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position the pakistani government the pakistani people the pakistani military looks at it in a very suspicious way you know they then of course like i said before be american military conduct in the region the american drone strikes the american lack of respect for pakistan's sovereignty can you was continuous criticism of the pakistani military intelligence the continuous. missions weist about it well if you are so suspicious why do you call it at the front lines be it why do you call it an alliance against terror i mean my skin not be built on suspicion i could have could be suspicious you i don't have to say you're not with us or you have to see you. guys and it's actually a united states of america which is constantly not it has not taken a clear position on this issue and it's causing a lot of confusion inside pakistan also. it has come forth wife it quite honestly if you ask me the relationship has broken down it's a question of time before both sides are going to have to articulate it out right. now it's very leanly and it's peter kind of also he's just been. very. just to ju
position the pakistani government the pakistani people the pakistani military looks at it in a very suspicious way you know they then of course like i said before be american military conduct in the region the american drone strikes the american lack of respect for pakistan's sovereignty can you was continuous criticism of the pakistani military intelligence the continuous. missions weist about it well if you are so suspicious why do you call it at the front lines be it why do you call it an...
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position the pakistani government the pakistani people the pakistani military looks at it in a very suspicious way you know they then of course like i said before the american military conduct in the region the american drone strikes the american lack of respect for pakistan's sovereignty do you was continuous criticism of the pakistani military intelligence continuous. fissions voice about it but if you are so suspicious why do you call it at the front line stay advised you call it in an alliance against terror my skin not be built on suspicions i don't have to be suspicious you either have to say you're not with us or you have to say you. guys and it's actually a united states of america which is constantly not it has not taken a clear position on this issue and it's causing a lot of confusion inside pakistan also. it is come to a point where quite honestly if you ask me the relationship has broken down it's a question of time before both sides are going to have to articulate it right. it's very nice to be on it peter can also use your. very. just respond my colleague from a slow
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we're talking to the pakistanis of how he was able to stay there, and we're talking to the pakistanis on a regular basis. we learned this was an operation carried out with real-time visibility. this was visible and followable personnel back there. they had c-- the president, he said, had to make a decision about whether to go for the operation, and that it was one of the gutsiest calls a u.s. president made in recent memory. katty, can you hear me? >> i can hear you. it was an absolutely fascinating reading. less than 24 hours after personnel got there, we're getting a lot of information about how the whole operation unfolded. what struck me was this whole issue about the fact that they did not tell the pakistanis, so the pakistanis did not know what a firefighter was about. it was clearly concerned in the white house on sunday as they were monitoring about whether pakistani forces would retaliate, or what they would it do that. clearly a real risk for the white house that pakistani forces or jet fighters would become involved in this, and in that case, what would at navy seals have d
we're talking to the pakistanis of how he was able to stay there, and we're talking to the pakistanis on a regular basis. we learned this was an operation carried out with real-time visibility. this was visible and followable personnel back there. they had c-- the president, he said, had to make a decision about whether to go for the operation, and that it was one of the gutsiest calls a u.s. president made in recent memory. katty, can you hear me? >> i can hear you. it was an absolutely...
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out to the pakistani public. there's a vast gulf of misunderstanding between ordinary pakistanis and the united states. there are ordinary pakistanis who are somehow convinced that the united states poses more of a threat to them than osama bin laden, than any other threat, the pakistani taliban. it's just wrong. this is not just a u.s. perspective, the threat to pakistan is from the pakistani taliban, is from al qaeda, it's from islamic militants trying to overthrow the government. you have secular pakistani politicians trying to make peace with them or a truce with them. that's not how this works. we need to somehow communicate this to the pakistanis. we tried a variety of different methods. we offered them money and f-16 fighter jets. none of these messages seem to be getting through. it's very troubling. this say country that has nuclear weapons. it has a vast military. it's playing a very important, strategic role in central asia. it's troubling scenario. >> i'm curious. i was reading in islamabad, there's a
out to the pakistani public. there's a vast gulf of misunderstanding between ordinary pakistanis and the united states. there are ordinary pakistanis who are somehow convinced that the united states poses more of a threat to them than osama bin laden, than any other threat, the pakistani taliban. it's just wrong. this is not just a u.s. perspective, the threat to pakistan is from the pakistani taliban, is from al qaeda, it's from islamic militants trying to overthrow the government. you have...
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position the pakistani government the pakistani people the pakistani military looks at it in a very suspicious way you know they then of course like i said before the american military conduct in the region the american drone strikes the american lack of respect for pakistan's sovereignty to new is continuous criticism of the pakistani military intelligence the continuous. missions voiced about it but if you are so suspicious why do you call it to the frontline state why do you call it an alliance against terror i mean my skin not big on suspicions i don't have to be suspicious you know i don't have to say you're not with us or you have to say you. guys and it's actually united states of america which is constantly not it has not taken a clear position on this issue and it's causing a lot of confusion inside pakistan also. it has come to a point here quite honestly if you ask me the relationship has broken down it's a question of time before both sides are going to have to take you later right. now so it's very nice to be on its feet or kind of also has been great great. just just .
position the pakistani government the pakistani people the pakistani military looks at it in a very suspicious way you know they then of course like i said before the american military conduct in the region the american drone strikes the american lack of respect for pakistan's sovereignty to new is continuous criticism of the pakistani military intelligence the continuous. missions voiced about it but if you are so suspicious why do you call it to the frontline state why do you call it an...
