go there. and muslims attacked us. that's why it's too close. the wound is too open. that's why it's inappropriate. not that all muslims are evil or anything like that. i assume that people would know that but they jumped on it but you said something very interesting and i want you to clarify it further. is there a struggle in the muslim world, worldwide, in america and everywhere else, between the brotherhood and the radicals, the sharia crowd and you and your organization? because we only hear about the brotherhood and the radical people. we don't hear much from you guys. >> that's exactly the problem with -- you know, it's interesting. i wonder how many of the ladies on theview would even think about living in a muslim majority country. >> bill: none of them. >> wouldn't even think of it because of the oppression of the rights that exist when these people get in control. we are having a civil war in which america and the establishment from obama on down have not taken sides. we don't even wa

leave muslims alone. >> america and its muslims. >> you may for all i know not be the moderate you pretend to be. >> i'm shocked at the inference that i am not -- my intention is not good. have you looked in my heart? >> this morning on one stage, the emotional debate that has seized this country. the history and the politics. >> people are using a fear of muslims for their political purposes. >> yes. >> really? >> yes. >> i can't raise my two remaining sons to fear the people who live next door to them. >> we air the issues from all sides. >> we believe that one day the flag of islam will fly over the white house. >> but beyond the heated rhetoric, the question this morning is can an understanding be reached? >>> welcome to viewers here and around the world. i'm christiane amanpour, and we welcome you to a special "this week" town hall debate. "holy war: should americans fear islam?" the past few months have reminded us in the most vivid way -- >> all: go home. >> islam is of the devil. >> america is in the midst of a great struggle. >> we are not at war against islam. >> the cause of the

i'm not afraid that muslims will be the muslims will overrun europe now i don't believe that because. i believe that what we have done in the past several times. the people will stand up and say we're fed up we don't want that anymore and try to push them back and that will be violent i belong to europe and to the european culture and the muslims belong to the places they came from because whenever i asked the majority of the turks i speak to and. i asked them are you german or are you talking even if they are second or third generation they will say i'm turkish the palestinians wherever they live if they live in saudi arabia as workers they say i'm a palestinian and my home is palestine i don't blame them for that i just say ok so if they say they have their roots they are happy there. all the best take your suitcases and go back to where you are happy i will be happy you will be happy now is there anything inherently that makes it different to other religions and makes it particularly difficult for muslims to integrate some parts of the koran ask muslims not to integrate to give you

, muslims will go there. and muslims attacked us. that's why it's too close. the wound is too open. that's why it's inappropriate. not that all muslims are evil or anything like that. i assume that people would know that but they jumped on it but you said something very interesting and i want you to clarify it further. is there a struggle in the muslim world, worldwide, in america and everywhere else, between the brotherhood and the radicals, the sharia crowd and you and your organization? because we only hear about the brotherhood and the radical people. we don't hear much from you guys. >> that's exactly the problem with -- you know, it's interesting. i wonder how many of the ladies on theview would even think about living in a muslim majority country. >> bill: none of them. >> wouldn't even think of it because of the oppression of the rights that exist when these people get in control. we are having a civil war in which america and the establishment from obama on down have not taken sides. we don't even wa

i'm not afraid that muslims will be the muslims will overrun europe now i don't believe that because. i believe that what we have done in the past several times. the people will stand up and say we have fed up we don't want that anymore and try to push them back and that will be violent i belong to europe and to the european culture and the muslims belong to the places they came from because whenever i asked the majority of the turks i speak to and. i asked them are you german or are you talking even if they are second or third generation they will say i'm turkish the palestinians wherever they live if they live in saudi arabia as workers they say i'm a palestinian and my home is palestine i don't blame them for their i just say ok so if they say they have their roots they are happy there. all the best take your suitcases and go back to where you are happy i will be happy you will be happy now is there anything inherent that that makes it different to other religions and makes it particularly difficult for muslims to integrate some parts of the koran ask muslims not to integrate to gi

