i like lindsey graham. i think he's a positive force in the united states senate and a reasonable person but i could not disagree with him more on this issue of the tea party's contribution. the fact of the matter is and the american people believe this by an overwhelming margin is everybody has to put something into the pot to get us out of this. that includes all those wealthy bankers and corporations that the republican tax breaks went to ten years ago. we've got to all put something into the pot. it is unfair and unreasonable to ask middle class people and seniors on medicare to take a big hit when bankers and oil companies continue to take our tax payers' money. that is not right it's not fair. i don't care how vociferous the tea party is is. that's not a winning strategy for a elections or the country. >> schieffer: there's no question that the president has moved more to the center in an effort to resolve this and find compromise. did he make a mistake doing that? i mean, if you were president right

bob graham came in second in that primary which forced a runoff. and i do for the second primary i had dinner with a bunch of florida reporters who are covering the race. and who went around the table predicting who would win the next day. and everyone there with the exception of one person, who was not me, predicted that bob graham would lose the next morning to attorney general options. so much of the wisdom of the florida press corps. of course, bob graham one the run off and went on to serve two terms as governor and three terms as the night state senator from florida. the highlight of the career undoubtedly came 12 years ago when he and mickey mantle installed as president of the national press club. also know senator graham was chairman of the senate intelligence committee on september 11, 2001, and chaired the joint house-senate inquiry into the terrorist attacks of the day. he famously asked the question of why the intelligence community had failed to connect the dots that might have revealed the conspiracy before the attacks. now in his bo

bob graham came in second in that primary which forced a runoff. the night before the second primary i had dinner with a bunch of florida reporters who were covering the race and we went round the table predicting who would win the next day. and everyone there with the exception of one person who was not me, predicted that bob graham would lose the next morning to charity general bob chevan. so much for the wisdom of the florida press corps. of course bob graham won the run up runoff then went on to serve two terms as governor in three terms as the united states senator from florida. the highlight of that career undoubtedly came 12 years ago when he and -- installed made as president of the national press club. also of note senator graham was chairman of the senate intelligence committee on september 11, 2001 and chair the joint senate and green to the terrorist attacks of that day. he famously asked the question, why the intelligence committee had failed to connect the dots in light of the revealed conspiracy before the attacks? now in his book, "

graham plans to make his trek to the ocean's floor this fall. cheryl hurd, nbc bay area news. >>> dozens of people are out this morning to walk for a cause. today marked the 7th annual breast cancer challenge. a five k run and walk named after the late bay area newscaster. the event is not just to raise awareness about breast cancer, but it's also to raise funds for breast cancer research. cheryl hurd was there today walking as well. >>> let's check in with rob mayeda on the weather, a little cold out there this morning? >> it was. we did have a lot of low clouds around oakland throughout the day. you can see today's highs running cool for this time of year, speaking of oakland, 67 degrees, 66 in san francisco. look at livermore, only 79 today. same story in san jose. we had southeast winds pulling at the cool air from the south. very cool afternoon around the bay area. cool evening, at least seeing sun in san jose, different story from oakland to san francisco. 63 degrees in oakland and 60 in san francisco. again, what's really jumping out on t

who put into law the commodities futures modernization act and another piece of legislation called graham leach bliley which end of glass steagall and set up are too big to fail banks which both by the way helped his wife wendy make a fortune as a member of the board of directors of enron graham's legislative masterpiece is often called the enron loophole and much of perry's wonderful economy in texas is the result of oil prices triple in the last decade and texas is the home to lots and lots of oil refineries so many in fact that texas produces more pollution than any other state in the union. great way to jump start the economy rick it's almost like you're channeling the enron c.e.o. ken lay and conveniently die just before he can testify at his own trial and spill the beans about phil and wendy gramm phil gramm helped make fortunes in his home state of texas both when he was a congressman from there and a senator and when his wife helped run enron even coauthored ronald reagan's first budget which cut taxes on billionaires raise taxes on working people and began the death spiral of tod

according to wiki leaks diplomatic cables back in two thousand and nine mccain lindsey graham and joe lieberman met with gadhafi senator mccain assured libya that the united states wanted to provide libya with if it needed for the libyan security program including c one thirty s. he pledged to see what he could do to move things forward in congress so whose side of these republicans are ocado us or climb up the reason that khadafi was not able to use any weapons of mass destruction that he was building in his arsenal and it's because republicans launched a war in iraq if you want to count the success there is the fact that he got scared of what happened in iraq as he told the italian prime minister and was willing to negotiate his weapons away i think lindsey graham and and you know the weapons the lindsey graham and john mccain going over to get through those talking actually all we've got you imagine u m d's there's no question about it he negotiated in the way this is this is well known and and what and where did they go and what they gave about the international inspectors as a re