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position the pakistani government the pakistani people the pakistani military looks at it in a very suspicious way you know they then of course like i said before the american military conduct in the region the american drone strikes the american lack of respect for pakistan's sovereignty to new is continuous criticism of the pakistani military intelligence continuous. fissions voiced about it but if you are so suspicious why do you call it at the front line speed why do you call it an alliance against terror and i mean i love my skin or think built on suspicions you i don't have to be suspicious you know i don't have to say you're not with us or you have to say you. guys and it's actually united states of america which is constantly not it has not taken a clear position on this issue and it's causing a lot of confusion inside pakistan also. it has come to a point where quite honestly if you ask me the relationship has broken down it's a question of time before both sides are going to have to articulate it right it gets it's very needy and i can also use your. brain. just to just re
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but here's my point which many pakistanis feel. that if we allow the terrorists to continue to act within pakistan with o without any sanction. i insist there is no official sanction. osama bin laden was not there through an official sanction. heas there with some private support network. as long as their terrorists within pakistan we will not be a part of the international community, with the rights and privileges with the stature that we deserve. it's time to rethink all tha and i think the rethinking has started. >> charlie: are you glad this is the place. >> i'm relieved that osama bin laden is no more. i think that osama bin len was a person who actually caused great harm to islam, to muslims and to every country with whom he had associated in many way. he distributed to his country of birth, saudi arabia, he has caused problems for pakistan. he was definitely not a good n, he was an evilman. his departure from this world is definitely going to provide impetus to the effort to try and pursue our lives in accordance with some s
but here's my point which many pakistanis feel. that if we allow the terrorists to continue to act within pakistan with o without any sanction. i insist there is no official sanction. osama bin laden was not there through an official sanction. heas there with some private support network. as long as their terrorists within pakistan we will not be a part of the international community, with the rights and privileges with the stature that we deserve. it's time to rethink all tha and i think the...
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position the pakistani government the pakistani people the pakistani military looks at it in a very suspicious way you know they then of course like i said before the american military conduct in the region the american drone strike the american lack of respect for pakistan's sovereignty when he knew was continuous criticism of the pakistani military intelligence continues. suspicions worst about it but if you are so suspicious why do you call it at the front lines be it why do you call it an alliance against terror and i mean i love my skin or be built on suspicions i could have to be suspicious you know i don't have to say you're not with us or you have to say you. guys and it's actually united states of america which is constantly not it has not taken a clear position on this issue and it's causing a lot of confusion inside pakistan also. it is come to a point where quite honestly if you ask me the relationship has broken down it's a question of time before both sides are going to have to articulate it right if it's very neatly and it peter can also european go ahead very. just j
position the pakistani government the pakistani people the pakistani military looks at it in a very suspicious way you know they then of course like i said before the american military conduct in the region the american drone strike the american lack of respect for pakistan's sovereignty when he knew was continuous criticism of the pakistani military intelligence continues. suspicions worst about it but if you are so suspicious why do you call it at the front lines be it why do you call it an...
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position the pakistani government the pakistani people the pakistani military looks at it in a very suspicious way you know they then of course like i said before the american military conduct in the region the american drone strikes the american lack of respect for pakistan's sovereignty to new was continuous criticism of the pakistani military intelligence continuous. fissions voice about it well if you are so suspicious why do you call it at the front line state why do you call it an alliance against terror i mean my skin not built on suspicions you i don't have to be suspicious you either have to say you're not with us or you have to say you are with us and it's actually a united states of america which is constantly not it has not taken a clear position on this issue and it's causing a lot of confusion inside pakistan also. it is coming to a point we're quite honestly if you ask me the relationship has broken down it's a question of time before both per side are going to have to take you laid it out right. it's very needy and its leader can also use your head very. just just a
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that if the pakistani government, the pakistani intelligence service as an official entity as opposed to individuals who are or have been associated with them, if they'd knownbout this and been providing support in some way that would have surfaced in communicationsnd if there's one thing i know about u.s. intelligence is we surveil the heck out of pakistan. it's hard to have aconversation there that somebody isn't going to pick up. so i wonde if we wouldn't have known about it and knowing about it if we wouldn't... if thi whole story wouldn't have been different but we're really just guessing. all i can report as a journalist is that i put the question to the u.s. intelligence officials and they saidhey had zero evidence to support the idea that the pakistanis were winning. >> rose: so what does this mean for al qaeda? >> it's a turning point in the history of an organization that's been around since 1988. they've had the same leader and deputy leader in place narrating the organization's cause, speaking to followers, both those that have sworn allegiance to bin laden personally-- wh
that if the pakistani government, the pakistani intelligence service as an official entity as opposed to individuals who are or have been associated with them, if they'd knownbout this and been providing support in some way that would have surfaced in communicationsnd if there's one thing i know about u.s. intelligence is we surveil the heck out of pakistan. it's hard to have aconversation there that somebody isn't going to pick up. so i wonde if we wouldn't have known about it and knowing...