i love the muslim people. but i have great difficulty with the religion especially with sharia law and what it does for -- toward women, toward nonbelievers, the violence that is given under sharia law. >> imam ossama bahloul was listening intensely. is it allowed under muslim law. >> i am so sorry about anyone who lost any member of -- in september events. we feel so bad and we share sadness with everyone. went through such an experience to say we're not allowed to cherish in a muslim country, this is not right. you can google it. the oldest church we have -- this is something for you to say islam is asking muslims to -- beat a woman, this is absolutely not right. >> let me ask you, robert spencer, should america fear islam and why? >> well, islamic jihadis point frequently and consistently explain and justify their actions and try to make recruits among peaceful muslims by pointing to texts of the koran, actions of muhammad and the teachings of islamic law so something moderate and peaceful muslims have to c

muslims. but then when bill suggested possibly extrapolating that to all muslims you said no, bill, it's not all muslims. it's just the ones that were involved in terrorism. and that these were rabbis all involved in 9/11. we saw rabbi on airplane there may be people who feel emotion of fear. that doesn't make them bigots or make you bigots. the actual sentence that you said in full context wasn't even slightly bigoted. i don't know what ms. schiller is talking about other than taking what you said which was a genuine feeling and emotion out of context and therefore, inaccurate. >> juan: what the suggestion is now that somehow i can't do my job, i can't be an analyst because i have been forth coming, i have been honest with people in saying my honest feeling reaction at the sight of people dressed in muslim garb. i'm not talking about a businessman who is muslim getting on a plane dressed like -- how why know? but what i'm saying to you, lanny, is it looks like you have got some kind of libera

i'm not afraid that muslims will be the muslims will overrun europe now i don't believe that because. i believe that what we have done in the past several times. the people will stand up and say we have fed up we don't want that anymore and try to push them back and that will be violent i belong to europe and to the european culture and the muslims belong to the places they came from because whenever i asked the majority of the turks i speak to and. i asked them are you german or are you talking even if they are second or third generation they will say i'm turkish the palestinians wherever they live if they live in saudi arabia as workers they say i'm a palestinian and my home is palestine i don't blame them for that i just say ok so if they say they have their roots they are happy there. all the best take your suitcases and go back to where you are happy i will be happy you will be happy now is there anything inherent that that makes it different to other religions and makes it particularly difficult for muslims to integrate some parts of the koran ask muslims not to integrate to giv

i'm not afraid that muslims will be the muslims will overrun europe no i don't believe that because. i believe that what we have done in the past several times. the people will stand up and say we are fed up we don't want that anymore and try to push them back and that will be violent i belong to europe and to the european culture and the muslims belong to the places where they came from because whenever i asked the majority of the turks i speak to and i asked them are you german or are you talking even if they are second or third generation they will say i'm turkish the palestinians wherever they live if they live in saudi arabia as workers they say i'm a palestinian and my home is palestine i don't blame them for that i just say ok so if they say they have their roots they are happy there. all the best take your suitcases and go back to where you are happy i will be happy you will be happy now is there anything inherent that that makes it different to other religions and makes it particularly difficult for muslims to integrate some parts of the koran ask muslims not to integrate to

in fact, most muslim children go to international schools. international schools in tokyo have introduced a you this system enabling muslim children to choose pork-free meals. they also allow lunch boxes. it's just one of many challenges muslims face. they try to make japan their new home. they are doing their best t maintain their own traditions while trying at the same time to fit into japanese culture. >> thank you for your report. >>> what can a robot do for you? in this fast-evolving world, robots will be playing ever-bigger roles in our every day lives. we look into this fast-growing market in our "one-on-one" segment. >> reporter: in our collector psyche, robots are the icons of what we call the future. ever since the ancient greeks, beef's been imagining a world in which machines would free us of the woes of labor. but where are all those human noids we thought we'd be surrounded by? are these robots really anything more than science fiction, or is the future now? to find out, i put the question to one of the world's leading authoriti

