solution to the conflict in libya can a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force to museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. in. rostock the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and his album r.t. he is a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar tora b. he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you omar in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see why mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying that he his son a

solution to the conflict in libya and a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force to museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. to. rostock the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokes person for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and is al gore marty he is a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar tora b. he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you amara in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see what mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we have here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying that he his

solution to the conflict in libya could a stable democratic and whole libya be created to the use of force museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. can. the process of the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and his album marty he's a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar tora b. he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you omar in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see why mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying they tell khada

more libya's still in the same nato bombing campaign in. the rebels' only hard political fights. bringing you the latest in science and signaling to the from around the russian. we dumped the huge earth covered. fists clenched fist. he seemed. reluctant. to more news today violence is once again flared up look these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of china that . the chinese hope for asians are relieved a plug. a timer here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today in the big picture. following welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle libya's stalemate in the sands of nato bombing campaign in eighty and take it out the rebels have only hardened political facts on the ground western intervention was intended to last a few weeks now is open ended instead of dislodging khadafi nato allies are left to bicker among themselves. came. across the nato mission in libya i'm joined by your johnson in london he's the founder and director of viewpoint africa also in london we have marco gas like he is a political analyst an expert on south east european a

to the conflict in libya and a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. to. the process of the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and is al gore marty he's a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar torre of he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you are in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see why mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying they could offer his

solution to the conflict in libya could a stable democratic and a whole libya be created through the use of force museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. to. the process of the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and his album r.t. he is a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar tora b. he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is cross talk to me as crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you omar in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see why mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear it here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying that he

on the people of libya this will not lead to anything good it's not leading to anything good now but it was never designed to be designed to lead to occupation and division of libya by the nato pact that's what it's there for that's what it's going to do iow if i go to you in london also i mean the nato didn't plan for this very well i mean and it certainly looks like they're bombing campaign is not only moving anything forward gadhafi is still there or they're just killing civilians now as well i mean is there is this public bombing campaign can it be yield any final result can you bomb this country to peace. well every day that goes by labor has been called into bits and pieces the infrastructure has been damaged not to mention that the people are being displaced from their homes and people are living object fare well of course the longer it goes on the more likely the war is meant to go bad against nato because it's very much about hearts and minds how can you maintain the status quo how can you and show you keep the coalition in the fashion it is currently with nato together and

on the people of libya this will not lead to anything good is not leading to anything good now but it was never designed to be designed to lead to occupation and division of libya by the nato pact so that's what it's there for that's what it's going to do iow if i go you in london also i mean the nato didn't plan for this very well i mean and it certainly looks like they're bombing campaign is not only moving anything forward gadhafi is still there they're just killing civilians now as well i mean is there is this public bombing campaign can it be yield any final result can you bomb this country to peace. well every day that goes by labor has been called into bits and pieces the infrastructure has been damaged not to mention that the people are being displaced from their homes and people are living in abject fear well of course the longer it goes on the more likely the the war is meant to go bad against nato because it's very much about the hearts and minds how can you maintain the status quo how can you ensure you keep the coalition in the fashion it is currently with nato to get out

solution to the conflict in libya and a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force to museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. to. the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and is al gore marty he is a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar tora b. he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you amara in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see why mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear it here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying that he his son and

solution to the conflict in libya had a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force to museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. in. rostock the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and is al gore marty he is a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar tora b. he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you amara in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see why mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear it here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying that his so

solution to the conflict in libya and a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force to museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. to. rostock the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and his album marty he is a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar tora b. he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is cross talk to me as crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you omar in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see why mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear it here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying that his son a

you cross the nato mission in libya i'm joined by you johnson in london he's the founder and director of viewpoint africa also in london we have marco grass like he is a political analyst an expert on south east european affairs and in barcelona we crossed to omar asher he is a lecturer in politics of the modern arab world at the university of exit are all right gentlemen this is cross talk that means you can jump in anytime you want omar and i to go to you first in barcelona how would you assess nato's operations in libya to date because depending on the news source you want to read it stalemate it's quagmire. we've coming across reports of rebels committing our human rights. violations they're not looking so pretty anymore and it's just basically a civil war that has come to a stalemate so how would you assess nato's operations to date. well that's a civil resistance campaign predicated ship that somehow turned into an on conflict because that was the choice of the logically and it is intervention came out of necessity calls from the. opposition fighters nineteenth of march the situ