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many pakistanis are quite indifferent to his death. if you were to poll, quite frankly they would say a muslim has passed. the response from the local street in pakistan has been rather muted. i think what we should really worry about is not al qaeda. al qaeda if you look at the foreigner fighter force in pakistan has been a few hundred people. we should worry about the local jihadis. if you think of what india and afghanistan are most concerned about it's local organizations like the mujahadin. there's a number of organizations that are these smaller franchises that pose a greater threat not only to the region but also potentially to america. >> ifill: that comes to the next question which is, to what degree do we have cooperation from the government of pakistan to pursue any of these other groups if indeed we now have these questions about whether pakistan in essence sheltered bin laden? >> even before the circumstantial evidence about bin bin laden's hiding place surfaced over the last couple of days there were frustrations in the a
many pakistanis are quite indifferent to his death. if you were to poll, quite frankly they would say a muslim has passed. the response from the local street in pakistan has been rather muted. i think what we should really worry about is not al qaeda. al qaeda if you look at the foreigner fighter force in pakistan has been a few hundred people. we should worry about the local jihadis. if you think of what india and afghanistan are most concerned about it's local organizations like the...
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we have to get better cooperation from the pakistanis. lindsey graham is was right about using this to look the other way. on this if if they did that to help us pursue the network more vigorously. we need their help and i think we can demand it now. >> bret: check in quickly as we look at the video from pakistan of the final compound. one last time before i hand it off to the top of the hour with jennifer griffin at the pentagon. jennifer? >> we learned that the raid was launched by about 40 u.s. navy seals from a base in afghanistan. not pakistan as some pakistanis officials have been putting out. we underand this from an official there n. there there is a picture of bin laden just released. it is a bloody picture and not something that anybody would want to look at. it was about 40 navy seals half of whom landed on the ground. 24 got out of the helicopters and land on the ground. i'm told from a senior u.s. intelligence source that they actually asked him to surrender. they didn't give him much time and he was shot. we understand it wa
we have to get better cooperation from the pakistanis. lindsey graham is was right about using this to look the other way. on this if if they did that to help us pursue the network more vigorously. we need their help and i think we can demand it now. >> bret: check in quickly as we look at the video from pakistan of the final compound. one last time before i hand it off to the top of the hour with jennifer griffin at the pentagon. jennifer? >> we learned that the raid was launched...
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>> if any member of the pakistani government, the pakistani military or the pakistani intelligence service knew where osama bin laden was, we would have taken action. osama bin laden's presence in pakistan was not to pakistan's advantage. >> will heads roll? >> heads will roll once the investigation has been completed. now, if those heads are roll on account of incompetence, we will share that information with you. and if, god forbid, somebody's complicity is discovered, there will be zero tolerance for that, as well. >> pakistan's ambassador to the u.s. with our christiane amanpour. >>> and we are learning more about the bin laden tapes released this weekend. seized during the raid on his compound, one week ago. tonight, just how is the white house hoping the world views them? and in particular, members of al qaeda. here's david kerley on that part of the story tonight. >> reporter: these pictures, of the gray-bearded terrorist, watching himself on tv, are a propaganda bonanza. the u.s. is hoping just these few seconds of video shatters a decade 0 myth-making. the u.s. released this pictu
>> if any member of the pakistani government, the pakistani military or the pakistani intelligence service knew where osama bin laden was, we would have taken action. osama bin laden's presence in pakistan was not to pakistan's advantage. >> will heads roll? >> heads will roll once the investigation has been completed. now, if those heads are roll on account of incompetence, we will share that information with you. and if, god forbid, somebody's complicity is discovered, there...
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the pakistani taliban has killed so many pakistani civilians. reza is right, anti-american sentiment in pakistan is very, very virulent, but at the end of the day, there seems to be a certain head in the sand quality to all of this. when you've got the pakistani taliban inflicting this damage on pakistan domestically. >> fran, a dynamic as this plays out, last night on this program, you broke news that the u.s. was allowed access to three of bin laden's wives who are in pakistani custody. what more do we know about that tonight? >> john, when we talk about access, this was really very constrained. so you have the americans in there with the pakistani intelligence and the three women all together. the women were very hostile, they can't want to answer questions from the americans, so it was not a very productive session. that's not unusual the first time through. but there's now the negotiation between the pakistanis and the americans, direct between the senior levels of each service about whether or not they can change those, can they separate t
the pakistani taliban has killed so many pakistani civilians. reza is right, anti-american sentiment in pakistan is very, very virulent, but at the end of the day, there seems to be a certain head in the sand quality to all of this. when you've got the pakistani taliban inflicting this damage on pakistan domestically. >> fran, a dynamic as this plays out, last night on this program, you broke news that the u.s. was allowed access to three of bin laden's wives who are in pakistani custody....
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some body showed up and said now you are a pakistani. but they all speak different languages, i said somewhere maybe back in switzerland the valleys were so steep you could talk to the next valley but you lose the language so their tribal areas, each of which spoke a different language, so then there was this great made up language called urdu kind of arabic kind of per january kind of this and -- persian kind of this and that but you can imagine if the baluki's couldn't speak to the sindhis and they couldn't speak to those in the north english became the language in which things were officially conducted. and so particularly -- and then it is caste system remember hindu is india and it is vertical -- i mean horizontal you are born in this caste you stay here you are born up here you stay up here. then islam comes in and it is horizontal. ghandi was always trying to say no, like untouchable it is time to do away with this caste system so islam comes in and there is a brother hood, horizontal but at the same time the hindu caste system sn
some body showed up and said now you are a pakistani. but they all speak different languages, i said somewhere maybe back in switzerland the valleys were so steep you could talk to the next valley but you lose the language so their tribal areas, each of which spoke a different language, so then there was this great made up language called urdu kind of arabic kind of per january kind of this and -- persian kind of this and that but you can imagine if the baluki's couldn't speak to the sindhis...
