>commissioner murphy: commissioner walker? commissioner walker: i missed it if you explained it, but what was the 24% decrease in interest reflect? >> this is the deal. we know we have been building the budget with a higher interest-rate. based on the question that have come out here, we decided that we would ratchet it down foto where we have been for the last six years so we are not overly optimistic in the interim. i think you would be a millionaire if you knew what the interest rate would be. we just wanted to make it more realistic. commissioner walker: and what is that interest on? >> various fund balances that we have, a deferred fund credit, operating balance, our temporary fund. even our projects. the money that we've put away in the project fund that we take out of our operating funds, we receive interest on those funds. commissioner walker: do we determine where that is put? is that a city decision? >> it comes to the department. commissioner walker: i understand that, but who makes the decision on where we put that

i appreciate commissioner walker. this is a very large issue in san francisco and especially in the district i represent. commissioner walker has been a longtime advocate and community leader in these issues. and my predecessor, a supervisor daily. i will also be holding a hearing on bed bugs. i look forward to hearing the findings of the building inspection commission. we will take that under consideration we want to look at an overview of the current statistics and what treatment methods have demonstrated promising results, and also what you do that has been successful in decreasing bed bug infestation in district 6. we also want to go into a deeper explanation of how the department of public health and dbi are working together to address enforcement of landlords who ignore bedbugs problems and also improve guidelines as to what constitutes an infestation. one of the reasons our office is taking this on is because so many community advocates have taken on this issue and done a ton of work in research and advocacy as

commissioner murphy: commissioner walker? commissioner walker: thank you for the attention. i have heard a lot from small business owners from the mission and south of market that someone is doing a lot of these lawsuits, as you said, existing businesses that have not engaged in tenant improvements at all. i heard about it -- just to give some background to folks out there. this is a good response in try to get this small business commission and mayor's office of disability, and our department, to take issues on disability and access seriously, but also provide the right information to business owners about what those requirements are. so thank you for doing this. look forward to an even more current update for our joint meeting, which i think is february 7, monday night at 5:00, for the joint small business commission and building commission. so thank you, carla. >> one other point that i meant to make, there are other resources available in the community, collaborative resources with the independent living resources of san francisco, to mention one agency that has really w

commissioner walker: thank you. i would love to have a gin diced -- agendized an update from the mayor's office of the follow-up on the committee -- they made a notice that they were forming a committee, so if we could get the update from -- i guess it was the city administrator's office, now the mayor, on that, including the action they are taking on tax for recommendations. and i would love to see on the agenda may be a recommendation about how to speed up getting reports, doing what was recommended about maybe there are certain things we could have as a separate over-the- counter issue. i think that is its for now, for me. commissioner murphy: i talked to ann a little bit about a couple of weeks back. there were volunteers, and i would like if we could identify these volunteers and maybe give them a certificate of appreciation for their volunteer time. again, as i looked at that and read through it, one of the things i noticed was again, the absence of the homeowners and property owners. i still say, and i am alw

walkers. what would permit do? >> would be good for people at education before the start walking dogs and a permit would require the take a class. >>stanley: she's been a dog walker for 15 years. she agrees with the permit process. apparently some of those so-called professional dog walkers are not picking up after the dogs. another problem, some of which many dogs. there are no more prominence for dog walkers and severances go. >> i think dog walkers should be insured, have licenses and following world so there are no complaints. >>stanley: if you're using a service matured their bonded ensured it might save you green in the long run. in san francisco, stanley roberts kron 4 news. >>pam: prif you have a comment or story idea for stanley, just email him at www.peoplebehavingbadly@kron 4.com. >>pam: california stands to gain billions of dollars and federal money. >> the truth is this project would be far too costly to taxpayers and i believe the risks far outweighs the benefits. >>pam: floor th