like we saw it like we're seeing in libya. i think what will happen within nato is you will see these coalitions of the willing group around certain issue areas so for example with cyber defense or with climate change or with nuclear defense and in terms of i think it's ringing the death toll of the interventionism i think imposing values at the point of a gun hopefully is a policy which is being rid of the west as we speak in libya at the moment it's highly ineffective this way as we discussed and. it seems that. russia's proposal to share the responsibility for europe's missile defense according to the sexual principle is it a sign of the persisting distrust in europe towards the russian. i think that the problem within europe itself is that you've got so many different gazes towards russia there's a german gaze and there's a british gaze and there's a french gaze and there's an italian gaze and very very very seldomly do all of these gazes look in the same direction and so i think this will just be symptomatic of european r

as the alliance runs out of missiles for its air strike campaign over libya germany u. turns on its policy of abstaining from the conflict so you can deliver a bomb but you know it's more on our. general record and outages ejected from the war crimes force of the tribes to enter a not guilty plea on his behalf that it faces charges including genocide carried out in the balkans war some subset use the hague of one sided justice. and from our business desk former heads of bank of moscow are facing criminal charges after its huge bailouts regulators discovered a third of the bank's assets were in bad loans join me for a four business bulletin and twenty minutes from now. international news and comment live from moscow this is. russia and nato failed to reach a consensus on missile defense plans in europe if you're not standing firm on its position nato says it's against a joint shield and doesn't find it necessary to provide russia with legal guarantees that the shield won't be directed against it. because it has more now from russia's city of sochi where the talks have no

libya is still in the same nato's bombing campaign in aid to take the rebels of the only hard political found something. listen to the. big splash in the world of high tech business like turns in science into products they don't understand. he's he's got he told russian leaders to egypt leaders abroad it's their big breakthrough that sunlight on stone one technology updates here on. the future are covered. clinician in free liquidity should be free to close for charges free. agency three kisses free the stereotype free to glue the old free blog plug in video for your media projects for free media dr tom. wealthy british. muslims. live market finance. live find out what's really happening to the global economy with. raw no holds barred look at the global financial headlines to come as a report. download the official allocation. i pod touch from the top story. one child's life on the. video and among all season long bold colors and r.s.s. feeds in the palm of your. list. call. see. can. you. follow in welcome to cross talk on peter lavelle libya's stalemate in the sands of nato bombing ca

like we saw it like we're seeing in libya. i think what will happen within nato is you will see these coalitions of the willing group around certain issue areas so for example with cyber defense or with climate change or with nuclear defense and in terms of i think it's ringing the death toll the interventionism i think imposing values at the point of a gun hopefully is a policy which is being rid of the west as we speak in libya at the moment it's highly ineffective this week as we discussed and. it seems that. russia's proposal to share the responsibility for europe's missile defense according to the sexual principle is it a sign of the persisting distrust in europe towards the russian. i think that the problem within europe itself is this you've got so many different gazes towards russia there's a german gaze and there's a british gaze and there's a french gaze and there's an italian gaze and very very very seldomly do all of these gazes look you know in the same direction and so i think this will just be symptomatic of eur

as the french parliament votes to extend the military campaign in libya analysts highlighting consistencies and paris's frantic attempts to find ways out of the deadlock. also wiki leaks founder julian assange is fighting a decision by a british court to extradited to sweden over sex crime allegations which is supported just a pretext to how devoted to the u.s. . and russia wants to take the customs union with exxon one step further prime minister putin wants to create a free trade zone between union and europe more on that in business in twenty minutes time. hello there thanks for joining us it's nine pm here in moscow you're watching the r.t. international news channel with me kevin zero in and rescuers are searching through a playroom in the sunken volga river cruise ship as the bodies of thousands of children could be among those still trapped under water over ninety people have now been confirmed dead after the heavily overloaded pleasure cruise that sank in the republic of tatarstan on sunday our correspondent tom barton has the latest from. some homes glowing in a memorial tribute to