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and so 1850, so when it all fell apart 100 years later, the army was basically pakistani, became pakistani, but the civilian government doesn't quite -- that is not the taxing power. it is just fascinating. just fascinating. >> you raised the question earlier and i think we want to cover this in the next segment, why does pakistan matter. with osama bin laden happening we will finish with that and i know people are thinking about that also. >> sure we will talk about that. >> please join us in our last segment with hugh burrows our coproducer and co-host >>> welcome back to mosaic. why is pakistan so important and why did osama bin laden hide there. >> i think in terms of importance, the raw fact is they have nuclear weapons. and so does india. and if those nuclear weapons get into the hands of the wrong people or even some of the material, i think the big fear is that a dirty bomb could be made. >> but all those tribes how do they get the nuclear weapons? >> well, the educated elite is a guy whose name i can't get now, he was a professor, somewhere here in the states and england, and so h
and so 1850, so when it all fell apart 100 years later, the army was basically pakistani, became pakistani, but the civilian government doesn't quite -- that is not the taxing power. it is just fascinating. just fascinating. >> you raised the question earlier and i think we want to cover this in the next segment, why does pakistan matter. with osama bin laden happening we will finish with that and i know people are thinking about that also. >> sure we will talk about that. >>...
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the near-term outlook for the economy which pakistanis are obsessed with, and the pakistani economic team which i'll talk about and leadership is totally obsessed by the short term. and the way i see out for pakistan from the bad economic equilibrium that it is currently trapped in. so let me start with the political and security challenges. well, anatol rightly has gone through very well on, in discussing the ongoing battle in pakistan -- you could call it the battle for the soul of the state -- between the islamic fundamentalists and, of course, the secular moderates which were in the majority. what also you have to pay attention to is that there is another battle raging within the sort of fundamentalists, if you like, or within the islamic community between an emerging minority with a loud voice and even louder weapons. these are the philosophies and theory, if you like, exclusionary islamists influenced largely by saudi arabia and the traditional spiritual muslims influenced by the more moderate bahraini schools of thought from india. they present, really, the largest single reli
the near-term outlook for the economy which pakistanis are obsessed with, and the pakistani economic team which i'll talk about and leadership is totally obsessed by the short term. and the way i see out for pakistan from the bad economic equilibrium that it is currently trapped in. so let me start with the political and security challenges. well, anatol rightly has gone through very well on, in discussing the ongoing battle in pakistan -- you could call it the battle for the soul of the state...
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how could the pakistanis not have known that bin laden was there? >> well, i think it's, excuse me, i think it's very, very hard to believe that at some level there wasn't somebody or some group as the president alluded to in pakistan that wasn't aware of this. as of now, even according to tom donlan this morning, the national security advisor to the president, there is no evidence that at the highest level the generals and the president of pakistan knew this. there's no evidence at this moment, but there are very serious questions and it is extraordinarily hard to believe that he could have survived there for five years or more in a major population center without some kind of support system and knowledge. >> schieffer: what do we do about that? i mean is it time re-evaluate aid to pakistan? where do we go from here on that? >> i think this is a time of enormous opportunity. it's opportunity for our relationship in pakistan and an opportunity for our policies in afghanistan. obviously they are very, very lame. you have to understand that for a peri
how could the pakistanis not have known that bin laden was there? >> well, i think it's, excuse me, i think it's very, very hard to believe that at some level there wasn't somebody or some group as the president alluded to in pakistan that wasn't aware of this. as of now, even according to tom donlan this morning, the national security advisor to the president, there is no evidence that at the highest level the generals and the president of pakistan knew this. there's no evidence at this...
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many pakistanis are quite indifferent to his death. if you were to poll, quite frankly they would say a muslim has passed. the response from the local street in pakistan has been rather muted. i think what we should really worry about is not al qaeda. al qaeda if you look at the foreigner fighter force in pakistan has been a few hundred people. we should worry about the local jihadis. if you think of what india and afghanistan are most concerned about it's local organizations like the mujahadin. there's a number of organizations that are these smaller franchises that pose a greater threat not only to the region but also potentially to america. >> ifill: that comes to the ext question which is, to what degree do we have cooperation from the government of pakistan to pursue any of these other groups if indeed we now have these questions about whether pakistan in essence sheltered bin laden? >> even before the circumstantial evidence about bin bin laden's hiding place surfaced over the last couple of days there were frustrations in the am
many pakistanis are quite indifferent to his death. if you were to poll, quite frankly they would say a muslim has passed. the response from the local street in pakistan has been rather muted. i think what we should really worry about is not al qaeda. al qaeda if you look at the foreigner fighter force in pakistan has been a few hundred people. we should worry about the local jihadis. if you think of what india and afghanistan are most concerned about it's local organizations like the...