muslim. they consider themselves muslims. >> bill: of course they do. >> ridiculous. >> bill: justifying attacks by what al law tell them to do. you can't say muslim extremists. i submit to you and everybody watching tonight after 10 years we got it we know the difference between peace abiding muslims and people who make war under the barn of islam. we know that but, wait, here is the question as i mentioned in the talking points memo. did we say in world war ii we were attacked by japanese extremists? or german extremeists? did we do that? >> no. of course we didn't. >> bill: we were attacked by japanese. we were attacked by muslims. that's who attacked us. >> bill, this is an example of where the elite fall off the cliff in the media and the regular folks out there watching going how -- did that just happen? because they are essentially accusing you of using bigoted language. >> bill: i know. i know. it's so crazy. >> bill, i did some research here. okay? joy behar herself has said the foll

i'm not afraid that muslims will be the muslims will overrun europe now i don't believe that because. i believe that what we have done in the past several times. the people will stand up and say we are fed up we don't want that anymore and try to push them back and that will be violent i belong to europe and to the european culture and the muslims belong to the places they came from because whenever i asked the majority of the turks i speak to and. i asked them are you german or are you talking even if they are second or third generation they will say i'm turkish the palestinians wherever they live if they live in saudi arabia as workers they say i'm a palestinian and my home is palestine i don't blame them for that i just say ok so if they say they have their roots they are happy there. all the best take your suitcases and go back to where you are happy i will be happy you will be happy now is there anything inherent that that makes it different to other religions and makes it particularly difficult for muslims to integrate some parts of the koran ask muslims not to integrate to give

i'm not afraid that muslims will be the muslims will overrun europe now i don't believe that because. i believe that what we have done in the past several times. the people will stand up and say we are fed up we don't want that anymore and try to push them back and that will be violent i belong to europe and to the european culture and the muslims belong to the places they came from because whenever i see the majority of the turks i speak to and. i asked them are you german or are you talking even if they are second or third generation they will say i'm turkish the palestinians wherever they live if they live in saudi arabia as workers they say i'm a palestinian and my home is palestine i don't blame them for their i just say ok so if they say they have their roots they are happy there. all the bats take your suitcases and go back to where you are happy i will be happy you will be happy now is there anything inherent that that makes it different to other religions that makes it particularly difficult for muslims to integrate some parts of the koran ask muslims not to integrate to give

in fact, most muslim children go to international schools. international schools in tokyo have introduced a you this system enabling muslim children to choose pork-free meals. they also allow lunch boxes. it's just one of many challenges muslims face. they try to make japan their new home. they are doing their best to maintain their own traditions while trying at the same time to fit into japanese culture. >> thank you for your report. >>> what can a robot do for you? in this fast-evolving world, robots will be playing ever-bigger roles in our every day lives. we look into this fast-growing market in our "one-on-one" segment. >> reporter: in our collector psyche, robots are the icons of what we call the future. ever since the ancient greeks, beef's been imagining a world in which machines would free us of the woes of labor. but where are all those human noids we thought we'd be surrounded by? are these robots really anything more than science fiction, or is the future now? to find out, i put the question to one of the world's leading authorit

i have didn't go on "the view" to attack muslims. i like muslims. i want them to buy "pinhead and patriots." why would i alienate billions of people nationwide some of whom might pony up money to buy the book? >> glenn: it is that charitable heart that makes bill o'reilly, bill o'reilly. >> i like hindus, i like everybody. >> glenn: the fact that they kept bringing it back to timothy mcveigh. first, timothy mcveigh didn't blow anybody up in the anymore of god. had he blown up anything in the name of god he would have been just as wrong spiritually as he was psychologically for blowing people up in the first place. but they always try to equate extremists muslims with christians. not calling them extremists christians. maybe you know better than i, but i don't believe that timothy mcveigh was extremist. i don't remember the -- >> it's not even a valid argument point, because mcveigh and his little crew, doesn't represent anything. they are just crazy guys, killers, murders. we put them away and they got what they deserve. muslims who attack them on t