looks at whether libya will ever be back in the hands of the libyan people. can. follow in welcome to cross talk on peter all about libya's stalemate in the sand and nato bombing campaign and aid kit and take it out the rebels have only hardened political facts on the ground western intervention was intended to last a few weeks now is open ended instead of dislodging khadafi nato allies are left to bicker among themselves. can. start. to cross the nato mission in libya i'm joined by io johnson in london he's the founder and director of viewpoint africa also in london we have marco grass like he is a political analyst an expert on south east european affairs and in barcelona we caught crossed to omar asher he is a lecturer in politics of the modern arab world at the university of exit are all right gentlemen this is cross talk that means you can jump in anytime you want omar i'd like to go to you first in barcelona how would you assess nato's operations in libya to date because if any on the new source you want to read it stalemate it's quagmire. we've come across

solution to the conflict in libya and a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force to museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. to. the process of the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and his album r.t. he is a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar tora b. he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you omar in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see why mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear it here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying that he

into the conflict in libya and a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force to museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. to. the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and it's al gore marty he's a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar torrijos he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you omar in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see what mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the international criminal court saying that his son and a security chief

runs out of strike campaign over libya germany u. turns on its policy of abstaining from the conflict so it can deliver a. general recommend outages ejected from the war crimes court in the johnston not guilty plea. that it faces charges including genocide carried out in the balkans war. accuse the hague of one sided justice. international news and comment live from moscow this is good to have you with us this hour russia and nato have failed to reach a consensus on missile defense plans in europe with the standing firm on its position nato says it's against a joint shield and doesn't find it necessary to provide russia with legal guarantees that the shield won't be directed against it. because it has more from russia city of sochi where the talks have now drawn to a clue. russian foreign minister sergei lavrov described talks on a missile defense shield in europe as long and not going as smoothly as it was expected while speaking a separate press conference secretary general of nato rasmussen has said that nato never promised those

in west libya, the fighting is going on. there is a gap and a difference between the east and west libya. >> us talk about the facebook generation. how much of a difference is it making in libya? >> it is interesting to me, the rebels. they are the generation of facebook. the people fighting now are those who used to chat on facebook. this helps indication between them. even to get international attention by spreading videos and photos. the proof of that was that gaddafi shut down the internet. in the gaza, they are getting access again. >>hat can the international community to to support the rebels? >> the most important thing is that they recognize the national transitional council as the traditional -- legitimate representative of the libyan people. that is the most important thing. they will meet in is a symbol. they will work to support the libyans financially. -- they will meet in istanbul. >> what can germany due to support the rebels? >> germany's part is important in building up the civil society. this has started a

solution to the conflict in libya and a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force to museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. to. the process of the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and is al gore marty he is a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar tora b. he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you omar in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see why mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear it here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying that

but as nato sinks deeper into the bloody conflict in libya. syria many are questioning the alliance's real motives next independent journalist hearing his thoughts on what's going on in the region. the libya conflict is entering its fifth month with concerns growing that a protracted destructive civil war has been kickstarted by a western rush to regime change to miss out on the french intellectual and join the list founder and chairman of terror network and the access for peace conference has been working here in libya trying to find out the truth thank you very much terry for being with us thank you where have you been in libya and what have you discovered what have you found in your time here. first of all it's quite obvious to us see we wanted to counter the war at the same time with libya and syria. that we should was made public by john bolton in two thousand and two the plan was passed over to france and britain who decided to bring it to life in november last year secondly it was necessary to have very fiery whether an attempt of a cou

as the alliance runs out of missiles for its air strike campaign over libya germany u. turns on its policy of abstaining from the conflict so it can deliver a bomb bailout to its war on ice. general recommend outages directed from the war crimes court forcing the judge to enter a not guilty plea on his behalf not a trace of charges including genocide carried out in the balkans war some serbs accuse the hague of one sided justice. internationalising comment live from moscow this is r.t. russia and nato are failed to reach a consensus on missile defense plans in europe with the alliance standing firm on its position nato says it's against a joint anti missile shield and doesn't find it necessary to provide russia with a legal guarantees that the shield won't be directed against it. in africa has more now from russia city of sochi where the talks have now drawn to a close. russian foreign minister sergei lavrov described talks on the missile defense shield in europe as long and not going as smoothly as it was expected while speaking at a separate class conference secretary