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one is simply elements of the pakistani government or pakistani intelligence is entirely inept and that is not proven to be the case over the years. in fact, some of us raised the issue, does the isi spent more time tracking down members of the cia than a dozen members of al qaeda? is a crossroads, i believe, in relationship with pakistan. we've had good days and that is in pakistan. they are essential to success in the war against terrorism, but we cannot allow situations to access were the most notorious terrorist -- mass murder in the world was literally living right under the nose of pakistani government officials. i look forward to hearing today. i hope you can find a way forward is pakistan, but again the events of the last several days have a definite crossroads of that relationship. let me thank all the witnesses for giving me time and expertise is very important. when they give special thanks to doc kagan who i had the pleasure of meeting with the number of times, the first back in 2007 when he was the research policy in iraq, which everyone said could never work and think of t
one is simply elements of the pakistani government or pakistani intelligence is entirely inept and that is not proven to be the case over the years. in fact, some of us raised the issue, does the isi spent more time tracking down members of the cia than a dozen members of al qaeda? is a crossroads, i believe, in relationship with pakistan. we've had good days and that is in pakistan. they are essential to success in the war against terrorism, but we cannot allow situations to access were the...
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the pakistani interests are in the our interests. our government has done a disservice depending on people who do not do our country a service. >> do your point it is estimated that 30,000 pakistani fans have last their lives to terrorist attack and 5,000 pakistani security and armed forces have lofts their lives going after al qaeda, but in the big picture i understand in the coming hours we could see other operations in progress because in studying to get the take down of the compound they found other prayings -- operations could be taking place so should we expect to hear of more operations? >> i hope so. it was probably planned to hit several things at once in addition to osama bin laden. osama bin laden would not attack us as an individual there could be other things underway and i hope there is a follow-up operation conduct by u.s. forces. there are a number of people that need to be dead, quite a few, in fact, and the united states is best equipped to do that. >> and the osama bin laden speakers like yourself say we that there
the pakistani interests are in the our interests. our government has done a disservice depending on people who do not do our country a service. >> do your point it is estimated that 30,000 pakistani fans have last their lives to terrorist attack and 5,000 pakistani security and armed forces have lofts their lives going after al qaeda, but in the big picture i understand in the coming hours we could see other operations in progress because in studying to get the take down of the compound...
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has the pakistani government gone into secure this compound? >> i think the isi or the pakistan military police have the compound under control and clearly, it is the site and it would be my presumption that the pakistani authorities would be in control of that compound. >> who owned the land? >> it was two of the individuals who were killed, the al qaeda facilitators, the idea -- the individual identified as the gatekeeper. my understanding is that it was in his name. >> you implied this was the gutsiest decision the president made, that implies that there was some discussion. >> he wanted to hear people's views. you have circumstantial intelligence and people will see that either there is insufficient circumstantial evidence to go forward which involved a unilateral operation in another country to go after someone you believe is osama bin laden and there were differences of views. that is what the president wanted to know as well as the course of action which are things you can do which evolve . what are the benefits of doing that from a remo
has the pakistani government gone into secure this compound? >> i think the isi or the pakistan military police have the compound under control and clearly, it is the site and it would be my presumption that the pakistani authorities would be in control of that compound. >> who owned the land? >> it was two of the individuals who were killed, the al qaeda facilitators, the idea -- the individual identified as the gatekeeper. my understanding is that it was in his name....
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taliban, which has killed so many pakistani civilians. reza is right, anti-american sentiment in pakistan is very, very virulent, but at the end of the day, there seems to be a certain head in the sand quality to all of this. when you've got the pakistani taliban inflicting this damage on pakistan domestically. >> fran, a dynamic as this plays out, as all the new information we're getting about the investigation, last night on this program, you broke news that the u.s. was allowed access to three of bin laden's wives who are in pakistani custody. what more do we know about that tonight? >> john, when we talk about access, this was really very constrained. so you have the americans in there with the pakistani intelligence and the three women all together. the women were very hostile, they didn't want to answer questions from the americans, so it was not a very productive session. that's not unusual the first time through. but there's now the negotiation between the pakistanis and the americans, direct between the senior levels of each serv
taliban, which has killed so many pakistani civilians. reza is right, anti-american sentiment in pakistan is very, very virulent, but at the end of the day, there seems to be a certain head in the sand quality to all of this. when you've got the pakistani taliban inflicting this damage on pakistan domestically. >> fran, a dynamic as this plays out, as all the new information we're getting about the investigation, last night on this program, you broke news that the u.s. was allowed access...
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it was fairly deep in to pakistani territory, and so the likelihood that the pakistanis would have given authorization for this kind of a military operation this far into pakistani territory was probably fairly low. and so, the president made a calculated decision that it was better to go after bin laden and kill or capture him than it was to risk any sort of failing of the cooperation with pakistan by prenotifying them. so this was an american operation, drawn up over time, and executed to perfection today. >> put this into perspective for us. when it comes to taking out osama bin laden, how does that affect al qaeda as a whole? >> well, folks have tended to dismiss the importance of bin laden, often referring to him merely as the figurehead of al qaeda. i think that diminishes his role a bit too much. he is the inspirational, symbolic leader of not just al qaeda but the broader sunni extremist and terrorist movement. he has led the ideological innovation for al qaeda, putting america as target number one for all of the terrorists around the world. and most importantly, this kill of bin
it was fairly deep in to pakistani territory, and so the likelihood that the pakistanis would have given authorization for this kind of a military operation this far into pakistani territory was probably fairly low. and so, the president made a calculated decision that it was better to go after bin laden and kill or capture him than it was to risk any sort of failing of the cooperation with pakistan by prenotifying them. so this was an american operation, drawn up over time, and executed to...