graham welcome. great to see so what's the energy like on the ground in wisconsin today and today it's it's unbelievable i've been up here at one of the campaign offices for alberta darling she's one of our property down we're fighting against alberta darling excuse me it's been a long campaign. campaign for a city crashes one of our great recall senators and it's unbelievable the top there are very marked for ships we've had record numbers of contacts ships people to find out the door doing doors being in literature drop of literature being in or not being in or doors going to win this thing it sounds like you've got a lot of basically kind of people power energy going there graham. i'm thirty million dollars is being i mean this isn't even like helicoptering money and it's like flying c. run thirty's over and dropping off alex and yeah you know in iraq you're actually right with all the shady money that's come in here on behalf of walker look they're protecting their investment they've bought and p

according to wiki leaks it will matter cables back in two thousand and nine which again lindsey graham and joe lieberman met with gadhafi senator mccain assured libya that the united states wanted to provide libya with if it needed for the libyan security program including c one thirty s. he pledged to see what he could do to move things forward in congress so whose side of these republicans are those or could come to reason that could off he was not able to use any of the weapons of mass destruction that he was building in his arsenal is because republicans launched a war in iraq if you want to count the success there is the fact that he got scared of what happened in iraq as he told the italian prime minister and was willing to negotiate his weapons away i think lindsey graham and and weapons the lindsey graham and john mccain going over to mill about those get through not those who were talking actually but we've got to imagine u m d's you know he had a there's no question about it he negotiated in the way this is this is well known and and what and where did they go and what if the

wisconsin graham welcome. hey tom great to see so what's the energy like on the ground in wisconsin today and today it's a it's unbelievable i've been appearing at one of the campaign offices for alberta darling she's one of our well pretty known were fighting against poverty during excuse me it's been a long campaign. campaign for a city crashes one of our great recall senators and it's unbelievable the top there re mark for ships we've had record numbers of contacts ships people are flying out the door new indoors getting in literature dropping literature banging doors ready to win this thing it sounds like you've got a lot of basically kind of people power energy go on their gram. i'm thirty million dollars is being i mean this isn't even like helicoptering money and it's like flying c. one thirty's over and dropping all the allies and you know you don't you're actually right with all the shady money that's come in here on behalf of scott walker look they're protecting their investment they bought and paid

quoting from the document, senators mccain and graham conveyed the u.s. interest in continuing the progress of the bilateral relationship and pledged to try to resolve the c-130 issue with congress and defense secretary gates. they even gave gadhafi advice on how to handle bad public relations as a result of the pan am bomber coming home. let's bring in national affairs correspondent for rolling stone magazine tim dickinson. i appreciate your time now. this criticism that these senators were laying on president obama comes after they were meeting with moammar gadhafi just months before. what do you make of that. what should we take from the story? >> all this is going down the memory hole. gadhafi was our man in north africa. the signature of success, diplomatic success of the bush administration, we scared saddam and scared him straight. the bush policy and the obama policy was one of engagement, one of offering endeucement to get gadhafi to live up to his commitments to give up his wmd and crackdown on insurgents, we call them rebels today in benghazi a

quoting from the document, senators mccain and graham conveyed the u.s. interest in continuing the progress of the bilateral relationship and pledged to try to resolve the c-130 issue with congress and defense secretary gates. they even gave gadhafi advice on how to handle bad public relations as a result of the pan am bomber coming home. let's bring in national affairs correspondent for rolling stone magazine tim dickinson. i appreciate your time now. this criticism that these senators were laying on president obama comes after they were meeting with moammar gadhafi just months before. what do you make of that. what should we take from the story? >> all this is going down the memory hole. gadhafi was our man in north africa. the signature of success, diplomatic success of the bush administration, we scared saddam and scared him straight. the bush policy and the obama policy was one of engagement, one of offering inducement to get gadhafi to live up to his commitments to give up his wmd and crackdown on insurgents, we call them rebels today in benghazi an

