they could probably buy and sell george bush. and then she said, and i can't say what that woman is, but it rhymes with witch. no, i'm sorry. i can't say what that woman is but it rhymes with rich, okay? of the reporter thought, sort of look at each other and then i'm sure win for the telephones. by the time they landed the comment was all over. and it happened to be halloween, so the reporters said to her when she landed at her next stop, did you mean, you know, that it rhymes with rich, and she said i would never say that geraldine ferraro is and which. dash is a witch. as a poster that some of the reporters that i spoke to disasters -- spoke two years after they said they thought it was a preconceived comment, that it had been planned that mrs. bush was too much of a political professional to say something like that, to reporters. and not understand its implications. they thought she meant to get in a jacket she got in the jeb but then she had something to retreat into, so that was the comment. but interestingly it follows her

remember george h. w. bush? then there was the other george w. bush. >> the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us since! >> this will be his finest hour. george bush found his voice in the rubble of the twin towers, just as president obama found his voice sunday night. it may define how they will be remembered. >>> to talk about this, jeremy paxton it spoke with columnists from the center of american progress. >> has this transformed the president? >> i think this is big news for him politically, and across the political spectrum, but whether or not a transforms his presidency, how he has received a long-term, remains to be seen.

family friend mickey herskowitz then governor george bush the. one of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as commander in chief my father had all this political capital built up when he drove there iraqis out of kuwait and he wasted if i had the chance to invade if i had that much capital i'm not going to waste i'm going to get everything passed that i want to get passed and i'm going to have a successful presidency and. it looks like george bush is ready to lead this country into an voidable war even before he became president. from that's because they have the downing street memo and the conversations with george bush spend one thousand nine hundred nine it seems like the invasion of iraq and the deaths of so many innocent people were preordained it appears that my boy casey was given a death sentence even before he joined the army in may of two thousand. so as you write it was iraq war all planned out back in one thousand nine hundred nine and osama bin laden do just exactly what president george w. bush so badly needed when

bush because reserves credit to i think george w. bush put the strategy in place to help find been osama bin laden the president obama would used to have the right tactic in order to actually catch him so i think they both deserve credit what a lot of what obama did was fundamentally a police action it's what bill clinton did after tim mcveigh blew up the are building and what george bush did was a war action and i don't see how that led to twenty two twenty four guys going into a comma you have to remember that osama bin ladin was in afghanistan he had safe haven with the taliban and because they are headed to what not to us but to a third country well you know that was before you talk about before george bush or tell him we're going to play no right after nine eleven mullah omar said if you can prove if you can give us any evidence that this guy's and we will arrest him and send him over to a third party then when bush started dropping bombs on afghanistan momar held another press conference and said we don't even need the evidence

george bush instead of barbara bush. she had not had any really significant accomplishments on her own, and that they had been taught to do something quite the opposite. mrs. bush reacted with, really, you know, very good humor. she said, well, even i was 21 once. they are looking at things a certain way, and i am looking at them another. there are some historians to feel that maybe this reaction cal flies to irritation, but i did not get that sense at all when i interviewed mrs. bush. mrs. bush also said to me, when this whole above occurred there were many wealthy graduates who said they would never again give money to the college. she said weaver hundreds of letters saying please tell stop giving. this is just the opinion of some. in fact, over time as the issue was discussed things began to turn. i just want to quickly share with you a "from paramount bought back from that time who wrote a very serious, about the speech. she wrote, if the wealthy students cannot imagine what barbara bush could contribute to their edu

george bush did not bomb yemen obama has bombed yemen george bush did not bomb libya obama has been happier you know this is an extension of the the children bush policy in my view and that was located musician poet playwright and political activist. well as president obama address the middle east this sunday will actually mark three weeks since the death of osama bin laden remains face of evil in america for the last decade but now the terrorist death also brought an end to the fear of islam in this country are going to start here starting to delve into the struggles of the muslim community after and one that's. getting drunker which is dead but dispelling caster still causing chills if you're islam and muslims come to talk to some not iraq is alive and kicking there is this this stigma there's this bias conscious and unconscious about muslims and you know alina phobia is at its height in the united states muslims i definitely targeted just because of who they are one of the lead targets of discrimination this sixty one year old in march i mean up to lead to death was recently. hol

