zuloaga, who's the owner of globovision. he shut down the single most popular network in venezuela, or took away their license. so you're saying that venezuela has a freer press and more of an opposition press than the united states? i've read you say that. >> it has more of an opposition press than the united states, there's no doubt about that. >> explain that. >> you look at the newspapers, the radio, and the television. you add up who reads--well, who are the biggest circulation? who has the biggest audience? it's the opposition tv. >> the biggest circulation in newspaper is "ultimas noticias." this is a balanced newspaper, but more oriented to the government. and the major tv station there is venevision. >> one at a time. >> the major tv station there right now is venevision because of soap opera. it used to be radio caracas television, then the government took control of radio caracas. it's good or bad or not, but what roger said is the government has been also changing all the electoral rules. in july this year, just