you know ministries toward the foreign affairs minister don't go into libya it's a very bad conflict it was started by the cia and it's a dirty business don't go there so this is why you voted with russia and china now the backlash from washington is so tough obviously we are under pressure to do something to make up for this decision aside from peer pressure germany may be lured by the possible financial benefits of making its weapons available for natives use in libya probably germany will get paid for delivering these arms to other countries but that is normal practice between even in nato countries. out of the twenty eight need to members only eight are actively participating in libya with civilian deaths to which need to recently admitted to a shortage of weapons in the ever relentless more market duffy's still at the helm they call ition may be facing just the beginning of its problems. drilon is in a tough spot on the one hand it has disappointed nato by refusing to support the mission in libya in march on the other by agreeing to supply bombs it may now lose friends in other

meanwhile in germany agrees to supply the blocks forces in libya with war munitions drawing criticism for deviating from its original position on intervention all amid speculation that's been pressured by other nato members. plus a rough go blooded is removed from the un of war crimes court for destructing proceedings the former general is facing a genocide charges with your feet as to enter a plea following earlier threats of boycotts be hearing. here with r.t. live from moscow where it's now or just off that i'm a research a welcome to the program. chief hopes that russia and the alliance could reach an agreement on missile defense by next. russian scientists warn the dialogue is moving too slowly. but has more from the city of sochi where the talks are being held. it has been russia's concern for a very long time that russia doesn't want an arms race and if nato is to place its anti-missile defense shield in europe and then trying to sell defense shield that's going to be covering a big part of washington russia's territory and then of course an arms race exactly what's going to ha

or in libya's air space. the chair: the gentleman from texas is recognize for five minutes on his ealt. mr. gohmert: thank you, mr. speaker. we have a couple of amendments we have already voted on. i was reviewing whether or not to withdraw my amendment but my concern comes on review of mr. cole, of oklahoma, a dear friend, and the amendment that passed that he provided. his amendment says that no funds in the act may be used for supporting military activities, any group or individual not part of a country's armed forces system of this still could be used to supplement another country's armed forces through nato or through the u.n. and we have here a case where people on both sides recognize that the president moved forward, put our people and our military in harm's way, to go after a man who until march 1 was recognized by the united nations as being a leader. in human rights. in fact, had elected him in 2003 to be the chairman of the human rights commission of the u.n. so we also know from our offices -- of

saying that he believes the alliance wants only to feast on that libya's riches. these countries easy piece of cake rich and of jazz. and we have more than one hundred million dollars deposits abroad so we have to share the city that's it. and we have to get mr gadhafi because he's the only obstacle between the . first and i think it's as simple as that you can check out the full version of this exclusive interview on our website at ardsley dot com. well the hague war crimes tribunal has entered a plea of not guilty on behalf of former bosnian serb general ratko what it the accused was ordered out of the court for interrupting the judge and speaking out of turn a former general they took complained of having had a hard time hearing previously the judge refused to postpone the hearing of the request of what it should threatened to boycott the proceedings he has rejected the legal team given to him by the court demanding to choose his own defense lawyers that is accused of ordering the mass killing of thousands of bosnian muslims during the balkans war but it's not

solution to the conflict in libya can a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. to. the process of the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and is al gore marty he's a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar tora b. he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you amara in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see why mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying that his so

on the people of libya this will not lead to anything good it's not leading to anything good now but it was never designed to be designed to lead to occupation and division of libya by the nato pact so that's what it's there for that's what it's going to do i know if i can go to you in london also i mean nato didn't plan for this very well i mean and it certainly looks like they're bombing campaign is not only moving anything forward gadhafi is still there they're just killing civilians now as well i mean is there is this public bombing campaign can it be yield any final result can you bomb this country to peace. well every day that goes by being caught into bits and pieces the infrastructure is being damaged not to mention that the people are being displaced from their homes and people are living object fare well of course the longer it goes on the more likely the war is meant to go bad against nato because it's very much about the hearts and minds how can you maintain the status quo how can you ensure you keep the coalition in the fashion it is currently with nato to get out and ho

on the people of libya this will not lead to anything good it's not leading to anything good now but it was never designed to be designed to lead to occupation and division of libya by the nato pact that's what it's there for that's what it's going to do i know if i can go to you in london also i mean the nato didn't plan for this very well i mean and it certainly looks like they're bombing campaign is not only moving anything forward gadhafi is still there they're just killing civilians now as well i mean is there is this public bombing campaign can it yield any final result can you bomb this country to peace. well every day that goes by labor has been called into bits and pieces the infrastructure has been damaged not to mention that the people are being displaced from their homes and people are living in abject fear well of course the longer it goes on the more likely the war is meant to go bad against nato because it's very much about the hearts and minds how can you maintain the status quo how can you ensure you keep the coalition in the fashion it is currently with nato to get

