>> i think everyone in egypt, not just my father, but everyone in egypt, especially the older generations, for a period of time they just looked at the younger generations with admiration. and this is something that the younger generations are not used to in egypt. we are not used to older generations thanking us for our efforts and feeling like we did something. so obviously my father was one of the people who were extremely, extremely proud of our generation. and he was also -- him as well as many people from the older generations also joined in the revolution in itself. >> all right. now, as always, within america, enough about you, now what about what you think of us? sarah, what did you think of president obama's speech? >> the u.s. foreign policy, i believe, is completely inconsistent when it comes to the region. also, they decided very last minute to support the people of egypt during our revolution. you know, hilary clinton would say one thing, and president obama would say another thing every other day. they would not decide on what they want to do. >> do you think the general fe

>> i think everyone in egypt, not just my father, but everyone in egypt, especially the older generations, for a period of time they just looked at the younger generations with admiration. and this is something that the younger generations are not used to in egypt. we are not used to older generations thanking us for our efforts and feeling like we did something. so obviously my father was one of the people who were extremely, extremely proud of our generation. and he was also -- him as well as many people from the older generations also joined in the revolution in itself. >> all right. now, as always, within america, enough about you, now what about what you think of us? sarah, what did you think of president obama's speech? >> the u.s. foreign policy, i believe, is completely inconsistent when it comes to the region. also, they decided very last minute to support the people of egypt during our revolution. you know, hillary clinton would say one thing, and president obama would say another thing every day. they would not decide on what they want to do. >> do you think the general feeling

egypt had influence in africa. egypt arrived to the grand lakes in africa. >> the nile was again becoming an important access to egyptian diplomacy. they want closer ties with up stream african states it sometimes cold-shouldered before the revolution. also the suez canal. after the revolution, iranian warships passed through for the first time since the fall of the shah. to the alarm of many, there is talk of egypt restoring relations to the long-broken islamic republic. >> as egypt has transformed and in the process of transforming, that had to be reflected externally in its foreign policy. a policy that is independent, and a policy that is open to all countries of the world. >> the biggest and to some most alarming coup so far for egyptian diplomacy, is the agreement it has brokered between fought, -- fatah, which recognizes israel, and hamas, which does not. the agreement has put the diplomatic momentum on their side. >> we interveedveend and -- intervened and succeeded. this was needed and historically late. i

so tunisia and egypt i would say are could hit us by the security military apparatus but in five other places you've got potential revolution in. the iman in libya and bahrain and syria and iran so no revolution so far but there might be some to come along ben meyer new york what do you think about that i mean and should be thinking about revolution in a positive sense ok i mean we can talk about that too will they be democratic. well what we are really witnessing today in the middle east is what i call a revolutionary changes that is revolutionary changes by definition is whether or not the status quo ante will be restored i do not believe that the status quo ante will be restored so in that there are revolutionary changes whether the military remains in egypt or in tunisia and elsewhere the changes will have to be to have to take place and i think all of our government will no exception in one form or another will have to introduce some kind of reform in order to meet the expectations of the hopes and aspirations of the people in that sense these are revolutionary changes or the arab

of the other countries but egypt a particular country looking for three years by the way. is a sense of entrepreneurship and independence and ironically it was hosni mubarak's. a banker. who had experience in britain and elsewhere who was looking towards developing egypt's economy in this free market well and the military which is now fully back in. and in the saddle. is very socialist minded very good and with its vast economic and surprises under its control and i suspect we will see more of the state socialism that's been in place for sixty years and the kind of entrepreneurship it's necessary to create jobs and create wealth is not going to happen in the foreseeable future mike michael thank you you can had had a long go ahead reply you know you're really easy you can create jobs some good stuff about what i am talking about in the main and we've tried that in morocco is sustainable development project that is you go to villages thousands of them you get a group such as dr six villagers together and they decide on the kind of project they want any kind of project that'

so to me and egypt i would say are could hit us by the security military apparatus but in five other places in the potential revolution in the iman in libya and bahrain and syria and iran so no revolution so far but there might be some to come along ben meyer new york what do you think about that i mean and should be thinking about revolution in a positive sense ok i mean we can talk about that who will be democratic. well what we are really witnessing today in the middle east is what i call our revolutionary changes that is revolutionary changes by definition is whether or not the status quo ante will be restored i do not believe that the status quo ante will be restored so in that says there are revolutionary changes whether the military remains in egypt or in tunisia and elsewhere the changes will have to be to have to take place and i think all of our government will no exception in one form or no will have to introduce some kind of reform in order to meet the expectations of the hopes and aspirations of the people in that sense these are revolutionary changes of the arab world h