he was a muslim wiing spy on fellow muslims in exchange for amnesty. he got off on a plea deal and the fbi heard him as an informant. >> you are dealing with people who've been convicted of or threatened with conviction or found in the act of some kind of criminality. there is everything in their interest to make sure that they do with the fbi wants. >> summer 2003, the infornt showed up at the pizzeria in albany, posing as a wealthy businessman wi tieso militant groups in pakistan. muhammed's wife recalls how persistent the informant was in trying to be friends them. >> this person keeps coming to be in coming to me. i told my husband, it looks like he keeps coming. i do not what his intention is is.> >> he repeatedly brought up the role of militant islam. >> the defendant is recorded saying, look, i'm not really into violent jihad. that is not what i'm about. the informant keeps coming back and sang, are you sure? >> then as his pizza business began to fill, the informant made him an offer he could not refuse. >> [unintelligible] he was saying, i am

european muslims and american muslims are very different in that sense that in this country they are here to have roots, they have few clertacts with the home country, unlike the latino community or other communities, even other asian communities like chinese and indians. muslims, especially those where democracy is not there, they don't see anything there. so all their perceptions is that america is good. i think in other muslims and arabs you see that more often. i think that's part of the reason why they say there's no discrimination even if it is there because they are looking at their reference group is much different. there's also something interesting in terms of the home country affiliation and the role of it. if you look at, for example, pakistanis in the u.k. and the united states, the same ethnic background coming to different places, it's kind of an experiment if you could set up something like that, and you see a huge difference in terms of their experiences. and i think one of the reasons is that how they are perceived over there and here is so different that over there

and most of us muslims are horrified and we don't have our head in the sand like cair. we're not trying to divert and avoid the real reforms. i will tell you, there are many other muslims like myself, reform american islamic leadership coalition of other collisions that don't toe the line of the muslim brotherhood. >> juan: one last quick question for you. when you look at the kind of rhetoric that was coming from the times square bomber where he talks about a muslim war, the first drop of blood, doesn't cair have any response to that? they get me fired but where is their response to a man who is trying to blow up times square? >> they don't have a response. why? because it involves them deconstructing their whole mode

that we should not stereotype muslims and paint muslims with the brush of terrorism. that that's wrong. and i -- in a, but, there has been criticism from some npr listeners of juan's role on fox over time. and i certainly have the sense that they were uneasy with it. >> yeah, was this a matter of constituency people, the people that back npr calling in and complaining to their managers? is that what's triggered this or was this a judgment of values? what was it a judgment of? i can't get to it. >> you know, to play devil's advocate -- first of all, npr doesn't have to hire -- nobody has to hire anyone that you don't want to. you don't have to hire anyone. you can fire anybody that you want to as long as you don't do it in a discriminatory matter. so to play devil's advocate i've been thinking to myself what if someone had gone on fox or another network that was also working with npr and said you know what, every time i walk down the street and i see a black man i get scared and i grab my purse and i pray that they're not going to rob me. people would call into npr and

juan getting fired by npr saying he gets nervous flying with muslims. millions of people feel the same way. why did the "national public radio" outfit sack juan? we have a factor investigation and chronicle the outrage. >> the firing of juan was a total mistake. it sends the wrong message and npr get yourself together. >> also, the factor is calling for congress to immediately suspend all payments to npr. karl rove, megyn kelly and glenn beck will all weigh in on this atrocious action. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone, the factor begins right now. npr has fired juan williams who worked there for more than 10 years. in february of 2009, npr warned juan not to advertise his association with them on this program. and now, npr has terminated juan's contract because he said this on the factor. >> i mean, look, bill, i'm not a bigot. you know the kind of books i have written about the civil rights movement in this country. but, when i get on a plane, i have got to tell you if i see people who are in muslim garb and i think, you know, they're i

there are 1.5 billion muslims around the world, including many millions of muslims here in the united states. what we want to do is see if we can get to some kind of resolution on that. it will not be easy. people have extremely he did views on this. some things are very important. the only survey done on the muslims in america was done three years ago. research found that a vast majority of muslims in this country consider themselves assimilated, american in their values, outlets, and out -- and ideals. they also have a very robust economic debate. they are in the professional cast and doing quite well. all the other hand, polls have shown that many americans are conflicted. half of americans polled say they have an unfavorable view of muslims. the other half say that islam is a peaceful religion. more than half say they do not know enough about muslim -- about islam. they do not know enough about the fate itself. we decided to take a look. we'll have a special program the sunday morning. after that, we will have a life facebook debate. >> thank you. we will be watching that. >> you