following welcome to cross talk on people about libya's stalemate in the sand of nato bombing campaign and aid to anti kadafi rebels have only hardened political facts on the ground western intervention was intended to last a few weeks now is open ended instead of dislodging khadafi nato allies are left to bicker among themselves. can start. to cross the nato mission in libya i'm joined by are you johnson in london he is the founder and director of viewpoint africa also in london we have marco gas like he is a political analyst an expert on south east european affairs and in barcelona we call cross to omar asha he is a lecturer in politics of the modern arab world at the university of exit are all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means you can jump in anytime you want omar and i to go to you first in barcelona how would you assess nato's operations in libya to date because depending on the new source you want to read it stalemate it's quagmire. we're coming across reports of rebels committing our human rights. violations they're not looking so pretty anymore and it's just basical

rebels but on some somalia wench to libya for training within the last two or three years. documented we have to fly records and everything else so it seems strange in many ways the whole western support of some of the rebel groups in libya must be questioned because in some cases i think we are effectively arming al-qaeda it's all making a mockery of the un votes on foreign intervention in the country. by leading it never. giving up. none of. this. witnesses nato bombing of libya is causing widespread atrocities for every one military personnel that was supposedly a casualty there were ten civilians frauds categorically ruled out sending rolled troops protect predict is the only way they'll to break the libyan deadlock the moves the splitting the nato coalition silvio berlusconi head of key partner italy admits invading libya was a mistake and did a study u. turn the french defense minister says the rebels should negotiate with moammar gadhafi this is the same man that they already indicted in the international court . so. i mean from a legal point of view it's even imposs

did not support the war on libya that. in a way put him out of his job as a party head of his liberal party here in germany this happened seven days after germany voted with russia and china. china in the last days has voted to keep contacts with the opposition and germany to make good on the flaw see in political germany. you know replenish the empty arsenals of some of the nato allies which is usually a normal thing to do but in this case it has a certain smear on it and very definitely germany is under a lot of pressure the media accused mr vest and the government not to be able to conduct a coherent strategy where of course it's very clear that we do not take part in warfare with soldiers but replenish of allies is normal thing to do but what we see here is that the media in germany under our fears u.s. influence is also accusing germany of being in bad company by voting together with russia which is not reflecting the good position of our bilateral connections and contacts or looking forward mr hostility think that ge

solution to the conflict in libya and a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force to museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. to. the process of the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokes person for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and his he is a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar tora b. he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jump any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you amara in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear it here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying that he his son and

which gets out or some of these clans and some of his regime figures will be part of the future of libya this is what's that's the question that is. put forward now ok the other thing also is well how many negative consequences can happen in any armed campaign and we can talk about you know what can happen in the post as well whether he stays in power or partly in power or whether. some of it is or whether he goes away in both cases there will be some negative consequences in aftermath of nature's intervention ok mark what do you think about nato intervention in libya today. later in the program i'll quote some of the figures within nato bickering among themselves and pointing fingers i guess they didn't think about it too far ahead when they started this campaign go ahead. well nato always goes into places as i know very well from from previous experience with nato interventions for his own reasons there's no concern there for any opposition however marginal or have a morally justified they may or may not be nato is. aggressive alliance which operates on the basis of that it wants to pl

following welcome across top gun control about libya's stalemate in the sand and nato bombing campaign and aid to anti kadafi rebels have only hardened political facts on the ground western intervention was intended to last a few weeks now is open ended instead of dislodging khadafi nato allies are left to bicker among themselves. can. start. to cross the nato mission in libya i'm joined by io johnson in london he's the founder and director of viewpoint africa also in london we have marco gas a key is a political analyst an expert on south east european affairs and in barcelona we cross to omar archer he is a lecturer in politics of the modern arab world at the university of exit are all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means you can jump in anytime you want omar i'd like to go to you first in barcelona how would you assess nato's operations in libya to date because depending on the news source you want to read it stalemate it's quagmire. we've coming across reports that rebels committing human rights. violations they're not looking so pretty anymore and it's just basically a civ