of the other countries but egypt reflect a country i lived for three years by the way. is a sense of entrepreneurship and independence and ironically it was hosni mubarak's son gamal a banker who had experience in britain and elsewhere who was looking towards developing ships economy in this free market way and the military which is now fully back in. and in the saddle. is very socialist minded and very good handed with its vast anomic enterprises under its control and i suspect. we will see more of the state socialism that's been in place for sixty years and the kind of entrepreneurship it's necessary to create jobs and create wealth is not going to happen in the forseeable future it might michael thank you you can head to head along go ahead i thought you know you're really easy you can create jobs somebody stop somebody and what i am talking about in the main and we've tried that in morocco is sustainable development project that is you go to villages thousands of them you get a group such as five six villagers together and they decide on the kind of project they wan

and some of the other countries but egypt a particular country looking for three years by the way. is a sense of entrepreneurship and independence and ironically it was hosni mubarak's son. a banker. who had experience in britain and elsewhere who was looking towards developing egypt's economy in this free market and the military which is now fully back in. and in the saddle. is very socialist minded a very good handed with its vast economic enterprises under its control and i suspect. we will see more of the state socialism that's been in place for sixty years and the kind of entrepreneurship that's necessary to create jobs and create wealth is not going to happen in the foreseeable future it might michael thank only you you can go ahead go ahead along go ahead and fight you know you really easy can create jobs somebody stop about and what i am talking about in the main and we've tried that in morocco is sustainable development project that is you go to villages thousands of them you get a group such as five cities going to just together and they decide on the kind of project they

let's say egypt, for example. but when you get to places like yemen or libya, libya's a great example of no structure, no civil society. nothing beneath that leader moammar gadhafi. so the room is filled with a lot of people who are going to be listening very carefully because they probably will have a role to play in this. >> jill, i understand secretary clinton is going to be playing a role as well, she's going to be introducing the president. i know she had some pretty tough words for syria this past week or so. is there a sense from where you sit that there's a sense of frustration that they cannot get the syrian government to change its behavior, that you still have these protesters essentially in the streets who are being killed, despite these warnings that are coming from the obama administration? >> absolutely, suzanne. in fact i was talking with not enl u.s. officials but officials from other countries and they all express this real frustration because what they say is, over the past weeks, assad, the pre

and some of the other countries but egypt a particular country i lived for three years by the way. is a sense of entrepreneurship and independence and ironically it was hosni mubarak son come out a banker. who had experience in britain and elsewhere who was looking towards developing ships economy in this free market and the military which is now fully back in. in this in the saddle is very socialist minded and very good handed with its vast economic enterprises under its control and i suspect that we will see more of the state socialism that has been in place for sixty years and the kind of entrepreneurship it's necessary to create jobs create wealth is not going to happen in the foreseeable future mike michael thank you only you you can even write i had had a long day i had replied. you know you're really easy you can create jobs from top to bottom what i am talking about in the main and we've tried that in morocco is sustainable development project that is you go to villages thousands of them you get a group such as five six villagers together and they decide on the kind of proj

-- like tunisia and egypt. but there were no new things going on with the palestinian- israeli conflict. bettis and they did already two years ago. -- that is something he already did 2 years ago. of course his speech about how he wants to get president assad to step aside -- there are no concrete steps. >> but obama did make several concrete proposals for egypt. >> this is something, in the coffee shop, this was the main thing that was seen as a positive thing in his speech. he was talking about the egyptian debt and the money the arab regimes -- having all the arab states bringing it back. there were tangible things in his speech and positive. >> thank you very much. we now go to jerusalem to our correspondent there. obama of's speech came a day after the israeli prime minister is expected in washington. what is your reaction? >> the one thing that raised eyebrows in israel is that president obama referred to the 1967 peace lines as possible borders for a future palestinian state. this was received very negat