. >>> hundreds of mosques and islamic groups invited non- muslims to visit centers in hopes of yelling the anger about plans to open an islamic community center near ground- zero. the event dubbed "a week of dialogue" began last weekend and ended today. >> 9-11 the planes were hijacked and the religion was hijacked and we want to build close to there so people know muslims are mainstream americans. >> mosques are always open to public, but organizers say the project was organized to encourage non-muslims to walk

juan getting fired by npr saying he gets nervous flying with muslims. millions of people feel the same way. why did the "national public radio" outfit sack juan? we have a factor investigation and chronicle the outrage. >> the firing of juan was a total mistake. it sends the wrong message and npr get yourself together. >> also, the factor is calling for congress to immediate the factor is calling for congress to immediately suspend all payments to npr. karl rove, ma megan kelly and glenn beck weigh in. you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ >> i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. a disgraceful decision by the national public radio outfit that is the subject of the talking points memo. npr fired juan williams. in february of 2009 npr warned juan not to advertise his association with them on this program. and now, npr has terminated his contract because he said this on theto factor? >> i mean look, bill, i'm not a bigot. you know the kind of books i have written about the civil rights movement in this count

members of the muslim brotherhood put that out. the state sent diplomats to the government of the defenders -- of the offenders and demanded retribution, either that the person goes to jail or that the newspaper is shut down, etc.. recently, the state has successfully lobbied to criminalize some of the criticism of islam, and i think it is more successful in europe as discrimination and defamation of religion, so the proposition that islam is tolerant is not only salacious, but it is also dangerous. why is it dangerous? here in the united states, policy measures focus only on the first group, the militias. when they are operating on the domestic level with homegrown terrorists, that becomes the business of the fbi. the second group of agents, the muslim network, is overlooked. when they are overlooked, they can focus on the activities of indoctrination with virtually no challenge from outside. on the level of the state actors common we have a formal alliance with almost all muslim countries except iran and syria. on the one hand it

-- if people knew he was muslim. we also hear incredible stories of communities to reach out to learn more about its other and find out how we can form a common defense against extremism. >> hopefully with your series we will get a better understanding. diane, we appreciate you talking to us. the first >> 72 today, breezy, winds up at 30 miles an hour and cooler and drier tomorrow. >> nice weekend to look forward to. thank you for being here.

juan getting fired by npr saying he gets nervous flying with muslims. millions of people feel the same way. why did the "national public radio" outfit sack juan? we have a factor investigation and chronicle the outrage. >> the firing of juan was a total mistake. it sends the wrong message and npr get yourself together. >> also, the factor is calling for congress to immediately suspend all payments to npr. karl rove, megyn kelly and glenn beck will all weigh in on this atrocious action. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone, the factor begins right now. npr has fired juan williams who worked there for more than 10 years. in february of 2009, npr warned juan not to advertise his association with them on this program. and now, npr has terminated juan's contract because he said this on the factor. >> i mean, look, bill, i'm not a bigot. you know the kind of books i have written about the civil rights movement in this country. but, when i get on a plane, i have got to tell you if i see people who are in muslim garb and i think, you know, they're i

or the muslim legacy within the european union. in the instance of france for example the french model suppresses the expression of differences and. if you put forth if you manifest you know your foreign culture or religion then you are being seen as disloyal and i don't think it's fair people when people migrate they come with a religion with a culture with a history and there should be room for that it's very unfair to tell people to drop all these very valuable luggage at the doorstep to become french only it doesn't make sense to me of course they have to take this new citizenship extremely seriously and this you know goes through mastering the language and abiding by the law but the vast majority of migrants do that anyway ken what do you think about that. well i think you're missing the point. at the general level it's not about social factors not about or they poor their living bad housing or anything of that matter what what matter is cultural matters you bring with you a culture and that culture is going to define how well