with his friend senator lindsey graham. it congratulates other alternate countries involved in the support mission for the rebels in libya. but as for the u.s., senators mccain and graham say "reget the success was so long and coming due to the failure of the united states employ our full air power. one interesting thing about twitter is it can be a time machine. if you have the patience you can control down, down, down the page until you get to, say, two years ago this week when the same john mccain today criticizing president obama for not waging enough of a war on gadhafi, even as gadhafi appears to being overthrown. two years ago this week john mccain was tweeting about his late evening with colonel gadhafi in his ranch in libya. interesting meeting with an interesting man. the war does not knit neatly in politics, senator graham and mccain want to look like the most anti-gadhafi people around, in contrast with this wimpy president. but these there's the darn footage effectively cuddling up with gadhafi two summers ago

senator graham, how about a little clarification on that one? nobody has criticized president obama on foreign policy like dick cheney, shooter. he's been wrong on the war on terror more than anybody in america. when chris wallace asked cheney what he would do about gadhafi, well, he misfired big time. >> it's not enough to simply sit on the sidelines and say get rid of gadhafi. what are you going do about it? you are prepared to use the resources of the united states to make that happen? and it's been -- it looks as though what the policy of the administration has been is to hope for gadhafi's departure but not be prepared to do enough to make sure it hatches. >> don't you love how we save all this stuff? president obama was more than up to the task. but republicans, they just can't give him any credit at all. now so let's just imagine for a moment that president bush would have delivered the death of osama bin laden and end end gadhafi's reign of terror. i don't think we would have ever heard the end of it. this is freedom on the march. gadhaf

winder and graham are very interesting characters. graham was an important surgeon. he actuay devised a mechanism he inventethe removal of the lobe of the lung for lung cancer. when winder was a student went up to him and said do you think there's a link between smoking, smoking is going up, lung cancer is going up could there be a link and graham said so has the use of nylon stockings. how cod there possibly be a link. it was invisible. through this inkriebl careful epidemiological studies where they followed doctors prospectively over time that they began to discern the link that those who smoked died of long cancer while those who didn't smoke didn't die of lung cancer. >> charlie: what's the most deadly cancer. >> the list of culprits is quite nasty but among the big ones these days, pancreatic cancer. >> charlie: yes that? >> begin, we're not sure we know. part of the reason we think, part of the reason is that for some reason chemotherapy or other drugs don't seem to get into these tumors easily. that's not the only reason, there are other reasons as well. the

it's not just senators mccain and graham. this is a military intervention multilateral where america did not take the lead, in which there were no americans killed, but the u.s. either did or is about to, it seems, get what it wants. the republican-led house voted to defund the war but the vote was taken away toothless. the administration tried to get away without calling it awar. those that denounced it as a quagmire have seemingly been proven wrong. at this hour with libya and capital city almost entirely in rebel hands but gadhafi himself unaccounted for, the question is not only how america assesses our role in what has just happened but how we chose our role in what happens next. joining us is dan rather, anchor and managing editor of "dan rather reports." good to have you here. thank you for being here. >> great to be here on a night like tonight. what an exciting and interesting inspirational time. this is a transforming year and transformational decade. we had the arob spring, which extended now into the arab summer.

both by the way helped his wife wendy make a fortune as a member of the board of directors of enron graham's legislative masterpiece is often called the enron loophole and much of perry's wonderful economy in texas is the result of oil prices triple in the last decade and texas is the home to lots and lots of oil refineries so many in fact that texas produces more pollution than any other state in the union. great way to jump start the economy rick it's almost like you're channeling the enron c.e.o. ken lay who conveniently died just before he can testify at his own trial and spill the beans about phil and wendy gramm phil gramm helped make fortunes in his home state of texas both when he was a congressman from there and a senator and when his wife helped run enron even coauthored ronald reagan's first budget which cut taxes on billionaires raise taxes on working people and began the death spiral of today's american working class so i guess after destroying the american middle class advisor george w. bush cram wants to finish the job with his protege rick perry. as the big picture for tonigh

diplomat in libya john graham joins us live from the u.s. . now you are a former u.s. diplomat in libya your experience with the regime how do you think colonel gadhafi fate will play out at this point well i've said from the beginning the one thing that you can predict about colonel gadhafi is that he's unpredictable i do think that the guy really does have a messiah complex and it's quite likely that he will go down fighting he's always said he would and you know apparently get holed up in barracks and. he could very well do that i would be surprised if he ended up say in colombia as in bob worry as a refugee it could happen he's unpredictable but i doubt it now we are hearing that the road to tunisia is blocked by rebels at this point why are these routes a block and is this to capture the loyalists or to prevent people from escaping the country what are your thoughts on this. well i i'm not at the border your reporters there at the border but i would say they're probably making sure that some of the key players in the regime don't go yet off they rather they'd rath