family friend mickey herskowitz then governor george bush stated one of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as commander in chief my father had all this political capital built up when he drove there iraqis out of kuwait and he wasted an effort i had a chance to invade if i had that much capital i'm not going to waste i'm going to get everything passed that i want to get past and i'm going to have a successful presidency and. it looks like george bush is ready to lead this country and so on and voidable war even before he became president. from that's because they have the downing street memo and the conversations with george bush from one thousand nine hundred nine it seems like the invasion of iraq and the deaths of so many innocent people were preordained it appears that my boy casey was given a death sentence even before he joined the army and may of two thousand. so as you write it was iraq war all planned out back in one thousand nine hundred nine and it was solidly on do just exactly what president george w. bush so badly needed when he attacked us on nine

he can't credit george bush in any way. >> actually, he did credit george bush and say we should come together. but, you want to raise this question? you are trying to make a big political deal out of it let's look at what really happened. george bush did not put enough boots on the ground in afghanistan. >> sean: oh my god. >> get bin laden in the first place. >> this is not a ground war. >> do i get to finish? this was a navy seals team. >> i'm not finished yet. he withdrew special forces to prepare for iraq. he had a decision to make. he made a decision, iraq is more important. >> sean: i got your point. >> obama made the decision. bill. >> sean: this is obsession. blame bush, blame bush, blame bush, one time they can blame bush -- be >> he invited him to be with him tomorrow. >> look, they like -- the left like's obama's rendition of rendition but they don't like bush's rendition of rendition. at the end of the day this is what the american people were looking for. they were looking for pragmatism over ideology. this was his triangulation. this was his dick morris moment where he

done george bush did not bomb yemen obama has bombed yemen george bush did not bomb libya obama has been gloopy or you know this is an extension of the george bush policy in my view and that was lowkey musician poet playwright and local activists. well there are so many who believe these strong words may not translate into action and even if they do it's unclear who the winners and losers will be many of the refs the president spoke about randeep and is actually going it's a kind reports now everyone's fight for freedom fits washington's time. words could be about democracy actions are about interests as the wildfire of public rage spread throughout the middle east and north africa at the beginning of this year analysts say america's foreign policy in the region has seen a major crisis this is the way policy has been formally for fifty plus years out of this country that we try to look for somebody we'd like to see in power. but washington's old policies could now be seen unfolding in libya a large portion of the leading population is opposing any foreign meddling in their affairs a

george bush is not going to go with him. george bush turned down obama's invitation to go to the site because he wanted to stay out of the spotlight. i would think that maybe it's because you would need hand sanitizer afterwards because you'd feel so slimy after doing this. this is the first visit to ground zero that obama has made since he was a candidate. what is the occasion other than u.b.l.? is it just to sop up some more glory and take a victory lap? it's disgusting. >> i know. i know. you're thinking beck would never have said that if a republican president had killed osama bin laden. there would be no limit to how many victory laps beck would urge a republican president to do if a republican president had been smart enough or lucky enough to kill osama bin laden. but in this case, beck never much for consistency is actually contradicting the position beck took on monday after a democratic president killed osama bin laden. >> you may have seen students jumping into the lake in ohio and rushing to the white house barin

george bush didn't have courage, guts and coolness? only bin laden i mean barack obama had the courage and the coolness? you want to praise the man for the president for what he did, i'm all for that. a great job. but my god where were they when george bush won the war in iraq? why can't they give him the most minimal praise? because of this man's techniques that they condemned all these years, because of those techniques that man is dead today. >> sean: the only one who came close to admitting it was leon panetta, to his credit. pbs you know those americans celebrating the death of the terrorists that killed 3,000 americans, watch this. >> i have a heavy heart as i look at this. i think that a lot of americans are justified in feeling a sense of relief that bin laden is no longer walking planet earth. but i think the celebration should also be confronted with a deep sense of sorrow at all that has been lost over the past 10 years. >> does that moon your stomach turned by the jubilation and cheering outside the white house? >> i think

bush because deserves credit too i think george w. bush put the strategy in place to help find bin osama bin ladin but president obama was used cause i had the right tactic in order to actually catch him so i think they both deserve credit for what obama did was fundamentally a police action it's what bill clinton did after the. mcveigh blew up the building and what george bush did was a war action and i don't see how that led to twenty two twenty four guys going into a comma you have to remember that osama bin ladin was in afghanistan he had safe haven with the taliban and because they are added to it as well not to us but to a third country well you know that was before before during the bush era to know you're going to play know right after nine eleven mullah omar said if you can prove if you can give us any evidence that this guy is involved we will arrest him and send him over to a third party then when bush started dropping bombs on afghanistan but no more held another press conference and said we don't even need the evidence an

