>> meacham: welcome to our program. i'm jon meacham filling in for charlie rose who's on assignment today. tonight we begin with the global fallout from the wikileaks release of private u.s. diplomatic documents. >> i think for the most part, these documents are not sort of revelations of things we've never heard before. instead, it's sort of the back story. the private conversations behind the big events. >> i think wikileaks by broadening this to every single policy of the united states has become, in effect, an anti-american foreign policy agent. weakening the state department, weakening the united states. can we recover? yes, we will recover. but it will make it harder. >> when you read diplomats talking about north korea, they recognize that while the public line is complete verifiable irreversible disarmament, nobody thinks that north korea is going to give up its nuclear weapons. similarly, very few think that sanctions are going to be enough to force the iranians to make a strategic change. >> meacham: we contin

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john meacham. >> what you've just heard is an effective narrative. at the congressman has just done is encapsulate what led to what's happened tonight. in the refeud united nations of barack obama. basically he was a crypto socialist if not an out right socialist. that's an effective bit of political communication. it has... >> i would like to make clear i never said anything like that. >> rose: he didn't say that. go ahead... >> he's talking about redescription and that's the narrative that has worked out incredibly well here. i just think that if the president's going to fight back, he needs to do what jack welch is saying which is find a way to coherently and pithily say "this is about growth, this is about the future." >> rose: but it's fair to say and you recognize it vin didn't say he was a crypto anything. >> no. >> rose:. but many people do. >> rose: so here's the question. why... the president is supposed to be a very smart man. the president has command of language. the president has smart people around him. how could this have happened? >>

john meacham. >> what you've just heard is an effective narrative. what the congressman has just done is encapsulate what led to what's happened tonight. in the refeud united nations of barack obama. basically he was a crypto socialist if not an out right socialist. that's an effective bit of political communication. it has... >> i would like to make clear i never said anything like that. >> rose: he didn't say that. go ahead... >> he's talking about redescription and that's the narrative that has worked out incredibly well here. i just think that if the president's going to fight back, he needs to do what jack welch is saying which is find a way to coherently and pithily say "this is about growth, this is about the future." >> rose: but it's fair to say and you recognize it vin didn't say he was a crypto anything. >> no. >> rose:. but many people do. >> rose: so here's the question. why... the president is supposed to be a very smart man. the president has command of language. the president has smart people around him. how could this have happened?

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brown who is often on this broadcast is taking over your competitor, "newsweek," formerly run by jon meacham. what do you make of this and what do you think about your own magazine? >> i so welcome it. i think she's a fantastic magazine editor. she'll do a wonderful job. i think it's not an easy job. any great journalistic institution that can be revived is good for all of us. >> so what do you really think? >> that's what i really think. >> are you scared, are you nervous? are you scared, are you nervous? >> of what? >>> the new cover of "time" magazine "who needs marriage?" >> men do apparently. >> we do. hi honey. we do. >> wee are the weaker sex. it ain't even close. >> i'm not arguing. >> poor women. >>> is the pickens plan the key to energy independence? we'll talk to t. boone coming up on "morning joe." during sign te i can get a cc for just my signature? that's right, right now you can take home a volkswagen for just your signature, like the cc or the tiguan. huh. yeah, plus every vw includes scheduled carefree maintenance. really? that's great. there you go. that guy's pretty good t