commissioner murphy: commissioner walker. commissioner walker: thank you. thank you for the presentation and for speaking outside of the whole we are in. this is in my mind a positive step towards restoring some positions and restoring service and actually getting to the level of work we are doing. some follow-up questions on some of the project. you were talking about the permitting and tracking system project and that the 600,000 brings us up -- is it to our total obligation or just the obligation to this point? >> it would bring us up to the -- since we do not have a contract right now, we do not have really an obligation to this point. this is our projected amount that we have that is about two years old, and it does not include a lot of hardware that we may or may not require. it may not be required because we are asking for a host of solutions. commissioner walker: my question is -- how much have we allocated for this project, and how much have we spent, including this amount? >> we, being asked, our department -- we have $5.3 million -- we, being us.

commissioner walker. commissioner walker: thank you very much for enlightening us about this. it sounds like we have the issue of dealing with the room and the personal items in the process of to do them together. >> yes. commissioner walker: who assists with that as far as it folks living in these buildings cannot really deal with this themselves? do we have a program for assisting tenants with their personal items? >> the -- if the individual is capable to prepare the rooms themselves, we refer them to aps. again, it depends if they are qualified for the type of services they provide. if they have a very high income, the likelihood that aps would not send anyone else -- >> [inaudible] >> she said there is also services you can hire, but i think the school pays for it. commissioner walker: who pays for it is one question, but i just want to make sure there is support for helping people with their personal items. >> yes, there are companies with in san francisco that can provide such services by assisting in preparing the room package. >> at what point is it dealt with room by

last year koch industries pac gave $43,000 to walker's campaign, the maximum under state law. a little noticed provision in walker's budget would allow the sale of state-owned power plants without bids which could benefit companies like koch industries. the company told nbc it has no interest in purchasing wisconsin power plants and insisted walker's plan wouldn't benefit koch more than any other business in wisconsin. at the end of the call the impersonator makes an invitation. >> i tell you what, scott, once you crush these bastards, i'll fly you out to cali and really show you a good time. >> all right, that would be outstanding. >> reporter: michael isikoff, nbc news, washington. >>> and in this country tonight, big news about the often controversial issue of gay marriage. president obama said today he now believes the law which blocks the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages is unconstitutional and government lawyers will no longer defend it in court. the law does, however, remain in effect and will remain unless it's struck down. >>> chicagoans have a n

wee hours of the morning will be one step closer to becoming the law of the land in that state so if walker is successful in busting up unions in this state how much longer until republicans succeed in their ultimate goal of destroying unions around the country and most destroying the largest funder of the democratic party and put into place one party billionaire rule in america. again get through ludicrous it's kind of hard to knew where to begin. i mean they're not trying to bust a you'd still be able to go straight out to end the union what they're trying to do is roll back some of the mess of union power that we've established unions will basically end up with the with the power to have a teacher come there's a reason why the unions are controlling basically the public sector because unions turn out voters in the primaries which means basically the bar operators for the democratic party which is why they they are just so powerful in this country should be our taxpayer dollars tartuffe. i just think it's absolutely ridiculous i mean unions are the backbone of america the backbone of demo

institute welcome to you all let's get started thanks and thank you governor scott walker's union busting proposal passed the wisconsin state assembly house in the wee hours of the morning will be one step closer to becoming a lot of the land in that state so if walker is successful in busting up unions in his state how much longer until republicans succeed in their alderman goal of destroying unions around the country and thus destroying the largest funder of the democratic party and put into place one party billionaire rule in america. but again it's ludicrous it's kind of hard to knew where to begin. i mean they're not trying to bust you'd still be able to go take it out to end the union what they're trying to do is roll back a muscle in the massive union power that we've established unions will basically end up with the with the power to have a teacher there's a reason why the unions are controlling basically the public sector because unions turn out voters in the primaries which means basically the our operatives for the democratic party which is why do we they are just so powerful i

