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and wes moore, thank you so much for your service. and thank you for coming on tonight. >>> when we return, the troubling shift to the right in today's republican party. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. 3q double shift... i need a break. he needs some gellin'. yeahhhhhhh. gellin' is like having a teeny tiny foot masseuse in your shoe. you like ? nice ! dr. scholl's massaging gel insoles. outrageous comfort, all-day long. >> let me finish tonight with this dramatic shift in republican politics. three years ago, the party ran john mccain for president. next year, it looks like they may well run one of three candidates, michele bachmann, antii miettinen, or rick perry. i listened to rick perry and i wonder what we're talking about and where we are going as a country. he refuses to accept the role for example that fossil fuels play in climate change. he wants to ditch the voting rights act. he questions the constitutional basis of civil rights act. he speaks of secession. his defenders say it's a harmless rhetorical device. he pr

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the amazing thing is there are elite leaders like wes moore who is a rhodes scholar among other things. there are also corporals and sergeants, noncommissioned officers coming back and doing amazing things. i tell a story in this piece about these two guys who were blown up together in a humvee in iraq, one of them lost his legs, the other had a traumatic brain injury. when they came back, they started building a house for one of them and they found that therapeutic, so now they are building houses for other veterans in north carolina. the organization's called purple heart homes. >> it's amazing to hear these stories and to get the word out about our extraordinary veterans who are being asked to do more than ever before in the battlefield. joe, wes, welcome and good to see you. thank you. >>> we'll turn again to presidential politics and texas governor rick perry, who is campaigning in new hampshire today after several days of blasting the president, it was his turn to answer a question on evolution that may dominate the perry chatter today. take a listen. >> it's a theory that is out

wes moore. >> i learned today the month of july we lost 32 servicemen to suicide. one of the largest months so far in all the wars. >> a huge problem not talk about enough. >> that's right. pat? >> rick perry's looking for mitt, give him my love, mike. >> blow him a kiss. >> nicolle wallace? >> that rob gibbs is in desperate need of new attack lines. >> how great was that? nicolle going at it. like the summer of '08. mark? >> two quick things, mike barnicle can pay his electric bill on his phone. >> a little late to the game but can you do it. boom. >> as we were learning the euro zone was failing apart, mike is -- paying his bills. >> the internet. >> what can we tell you? at least pretend that you care. i learned from nicolle wallace, her words, not mine, rick perry looks good in a pair of jeans. that's all i know. thanks everybody. see you back here tomorrow. stick around right now for "the daily rundown" with chuck todd live today in iowa. >>> rick perry unplugged. the newest 2012 candidate

joining me to talk about this, the ja joe klein and wes moore. welcome to you both. to you wes for a firsthand, a subject of this piece. you are part of this story. tell us, if you can, what is it that your generation, coming back from the front, in terms of the duties you've had over there, in terms ever trying to bring a country together politically, how that trains you to help back here at home? >> i was honored to be one of the people asked to represent this group of 23 million iraq-afghanistan vets coming back with extraordinary skills. entrepreneurial, fearless, able to look at worst-case scenarios before they look at best case scenarios. the fact as we're looking at the transics back home, there's not a scenario these non-commissioned and officerless seib see back home that will intimidate them or make them flinch. x-ray extraordinarily brave and courageous people now serving as they come back home. >> how is this warfront, both iraq and afghanistan, different in terms of training people for careers back home? >> chris, you know, i've been going over there for

army captain and combat veteran wes moore. thanks for being with us. >> my pleasure. >> we've been talking about this today. both fronts egypt and syria. this extraordinary display on state television. people stunned in egypt. obviously the ejet stream wants to show the former leader being humiliated this way and being held accountable for his alleged crimes? >> absolutely. this really is stunning to see the cage and to see hosni mubarak in a bed literally inside the cage going through his trial process is just remarkable. i think the egyptians feel it's an important moment to show the rest of the world, but primarily to show egyptians that justice is going to be served and quite honestly particularly for the fact that so much of this trial has been stalled with hoel issues they want to show this process is happening and show the egyptian people that the justice that they seek is actually coming to fruition. >> as the process of trying to create some kind of democracy has evolved we've seen that the military, you understand th