little handy work with graham which while it blowing up steam go on commodity futures modernization act creating all these weird to reveal all these other things that these fundamentals our trade fundamentals none of these things that thirty years ago provided for seventy years one hundred thirty five until reagan basically provided a sense of a measure of real stability none of these things which have been pulled out or smashed or thrown away have been replaced and until they are we're going to continue on this rollercoaster is that are a reasonable statement in english of how an economist would would say it. absolutely but add one thing for thirty years the real wages of american workers have not been raise average hour of work adjusted for the prices you pay gets you about what you got in one thousand seven hundred eight today if you create a working class that has no improvement for thirty years and which holds on to the american dream only by borrowing until they literally can't anymore you come to the end of the rope you can't afford to buy what you need and you can't borrow a

but it's not senator mccain and graham, this is a military intervention where america did not take the lead, in which there were no americans killed, but the u.s. either did or is about to, it seems, get what it wants. the republican-led house voted to defund the war. the administration tried to get away with not calling it a war, the voices left, right, and center that denounced nato and libya as a -- proven wrong. today gadhafi himself is still unaccounted for. the question is not only how america assesses our role in what happened but how we chose our role in what happens next. joining us now, dan rather, mr. rather, it is very good to have you here, thank you for being here. >> great to be here on a night like tonight. what an exciting and inspirational time. this is a transforming year and a transformational decade. we had the arab spring and with syria and yemen still out there, perhaps, perhaps to extend into an arab winter. the echoes of this will reverberate through history for a very, very long time to come. >> i know you have personally interviewed moammar gadhafi three time

of selling weapons to libya and now you have that same senator john mccain we have senator lindsey graham basically chiding pres. and obama for not being forceful enough now using are enough power there you know usually or obviously we always see this somehow being brought back to domestic politics is that just become too again we recognize too well. well it's the same kind of dance we carried out with saddam hussein we were instrumental in helping to organize his ground and air defenses during the war with iran. we provided him all sorts of support and. gave very nebulous messages to him after he invaded kuwait so i think for those of us who come out of the middle east this isn't much of a surprise. the. inability on the a part of the american foreign policy establishment to draw a very clear lines and often to work with some of the you know dubious personalities including of course gadhafi and saddam hussein if they deem it a national security interests is something that's been a long history of there's been a long history of that in the middle east now chris one of the things that has

leaks cables give an in-depth account of senators john mccain lindsey graham and joe lieberman meeting with the gulf you son to discuss a long term bilateral relationship between the two countries and a promise that the u.s. would provide arms and military gear to the country and take seriously its requests to be treated with more respect fast forward to today as we know these are the same three lawmakers who have said the u.s. should have provided more weapons more support to the rebels to help take down gadhafi and this is interesting too it's not just the lawmakers. who can't take who can't make up their minds about moammar gadhafi the libyan dictator it's also the lobbyist here in washington they are in the same boat according to the national journal. it says influence peddlers who once worked for the libyan leader moammar gadhafi regime are scrambling to publicly sever ties with the strongman of their competitors are helping his country's rebels gain a valuable foothold in washington the same article also shows that there's two lobbying firms here patton boggs and the harbor group

of selling weapons to libya and now you have that same senator john mccain we have senator lindsey graham basically chiding pres. and obama for not being forceful enough not using are enough power there you know usually or obviously we always see this somehow being brought back to domestic politics is that just become too again we recognize too well. well it's the same kind of dance that we carried out with saddam hussein we were instrumental in helping to organize his ground and air defenses during the war with iraq. we provided him all sorts of support and. gave very nebulous messages to him after he invaded kuwait so i think for those of us who come out of the middle east this isn't much of a surprise. the. inability on the part of the american foreign policy establishment to draw very clear lines and often to work with some very you know dubious personalities including of course gadhafi and saddam hussein if they deem it a national security interest is something that's been a long history there's been a long history of that in the middle east now chris one of the things that has reall