adjust its ongoing democratic iran's favor in recent times diplomatic predicament the revolution in egypt and the highly praised. like iran also. praying and. isolated iran right now for a fine your partners and building alliances has already turned in your brain has doing something to go in there relations was highlighted. went to war ship sailed through the suez canal for the first time in thirty one years the shit uprising and also works to iran's advantage to run speaks out in support of protestors who struggle against the so no ruling class. bricklaying and washington's behavior was strongly condemned by this occurred probably why should a monarch family. people each not really should cast their vote in the ballot box and anyone who is elected. will be the leader whether this sense of justice is not applied to ceiling which continues to suppress dissent is cluing not interested in losing one of its allies in the interim as has been reported that iran has provided the syrian authorities that ability prize in dealing with by scale dissent all the while washington is watching we are wat

now turning our attention from egypt to syria but there are reports the u.s. is going to impose sanctions on bashar assad which first time he's actually been personally targeted what's the what's the scenario what's the future if you see syria well i think i mean bono is the question we all have to ask syria a stalwart ally of the palestinian cause and of course russia has a base in live tartarus in syria and if you just look at syria's allies of the chavez of venezuela. the has been a movement in lebanon we know the united states wants to destabilize syria just as the european union does but the idea that the arab spring if that's what it turns out to be was a spring against those who were against us had you will it is absurd the arab spring if it is one is against us back pocket think pages and you all can say the brush or else is a us puppet dictator and when you say when you talk about the u.s. wanting to destabilize the region there and they say by syria the u.s. is also assad's regime to be declared declared illegitimate what does that have to do with wa

and some of the other countries but egypt a particular country i lived for three years by the way. is a sense of entrepreneurship and independence and ironically it was hosni mubarak son gamal a banker. who had experience in britain and elsewhere who was looking towards developing. economy in this free market and the military which is now fully back in . in this in the saddle. is very socialist minded a very good handed with its vast economic enterprises under its control and i suspect. we will see more of the state socialism that's been in place for sixty years and the kind of entrepreneurship it's necessary to create jobs and create wealth is not going to happen in the foreseeable future mike michael thank you you can think i had had a long go ahead reply you know you're really easy can create jobs from top to bottom what i am talking about in the main and we've tried that in morocco is sustainable development project that is you go to villages thousands of them you get a group such as five six villagers together and they decide on the kind of project they want any kind of projec

for more on that report and what it means for egypt's future, i'm joined via skype by amnesty egypt's researcher. in light of what we are expecting to hear from the president barack obama about his speech on the middle east, specifically when it comes to aid to egypt and tunisia and taking into account what your report has found, what are you hoping he's going to say? >> this is a matter that regards the u.s. foreign policy towards egypt and africa. we have found abuses and violations of human rights have continued in a very bad manner after mubarak has left. this as you pointed out, includes the arbitrary arrest, detention and torture of peaceful protesters and others. >> so do you think -- let me jump in there, sir. do you think then that the united states should be offering aid to egypt if, according to your report, the country is still under a new administration, new regime is still having, i guess, violating human rights accords in that country? >> well, look, i don't want to speak very much about the aid side of things. the u.s. has been providing aid to egypt for a long time. i

and egypt and the arab countries. and in the united nations to remain association now appears to be the soviet union. the very week when the red army is shooting down the people in poland, he concluded, i doubt to seven -- of ever before has any policy been such a catastrophic failure. ike was not sleeping well. his doctor was concerned his blood pressure was volatile and his day she suffered constant abdominal discomfort and diarrhea. the records are so marvelously detail the. [laughter] one day i told one of the library staff that daily reports on the president's diarrhea was more information that i really wanted or needed. [laughter] late in the night of november 2nd, john foster ike was rushed to walter reed wire a cancerous tumor was removed from his colon. saturday morning 1/3 the news from the middle east was dismal. the oil pipelines have been blown up through the syrian and egyptian troops pouring into cairo to defend the capital and the anglo-french air strikes had destroyed the egyptian air force on the gro

the end of egypt's pick take a ship but the start of a sectarian division christians muslims blame opposed to a revolution of leaders for failing to stem the worrying rise in religious violence . and sweden's africa to keep people's private takes. you comes down ordering the country to store personal information. just after eight pm here in moscow you would not see welcome to the program now to retrieve says he'll announce whether he's going to run again for president but not just yet it was one of his answers to hundreds of journalists at a number of media question and answer session the last at over two hours he also discussed his working relations with prime minister putin and how russia is disappointed with nato as actions in libya and he has been following the event. possession went on for almost two and a half hours hundreds of journalists were there eight hundred in fact three hundred of them international all packed into a halt in the scope of what that i mean you was not chosen by mistake it's somewhat of a gem for president medvedev part of his modernisation plan and what it is t