that famous saying actually here's george w. bush saying something very much like. we talk about you were talking about. it war is peace big brother's famous statement from eight hundred eighty four it's time for us to a say no more wars without a congressional declaration of war congressional declaration of war we haven't had one since world war two and b. we're going to stop the ones that were already here. crazy alert while the republicans are thanking george w. bush for killing osama bin laden average americans are instead turning their thanks to another man who had to be behind the killing jack bauer that's right kiefer sutherland the guy who plays the no holds barred torturing terrorist under jack power in the fox t.v. show twenty four has seen his twitter page explode with people thanking him for a job well done so little and responded yesterday by tweeting so now his real life is better than fiction the world is a safer place of course this could be oh president obama's best opportunity to silence the death there's abject our killed bin laden in a special ep

george bush is not going to go with him. george bush turned down obama's invitation to go to the site because he wanted to stay out of the spotlight. i would think that maybe it's because you would need hand sanitizer afterwards because you'd feel so slimy after doing this. this is the first visit to ground zero that obama has made since he was a candidate. what is the occasion other than ubl? is there another -- is there another reason or is it to just sop up some more glory and take a victory lap? it's disgusting. >> i know. i know. you're thinking beck would never have said that if a republican president had killed osama bin laden. there would be no limit to how many victory laps beck would urge a republican president to do if a republican president had been smart enough or lucky enough to kill osama bin laden. much for consistency, is actually contradicting the position beck took on monday after a democratic president killed osama bin laden. >> you may have seen students jumping into the lake in ohio and rushing to the w

war than george bush. he continued both of bush's wars and it has now started a third one so there's really no excuse for this at all and just bigger picture when you look at a country that is involved in three wars spends more money on defense than any other country has fourteen trillion dollars in debt with lawmakers unable to come to any consensus on how to tackle that where does this put the country on a trajectory on i mean does this put us in a place where we can just perpetually be at war because it seems that there's one after another of these laws when it comes to declaring war or getting money for war getting approval for war that are either not enforced disregarded made built so that they don't matter well this is what the founders worried about the u.s. becoming an empire which we have become an empire in the post world war two era and i think we could go the way of the soviet union the way of the roman empire the way the british and french empire. you know after world war two i was ivan eland

that paymah saying actually here's george w. bush saying something very much like. we talk about. it war is peace big brother's famous statement from one nine hundred eighty four it's time for us to a say no more wars that a congressional declaration of war congressional declaration of war we haven't had one since world war two and b. we're going to stop the ones that were already here. crazy alert all the republicans are thanking george w. bush for killing osama bin laden average americans are instead turning their thanks to another man who had to be behind the killing jack power that's right kiefer sutherland the guy who plays the no holds barred torturing terrorist under jack power in the fox t.v. show twenty four has seen his twitter page explode with people thanking him for a job well done so little and responded yesterday by tweeting sometimes real life is better than fiction the world is a safer place of course this could be oh president obama's best opportunity to silence the death of years abject power kill bin laden in a special episode of twenty four these guys will bel

bush a left behind bank is a rest of the two thousand and six two thousand and seven beginning of the housing collapse right well it was with the wars in afghanistan and iraq but obama's been trying to deal with and here you have one of perhaps the biggest mistake that bush made or one of the biggest in his presidency which was not dealing with that with the with osama bin laden but tora bora in the fall of two thousand and one after the invasion of afghanistan we are he was where the cia went in and begged president bush to provide a thousand marines to block the escape routes for been modern and he turned them down so the modern was able to escape that provided as you pointed out one of the major reasons that the u.s. was unable to attack iraq because the idea was that. the son of bin laden had some relationship with saddam hussein which wasn't really true but it was something that could be sold because the modern was still out there i mean for now that now that we know about him you know from from the historical record the people who were there were talking to george bush before ev