in oxford is graham cluley he's senior technology called consultant at so post to tell us there's a problem with this thanks for being with us now i know you're a cyber security expert and you're one of the few that hasn't joined most that we're hearing from in the media saying that china is to blame for this even though there's no evidence of it so why is that why are you the only one saying this. just all i want is a little bit of proof it seems so easy it's a point a finger at china and they must be the ones who have done this and proof simply is no no not so much china doesn't hacking into computers i'm sure they do and you know what so do the belgians so do the greeks so the french the americans the canadians everybody's at it and it's just too easy to point a finger just in one direction so why do you think everyone does that people in your industry and the media that's all to happy just to repeat that why does everybody just point straight to china well no one's going to question you if you blame china no one's going to say well where do you get that idea from if you're going to chin

nine where just released wiki leaks cables give an in-depth account of senators john mccain lindsey graham and joe lieberman meeting with gadhafi son to discuss a long term bilateral relationship between the two countries and a promise that the u.s. will provide arms and military gear to libya and take seriously its requests to be treated with more respect fast forward to today as we know these are the same three lawmakers who have said that the u.s. should have provided more weapons more support to the rebels to help help take down gadhafi and this is interesting too it's not just the lawmakers here in washington who can't make up their minds about the libyan dictator the lobbyists here in d.c. are in the same goat according to an article in the national journal influence peddlers who once worked for the libyan leader are scrambling to publicly sever ties with the strongman while their competitors are helping his country's rebels gain a valuable foot hole and foothold in washington the same article also shows that some other lobbyist firms have signed on with the libyan transitional natio

nine where just released wiki leaks cables give an in-depth account of senators john mccain lindsey graham and joe lieberman meeting with gadhafi son and discussing a long term bilateral relationship. between the two countries and also a promise the u.s. would provide arms and military gear to the country and take seriously requests that the government be treated with more respect now today as we know these are the same three lawmakers who have said the u.s. should have provided more weapons more support to the rebels to help take down gadhafi and this is interesting too it's not just the lawmakers here in washington who can't make up their minds about the libyan dictator the lobbyists here in d.c. are in the same boat according to the national journal influence peddlers lobbyists who once worked for the libyan leader are scrambling to publicly sever ties with the strongman while their competitors are helping his country's rebels gain a valuable foothold in washington the same article also shows that patton vons of the harbor group two lobbyist firms here have signed on with the libyan tra

it's not really surprising that mccain, graham, lieberman take this shot. they were to the right of president obama, to the right of congress in wanting intervention much sooner. but this, one big issue here for the president is the fact that the economy remains such a big problem. domestically, we know that just thigh months ago, bin laden was killed. that bounce didn't last very long. >> amazing. >> three months ago. >> right. >> people were proclaiming he was a shoe in for re-election. >> and now people are saying there's no chance he's going to be re-elected, right? so the truth is probably always somewhere in the middle. but the thing is, and look, his supporters are not really celebrateding this. one supporter said to me, look, this is a notch in his belt. it's another notch, but look, with the economy being what it is, that is going to determine what happens next year. >> and the president acknowledges that himself. the president onlies the focus is still on the economy. >> you've got an unemployment rate that is still too high and an economy that is

nine where just released wiki leaks cables giving him down for a count of senators john mccain lindsey graham and joe lieberman meeting with gadhafi son to discuss a long term bilateral relationship between the two countries and a promise that the u.s. will provide arms and military gear to the country and take seriously its requests to be treated with more respect now today as we know these are the same three lawmakers who have said the u.s. should have provided more weapons and more support to the rebels to help take down gadhafi and this is interesting too it's not just the lawmakers here in washington who can't make up their minds about the libyan dictator a lobbyist here in d.c. are the same are in the same boat at least according to the national journal they say influence peddlers who once worked for the libyan leader moammar gadhafi regime are scrambling to publicly sever ties with the strongman while their competitors are helping his country's rebels gain of valuable foothold in launching to meanwhile the same article shows that other lobbyist firms here in d.c. have signed on with th

of selling weapons to libya and now you have that same senator john mccain we have senator lindsey graham basically chiding president obama for not being forceful enough now using our enough power there you know usually or obviously we always see this somehow being brought back to domestic politics is that just become too again we recognize too well. well it's the same kind of dance that we carried out with saddam hussein we were instrumental in helping to organize his ground and air defenses during the war with iran. we provided him all sorts of support and. gave very nebulous messages to him after he invaded kuwait so i think for those of us who come out of the middle east this isn't much of a surprise. the. inability on the a part of the american foreign policy establishment to draw very clear lines and often to work was some very you know dubious personalities including of course gadhafi and saddam hussein if they deem it a national security interest and this is something that's been a long history there's been a long history of that in the middle east now chris one of the things that