what this governor walker is saying, those days are over. we've got somebody representing the people now, and this will be an adversary position you folks -- [everyone talking at once] >> since when does scott walker represent the people? >> he's elected! >> he's representing the money interests. >> let her finish. >> including lots of money from the coke brothers. the unions have capitulated, they've said they would go for the higher commitments to the pension funds, higher health premiums, and he he is saying no he wants to wine out their right to bargain. this is drawing a line in the sand 2012. it's the republicans trying to dismantle the fund-raising arm and the political arm of the -- [everyone talking at once] >> it's going to do for the democrats exactly what the republicans did for the democrats [everyone talking at once] >> immigrants. >> i don't think so. i don't think so! look, governor walker got elected on the platform of through any means necessary, getting wisconsin fiscal house in order. he ran on the platform. he got electe

thank you, commissioner walker , for bringing the topic to conversation. i know that entomologist gail getty has noted that the problem is getting worse. we have heard that from all of the speakers. what she did not say -- it can be tackled through education. the president talked about training earlier. i would see that as fundamental. i would also suggest from listening to dr. johnson's presentation that he broke in 2008 that this should be one agency that handles this would complete indirect responsibility. that would be dph. of course, whatever input from dbi. i recall in the 1940's, my father told me problems he had as a young man with these bedbugs. here, all those years later, i'm back hearing about it in san francisco. i wish you all the best with tackling this. >> hello. my name is fully show. i live in a sor in the mission district. the management company is doing a wonderful job keeping the bed bugs out. we have 80 rooms. by now, we probably have one apartment with bedbugs. as i'm standing here, they're doing our rooms right now. they are doing a

last year koch industry's pac gave $43,000 to walker's campaign, the maximum under state law. a notice provision in walker's budget would allow the sale of state owned power planses without bids would could benefit koch industries. the company told nbc it has no industry in purchasing wisconsin power plants and insisted walker's plans wouldn't benefit koch more than any other business in wisconsin. at the end of the call, an invitation -- >> once you crush these, i will fly you out to calley and really show you a good time. >> that would be outstanding. >> nbc news, washington. >>> now here's a look at other stories making news early today in america. in texas, a dallas police officer has been fired following an investigation into unnecessary force. dash cam video captured the officer kicking a handcuffed suspect in the face and pepper praying him. the incident led to a ten-day suspension for a second officer. >>> in pennsylvania an explosion inside a gas well turned the night sky orange. workers were executing a gas extraction process when several liquid storage tanks caught

thousands have come out over the last week many camping out inside of the state capitol building and walker has shown no signs of changing his plans and fourteen democratic lawmakers have left the state but with poor weather conditions and perhaps most notably a concern over schools being closed how much longer can we expect all this to last joining me from wisconsin is andrew state associate editor at the badger herald andrew thanks so much for joining us now as you've been watching this unfold over the past week how has you know how is the crowd changed has it changed at all over the last week was it just teachers at first and then you saw people from other states come in and tea partiers and the like as well. well it all started on monday when a group of students led by. the teaching assistants so ca should make came up to governor walker's office with valentines and i believe they had hundreds and hundreds of these valentines saying you know we love you we love our school and then on tuesday the protests really picked up people started camping out overnight at the capitol and i believe

and inside the capitol building some camping out overnight now it's all response to governor scott walker's plan to take away bargaining rights from public sector unions somebody he claims will help close the state's budget gap but it's also becoming an all out political war president obama has expressed that he feels that this is an assault on unions scott walker said that he is not going to be bullied and the unrest is spreading as a number of other states have similar legislation on the table and today workers in connecticut and tennessee also took to the streets so the question is which side is going to win we're discussing with me is j.p. frere soucy editor of commentary for the washington examiner and michaele labor journalist and contributing editor for in these times gentlemen thank you so much for being here this rather than you know i've got to say this is pretty incredible because you don't see this many americans going out into the streets every day you know we constantly talk about the fact that you see so many protests perhaps in europe obviously right now we're seeing them sp