bush before even the supreme court appointed this president in two thousand. his plan was to invade iraq you know we've had three members of his cabinet now that write books say i mean the first cabinet meeting that was the first topic you brought up in the nine months before nine eleven i don't care about point does the right say ok you know we're going to just talk about something else let's talk about donald trump's hair or is that why the research i think it's well it's ridiculous all your preamble i said so you're preamble this was about bypassing social security this whole starting wars about you george bush inflating ran around in the seventy's leaving it for you and your ideas i mean this this is all i mean not. that's your boy bush believed that in a post nine eleven world the greatest threat was terrorist time got with weapons of mass destruction iraq was a state actor that had the access to build weapons of mass destruction because that's where you were to go there's no question there's no question that they didn't botch the tora bora and no one's g

this exists because of the infrastructure that george bush put in place and that to his credit obama can see it was a very good it was a very bush like move going got going in we have military intelligence and so on but we are world war i wanted you know september eleventh two thousand and one with a massive failure of intelligence was it not. i would say was a mouse everything is ok i know you know you e-mails because george bush was told on august sixth two thousand and one that explicitly was the headline of the memo to the cia so down to specific we're going to be but then i always can determine a strike absolutely nitrates and he was not there back to washington d.c. once he got that memo he wouldn't come back in his town once he got that memo not true that he went to florida i was going to like your interest rate i richard clarke he said it once bush came into office there's nothing actually he could have done to put in place to probably stop the terrorist action from happening i think testified before congress but my larger point is that what he wanted to pakistan that was act

more war than george bush. he continued both of bush's wars and it has now started a third one so there's really no excuse for this at all and just bigger picture when you look at a country that is involved in three wars spends more money on defense than any other country has fourteen trillion dollars in debt with lawmakers unable to come to any consensus on how to tackle that where does this put the country on a trajectory on i mean does this put us in a place where we can just perpetually be at war because it seems that there's one after another of these laws when it comes to declaring war getting money for war getting approval for war that are either not enforced or disregarded made bill so that they don't matter well this is what the founders worried about the u.s. becoming an empire which we have become an empire in the post world war two era and i think we could go the way of the soviet union the way or the roman empire where the british and french empires. you know after world war two they just couldn't

this is the one time it's not george bush's fault. it's shocking. >> we should have classified techniques available to the cia that are beyond the army field manual to give good evidence you are putting our nation at risk for no higher purpose. >> president obama was telling our foreign -- >> why do you advertise to the enemy, here's what we are going to do and nothing else? if makes no sense. >> and they would give miranda warnings. unbelievable. coming up, karl rove tells us, he thinks the white house should release the proof of death. birthers and deathers, more straight ahead. [ male announcer ] an everyday moment can turn romantic anytime. and when it does, men with erectile dysfunction can be re confident in eir abilityto be ready with cialis for daily use. ♪ cialis for daily use is a clinical proven low-dose tablet you take every da so you can be ready anytime the moment's right. ♪ tell your docto about your medical condition and all medications, and ask if you're healthy enough for sual activity. do't take cialis if you ta

pakistan, iraq and other countries have suffered both from bin laden and george bush's war on terror which i hope president obama ends because it's time to close guantanamo and time to stop committing the injustices that we should be better than. because we must not descend to the levels -- >> mona -- >> can i jump in? >> before you do so, mona, you raised a host of issues there, that maybe we can revisit another day. hibah, respond how you reacted to what you saw at ground zero, either by being there, more likely given that you're in albuquerque, to watching it on tv. >> i have to say that when 9/11 happened, when i saw these scenes of muslims celebrating in the street, it was so horrific to me and it was completely distasteful. and i think like mona said, americans are better than this. we need to take a higher moral ground. we need to not celebrate death in this way and instead show people we are humbled by these

remember george h. w. bush? then there was the other george w. bush. >> the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us since! >> this will be his finest hour. george bush found his voice in the rubble of the twin towers, just as president obama found his voice sunday night. it may define how they will be remembered. >>> to talk about this, jeremy paxton it spoke with columnists from the center of american progress. >> has this transformed the president? >> i think this is big news for him politically, and across the political spectrum, but whether or not a transforms his presidency, how he has received a long-term, remains to be seen. >> what is your reading of it? >> i think there are two aspects that will live beyond the short- term but that he will get from the killing of osama bin laden. first is the courage that it took to make this decision, to not send in a bomb but actually send in a navy seal team 6 with all the inherent risks that entailed. the second is that it was a very confidently, competently executed mission. stre