saying he believes the alliance wants only to based on libya's riches. these country is a piece of cake rich in the jazz boy and we have more than one hundred million dollars deposits abroad so we have to show you the scale of that. and you have to get. because it is the only obstacle between. a person and i think it's as simple as that you can check out the full version of this exclusive interview on our website r.t. dot com. the hague war crimes tribunal has entered a plea of not guilty on behalf of a former bosnian serb general and he was ordered out of the court for interrupting the charge and speaking out of turn the former general later complained of having had trouble hearing previously the judge refused to spy on the hearing at the request of another truth threatened to boycott proceedings is rejected the legal team given to him by the court that morning to choose its own defense lawyers well that it is accused of ordering the mass killing of thousands of bosnian muslims during the balkans war carter's country as arab reports many serbs feel the

to the conflict in libya can a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. that can. start. the process of the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and his album r.t. he's a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar torre of he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is cross talk to means cross-talk rules in effect and that means you can jump anytime you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you amara in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see why mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we hear here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying they tell

the conflict in libya could a stable democratic and whole libya be created through the use of force museum change and is there still a realistic possibility of a political solution. to. the ongoing conflict in libya i'm joined by jim brann in london he's the spokesperson for the stop the war coalition also in london we have and his album marty he's a libyan political analyst and in los angeles we cross to omar tora be he is a political analyst and a founding member of the libyan human rights commission all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means crosstalk rules in effect and that means you can jam any time you want and i always start this program with the person that had to get up early as far as i'm going to go to you omar in los angeles is there a political solution to the conflict ongoing conflict now in libya because we see why mainstream media says that's not a possibility though we have here european officials saying there is there should be a possibility of a political solution and we have the the international criminal court saying that the his son and a security chief

germany agrees to supply nato forces in libya with more munitions drawing criticism for deviating from its original position on intervention amid speculation it's been pressured by other alliance members. meanwhile the blocs cooperation was moscow might be taking to a new level as discussions on a common missile to fan system in europe are expected to dominate the russian nato summit in sochi. plus his former general plans to boycott the u.n. war crimes here and work he faces charges of genocide serbs to lost their families during the bosnian war saying justice is totally one sided. and. they are winning straight taken from the previous week as they try to close the global games for market analysis in about twenty minutes in business. eleven am in the russian capital you're watching r t a marina joshie germany has agreed to supply munitions for the nato air strikes in libya the move comes despite berlin never originally backing the operation and some suggest peer pressure has caused a shift in position as it is a renegotiate reports berlin's attempt to have its cake and eat it may not

of libya's causing widespread atrocities every. military person that was supposedly a casualty there were ten civilians frauds categorically ruled out send big grilled troops but expose predicted the old. greek the libyan deadlock the moves the splitting the nato coalition silvio berlusconi head of key partners italy invading libya was a mistake and did a study u. turn the fridge defense minister says the ruble should negotiate with the world we could not free this is the same man that they're already indicted in the international court so. i mean from a legal point of view it's even possible. votes for an bombs would bring in libya to pay said bill eighty two killed supports love rothwell quote lloyd lee diplomats speak for a blazing row with elections just annoying months away soccer with boys is that a successful war could resurrect his chances instead on paper rights libya's becoming a slow motion crash for france's deeply unpopular president. is easy jogging for excessive sweating is understandable as his libyan sprint is turn

to cross the nato mission in libya i'm joined by io johnson in london he's the founder and director of viewpoint africa also in london we have marco gas a key is a political analyst an expert on south east european affairs and in barcelona we call cross to omar ashour he is a lecturer in politics of the modern arab world at the university of exit are all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means you can jump in anytime you want omar and i could go to you first in barcelona how would you assess nato's operations in libya today because if any on the new source you want to read it stalemate it's quagmire. we're coming across reports of rebels committing our human rights. violations they're not looking so pretty anymore and it's just basically a civil war that has come to a stalemate so how would you assess nato's operations today. well it's that's a civil resistance campaign thirty two ship that somehow turned into an on conflict because that was the choice of a bare feet a logically needed intervention came out of necessity calls from the. opposition fighters nineteenth of march the s