even though williams was quick to point out that not all muslims are extremists. >> there are good muslims. >> reporter: in firing him two days later, npr said it repeatedly warned williams he too often crosses the line between analysis and opinion. >> if you want to be a political activist, you may not, also, be a reporter or news analyst for npr. >> reporter: many muslims call williams' comments religious profiling. >> when you stereotype an entire religious minority and seem to legitimize singling them out as a security threat, that becomes a problem. >> reporter: americans continue to struggle with separating radical islam that led to 9/11 from the mainstream religion. in 2005, 41% of americans had a favorable opinion of islam. now, it's just 30%. 38% view it unfavorably. >> -- killed us on 9/11. >> no. oh, my god! >> reporter: the bitter divide on display last week on "the view" when bill o'reilly said muslims attacked america on 9/11, two of the hosts walked off the set. >> this is a highly toxic political environment in which every comment that anybody makes is instantly a football

this wasn't about muslims, this was all about fox. they hate this network. >> jon: judy, you're nodding in agreement. >> i think this was all about fox. i mean, mara liasson, who also appears on fox news programs, is on-- under a lot of pressure, everyone knows that she's now been targeted. this is about people who are supposedly news analysts appearing on another show that many people find objectionable, many people find too conservative. i don't buy it. >> jon: is there a touch of hypocrisy here in what npr has done. >> when npr analysts go all over the news and do commentary and never get in trouble for it. i think there's a bigger touch of george soros, the eccentric left wing contributor, who gave a donation to npr. >> 1.8 million bucks. you don't hire a lot of reporters, you may pay them for six months, but if there are a hundred reporters to be hired. it's way more than 1.8 million. enough to turn the head of anybody at npr to make them do whatever they want to do anyway, get rid of juan. >> jon: george soros, probably the most

or the muslim legacy within the european union. in the instance of france for example the french model suppresses the expression of differences and. if you put forth if you manifest you know your foreign culture or religion then you are being seen as disloyal and i don't think it's fair people when people migrate they come with a religion with a culture with a history and there should be room for that it's very unfair to tell people to drop all these very valuable luggage at the doorstep to become french only it doesn't make sense to me of course they have to take this new citizenship extremely seriously and this you know goes through mastering the language and abiding by the law but the vast majority of migrants do that anyway ken what do you think about that. well i think you're missing the point. at the general level it's not about social factors not about or they poor they're living in bad housing or anything of that matter what what matter is cultural matters you bring with you a culture and that culture is going to define how

>> muslims didn't kill us on 9/11? is that what you're saying. >> extremists. >> i don't want to sit here now. i don't. >> you're outraged about muslims killing us on 9/11. >> you have just seen what should not happen. we should be able to have discussions without washing our hands and screaming and walking off stage. >> listen to me because you'll learn, all right? >> whoa. well both whoopi and joy returned to the stage after o'reilly said if anyone felt i was demeaning all muslims, i apologize. the fireworks addressed on their shows last night. >> how did we get here? were we attacked by japanese extremists? no one i know, no one wants to insult muslims. but almost everybody i know is tired of the political correctness surrounding the 9/11 attack. the truth is if moderate muslims all over the world would stand with us against radical islam, the terrorist wouldn't exist. >> i was really angry. i thought o'reilly was saying something i construe as hate speech. to say muslims killed us on 9/11, you could say that about

his feelings about muslims. williams who often appears on fox news was asked to comment on bill o'reilly's heated conversation on "the view." >> no! >> reporter: o'reilly angered whoopi and joy so much, they walked off the set. >> when i get on a plane, i've got to tell you, when i see people who are in muslim garb and i think they're identifying themselves first and foremost as muslims, i get worried, i get nervous. >> reporter: on wednesday williams' boss at npr called him. >> she said, what did you say? what did you mean to say? i said what i meant to say. >> reporter: williams was fired but his comments to o'reilly weren't just about his fears, they were more nuance than that. >> but there are good muslims. i think that's the point. >> reporter: npr's chief executive said williams is a news analyst and shouldn't take any controversial position. she said the firing came after several case of williams veering from journalistic ethics. as for what he said about muslims, his former boss that that's between him a