i don't know what we do know is that scott walker has said that if the bill is not passed as soon as possible like you said as many as fifteen hundred workers would have to be laid off but he has not been more specific in terms of who these people would be not that we have heard here on the ground and he has also said that he hopes that's not something it is going to come to but if that's something that we're going to take happen we think that the number of protests protesters will increase actually because the people are in a very serious spirit to make sure that their needs are met and the governor doing whatever he deems necessary this time around now last week governor walker had said that he put the national guard on high alert just in case there were any disruptions today we heard from the president of a police union who said that in general whatever orders they received from the governor they would follow them even if that includes using force against the people are there any signs that we might see something like that happen. we have not seen any signs of any sort of violent

what this governor walker is saying, those days are over. we've got somebody representing the people now, and this will be an adversary position you folks -- [everyone talking at once] >> since when does scott walker represent the people? >> he's elected! >> he's representing the money interests. >> let her finish. >> including lots of money from the coke brothers. the unions have capitulated, they've said they would go for the higher commitments to the pension funds, higher health emiums, and he he is saying no he wants to wine out their right to bargain. this is drawing a line in the sand 2012. it's the republicans trying to dismantle the fund-raising arm and the political arm of the -- [everyone talking at once] >> it's going to do for the democrats exactly what the republicans did for the democrats [everyone talking at once] >> immigrants. >> i don't think so. i don't think so! look, governor walker got elected on the platform of through any means necessary, getting wisconsin fiscal house in order. he ran on the platform. he got elected.

to negotiate is a big question because many people here have been saying that walker is not really a negotiator at all he hasn't been able to negotiate with anyone be the protests or the democrats he just what this bill slapped down on the table and has really been refusing to negotiate so whether or not the democrat showing up is going to play any role is a big question for people here now as you mentioned these protests are going on to their second week so what's the media presence like there you know is this the center of attention or is is some of the media starting to weigh in. this is also an interesting aspect of what has been going on here because we're seeing a lot of the mainstream media channels really pushing it back and forth and blaming as always the republicans the democrats this and that and really making this into something that it's really not at this point because this is about the people mobilizing and really trying to fight for their democratic rights and in terms of their presence here on the ground we have seen several satellite trucks but it was interesting to

union members say the governor walker wants to bust up the union. on wednesday president obama stood the wisconsin pot by describing walker's actions as a assault on the union. on friday, speaker john boehner weighed in on facebook, saying the president attacked governor walker for attempting to rein in state spending, then he said, call off th>> right on! look, the state governors are in fiscal disasters, just the way the federal government is? a fiscal disaster. they have to balance their budgets and that's exactly what this governor and and the new republican legislature in wisconsin were elected to do, just two short months ago. what this governor is trying to do is rein in the power of government unions and reduce the size of government overall. guess what, john? there is no money! there is no money in these states! the party is over. and the governor is calling -- [everyone talking at once] >> the other side gets to weigh in. >> he said there is no more money. >> the unions refuse to negotiate with the governor of a reduced compensation so the

but that's not what governor walker is doing. he's saying, i won't talk to you. i'll talk to all my big contributors, he talked to the coke brothers, but he won't talk to plies. the five states in this country that prohibit collective bargaining by state employees, have a collective debt right now of $222 billion. this isn't about employees. this is about the economy. what we need to do is create jobs and that's what we should be doing. >> governor barbour, is this an idealogue? or is it getting serious about shared sacrifices? >> it is about budgets. it is about the fact that wisconsin, like many states is broke. and the idea is okay, let's make a very narrow agreement over wages and for one year, is going to solve the problem. governor walker understands, as every governor understands, it is not enough just to kick the can down the road the next year. because these problems snowball. they cascade. and that's why it's critical to ge get ahold of this. for most states -- >> but his argument is that the unions are so unreasonable, they won't ultimately make conces