democratic tsunami you're in the see very intense diplomatic predicament the revolutions in egypt and tunisia where highly praised public were also welcomed revolt in jordan and libya. will be isolated iran may actually find new partners and build alliances to run has already turned in your place in his dealings with egypt a thorn in their relations was highlighted and went to worship sailed through the suez canal for the first time it warns there's the shit uprising and crane also works to iran's advantage to run speaks out and support of protesters who struggle against this so no ruling class. claim and washington's behavior was strongly condemned by this. why should a monarch family. the people each not really should cast their vote at the ballot box and anyone who is elected. will be the leader over there and this sense of justice is not applies to see which continues to suppress dissent and learn its cluing that's consistent in losing one of his allies in the region it has been reported that iran has provided the syrian authorities with probability price in dealing with quite sca

abandoning president mubarak and egypt. they're sending emissaries to china to see about possible new relationships with china and other countries in asia. are you concerned about the u.s./saudi relationship? do you think the president should have said something about saudi arabia today? >> i am concerned about the relationship because i'm concerned about the general deterioration of american position in the middle east. when i served in the white house-- which was, of course, decades ago,ut still, within the living span of most americans-- we had four fries of importance in the middle east: iran, an ally; saudi arabia, close to us, dependent on us, we on them; egypt, accommodating; and tkey, tolly loyal to us and na, even a partner with us in the war in korea. think of those four. iran, an emy; egypt, increasingly questioning our approach to the middle east peace process; turkey, ambiguous and saudi arabia, which you asked me about, not trusting us, eling that we are noreliable anymore. that's very serious. >> that's a blk

than in egypt and if if syria falls then jordan will i think definitely i think fall and saudi arabia will be more surrounded than before because right now the saudis have very poor relations with iraq with iran with back rein obviously. in yemen things are very unstable there is a weak central government the north of yemen but who have poor relations with the saudis because of the bombing of their villages by the saudi regime last year and in the south there and their salahi's which will be hostile towards the saudis despite the fact that the saudi ruling family aside life itself so i think that if jordan falls this o.d.s. will be in a lot of trouble especially with the situation in egypt they're not very friendly with the saudis now either so serious that you're very. good job jumping jonathan go ahead i didn't i think that's a big leap to say that because there is this term that. for and used as they call the opposition in syria solid fist that's a pretty binary look i mean it's syria has a lot of people opposed to assad right now there are variances brews in the south there are th

government to blacklist egypt to respond to what they call a sharp deterioration of religious freedom >> there's a lot of attacks on the christian minority in particular, there's a lot of christian orthodox minority. >> they may see christianity disappear within their borders because of persecution. >> particularly because of what happened in the middle east, there's some countries who are facing extinction like in iraq. >> these are marked from the state department for severe violations of religious freedom and the commissioners want to add these six countries as religious persecutors. commissioners say nations will help themselves if they work to end religious persecution. >> there's civil rights and -- and there is security and stability. >> paul strand, cbn news, washington. >> jounbacker joining us now on our washington bureau is nina shai, nina, the obama it means the worst countries in the world for religious freedom if you are designated. what we see in these countries on the list are egregious ongoing and systematic persecution, that's the stator standard, it requires statuto

also this hour the end of egypt's dictatorship but the start of sectarian it's a vision of christian muslims a claim opposed revolution leaders for failing to stem a worrying rise in religious violence. and sweden's efforts to keep people's data private takes a hummer and as the e.u. comes down hard ordering the country to store personal online information. live from the center of moscow this is a hearty welcome to the program about a new treatment here that says he will announce whether he's going to run again for president but not just yet it was one of his answers to hundreds of journalists at a mammoth media question and answer session that lasted well over two hours he also discussed his working relations with prime minister putin and how russia is disappointed with nato as actions in libya and he said ali has been following the event for r.t. . this letter went on for almost two and a half hours hundreds of journalists were there eight hundred in fact three hundred of them international all packed into a hole in that scope of what that they knew was not chosen by mistake it's s

