the tsa met with -- with hands- on pat down of mike johan's body, the kind of feeling he won't forget. >> the pat down is intrusive. there is no getting around it. >> reporter: while he is a frequent flyer, he happens to sit on the committee of the tsa. >> you think you overstepd? >> reporter: the problem is since tsa rolled out the new body scanners seeing through clothes, it'sel to passengers that get scanned or patted -- it's told passengers to get scanned or patted down and he got both. >> it's not is explained to myself as to why any citizens would have to go through both. interestingly enough, i got phone calls yesterday from people saying well, i had to do both. >> reporter: in the meantime, passenger protests have sprung up cintrusive, a situation of t own making said the senator, because of the agency's lack of explanation. >> and that is not going to be sufficient for them to say this is the way we're doing it now. you have to explain this. this is intrusive. >> reporter: it's a debate over privacy versus security. some -- >> i don't think they should be testing us. >> you h