which maybe is a little bit of a stretch right there calling scott walker a dictator but they're saying you know they were the american people were the american worker we want to take the democracy back so do you know it could be a turning point where either they win or they lose and we're going to see this same move happen across many states i mean right now there are similar bills being introduced in many states and i do think this could be a turning point as far as people's awareness. what's going on this bill in wisconsin is not that different from some bills in ohio and in missouri and in ohio actually today thousands of people turned out to protest a bill there. whether we're going to be able to win this i don't know given a lot of states. last november's election a lot of states flipped to republican control in some states it's just going to be really hard to stop but what we can do is send a message that you know if you're a republican state legislator from a swing district two thousand and twelve might be a little uncomfortable for you but how do you think that up until now the

commissioner walker: move to adjourn. >> second. commissioner walker: all in favor? we are now adjourned. >> the court is now accepting applications for the civil grand jury. this investigative watchdog body is comprised of 19 public spirited citizens. >> we are seeking candidates from all walks of life, 18 or older, who will bring to the grand jury a wide spectrum of talent, ideas, and issues of concern. >> for more information, visit the civil grand jury website at sfgov.org/courts or calll >> the public wants to access particular information about your house or neighborhood we point them to gis. gis is a combination of maps and data. not a graphic you see on a screen. you get the traffic for the streets the number of crimes for a police district in a period of time. if the idea of combining the different layerce of information and stacking them on top of each other to present to the public. >> other types of gis are web based mapping systems. like google earth, yahoo maps. microsoft. those are examples of on line mapping systems that can be used to find businesses

stand with walker. host: the dads have been on the airwaves -- these ads have been on the airwaves on both sides of the aisle. guest: you need not tell the people of wisconsin that the cowger brothers are involved -- the koch brothers are involved in this. it is a good indication that this is, again, about hard-core partisan politics. president obama has nothing to do with this but to -- this political battle in wisconsin. invoking him in and had to move the debate is a good indication of how flimsy their case is. the working men and women of wisconsin over a week ago said, if this is about the budget, we will solve the problem. yes, we took a 3% pay cut during the last budgeting, but we are willing to do what is necessary to of wisconsin forward. if they offered to pay exactly what the governor asked on -- they offered to pay exactly what the governor and on pension and on health care. it is up to the governor to make some sort of concession, or at least even sit down. that is the thing. he has not eve

is this just about balancing the budget, juan, or is government walker -- governor walker trying to take back the powers of the public employee unions? >> rich says this is a bogus crisis and it is dreamed up. the reality is wisconsin does have a budget crisis and it is looming and the public service workers have a very generous pension plan. the requests in terms of negotiating about how much they contribute or the fact that they don't contribute anything in some cases is totally legitimate. this was a reasonable thing for the governor to be doing. but once you come to the idea that he has to take away collective bar gaining especially from teachers i think that lots of people say wait a second, if you want to negotiate, negotiate. let's to this in a kind of shared sacrifice way but you can't just bully people around. that is why you see the people rushing to the square and the 14 democrats disappear from the legislature to try to stop walker. the teachers right now are in trouble across wisconsin and i think across the country. the public support for unions is on a historic low and i t

you know, i think governor walker and governor kasich in ohio, governor daniels in indiana, they feel that by weakening or eliminating collective bargaining reports for public employers, for teachers, for sanitation workers, it will give them the flexibility to, you know, do what they want. they want to -- they figure they won't have to pay as much for cities and states won't have to pay as much for health coverage or be as generous on vacation days. might be able to privatize operations and save money that way. but the united nations, i think, also have a point that these are all -- republican governors, republican lawmakers doing this. these folks saw how unions saw how $7 million in the elections to try to help democrats and when they speak to labor leaders, they say this is political payback. they say governor walker and others are trying to cripple unions and make them much weaker, not just at the bargaining table but also in the nation's elections. >> how do you think this plays out? what do you think the end game is here? >> it's really unclear, maria. governor walker has reall