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come in and carry out this operation without any visible pakistani corporation. he's voicing the opinion of a lot of people here. it remains to be seen tomorrow and the days to follow whether some violence does ensue. katie? >> couric: all right. liz palmer in islamabad tonight. thank you so much, liz. now, before he went on television to announce bin laden's death, president obama telephoned former presidents bill clinton and george w. bush to tell them. bush, who once said he wanted bin laden dead or alive, congratulated president obama as well as the u.s. military and intelligence communities and said america has sent an unmistakable message: no matter how long it takes, justice will be done. now, behind me you can see where the twin towers once stood. those footprints will be part of a memorial here at ground zero, still an open wound in the city. today's "daily news" captures the feelings of more than a few new yorkers. our chief national correspondent byron pitts reports bin laden's death was celebrated all across the country. >> reporter: today from coast
come in and carry out this operation without any visible pakistani corporation. he's voicing the opinion of a lot of people here. it remains to be seen tomorrow and the days to follow whether some violence does ensue. katie? >> couric: all right. liz palmer in islamabad tonight. thank you so much, liz. now, before he went on television to announce bin laden's death, president obama telephoned former presidents bill clinton and george w. bush to tell them. bush, who once said he wanted bin...
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pakistani people have suffered terribly. if not the case that there are elements within both the military and the intelligence services who are favorable and who have helped and assisted certain of the taliban and even al qaeda elements within pakistan for very subtle and important reasons in terms of your dynamic with india? >> let me just say one thing. i mean, i'm speculating here because i'm an outsider. i'm not in the government. but don't forget that not very long ago the same osama bin laden, al qaeda, were closely affiliated to the cia when they were fighting the soviets. and so when pakistan changed after 9/11, pakistan recognized the taliban government so suddenly after 9/11 pakistan reversed this policy. it's possible that there are members of the security forces who would have still kept connections with them. just because the government changes policy it's possible that within security forces there would be elements that might not have changed. the fact of the matter is the country is going down. we cannot susta
pakistani people have suffered terribly. if not the case that there are elements within both the military and the intelligence services who are favorable and who have helped and assisted certain of the taliban and even al qaeda elements within pakistan for very subtle and important reasons in terms of your dynamic with india? >> let me just say one thing. i mean, i'm speculating here because i'm an outsider. i'm not in the government. but don't forget that not very long ago the same osama...
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that if the pakistani government, the pakistani intelligence service as an official entity as opposed to individuals who are or have been associated with them, if they'd ownbout this and been providing support in some way that would have surfaced in communicationsnd if there's one thing i know about u.s. intelligence is we surveil the heck out of pakistan. it's hard to have aconversation there that somebody isn't going to pick up. so i wonde if we wouldn't have known about it and knowing about it if we wouldn't... if thi whole story wouldn't have been different but we're really just guessing. all i can report as a journalist is that i put the question to the u.s. intelligence officials and they saidhey had zero evidence to suort the idea that t pastanis were winng. >> rose: so what does this mean for al qaeda? >> it's a turning point in the history of an organization that's been around since 1988. they've had the same leader and deputy leader in place narrating the organization's cause, speaking to followers, both those that have sworn allegiance to bin laden personally-- which is alw
that if the pakistani government, the pakistani intelligence service as an official entity as opposed to individuals who are or have been associated with them, if they'd ownbout this and been providing support in some way that would have surfaced in communicationsnd if there's one thing i know about u.s. intelligence is we surveil the heck out of pakistan. it's hard to have aconversation there that somebody isn't going to pick up. so i wonde if we wouldn't have known about it and knowing about...
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pakistani people have suffered terribly. if not the case that there are elements within both the military and the intelligence services who are favorable and who have helped and assisted certain of the taliban and even al qaeda elements within pakistan for very subtle and important reasons in terms of your dynamic with india? >> let me just say one thing. i mean, i'm speculating here because i'm an outsider. i'm not in the government. but don't forget that not very long ago the same osama bin laden, al qaeda, were closely affiliated to the cia when they were fighting the soviets. and so when pakistan changed after 9/11, pakistan recognized the taliban government so suddenly after 9/11 pakistan reversed this policy. it's possible that there are members of the security forces who would have still kept connections with them. just because the government that within security forces there would be elements that might not have changed. the fact of the matter is the country is going down. we cannot sustain this much longer. >> mr. k
pakistani people have suffered terribly. if not the case that there are elements within both the military and the intelligence services who are favorable and who have helped and assisted certain of the taliban and even al qaeda elements within pakistan for very subtle and important reasons in terms of your dynamic with india? >> let me just say one thing. i mean, i'm speculating here because i'm an outsider. i'm not in the government. but don't forget that not very long ago the same osama...
