the russians controlled the rail link across manchuria. china is very nervous about sovereignty. at the same time its name is very big. so what this adds up to me is that china is motivated to kind of built out its sovereignty, not necessarily in an imperialists equate, but it sees that up to the first island chain and that first island chain is japan, the korean peninsula, right down to taiwan, the philippines, indonesia, and australia. this is more or less china's rifle fear of influence given some the size and its history. that is where we will come into some conflict. because, you know coming to us inside the first island chain is almost all international waterways. they you very much. [applauding] [inaudible conversations] [applauding] >> take you very much. >> for more information about robert kaplan and to read his stories visit the atlantic dot com and search his name. >> a new book out, "blur," how to know what is true in the age of information overload. the co author. in your book, one of the chapters as we have been here before. what does that mean? >> that means we ha

the russians controlled the rail link across manchuria. such china is very nervous about sovereignty. at the same time its map is very, very big. so what this adds up to me is in china is motivated to kind of built out its sovereignty, not necessarily in an imperial listed way, but it sees that up to the first island chain. that first island chain is there to grow islands, japan, have island of the korean peninsula. did this is more or less china's rival sphere of influence given china's size and where it -- you know, and its history. that is where we will come into some conflict. you know, to us inside the first island chain is almost all international waterways. well, thank you very much. [applauding] >> for more information about robert kaplan and to read his stories visit the atlantic and searches name. >> you are watching book tv on c-span2. here is our prime time lineup for tonight. chris hedges argues that the liberal class has been corrupted by what he terms the corporate state. at 8:30 p.m. driven west about andrew jackson and the

the population density and chinese manchuria is 62 times higher than in the russia's far east. and the population in the russian far east is dropping. so that russia cannot altogether trust china for geographical reasons so that, you know, rush is very fragile in areas, even as it has a robust arms industry. [inaudible] >> -- you addressed nuclear proliferation. once iran, egypt, saudi arabia, turkey have weapons within the next 10 years, dynamic stability of the indian ocean is going to change dramatically. and what's going to be? >> if iran gets a few tactical nuclear -- tactical level nuclear weapons, if possible that saudi arabia would pay pakistan to have pakistan