these people were active in political organizations even both for the revolution in egypt. they know what is like to live under an oppressive regime. >> the similarities between eastern germany and the egyptian government are staggering to me. the kind of repression and surveillance of the people of very similar. >> the detail and scope -- the scope and detail on all the people is what surprised me. >> the guide tells the young egyptians it to terminate two years to finally pass a law regulating the handling of the stasi files. he lived in communist east germany and tries to give his egyptian visitors an impression of the difficulties that germany faced in confronting the injustices of the east german regime appeared the young egyptians see parallels -- east german regime. the young egyptians see parallels >> we want to dismantle the secret service apparatus and redefine the relationship between the people and the intelligence agencies. my citizen's initiative will push for these three goals. >> the egyptians tour also takes them to a former prison in east berlin dissidents

egypt is not going to become the puppet of iran. [speaking in native tongue] [laughter] >> translator: hosni mubarak and bent ali found power so sweet that they attacked artifacts. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: i don't know when but maybe in the near future gaddafi will have a heart attack. [speaking in native tongue] [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: when gaddafi had his heart attack and left the country certainly do to the fact that the west helped the people when libya is not going to become a puppet of iran and they won't forget what they have done. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: syria has a nondemocratic government. even the president says syria has become hereditary. [speaking in native tongue] [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: you may find it interesting to note that the people -- the majority of the people of syria are sunni, and for the last 50 years of the minority, the passat family ruling over the people. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: they are tired of the dictators

steps remember the scale of the recent protests cannot be compared to what's going on in egypt maybe but not yet and that's a bit stronger for crosstalk. all right so i always go to the person that gets up earliest for the program that's you in california so i'll go to you first here how is the standing of the united states in the region now and visa v.-e. around because for the last thirty years the united states has just been at odds with the islamic republic most of the point of fanaticism and that we see these these revolutions or revolts being played out in north africa and other parts of the region which you know we don't know if they're going to be anti-american but it's clearly they're not going to be as pro-american as the dictators that have fallen is that to iran's advantage or is it really an on secular question. good morning thanks for having me on your show and to be frank with you i are not certain that i would call them revolutionaries in the region and i am very apprehensive of the term the arab spring because that was first applied to the two thousand and five comme

than in egypt and if if syria falls then jordan will i think definitely i think fall and saudi arabia will be more surrounded than before because right now the saudis have very poor relations with iraq with iran with back rein obviously. in yemen things are very unstable there is a weak central government the north of yemen but who these have poor relations with the saudis because of the bombing of their villages by the saudi regime last year and in the south there and their silence he is which are hostile towards the saudis despite the fact that the saudi ruling family aside i think itself so i think that if jordan falls the saudis will be in in a lot of trouble especially with the situation in egypt they're not very friendly with the sony is now either so serious that you're very busy. go ahead jonathan jump in jonathan go ahead i didn't i think that's a big leap to say that because there is this term that my iranian friend uses they call the opposition in syria solid pissed that's a pretty binary look i mean it's syria has a lot of people opposed to assad right now there are civili

has announced that it will permanently open the rough on border crossing between egypt and palestine i'm wondering i mean this is crazy significant i'm wondering if you think president obama saw this coming if other leaders saw this. coming and if they're prepared for what happens next but i've been following this decision very very carefully first of all that decision is taken in consultation with purview of in washington the. church and business the point of not being the need to promise to open border. but in effect what we see though and that look across a big humanitarian ship to gaza it's a lot of the port of oil. and they have to call ricky refused transit through the through the border crossing. they have been told that they have to go through israeli you know through an israeli transit point so that in effect i i i will believe it when i see it but this opening up proper border is also something which is which has been you know which has been concocted by washington and tel aviv and it is a revision rather than a cancellation of the two thousand and seven agreement between i

however, when it came to tunisia and egypt, then all he had to leave. posting mubarak had to listen to people. however, it looks like they have closed their eyes and ears when it comes to this she has been killed and bahrain and in yemen. [speaking arabic] >> translator: what kind of behavior should we have towards nondemocratic government? [speaking arabic] >> translator: i am not talking about yemen, bahrain and iran. i am talking in general. [speaking arabic] >> translator: the worst solution is a military attack. [speaking arabic] >> translator: remember that democracy is not merchandise to be exported to a country. [speaking arabic] >> translator: democracy cannot be purchased and sent to another country. [speaking arabic] >> translator: therefore, war and military attacks are nondemocratic countries should be forgotten. [speaking arabic] >> translator: to take taters actually like to be attacked by the foreigners so that on the excuse of national security, they can put away their opposition. set [speaking arabic] >> translator: they are not correc