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>> if any member of the pakistani government, the pakistani military or the pakistani intelligence service knew where osama bin laden was, we would have taken action. osama bin laden's presence in pakistan was not to pakistan's advantage. now, you know pakistan well, christiane. you were there immediately after 9/11. we still have many jihadi has beens from the 1980s who are still alive and well and kicking and some of them could have been helping them, but they are not in the state or government of pakistan today. >> right, but let's call a spade a spade. osama bin laden, number one terrorist in the world, including against pakistan, was hiding in your west point town. there are barriers, there are checks, foreigners just can't go there just willy-nilly. i know that for a fact and so do others. khalid shaikh mohammed, ksm, was found in a similar town in rawalpindi a few years ago. how can this happen without the tacit knowledge or without some kind of involvement? >> let me proffer another explanation. >> that's the question. >> it's a state, a country with lots of people, it's a very dif
>> if any member of the pakistani government, the pakistani military or the pakistani intelligence service knew where osama bin laden was, we would have taken action. osama bin laden's presence in pakistan was not to pakistan's advantage. now, you know pakistan well, christiane. you were there immediately after 9/11. we still have many jihadi has beens from the 1980s who are still alive and well and kicking and some of them could have been helping them, but they are not in the state or...
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-pakistani operation. for years the pakistan ji intelligence service had said that osama bin laden was dead. now that he actually is dead, they want credit for killing him. after nearly ten years of hunting for osama bin laden, he was finally found and finally killed in a city just outside the capital city of pakistan. he was not in the mountainous border region of afghanistan. he was not in the lawless semiautonomous tribal areas. he was not in a cave. he was in a big, nice house in. a city where pakistani military officers go to retire. a hop, skip and a jump away from pakistani's version of west point. this probably should not surprise us as much as it did. so many of the other big al qaeda fish caught over the last decade have been caught in the same way as osama bin laden was. not just in pakistan, but specifically in pakistani cities. on the one-year anniversary of 9/11, this man was taken into custody. wlfs he caught? not in a cave. >> he helped plan the world trade center and pentagon attacks was t
-pakistani operation. for years the pakistan ji intelligence service had said that osama bin laden was dead. now that he actually is dead, they want credit for killing him. after nearly ten years of hunting for osama bin laden, he was finally found and finally killed in a city just outside the capital city of pakistan. he was not in the mountainous border region of afghanistan. he was not in the lawless semiautonomous tribal areas. he was not in a cave. he was in a big, nice house in. a city...
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the conflict between the extremists and the moderate pakistanis is coming to a head at a time when pakistani is facing a serious economic crisis. that happens frequently in pakistan. it's weak coalition government which is important here, and in weak coalition government is blackmailed by its own partners on key economic reforms. pakistan's internal struggles are likely to take a huge toll in its war against militants on the western frontier and neighboring countries, and at the same time reducing the government's ability to stop or reverse the economic melt down that is occurring in the country. against this background, and anatol points this out, the strongest and most disciplined institution in the country, that is the army, is not ready to step into the political arena to change things on the home front. even though while it's won some ground against the insurgency on the borders, but its victories on the battleground could be sort of borrowing general petraeus' recent words about afghanistan, they are fragile and reversible, the wins that the pakistan army has had. without a civilian go
the conflict between the extremists and the moderate pakistanis is coming to a head at a time when pakistani is facing a serious economic crisis. that happens frequently in pakistan. it's weak coalition government which is important here, and in weak coalition government is blackmailed by its own partners on key economic reforms. pakistan's internal struggles are likely to take a huge toll in its war against militants on the western frontier and neighboring countries, and at the same time...
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/pakistani relationship is significant, because as you well know that the pakistanis hate the fact that the u.s. didn't trust them enough to give them so-called actionable intelligence and let them get the job done, but it was the u.s. to do it, because they did not trust the pakistanis and they felt that bin laden would slip away if they shared at all, so it is causing a sensitive break in the u.s./pakistani relationship which is so critical. >> yes, i believe so, because they say that the u.s. intelligence have a lot of explaining to do, and the cliche of bin laden living in a cave somewhere in north waziristan and to find out he was a drive away from islamabad is extraordinary. for years pakistani officials have denied categorically that bin laden was even in pakistan at all, and just as they said that al zawahiri or anybody else is there, and hard for them to deny given that he was found so close to islamabad. we are also getting breaking news right now on how the u.s. tracked down the man who eventually led forces to bin laden. it is a fascinating story, and new details on that ahe
/pakistani relationship is significant, because as you well know that the pakistanis hate the fact that the u.s. didn't trust them enough to give them so-called actionable intelligence and let them get the job done, but it was the u.s. to do it, because they did not trust the pakistanis and they felt that bin laden would slip away if they shared at all, so it is causing a sensitive break in the u.s./pakistani relationship which is so critical. >> yes, i believe so, because they say that...
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his compound was lessen from a kill meter from this pakistani military compound. our first report comes from andrew north in washington, d.c. >> tonight i can report to the american people and to the world the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden, the leader of al qaeda. >> it's 10 years since osama bin laden attacked the united states on its own shores. 3,000 people were killed on 9/11, the worst attack on american soil since pearl harbor. when bin laden admitted he'd ordered them, he became the world's most wanted man. >> there's an old poster out west as i recall that said, "wanted: dead or alive." >> he was tracked down to the mountains of tora bora after u.s. forces had invaded afghanistan. b-52's bombed the caves he used to hide out, but he escaped over the border into pakistan's tribal areas, and the trail went cold. u.s. special forces found him, not in the tribal areas, but in the pakistani town of abbottabad. he was sheltering in this compound, filmed here after the u.s. raid. just down the road from a pakistani military b
his compound was lessen from a kill meter from this pakistani military compound. our first report comes from andrew north in washington, d.c. >> tonight i can report to the american people and to the world the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden, the leader of al qaeda. >> it's 10 years since osama bin laden attacked the united states on its own shores. 3,000 people were killed on 9/11, the worst attack on american soil since pearl harbor. when bin...