called out once in a while even if it is on fox so-called news and bad senators john mccain and lindsey graham the two republicans released this statement in response to the apparent victory of the rebels in libya graduating all those forces that made it happen. except the united states the strange statement from these two united states senators read we. british french and other allies as well as our arab partners especially to our in the u.a.e. for their leadership in this conflict but we regret that the success was so long in coming due to the failure of the united states to employ the full weight of our air power. i almost forgot the republican president obama cannot receive any credit under any circumstances if a republican were in the white house on the other hand and mccain and graham would be hosed you know there is a parade for him or her and the very very ugly the donald. trump is david letterman likes to columns on fox so called news this morning to give his advice on what our military should do now that libya is under control of the rebels. so what do we get out of it why don't we t

senator graham will remain until you have signed them all, i hope. >> yeah. >> i want to thank nicole hoffman and julie shoe for helping us arrange this evening. senator, it was great to see you. >> good to be here. [applause] [applause] >> this event was hosted by national press club in washington, d.c., for more information visit press.org. >> we continue with more from frankfurt, kentucky. up next, lindsey apple. she explores the life of senator henry clay. >> henry clay was an early 19th century politician, statesman, he ran for president three times, tried to get the nomination on two others, failed on all occasions, but he's probably the best known nonpresident of that period. >> why is that? >> well -- dana walker howell argues that clay had the most expansive vision for the country of any politician of that period. he's speaking basically of the american system. which was an attempt to unify the country. we were a big country, in fact, most people thought we could not exist as a democracy. as large as we were. he believed through transportation, commerce, we could tie the coun

i want to ask something about what lindsey graham told chuck and i a bit ago. he said that he sees a shift, a philosophical shift in the republican party against support for the armed services against defense spending. his concern for the trig ere is it really would place huge burdens on defense and that he is less eager to take that hard and fast no tax pledge. he sees ways where loopholes could be closed. where do you come down on that? if you had to make the tough choice between defense spending and being rigid on the tax front where would you vote? >> i'm new to washington, but i was a governor for ten years. i'm a very strong supporter of our military. the point is we get some savings up front. now we have a committee, six senators, six members of the house go to work. they're going to look for additional savings. if they don't get into the real reforms, whether we look at tax reform, entitlement reform. if they don't get into these issues then we've got the automatic cuts. the point is nobody likes the automatic cuts. the point is they need to get to a pr

hysteria from neo cons and cheerleaders like the heritage foundation and of course senator lindsey graham. i don't know why they're going to pick a number of a few in there and start reducing the defense department we're slowing the growth of the but we're still got massive instead of running toward bankruptcy we're walking toward bankruptcy. but you know just throwing numbers around is ok when it comes to entitlements social programs but not for defense isn't it but in all reality this is kind of a big deal that suddenly defense is being threatened and it may be a serious way to do we see this is a real threat or is it just a line intended to keep the military industrial complex going on forever and this guy says if we have lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer senior fellow at the center for advanced defense studies and he's also still serving as a reserve lieutenant colonel tony thanks so much for being here today rather than ok so a lot of this is speculation of course they haven't voted on it yet hopefully we won't do you call this is going to go through and you know you know as well as

for me oh cars and war two cheerleaders like the heritage foundation and of course senator lindsey graham. we're going to pick a number of the fin there and start reducing the defense department we're slowing the growth of the but we're still adding a massive amount of instead of running toward bankruptcy we're walking toward bankruptcy. funny how just throwing numbers around is ok when it comes to entitlement and social programs but not for defense isn't it but in all reality this is kind of a big deal that suddenly defense is being threatened and i may be serious way so do we see this is a real threat or is it just one intended to keep the military industrial complex going on forever or this gus's if we have lieutenant colonel anthony shaffer senior fellow at the center for advanced defense studies and he's also still serving as a reserve lieutenant colonel tony thanks so much for being here today rather than ok so a lot of this is speculation of course they haven't voted on it yet hopefully we won't do you fall this is going to go through and you know you know as well as anyone else th