policy so what he was telling to the muslims in north africa specifically egypt tunisia and egypt and egypt was either you go along with the neo liberal globalisation guarded by us or we will take you into the level of being treated in the international community like a syria were like an iran and it requires a long discussion but it's absolutely threatening and he's lost his appeal and he should have just stayed silent he said nothing productive and certainly a good discussion but i do have to say just because you mentioned it mentioned a couple times the i.m.f. the world bank a lot of people were surprised at least that he spoke about debt forgiveness that's something that doesn't come up very often unfortunately now we are out of time at us absalom one hundred it chief analyst of islam policy dot com joining us from morocco. well there are so many believe that these strong words may not translate into action you just heard from eunice and there's other people too people who say it's unclear what's going to be next certainly the rifts that the president spoke about run deep and so w

but there is little satisfaction indicate if egypt. seriously five lives square three become an enemy barracks resignation so egypt in mysterious and christians turn on each other. better we want justice we want equal rights because in institutions in businesses police and army and politics they work for centuries the coptic christian minority has felt discriminated in a country dominated by eighteen million muslims the revolutionary euphoria has brought a desire for change and the ball people have to sit freedom and they like it now we are clearly fed up of the situation. tensions in the past month have left dozens killed scores injured and several churches burned this muslim woman and her entire family had been welcome in liberation until her twenty four year old son was killed in the street by a brick thrown during sectarian clashes in baghdad and more than flashpoint as years of syrian religious tension boil over so how can we know mubarak was a dictator and maybe he was corrupt police to have been able to sleep and our children ar

what is happening in egypt? this revolution that we have seen that has occurred that has helped women in any way in terms of improving their rights or their status in society? >> you know, it's absolutely outrageous, suzanne, because more than 800 egyptians died, and thousands were injured. to get rid of mubarak. but essentially what has happened is we have replaced mubarak in egypt with a supreme council, a supreme military council. it not only sexually assaults women, but also tortures people, detains people, puts hundreds of civilians in military jails and on military trials. in egypt today, five journalists were called in for questioning, which was then called a chat with the military, because they dare to criticize the military. three judges are being questioned by the military, because they spoke to the media without permission. it's absolutely outrageous. >> so mona, for those of us who are listening to you, and many americans in the audience who are listening, wondering should the united states -- should

than in egypt and if if syria falls then jordan will i think definitely i think fall and saudi arabia will be more surrounded than before because right now the saudis have very poor relations with iraq with iran with bahrain obviously. in yemen things are very unstable there is a weak central government the north of yemen who these have very poor relations with the saudis because of the bombing of their villages by the saudi regime last year and in this out there and they're salahi's which are there hostile towards the saudis despite the fact that the saudi ruling family is itself so i think that if jordan falls the saudis will be in a lot of trouble especially with the situation in egypt they're not very friendly with the soviets now either so serious that you're very busy. go ahead john jump in jonathan go ahead i didn't i think that's a big leap to say that because there is this term that my aronian for and use as they call the opposition in syria solid fist that's a pretty binary look i mean it's syria there's a lot of people opposed to assad right now there are variances druze in

president mubarak is gone but there is little satisfaction indicate a free egypt. fear is louis fide on tahir square through a common enemy barracks resignation so egyptian muslims and christians turn on each other. that's why we want justice we want equal rights because in institutions in businesses police and army and politics in the world for centuries the coptic christian minority has felt discriminated in a country dominated by eighteen million muslims the revolutionary euphoria has brought a desire for change that the people have to sort through them and they like it now we are kind of fed up of the situation that. tensions in the past month have left dozens killed scores injured and several churches burned as a muslim woman and her entire family had been welcome in liberation and to her twenty four year old son was killed in the street by bricks thrown during sectarian clashes in nevada a northern flashpoint as years of syrian religious tension boil over sorrow we know mubarak was a dictator maybe he was corrupt not at least we've been able to sleep and our