just a little bit ago republican governor scott walker came out. he defiantly compared the tens of thousands of state employees who are protesting here at the state capitol with what he said were the hundreds of thousands of workers who stayed on the jobs. he made it clear he is not budging. >> show me what democracy looks like. >> this is what democracy looks like. >> reporter: at the wisconsin state capitol thousands of students, teachers and union members joined for a fourth straight day of mass protests. they're denouncing governor scott walker's plan to attack a projected $3.6 billion budget deficit. >> he's not thinking. he could sit down and rationally discuss this, but he's a chicken. >> we're not here for money an salary, it's for rights. >> reporter: the most controversial parts of walker's proposal would limit state workers collective bargaining rights and increase how much they pay for their pensions and health insurance. it would exempt police, firefighters and state troopers, groups that endorsed walker in last year's election, but no

commissioner walker: move to adjourn. >> second. commissioner walker: all in favor? we are now adjourned. >> thanks for coming today. we are announcing are temporary homeowner's property tax reduction program. this is what most assessor's up and down the state are doing. homeowners are reliable -- of all property owners are eligible for a temporary, 1-year property-tax assessment reduction if they believe or if we believe dave -- the assess the value has fallen above their market value, which means that the value would be lower than the market value. in general, homeowners who are eligible, chances are, they purchased homes after 2003. we do get applicants who have owned homes since 1995 or earlier. in general, anybody who is owned their home prior to 2003, they are doing well, which is good news. chances are the market value is higher than the assessed value, meaning the property appreciate it. people we are able to offer little relief for, the sad news is, their homes have depreciated. there will be a little bit of relief for them. in general, last year, we saw 640

you're inspiring the people of indiana, who are living through the same attacks. >> woodruff: walker wants most state employees to pay half of their pension costs and half of health care costs, while eliminating union bargaining. without an agreement, walker has warned that 10,000 public workers could lose their jobs. >> we've got to balance it now. and for those unions that say they want to negotiate, i think it's pretty disingenuous. >> woodruff: on thursday, republicans were poised to pass a bill enacting walker's plan. but the vote has been delayed indefinitely because more than a dozen senate democrats fled the state, gathering in neighboring illinois. state police went searching for them today, as wisconsin's senate minority leader mark miller spoke from an undisclosed location. >> we left the state so we were out of the reach of the wisconsin state patrol, which has the authority to be able to round us up and bring us back into the legislature. >> woodruff: governor walker has called the boycott a stunt and vowed not to concede. >> the state senators who are hiding out down in

>> my assumption is that governor walker will eventually win at some point, another. it will be a very sad time, i think, for most of the folks there now he has left out police and firefighters this time. it depends on how people react in wisconsin to this, who they blame, when it does not turn out to be wonderful, and when they notice that there are no-bid contracts put into the same bill. it also depends on whether the labor movement can pull itself together and have a pr message that makes sense. >> some of the people who are not members of the union -- why should i be paying for their benefits? nobody is paying for my benefits. the governor is asking for a much smaller contribution that i have to make. you understand the resentment. >> when you get 2.5 million americans who have lost health- care benefits from employers that it did hate them, it is understandable. but let's be blunt, they bought off -- states, employers -- public employees, who do not come up with wages for the private sector. college-educated workers and the public sector could not make what coll

. >> governor walker overplayed his hand. he needs to back off. it's going on in columbus now and we're going to continue to fight this until the laws are withdrawn. >> vicki: up more than 1000 supporters showed up. from the bay area to the nation's capital there whether unions fighting for rights. " some and the hayes tells us what is next. >> reporter: the next step for wisconsin budget bill is the state senate. a process that is the more contentious than 14 democratic senators that are opposed to the legislation to remain at of state. republican gov. scott walker urged them to return to the capital. >> i am not asking people to agree with me. what i am asking for is for 14 state senators to do what their colleagues and assembly have done over the last several days. come back and have the vote. >> reporter: they continue to it showed " shame " we -- covering pension and collective bargaining by state employees. in washington at the national governors' association meeting verlaine's democratic governor criticized republicans in wisconsin. them up