smoke and mirrors go like i mentioned we are here seeing hysteria from people like senator lindsey graham the heritage foundation is already coming out making statements that say the democrats want to favor economic security over national security and how dare they but when these people ever get into the two are intertwined that's right and i think that's the issue here it's all good drama i think much of what we've seen of those sides you know it fundamentally conserve them and conserving my beliefs has been great theater i mean you know we're talking about people who do have a vested interest in both sides neither side is going to go grab hard against the fence and he started going to do a better of against economic issues therefore all they're doing here is once again kicking the can down the road they're offering up something that they know no one will have the courage to cut one a time comes in november so if you had to think of some kind of let's say you look at real placed full programs how much do you think would be cut from defense let's just say you know hypothetically if this t

in your statement, senator graham, you put it on the trigger. you pit it on this issue of pentagon cuts on philosophical points. you said you feel as if wait a minute, we've gone too far on this. >> i think you're a good political analyst. this is a philosophical shift of the republican party. the republican party has been about two things since i've been around, a limited government and a strong national defense. i cannot imagine ronald reagan exposing the defense dept to the sequestration trigger provisions. i'm all for lower taxes. this is a philosophical shift for the republican party saying defense spending is not the mothers important part after to budget anymore. it is of lesser importance and that disturbs me. >> isn't that the point of a trigger that you want to put something above the heads of those folks on supercongress -- no not really. >> so they don't pull it. >> here's high i don't want to play games with men and women in uniform. every democrat, republican and independent should want a strong national defense in a time of great

not a surprise we are hearing quickly from senators mccain and graham. they've been very vocal and out front on thinks military issues. >> kate, thanks. >>> before the war, libya pumped out nearly 2% of the world as oil. if that flow starts up soon, what could could it mean. christine romans is in new york. do prices look look they'll keep sliding, christine? >> it's interesting, because here oil prices are going up, but they're going up with stock prices today the moof is maybe it won't be a double-dip recession, but overall you have euphoria if i had libya back on the market that could be a indicator, and if you don't have europe worrying about that quantity of oil, that's better overall for the markets. the president tapped the reserves earlier, because they had, so how big is it? the 167th largee oil producer, at least in good times. 2% of the world's oil supply, again before its civil wart. 1.8 million barrels a day. the u.s. directly consumes only about 3%, kyra, of libya's oil exports, almost all of it goes straight to europe, which is basically h

, phil graham disappeared from the campaign, dole did end up with the nomination, which is a rare outcome for this thing. 1999, you had george w. bush, finally someone who won it who went on to get the nomination and presidency. and last time around, mitt romney won this thing and then won just about nothing else after it, so it is not something that is very predictive of what is going to happen next, and even in a case like george w. bush, no one needed this little straw poll to indicate how strong the candidacy of george w. bush was when he was running. >> exactly, the media say in their own defense, that look, not many people vote, but it's a sign of organizational ability to get people to this event. well, you know, it's on a bright and sunny day. it can rain, but it's usually been sunny in the past, i've been to four of these things, you get them on air-conditioned buses to an air-conditioned tent to a very nice air-conditioned coliseum. the hilton coliseum at iowa state university where they play basketball, basketball is the state religion of iowa, it's a very nice place. that is n

we're joined now by graham hales. he's here to tell us how england's reputation has gotten a bit burnt to say the least. what d us this mean for branding for the rest of the world? >> it's particularly tragic if you mention the high point of brand england and the royal wedding, it's resulted in major setbacks. tourists are going to be concerned about their safety. trips have been postponed. >> and what about the olympics. that's an enormous exercise that's costing britains millions of pounds. then again we do have a number of companies that are specifically, it seems, being targeted. normally retailers such as j.d. sports, foot locker, electronics companies, flat tv screen salesmen. does that send a message about those particular brands? obviously it must be identified with items looters want. >> it's truly tricky. we're looking at demographics and what they're finding desirable and things they can take. you know, i think it's disappointing if that feels like that's going to tarnish those brands in any way, shape, is

by the way, cabs, muni, shuttle bus from bill graham audit get . it will be a traffic nightmare, the park is closed down. if you wanted to try to get from downtown you can probably do that. it should go on through sunday but make sure you have tickets. i would suggest you avoid this area until midnight or so on sunday. >>> looks like a lot of fun. >> they will buying a lot of sweatshirts here. >> low 50s, highs in the upper 50s. big swing there. probably mainly cloudy all three days, too. make sure you wear the sunscreen. we'll show you what is going on outside. we'll talk about how we're going to get a warming trend before cooler weather is on the way. >> plus, an accident in the air has a top american skier in big trouble. how it [ male announcer ] brace yourself for the big, bold taste of a subway® bbq pulled pork sub. tender, succulent slow-cooked pork with sweet and smoky barbecue sauce, all on freshly baked bread. subway. eat fresh®. >>> check out this amazing image from nasa. scientist say two galaxies in the first stages of colliding. the