and in libya what's what's been said about that. well indeed on the sidelines of the russian nato council meeting there was a trilateral meeting with the russian president's meeting with a very different nato secretary general and the president of south africa jacob zuma came to present new ideas on how to resolve the conflict in libya the ideas were deprived from the recent summit of the african union and he was here speaking on behalf of the union now the ideas were her doubts but it seems that russia and nato are still not on the same page when it comes to resolving the conflict in libya. russia still believes the air dropping arms to libya violates arms embargo while the secretary general rasmussen has been saying that in fact everything that's done in libya all parts of the operation are gordy going according to the u.n. security council's resolution let's listen to what russian foreign minister lavrov had to say. which we believe that the arms embargo that was introduced by the un security council is straightforward and it is

was a mistake rocher upstream did the un's vote warning foreign bombs would bring havoc in libya. said the latest count supports the. loire valley diplomat speak for a blazing row with elections just annoying months away psagot advisor said a successful war could resurrect his chances instead one paper writes libya's becoming a slow motion call crash for france's deeply unpopular president so is easy jogging for excessive sweating is understandable this is libyan spring is turning into a marathon the new bush will see paris. russia's foreign minister was in the u.s. capital this week to get clarification on washington's missile defense agenda america is steaming ahead with deployment of its anti-missile shield in europe despite objections from moscow the u.s. claims the project is aimed at protection against an attack by iran or north korea but russia feels the system could threaten its own national security moscow has suggested a joint missile defense program but that's being brushed aside by washington and nato the u.s. is also refusing to. provide a legally binding guarantees t

is to control libya this is the target . and the libyans will not allow them to do that so the fight will continue what do you think about media war who's winning this war at the beginning the one. they want. or the one because it was planned from beginning to get out me is. collapsed that i was really. into it because the whole country. is still now suffering from that case but now the libyans are we are one day everybody and they were saying the libyan libyan navy is bombing the harbor off. ms there is in the middle of the desert is one thousand kilometers on here it is the libyan ships that are bombing the harbor of mr excuse me the security council issued the resolution against libya because of a fake media report saying that the libyan air force is bombing. civilian districts in tripoli and killing seven thousand people we started with the past let me finish with the future. it's knowing that you get a message from the front that there will be no place for you in a post-war libya and with this. war interest i want broad

now, libya is important. it is important because there are american troops, part of a coalition that has been put there by the president without really consulting congress, and now there is a resolution which, frankly, i could not support. i will not give the president authority to continue this. i think we need a full and fair debate on that, but now is not the time to be doing that when we are four weeks away from a potential debt crisis that could affect our -- people in our country right now, people who depend on our government to function, as well as our global standing. so let's talk about what we could do. what we could do is produce a budget. it has been 797 days or so since the senate has passed a budget resolution, so we haven't set the level of spending and the priorities for spending that congress, which is our constitutional responsibility, it is congress' to pass a budget, we haven't passed a budget in almost two years, almost two years. now, we have got to do that because we're coming on about

it is different from libya. >> libya is a constant issue and is likely to remain so until gaddafi has been dealt with. >> gaddafi is indicted by the internationanal crinal court. when he is no longer in power, the international community will examine what it can do in libya. >> in the antime, the debate goes on. germany wants to help t the security council prepare for the post-khaddafi era to ensure therere is no power vacuum. the reputation was dented when it abstaineded on the security council of be e a relution in march. >> germany has really been in the fore of extending the responsibility to protect people, especially on protecting civilians. abstaining in that kind of situation was sending a difficult signal. >> germany had pushed harard foa seat on the security council. the bya abstention has caused political tensions. >> especially when guests,, the question arises, is this the beginning of a german polili of placing ourselves outside the partnership framework? that has been the criticism in the media. we do think the government has realized that by abstaining, it did not posi

meanwhile germany agrees to supply the blocks forces in libya with more munitions drawing criticism for deviating from its original position on intervention and it's speculation it's been pressured by other nato members. plus his former general rocking lodge plans to boycott the u.n. war crimes court hearing words he faces charges of genocide and serbs who lost their families during the bosnian war see justice is totally one sided. this is actually coming to live from moscow i'm marina joshie a chance for a breakthrough on a common missile defense system is up for grabs today for nato the alliance hander's fogh rasmussen is russia's city of sochi for talks at a missile shield is something that is guaranteed to be brought to the table artisan time the vicar has more on the spot. it has been russia's concern for a very long time now russia doesn't want and the arms race and if nato is to place its and try missile defense shield in europe and then for a missile defense shield that's going to be covering a big part of the russians russia's territory then of course an arms race exactly what'