. >> david we have wes moore with us. >> the legacy of the obama doctrine, we believe in liberties, but we are not going to do it alone. david you bring up a good point. i wanted to ask you a question, he's got middle eastern history to look at and also his own familial legacy, if you look what happened in 1982. his father had a crackdown that squashed the insurgency. how much is that playing into his mind as he thinks of whether or not he should leave? >> wes, i saw hama as it was flattened by the tanks of his father. i took a bus ride through the city like a lot of correspondents of my generation. i saw the level of violence. it's clear he isn't prepared to punish the rebel opposition to the degree his father did and probably couldn't get away with it. we are in a different era now. lacking the tools of intimidation, what does he do? we have seen he's not prepared or able to use enough force to stop the protests. they keep going. i's been months now. i'm told by analysts that the syrian army is stretched to the breaking point. they have been putting out fires in so many cities in syri

>commissioner moore: we would like a uniform color, but he would still have distinguished letters? >> the design was for three tenants, yes. commissioner moore: this is not applied to the window pane itself? this is suspended in front or in rear of the window? >> the screen would be in front of the window, actually mounted on the building, and the tenants sign it would be mounted on the screen. nothing would be mounted on the window itself. >> it is the same design. it is just the colors are changed. it would cover the area, and that is the fact. it would cover the same area. there would still be signed on at. the proposal is rather than having the yellows and the oranges, it is a series of great tons. commissioner moore: i can live with that. it would be nice to have silkscreen on the window itself, but that is probably asking too much, huh? i think one of the problems has to do with parking on the left side of the street, as commissioner fong pointed out. i think it also has to do with it the signs being set too far back in the property. have you explored whether to move them clo

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>> joining us now, best selling author and combat veteran, wes moore. we'll start with a piece onafgh globe." afghanistan in the future that we could exit gracefully with our heads held high, even if we were holding our noses. we leave afghanistan to the afghans and wash our hands of the effort that alluded us and our allies for so long. no american would want to deprive our troops of a happily ever after event. whether we leave this year, next year or 2014, we won't be able to control what happens afterwards more than we can control the grenades that bring down chinook helicopters. the loss of the s.e.a.l.s is a tragedy. so many americans have no clue. it's not becoming a campaign issue. >> this is a huge, not just personal tragedy, this is a huge personnel tragedy as well. you know, when you look at s.e.a.l. team 6 or the delta force, they are nameless soldiers until tragedy happens. we have approximately 300 s.e.a.l. team 6 members. to lose 20 in one day, it's 70%. it's going to have significant implications. are they mostly developed in afghanistan?

we're joined by wes moore. wes, great to see you. first of all, let's talk about syria and what we now know the. the u.n. is taking up its condemnation of syria from last week. they're having a meeting this afternoon in advance of that the u.s. ambassador to the united nations susan rice spoke out again today. here's what she had to say. >> in the view of the united states he has lost his legitimacy to rule. and syria would be a better place without him. >> that is the same thing that jay carney has just said at the briefing but it is not that further step saying the united states, the president of the united states believes that assad should be removed. they are not taking that step yet. they may in the next couple of days. they've been reluctant to take that step, why? >> they've been reluctant to take the step because i think they understand the limitations of unilateral action for the united states. even as we increase looking at different sachs options that we have that we can put towards syria. the main criteria that we're look

we doubled down on that. >> let me ask wes moore. why's the united states fighting the taliban in afghanistan? why are we, the anti-taliban force in that country? how did we get this job? >> well, we got this job because we've seen ow the mission continue topped evolve with afghanistan. initially when we first had trooped in afghanistan we didn't have a real commitment. the message was exactly right. the president in many ways not only doubled but tripled down on the afghanistan operation. weren't of the largest challenges we had with the afghanistan operation one of the lead variables whether or not we had proceed successfully with this it relies on some type of afghanistan reconciliation with the government, which is difficult. just a few days ago you had the afghan high peace council who came out and said the taliban is willing to negotiate and willing to be part of this larger negotiation, come to the peace table, and then just yesterday a spokesperson for mullah omar says not so fast. not willing to negotiate with anybody. >> th