lindsay graham we will start with you. do we know what the final adjustment on that was today? >> no, we don't. here's the way you build a defense department. you look at the threat the nation faces. you don't pick a number out of thin air and start implementing cuts. you look at the capability threat and reform. i don't like the idea that we are going to pick a number out of thin air and start reducing the defense department. i can tell you in terms of the trigger the medicare part all about doctors and hospitals since 1997 we have been very reluctant to reduce payments to doctors and hospitals. we can't find a medicare doctor now almost but the idea that that 50 percent is going to become reality in the new congress is nonexistent. i am very worried about 540 million being cut from our defense budget. >> is that a deal killer for you? >> sean, bret baier is right. the power put up by the republican shows 50 percent of the automatic cuts if the trigger comes from defense. it come -- it will be a big obvious point of discussion. >> we have two words going on. you know when the

lindsay graham we will start with you. do we know what the final adjustment on that was today? >> no, we don't. here's the way you build a defense department. you look at the threat the nation faces. you don't pick a number out of thin air and start implementing cuts. you look at the capability threat and reform. i don't like the idea that we are going to pick a number out of thin air and start reducing the defense department. i can tell you in terms of the trigger the medicare part all about doctors and hospitals since 1997 we have been very reluctant to reduce payments to doctors and hospitals. we can't find a medicare doctor now almost but the idea that that 50 percent is going to become reality in the new congress is nonexistent. i am very worried about 540 million being cut from our defense budget. >> is that a deal killer for you? >> sean, bret baier is right. the power put up by the republican shows 50 percent of the automatic cuts if the trigger comes from defense. it come -- it will be a big obvious point of discussion. >> we have two words going on. you know when the

mccain and graham conveyed the u.s. interest of continuing the progress of the bilateral relationship, and today politico obtained a response from the communications director, and read in part at no point did senator mccain ever promise to help the gadhafi >> all right. so what does this mean about the john mccain foreign policy world view? at some level, okay, granted, yes, he just told gadhafi what gadhafi wanted to hear. that said, what the cable reveals is that john mccain jz that the universe of foreign policy isn't the cartoonish vision of bombs and war that he is constantly using as a political bludgeon against his political opponents. sometimes diplomacy is ness in certain instances. in fact, he knows it because he was there as an instrument of that diploma as where i. but this blood-thirsty monster that he now touts the expull shon. john mccain understands in his private contact that the cartoonish everyist heroes and villains clashing and the picture of foreign policy that is all about the moral blackmail of y

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hundred ninety four again in one thousand nine hundred seven they're talking about it's body counts graham no most of it i'm not surprised but in all these years in washington they were perfectly aware of the colombian situation there was another they haven't done a thing you know your age and i can explain how you know this kind of phenomenon where the bodies are dressed up as they realize and presented as killed in action on and this and this idea that you need to produce bodies actually encouraged paramilitary collaboration one to get a. good look through the garbage in question of the military with the paramilitary suitable. for the park is devoted to extortion for kidnappings i'm recruiting of minors who kind of mentality look you know they don't care they have no regrets about trampling over international humanitarian law on the money they make money with the international drug dealing with the with the mix with some of the significant increase from passengers and quantum. which those were just in the. kind of purity of what was going on for many things that really flows because she

how gas fields would eventually give out. >> this is just where the gas comes in. >> reporter: carla graham lease equipment to the gas field operators. she says business has been sliding for 20 years. >> it's probably maybe a tenth of what it was. it's been that much of a decline. >> reporter: this year a company called vintage production owned by occidental petroleum took over the rio vista field. vintage won't say whether it plans to increase production. but richard amy on whose land the very first gas well was drilled offered his advice. >> the best place to drill for gas is in a gas field. [ laughter ] >> reporter: the rio vista city hall was built when the gas royalty checks had more zeros on them. the mayor says those days may never come back. >> it would be wonderful if they decided to drill and we got more royalties but i think the city's learned that that's something that really fluctuates and we can't consider it a major part of our income. >> reporter: on the hills above town, green energy production is slowly replacing the gas fields. hundreds of sleek wind turbines have transfo