this exists because the infrastructure that george bush put in place and that to his credit obama didn't mean it was a very good it was a very bush move going got going in we had military intelligence since long before world war i wanted you know september let me see thousand one with a massive failure of intelligence was it not. i would say it was a massive everything there is i feel like you know you know you mean it was just because george bush was told on august sixth two thousand and one that explicitly was the headline of the memo that was the cia so to go down to specific one to the guy but that obama was going to terminate strike until the united states and he was not there riyadh back in washington d.c. once he got that number he wouldn't come back in his town. were not true that he went to florida i was very high richard clarke he said that once bush came into office there's nothing actually he could have done to put in place to probably stop the terrorist action from happening as he spoke for congress but my point is that what he wanted to pakistan that was actually a very bus

bush's brother the testing it's literally the congressional. research service gave him a report that said a four hundred million dollar industry is going to become a two billion dollar industry as a result of this act he left the republican party over and by the way they were right so why are they doing it massachusetts and why are they doing it in california through what why are they cracking down on teachers why are they cutting him at cutting the edges it's always easy to cut down on that eight to crack down on the people who are the weakest you know there's a teacher there's not a lot there's a lot of what's wrong with me there's one speech two points i made here one is that be there you know that god created the teachers you know in spite mythology don't make a ridiculously low amounts of money if you compare them on a per hour basis in the amount of work there but we account for some engineers there that can bring their values of most and working americans. and then to really and the reason that they're cracking down on this is because to

war than george bush. she continued both of bush's wars and has now started a third one so there's really no excuse for this at all and just bigger picture when you look at a country that is involved in three wars spends more money on defense than any other country has fourteen trillion dollars in debt with lawmakers unable to come to any consensus on how to tackle that where does this put the country on a trajectory on i mean does this put us in a place where we can just perpetually be at war because it seems that there's one after another of these laws when it comes to declaring war getting money for war getting approval for war that are either not enforced disregarded made ville so that they don't matter well that's what the founders worried about the doers become an empire which we have become an empire in the post world war two era and i think we could go the way of the soviet union the way of the roman empire the way of the british and french empires. you know after world war two that was ivan eland

bill clinton absolutely ran as an outsider, we've already mentioned george bush. so i think that's interesting. certainly a group that's very much working the outsider shtick today would be the tea party. very, very energized by that sense of opposition to a kind of corrupt, mainstream america ha's gone astray. that's gone astray. >> host: how did you grow up, white middle class? >> guest: i did. i did. >> host: and were you attracted to outside causes or -- >> guest: i think it's really hard to be a young person in america since the 50s, especially since the era of holden caufield, and not see yours as an outsider. -- yourself as an outsider. and, certainly, i was attracted to that too. i went off to college in suburban atlanta to the university of georgia which at that time was breaking out with crazy musicians, rem was playing for free in venues around town, and people thought it was the music capital of the nation. so, yes, i certainly enjoyed that and certainly took part in it. >> host: what do you teach here at university of virginia? >> guest: i teach 20th

bush he was president united states and he pushed a strong comprehensive immigration reform back and he got shot down by republicans through back in the senate by john mccain that came to not some say because you know like brock obama had a people trying to stick amendments onto it to ensure its failure but mccain worked hard for it bush worked hard for it so republicans like me support comprehensive immigration reform i'm going to trust this president obama really think that hispanic voters are this stupid or do they think that is he really think if you that they're so cynical he's done nothing about immigration in two thousand and eight actually doesn't he does he's less of your people at the border then i was there i forgot to write he says he three hundred twenty five thousand more people than two thousand and ten than bush he's been normal hard as in two thousand and eight right but sadly this is a strictly political ploy to get hispanic voters the two thousand and twelve campaigns coming up the obama campaign has made it very clear that they're big enough to win it and that it'

bush but there's a bigger picture here and that's focused on the war itself. bin laden is dead today not because of a war but because of a covert intelligence operation a police operation if you will president obama didn't need to invade pakistan on sunday to kill bin lot as for a military invasion is afghanistan and iraq every accomplishment are we any closer to realizing bush's dream of a world without islamic extremism actually no we're not if anything it's the opposite which means the question must be raised does war work or just peace work we've seen peaceful efforts throughout history even right here in america civil rights and right on the middle east in tunisia in egypt achieve far more than work ever hope to do so so the time to put our war machines in the closet for good joining me now to offer some insight in this issue is joe madison goes to the joe madison show on sirius x.m. satellite radio appears weekdays six to ten am eastern time on channel nine sixty nine joe welcome to some degree one twenty eight soon to be one twenty that's right nice big