when a muslim converts to christianity, consuences can be dire. gary lane traveled to countries to show those bold enough to risk it all. >> reporter: it is hard to be a christian in a musl-dominanted society especially in egypt. christians were murdered in the streets in the city of luxor. even in the capitol city of cairo. >> in november of 2008, they attempted view are an attack. it can be viewed online on utube. it is sending a clear message this is acceptable behavior. >> mainly targets converts from islam. ask egyptian mohammad hegazy. he and his family are in hiding running. he has pronouncements of death against him all because he became a christian and fought a legal battleto change his religion on his national id card. >> if you don't have the right to choose your own belief, what rights do you have? what freedom do you have? >> hegazy says he was jailed and tortured by egyptian state security ants. >> they hanged me by my feet and beat me repeatedly. they used to torture us with electricity on our gentiles. >> converts from islam try to

direct american intervention in the muslim world the u.s. is relationship with israel and quote muslims do not hate our freedoms rather they hate our policies so if if i could go to you gareth i mean it six years on have any of the lessons been learned from what rumsfeld our own best advice were good they gave us and the u.s. . well the answer is no and rumsfeld was absolutely right on and i think it's very very interesting the observation that you're making which is that the u.s. government ever since then has been going exactly the in the opposite direction which is to use policy instruments that are bound that are bound to. basically exacerbate the problem that rumsfeld raised that is to say increase the hatred of the united states and its policies throughout the middle east and therefore make it easier for al qaeda it's associated groups and allies to recruit people for future terrorism and to get political support before it's for its policies and i think that is the central conundrum of the u.s. foreign policy today ok if i can go to yo

he made comments that some think are bigoted against muslims. now there are those who say national public radio is wrong. here's more from park parker & spitzer. >> this is no first amendment issue. he can say what he wants. the government isn't coming in and say you can't speak this, you're not going to be imprisoned for saying this. the bottom line is an employer is saying we don't want to be associated with you for this reason. now, getting back to your question about why would npr have fired him, i think it's not just a wrong move on npr's move it's a really bad strategic move for npr. this is a media entity for years that has been dogged by allegations of being too liberal so you think they would be at least particularly sensitive to making decisions that will allow them to be targets. >> all right. let's get some perspective tonight from the muslim community. he's now performing on a tour entitled "brown and friendly," and ava brown is also muslim and she joins us via skype from ohio. i understand that you've change yourd mund in the last

it was opened by a muslim, the guru had a muslim to open it for us. it shows why we consider all other religions equal. >> here is a photograph, an image of that, maybe we'll go to break now and when we come back we'll pick up more about this special program about sikhs and faith and sikhs in the bay area. that image of the golden temple is in india. >>> we are talking about the sikh faith and sikhs in the bay area. what does sikh mean? >> the word sikh means learner, student basically. and we consider ourselves learning all the time and therefore new information comes in, we absorb it an use it as we go along. >> these are the teachings of 10gurus which we will talk about more in some detail. >> sikhism is a religion based on the teachings of ten teachers whom we call as gurus. it was founded in the 15th century, and he was followed by nine other living gurus. and guru singh was the tenth guru that we revere . and what he did, was he ordained for the sikhs the form that we see, the identity that we see today. you see, the men wearing turbans and othe

>> muslims killed us on 9/11. >> oh, my god! >> muslims killed us on 9/11. i suppose that means we're now supposed to kill all the muslims? isn't that the tit for tat? no? you wonder why a plan to build an islamic center near ground zero sent the majority of americans into a tizzy? well, when you fill their heads through political war rhetoric for ten years, kill a bunch of soldiers, spend a few trillion dollars in the middle east while not actually defining who the enemy is, well, heck, they're going to find one for you whether you like it or not. ari remains with us along with julie. and along with her political commentary, she is chairman of the political committee in lower manhattan. how important is this distinction? >> this is very important. what bill o'reilly is falsely saying that all muslims are terrorists. muslims are 1/5 of the world's population. terrorist threats to new york city and the country is palpable and real and he's preying on that. >> who is responsible, do you think, ultimately for the fact that there's such a big percentage of the a