we doubled down on that. >> let me ask wes moore. why's the united states fighting the taliban in afghanistan? why are we, the anti-taliban force in that country? how did we get this job? >> well, we got this job because we've seen ow the mission continue topped evolve with afghanistan. initially when we first had trooped in afghanistan we didn't have a real commitment. the message was exactly right. the president in many ways not only doubled but tripled down on the afghanistan operation. weren't of the largest challenges we had with the afghanistan operation one of the lead variables whether or not we had proceed successfully with this it relies on some type of afghanistan reckon sail silliation with the government which is difficult. just a few days ago you had the afghan high peace council who came out and said the taliban is willing to negotiate and willing to be part of this larger negotiation, come to the peace table, and then just yesterday a spokesperson for mullah omar says not so fast. not willing to negotiate with anybody

commissioner moore: we might want to discuss that a little bit further. secretary avery: commissioners, i have a feeling that i am probably the only one who is here with the discussion of the creation of complicated cases standards, etc., and the commission had a discussion on what constituted the complicated case. they did not ever put that in their rules and basically it was on the size of the document that came through and the size of the project that was being proposed. and again, it was never ep caps lated in the -- it was never encapsulated in the rules and regulations and you don't have a definition. and if no one was here, it would be hearsay if i came up with the paper from the hearings and it is hearsay from me on what they believe their definition of complicated cases were. so i think it would be timely for you to have that discussion. president olague: great. perfect. we'll calendar it. >> but we're going to go ahead and adopt these. commissioner miguel: i would move we adopt with the changes we have discussed, which i think secretary has duly

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commissioner moore: can we have more background to the legislation which addresses of vacation homes? does that also include the purchase of homes as a second home in the city, which many people do? there's two ways of doing it. one is to convert a home, and existing home. another one is to buy one for the purpose of using it as a vacation home. and the two things raise a very important questions. >> this item is actually not an ordinance that would change any law. it is just a hearing request for supervisor avalos would like to discuss the issues. they specifically said vacation rentals in the housing rentals, maybe in response to recent article in the bay citizen that came out this week. but we can certainly consider the issue and discuss that with the supervisor as well. commissioner moore: i appreciate that. commissioner antonini: i would like to get an update on the suggested dialogue by supervisors winner and chu in regards to moderate income housing in connection with jobs. we can get a report on how that goes forward, and anything that might take the form of any legislative ch

. >> we could go down moor. >> it could go down more. >> a year from now, do you think we will? >> the time frame is 6 months to 24 months and the devination is one-three probability. >> what is the chance we regain triple a? >> there is five governments that regained triple a. your colleague mentioned a few of them. they regained over the nine-18 years. >> don chambers head of the sovereign committee over the s&p that made a momentous decision. thank you very much. wh

>> commissioner moore: i would like to remind ourselves that recently we had a reproportioning of units with three-bedroom units coming back saying the market was not going that way. in the end, i am saying i know anything, the developer will be tuned to what the market will require. and so i think many of these larger projects retain a certain degree of interpretation and flexibility within their entitlement to respond to the market. if 90% of people want three- bedrooms, he will not have -- build studio apartments. i will pass the question on to anybody but that would be my thought. we have had this discussion here recently. with respect to re-entitling buildings. >> i agree. the reality is we have tried to rent three-bedroom units and they are difficult. their rented by folks that are -- they are rented by it folks that are three roommates as opposed to families which does not serve the purpose. >> commissioner moore: the reason why pushed the button was a different reason. if architect baker could respond. we very recently i am projects which were more adjoining rincon corridor were