bush and george w. bush united states courthouse and george mahone federal building. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the rule, the gentleman from illinois, mr. hultgren, an the gentlewoman from the district of columbia -- from the district of columbia, ms. norton, each control 20 minutes. the speaker pro tempore: mr. speaker -- mr. hultgren: mr. speaker, i ask that all members have five days to rerevise and extend their remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. hultgren: this bill would redesignate the federal courthouse as the george h.w. bush and george w. bush federal courthouse and mahone federal building. i want to thank the bill's 25 co-sponsors who represent various districts throughout the state of texas. the former presidents, george h.w. bush and george w. bush served this nation for many decade. president george h.w. bush served starting when he was 18, he became the youngest pilot in the navy when he earned his wings an flew 58 combat missions, and won the distinguished cross for bravery after he was shot down. he served in the house of

pointt what about charles' that there was an attempt to delegitimize the george w. bush? >> going to consider the request now? we are running out of time. >> you may think it was not nice, but it was not personal -- >> when they called him hitler and said he lied as into a war? lying a country into a war is not personal? >> that is not the same as saying he was not a citizen, you are a chimpanzee -- >> it is a lot worse. there is not a serious, responsible republican in leadership who is not relieved and happy that this is over. the top are sarkoz -- the hypocrisy on the other side is staggering. they call to bush essentially a trader, a man who wants to destroy america and led us into killed our soldiers is orders of magnitude beyond birther conspiracies. >> if people don't feel better about government-run health care, i don't think he can win. if gas prices are $5 or $6, he certainly isn't going to win. >> house speaker john boehner a in an exclusive interview with jonathan karl, abc news. >> $6 a gallon of its everybody -- $6 a gallon it affects everybody who was elect

you later -- a story about how the elder president bush, george h.w. bush, went to the cia in 1975. do you want to tell us briefly the story and what you feel the real story was? >> what you mean what i feel the real story was? >> well -- >> what the real story was. >> the false story and then god's truth. >> god's truth, now you're talking. [laughter] george herbert walker bush came to congress i think in 1966. i had been elected in 62. he came in with a wonderful group of people and a new him and served in the congress with them, and he at some point ended up i think running for the senate. and then he went over to china as our representative. and he wanted to come back, and he told president ford that he wanted to come back and serve in an executive position. and i was chief of staff of the white house, and periodically i would ask by the president to send in a group of names to the attorney general or director of cia when bill colby said he wanted to leave, or some other cabinet officer, department of housing and urban development or what have you. and so the staff in the white

we already mentioned george bush, so i think that's interesting. certainly a group that's working the outsider shtick today would be the tea party, very energized by that sense of opposition to a kind of corrupt mainstream america that's gone astray. >> how did you grow up, white will class? >> were you attracted to outside causes? >> writing is hard to be a young person in america since the 50's especially since devotee era of holden coffield and moss yourself as an outsider and certainly i was attracted to that too. i went to college from suburban out into where i grew up to the university of georgia, which at that time was breaking out with all kind of crazy bohemian musicians, r.e.m. was playing for free in venues around town and people thought it was the music capital of the nation. so yes i certainly enjoyed that and certainly took part in that. >> would you teach at the university virginia? >> i teach 20th century cultural history and the history of the u.s. south and i deutsch work for the history department as well as the american studies

hip, hip hooray to george bush. >> >> stephen:, yes, three cheers for george bush. unless you're in a gagged position, in which case try three grunts. folks, it went down like this... [cheers and applause] here's how the whole thing played out. we water boarded khalid sheikh mohammed, obviously after this picture was taken because he clearly hadn't touched water for some time. now, at some point, at some point ksm gave up the nickname of one of bin laden's couriers. we followed that courier and that's how we nailed bin laden, therefore validating torture. but the "i want to be able to look my children in the eye" crowd refused to admit torture is the real hero here. >> torture is not moral. it's not legal. it's not effective. >> it was not torture or cruel, inhuman, degrading treatment of detainees that got us the major leads that ultimately enabled our intelligence community to find osama bin laden. >> all of our experience shows you generate better, more accurate information when you treat prisoners humanely, when you befriend them, when you connect with them. >>