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>> we didn't contact the pa pakistanis until all our people were out of the pakistani air space. they were scrambling some of their assets. clearly we were concerned if the pakistanis decided to scramble jets or whatever else, they didn't know who was on those jets. they had no idea about who might have been on there, whether be u.s. or somebody else. so we were watching and making sure that the -- our people and our aircraft were able to get out of the pakistani air space and thankfully there was no engagement of pakistani forces. this operation was designed to minimize the chances of engagement with pakistani forces. it was done very well and thankfully no pakistani forces were engaged and there were no other, you know, individuals who were killed aside from those on the compound. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. can you talk to us about what documentation you may have found there? was it a bank vault worth of information and are you able to potentially get some additional leads out of the information that was found? >> the people who are on the compound took advantage of their
>> we didn't contact the pa pakistanis until all our people were out of the pakistani air space. they were scrambling some of their assets. clearly we were concerned if the pakistanis decided to scramble jets or whatever else, they didn't know who was on those jets. they had no idea about who might have been on there, whether be u.s. or somebody else. so we were watching and making sure that the -- our people and our aircraft were able to get out of the pakistani air space and thankfully...
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-pakistani operation. for years the pakistani intelligence service had said that osama bin laden was dead. now that he actually is dead, they want credit for killing him. after nearly ten years of hunting for osama bin laden, he was finally found and finally killed in a city just outside the capital city of pakistan. he was not in the mountainous border region of afghanistan. he was not in the lawless semiautonomous tribal areas. he was not in a cave. he was in a big, nice house in. a city where pakistani military officers go to retire. a hop, skip and a jump away from pakistani's version of west point. this probably should not surprise us as much as it did. so many of the other big al qaeda fish caught over the last decade have been caught in the same way as osama bin laden was. not just in pakistan, but specifically in pakistani cities. on the one-year anniversary of 9/11, this man was taken into custody. where was he caught? not in a cave. >> he helped plan the world trade center and pentagon attacks wa
-pakistani operation. for years the pakistani intelligence service had said that osama bin laden was dead. now that he actually is dead, they want credit for killing him. after nearly ten years of hunting for osama bin laden, he was finally found and finally killed in a city just outside the capital city of pakistan. he was not in the mountainous border region of afghanistan. he was not in the lawless semiautonomous tribal areas. he was not in a cave. he was in a big, nice house in. a city...
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." >> the questions for the pakistani government get even tougher. what happens now, barack obama praises friends out for the rock of -- for the bin laden operation. the fight against bin laden's followers as far from over. >> bin laden was a person and al qaeda is much bigger than a person. two days after u.s. forces killed osama bin laden, new details of the operation are still emerging including the fact that he was unarmed. pressure is mounting on authorities in pakistan to explain how they did not know that he was hiding right under their noses in the shadow of a military facility. we have complete coverage from pakistan. >> hiding in plain sight in the house towering above all the rest, this was osama bin laden's window on the world and in side of the window -- inside of the compound, signs of the struggle. the u.s. claimed that he might have lived there for as much as five years. the powerful spy agency of pakistan said that they had raided the place in 2003 but then it dropped off the radar. they told us today it was embarrassed by their fail
." >> the questions for the pakistani government get even tougher. what happens now, barack obama praises friends out for the rock of -- for the bin laden operation. the fight against bin laden's followers as far from over. >> bin laden was a person and al qaeda is much bigger than a person. two days after u.s. forces killed osama bin laden, new details of the operation are still emerging including the fact that he was unarmed. pressure is mounting on authorities in pakistan to...
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>> smith: at best, pakistani pressure on the taliban has been selective. the military has left the haqqani network almost untouched in the tribal area of north waziristan. us military sources told frontline the pakistanis are unwilling to take them on. >> there are hundreds of groups operating in that area. you know, we have to mobilize resources, maybe cool down the other places, stabilize other places, and then sort of get the forces together and then go for it. so that is not an issue. >> smith: for more than five years, the united states has been pressing the pakistanis to launch an offensive in north waziristan. in the meantime, the cia has taken matters into its own hands. remotely piloted drones have fired more than 200 hellfire missiles and bombs at targets in the tribal areas. officially, the cia does not speak about the drone war, but an agent who once ran the campaign agreed to talk to frontline. >> the calculus is really a very simple one: it's trying to kill people before they kill you. it's as simple as that. now, it may have the knock-on and
>> smith: at best, pakistani pressure on the taliban has been selective. the military has left the haqqani network almost untouched in the tribal area of north waziristan. us military sources told frontline the pakistanis are unwilling to take them on. >> there are hundreds of groups operating in that area. you know, we have to mobilize resources, maybe cool down the other places, stabilize other places, and then sort of get the forces together and then go for it. so that is not an...