we have complied. i guess that would extend this to the 15th. >> commissioner moore: if this is what they are describing, i would not see any reason to extend this period we are all leaving on the 11th, and any staff members after us, -- >> i do not understand. >> commissioners, if that is all, we can move to public comment. members of the public -- this is within the subject matter and the jurisdiction of the commission. and i have no speaker cards. >> i went through the files of next week's hearing, and i was not certain about the rules. i want to read the current rules. this is due to the commission two weeks in advance of the hearing. i keep bringing this up. we have 120 unit projects, and this is not a complicated case because this is what you should have considered on the triangle. if you look at these rules, you are allowed one week. on a d.r. and a c.u. this is not a c.u. this is a major project if you have one here. like the project today, the others that have been cont roversial. the staff rd

we feel sold a prius so guilty soul or somebody came to us and say. cuore. get one of you for your for we can help you. get out. get out cause the cops no matter what he tells you you can find safety you can find safety you can and you will find safety a world say anything he wants to anything. to keep you under his thumb to keep you right where he wants you. so he can keep abusing here and it's only going to get worse so when you are going to get worse if got to make that step take that step of faith have faith in yourself you may not believe it's a mess but it's there it's there you'll find it and you'll find. a safety plan is the mechanism that is used to help an individual stay safe in their home their working environment to help them stay safe when they are traveling or with their children. it is pretty comprehensive and it involves evaluating where the high risk points are a lot of people don't consider. which rooms have ways that they could exit if they needed to which planes have items in there that could be used as weapons now you would think

stevie branch's mother pam hobbs remembers it like it was yesterday. >> we wasn't home probably five or ten minutes when michael moore probably came over and asked if stevie could go ride bikes with him. and i was telling him, not today, son. i'm getting ready for work. and i'm cooking and all that. and he and michael just kept begging and begging. please let me go. let me go. so like a lot of parents do, i gave in and i said, okay. >> do you remember the last thing stevie said to you? >> i love you, mama. and went off just as happy as he could be. >> steve branch, christopher byers and michael moore were all last seen right here on this street. and they were doing what 8-year-old boys would normally do, they were playing, having fun, and riding their bikes back in that direction toward where the woods used to be. but that was the last time they were seen alive. and no one is sure what happened next. they never came home. families and neighbors searched frantically through the night as pam hobbs feared the worst. >> you had to be just beside yourself. >> oh, i was. i was going hyster

joining us now, combat veteran, wes moore. >> good to see ya. >> great to see you, too. >> pat buchanan, i understand you had to evacuate this weekend. tell us about it. >> i went to mccabes and said i'm getting out early and i'm going to pray for y'all. they declared an emergency that afternoon and i was home. >> you were home. did the area get hammered down there? >> it got hit but joe, i will say this, this was not the killer hurricane andrew down in florida and katrina. it shouldn't be minimized, preparations were maybe excessive, but they were ready in case they had a killer turn. here in d.c., guys were looking at the water while guys were coming out of hurricane parties looking at reporters. >> you can't prepare for this. >> you can't. >> i was afraid we would have category 3, category 4 and category 5 storms on the gulf coast. that's one thing. i tell you what, i was afraid a category 2 would slam into the city, in new york, go across long island. that would have been catastrophic. there aren't millions of windows along the gulf coast. john heilemann, it could have been really b

do not extrapolate, but this is what we got. in the 10th district, republican incumbent sheila harsdorf, shelly moore. we don't have results to report there, but we'll keep you posted. generally the way these things happen is you get 1% and 2%, and they start coming in in larger increments, but we'll be watching over the course of the night. >>> in 2008, the presidential election in wisconsin was not at all close. president obama beat john mccain by 13 points. that was a bigger margin than obama got in nevada, minnesota, new hampshire, almost the margin by which he won the great state of new jersey. even though wisconsin looks a little purple, frankly in 2008, wisconsin was deep blue. it was a blow out in the '08 presidential race in wisconsin of the still though on that night in that same election in which barack obama made john mccain irrelevant, on that same night, these six republican state senators also won their races, republicans. it's because they represent republican districts, at least five of the six do. state senate