president mubarak is gone but there is little satisfaction in dictator free egypt. previously unified on the theory of square through a common enemy and barak's resignation so egyptian muslims and christians turn on each other. we want justice we want equal rights. and institutions in businesses police and army and politics. for centuries the coptic christian minority has felt discriminated in the country dominated by eighteen million muslims a revolutionary euphoria has brought a desire for change. people have to sit freedom and they like it now we are kind of fed up of the situation. tensions in the past month have left dozens killed scores injured and several churches burned there's a muslim woman and her entire family had been welcome in liberation until her twenty four year old son was killed in the street by a brick thrown during sectarian clashes in baghdad and northern flashpoint as years of simmering religious tension boil over plus how we know barak was a dictator maybe he was corrupt but at least we have been able to sleep and our children were alive we n

and we have an upper egypt system of vendetta. so i think that people had this kind of vendetta that they want to get to the regime, but not violently but by removing mubarak, and his regime from the office. >> and, of course, in egypt and tunisia the army side against the dictator. >> the army did not take sides. the army was neutral. .. >> and the army had to violently disrupt the sit-in in tahrir. that was few weeks ago after the revolution was over and after mubarak stepped town. >> before i take the next question, did you have anything to add to that one? >> i think it's important to compare different countries' experience and events. there is a lot of concrete differences. but i also find something in common. what i find really intriguing, the egyptian experience, is that the whole protest -- the protesters remained peaceful and restrained despite people died, and there's no really identified leaders, organizing committees or infrastructures with an organizational capacity behind such a mass mobilization and achieved as a po

>> because he was referring to countries, such as egypt. countries such as libya, syria. it is important to remember there are many people who are not muslims. >> egypt has more non muslims, more religious minorities than america has non christian minorities. same thing with syria and lebanon. they have millions, way over 15, 20 million people aren't muslim. when he called them a muslim country, you ignore everybody else. we are going to relate to the pivot of islam. it sidelines, many muslims who don't want to brought up primarily, politically they would say, i am an egypt or iraqi or curd, politically a muslim. the president keeps imposing this framework on politics of -- that is political islam and bad for christians in the area. >> real quickly, we have a few seconds, the muslim brotherhood in egypt announced they were going to hire a christian cops to serve as president of the muslim brotherhood party, is this a farce? is this window dressing, or are you encouraged by this? >> it is probably sincere. the muslim brotherhood probably thinks its policies would be good.

he was a better friend to dictators than he is to the new egypt, this sort of thing. ny people commented on the fact that he made no mention of saudi arabia, etc. ry few people were talking about the peace process, which again, i think it is ironic. you know, the way my father taught me to fill a hole is one shovel load at a time. i think that the united states and the esident's speech is important in the sense that he tried to reorient us and give us an opportunity to try to make amends in some ways by being better partners with a democratic egypt than we were with an autocratic one. there are many things more that the president can do, but i think what was appropriate in the speech was to focus on egypt and tunisia in terms of what we are doing. i think to recognize the weight of egypt and the potential of tunisia was extremely important. and the way in which he is intending to leverage the europeans and others -- i do wish he would have talked about what the gulf can bring to the table, because i know that there is extreme reluctance onheir part to help egypt. your

how stable would you say egypt is right now? >> certainly egypt is unsettled. certainly security has declined and more importantly there's the perception that there is a crime wave and that's partly because the security forces are not back doing what they're supposed to do. they're the ones who were defeated in this revolution. and there are economic issues, tourism is down significantly and there are these kinds of concerns. the fruits of revolution, unfortunately, take some time to be realized and i think that's the condition right now in egypt >> warner: but if there's a power vacuum other than this military council do you think the country is going to become more and more unstable in what's your view of the stability question as it moves towards these elections? >> well, that's exactly the reason why the military council wants to have the election. i think they don't want to be holding the bag as the economic situation deteriorates. the good news is that just in the last week there's been a lot of economic assistance for egypt. president obama announced a s