pointwhat about charles' that there was an attempt to delegitimize the george w. bush? >> going to consider the request now? we are running out of time. >> you may think it was not nice, but it was not personal -- >> when they called him hitler and said he lied as into a war? lying a country into aar is not personal? >> that is not the same as saying he was not a citizen, you are a chimpanzee -- >> it is a lot worse. there is not a serious, responsible republican in leadership who is not relieved and happy that this is over. the top are sarkoz -- the hypocrisy on the other side is staggering. they call to bush essentially a trader, a man who wants to destroy america and led us into killed our soldiers is orders of magnitude beyond birther conspiracies. >> if people don't feel better about government-run health care, i don't think he can win. if gas prices are $5 or $6, he certainly isn't going to win. >> house speaker john boehner a in an exclusive interview with jonathan karl, abc news. >> $6 a gallon of its everybody -- $6k a gallon it affects everybody who was electe

george herbert walker bush is of white northern european heritage. but michael dukakis? bush. he's whiter. chris: bush attacked four years later on clinton. >> this kind of attack shows just how separate the bush campaign has become. yes, i did go to moscow by train in 1969. i struck up a conversation with the man on the seat next to me. he gave me a package to take to moscow and leave it across from lenin's tomb. >> isn't it true that you burned an american flag in red square? >> i tried to burn an american flag once. i didn't like it. gave off toxic fumes so i didn't inhail. chris: ask and when bush 43 was running against john kerry, there was those infamous swift vote ads. saturday night life was on the case. >> i started taking sniper fire. three of us were pinned down. that's when john kerry turned to me and said you know, i don't think americans pay enough taxes. >> kerry ordered us not to shoot the enemy because he was against the death penalty. >> everyone thought it was an ambush. john kerry jumped off the boat and chased after them. within minutes, he said these men

let's hope president obama doesn't repeat the mistakes of george w. bush but there's a bigger picture here and that's focused on the war itself when laden is dead today not because of a war but because of a covert intelligence operation a police operation if you will president obama didn't need to invade pakistan on sunday to kill bin laden as for our military invasions afghanistan and iraq every accomplishment of it are we any closer to realizing bush's dream of a world without islamic extremism actually no we're not if anything it's the opposite which means the question must be raised does war work or just peace work we've seen peaceful efforts throughout history even right here in america with the civil rights and right now in the middle east in tunisia egypt achieved far more than work it ever hoped to do so so the time to put our world machines in the cause of her good joining me now to offer some insight on this issue is joe madison host of the joe madison show on sirius x.m. satellite radio has weekdays six to ten am eastern time on channel one

nixon did, reagan did, georgee both of the george bush's, george h.w. bush, george w. bush did. and they portrayed judges who were not in fact being faithful to the constitution. i'm not sure if that was true or not. >> well... rhetoric.at was the >> .of course that's the next quustion is, is that an exaggeration? the idea that sommhow rogue judges are running around the country just screwing everything up. >> of course, i think it's a tremendous exaggeration. >> right. >> because in fact there are lots of safeguards in this system. number one, if i do something that doesn't suit the supreme court, they can reverse me. and. ú& there's a backstop. >> sure, there's a backstop. and. >> right. >> .judges on, it depends what you mean by getting it right. if you think judges should overturn legislation a lot, actually some of the so-called conservative justices do that more than the so-called liberal justices. >> yeah. why do you say so-called? >> because it depends what you mean by liberal or conservative. >> yeah. >> you know, some people think ttey can divine that, the meaning of

bush and not necessarily against more. to cross talk of the anti-war movement has vanished i'm joined by angela keaton in los angeles she is antiwar dot com development director and anti-war radio producer also in los angeles we have various russell he's a historian and author of a renegade history of the united states and in ann arbor we cross to michael heaney he's assistant professor of organizational studies and political science at the university of michigan ok cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want but first let's have a look at the anti-war movement then and now. what happened so the answer will movement just drive to war in iraq mass demonstrations in the straits city squares and in front of the white house where they break fires . at city adamantly opposed to military interventions have always sleights a reflect public opinion and. makers how much has changed the answer the movement in major impacts one hundred sixty eight based widespread public opposition to the war in troubling p