how stable would you say egypt is right now? >> certainly egypt is unsettled. certainlsecurity has declined and more importantly there's the perception that there is a crime wave and that's partly because the security forces are not back doing what they're supposed to do. they're the ones who were defeated in this revolution. and there are economic issues, tourism is down significantly and there are these kinds of concerns. the fruits of revolution, unfortunately, take some time to be realized and i think that's the condition right now in egypt >> warner: but if there's a power vacuum other than this military council do you think the country is going to become more and more unstable in what's your view of the stability question as it moves towards these elections? >> well, that's exactly the reason why the military council wants to have the election. i think they don't want to be holding the bag as the economic situation deteriorates. the good news is that just in the last week there's been a lot of economic assistance for egypt. president obama announced a sig

it's been inspired by these movements in egypt and tunisia. i personally am very optimistic about the future, but more the longer-term future than the near-term future. and i hope that some of my remarks have been able to shed some light on the internal sort of politics of iran and the obstacles, um, that lay in the way of a democratic transition in the coming, in the coming months and years. thanks. [applause] >> thank you, nader. next we will hear from professor ervand abrahamian. >> i want to address the question, what can we do to help the green movement. by we, i mean either iranians or non-iranians living in the the united states. the conventional answer to this question is, we can help the green movement by getting our president obama to be forthright, speak directly on the issue of suppression in iran, that every time heads are broken in iran, he should be at the podium helping and speaking on behalf of the protesters. in addition to this, the argument is often made that the best way to help the reform movement in iran is to have econo

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so basically the whole middle east would potentially change. >> egypt, we did the show from egypt last week, and i was struck by how unfinished that revolution seems. i mean, we've stopped paying attention, but you go there, and it's still very much an ongoing question about what's going to happen. >> we're in a critical moment, fareed. and it's one that has to be dealt with not by speech and not by writing a check but with really active, smart and subtle diplomacy. what is this moment? the egyptian army, which is the authority, has basically set a pathway forward of how egypt progresses from tahrir square. first we have parliamentary elections. then the parliament will write a new constitution or sign people to do it. and then we'll have presidential elections. sounds good on paper. here's one problem. the only people organized now for the parliamentary election which has been set for september are the muslim brotherhood because they've had a party living underground. basically i wept to their headquarters. they inaugurated last week. beautiful building. they're happy to give you a to

union egypt want to. run on the one on the other hand they want to establish a new relationship with us we're not so sure about the new government. so ironically while rushing to the thought it was creating a safer middle east its closest ally israel is suffering a recent poll found that fifty four percent of egyptians want to see the egyptian is really peace treaty cancelled a statistic that has his ratings terrified and missing the old wooden. the r t and the palestinian authority. so let's talk about egypt for a little a little while and certainly what we've seen a lot going on there and wondering dan what do you think will happen how the elections in egypt will change things if at all. well everyone who cares about the region has to be very concerned a lot of people have been very optimistic simply without cause to me the fact is that the most well organized gyptian group is the muslim brotherhood who are let's face it both anti-american and anti israel by temperament they're also anti-semitic in fact

so basically the whole middle east would potentially change. >> egypt, we did the show from egypt last week, and i was struck by how unfinished that revolution seems. i mean, we've stopped paying attention, but you go there, and it's still very much an ongoing question about what's going to happen. >> we're in a critical moment, fareed. and it's one that has to be dealt with not by speech and not by writing a check but with really active, smart and subtle diplomacy. what is this moment? the egyptian army, which is the authority now, mubarak having been ousted, has basically set a pathway forward of how egypt progresses from tahrir square. first we have parliamentary elections. then the parliament will write a new constitution or sign people to do it. and then we'll have presidential elections. sounds good on paper. here's one problem. the only people organized now for the parliamentary election, which has been set for september, are the muslim brotherhood because they've had a party living underground. basically i went to their headquarters. they inaugurated last week. beautiful buildi

egypt want to. the way it has been on the one hand but on the other hand they want to establish a new relationship with hamas we're not sure about the way that the new egyptian government will act so ironically washington felt it was creating a safer middle east its closest ally israel is suffering a recent poll found that fifty four percent of egyptians want to see the egyptian israeli peace treaty cancelled a statistic that has his ratings terrified and missing the old wooden more new policy r.t. on the palestinian authority so let's talk about egypt for a little a little while and certainly what we've seen a lot going on there and wondering dan what you think will happen how the elections in egypt will change things if at all. but everyone who cares about the region has to be very concerned a lot of people have been. very optimistic seemingly without cars to me the fact is that the most well organized egyptian group is the nozzle brotherhood who are let's face it both anti-american and anti israe