herman cain is wrong. brainwash is an opinion. it's an opinion. >> here is what the data backs up. that african-americans vote for democrats overwhelming low because of policies, because of the union impact on helping blacks into the middle class, because of the education programs -- >> bill: spite ams, correct? >> because of a commitment to sustaining and fighting for working people, a commitment to fight the war on poverty doesn't mean you have to -- >> bill: let me play devil's advocate. i think everybody understands black americans vote for the democrats because of entitlement spending. i think they all have that. but has entitlement spending really worked? if you looked at the trillions that have been spent since 1964, the poverty level in african-american precincts is down 2, 3%. that's all. unemployment rate under barak obama, 17% for black americans. these policies really haven't worked. so what i think mr. cain is saying is that if you would go to the conservative view of self-reliance, and depend

herman cain says blacks have been vor loyal. he's saying we have a history of loyalty and what he's trying to get voters to do is take a look at him. >> dr. peterson, your thoughts on his comment. do you agree with joe watkins? >> no. this is absolutely insane on the part of herman cain. basically to say that black folk are brainwashed is a direct commentary on the intellectual capacity. it's so sweeping and stereotypical, it's repulsive. listen, you and congresswoman waters are absolutely right. black folk vote based upon the issues. >> joe, what about that? >> herman cain would say, take a look at my background -- >> i want you to answer what dr. peterson said. >> he's saying, look at my 9-9-9 tax policy. i'm not an unfair or sophisticated person. don't just -- you can't broadbrush any party. >> but, joe, hold on a second. we did see the ryan plan pass in the house. are you saying that african-americans are opposed to that because they didn't have the right information because they were brainwashed by democrats? the fact is th

herman cain is being tested. i think christie would face the same fate as perry where, you know, he looks good on paper, then you start digging into it and you might find flaws that would make people flee. >> howard, speaking of authenticity in republican politics, mr. donald trump. the candidates have been making the pilgrimage to new york to kiss the ring or whatever it is that trump offers them to kiss in his office. it turns out in the fox news poll, there's some very useful information that they should check before they, you know, make those plane reservations to new york. the fox news poll says the trump endorsement -- of the trump endorsement, 6% say they would be more likely to vote for a trump endorsed candidate. and 31% say that would make them less likely to vote for that t of the electorate if you go up there and beg donald for his attention. >> well, a couple things, lawrence. first of all, that 6% are all -- have all been on "the apprentice," so that's number one. number two, donald trump sort of st

cain has benefited so directly. romney has run the slow and steady tortoise campaign. he's been hovering in the low 20%, he's been raising more money than the rest of the candidates and trying to avoid the scrutiny of a front runner. herman cain and rick perry, rick perry has experienced the bright lights and how it can singe one.

herman cain is being tested. i think christie would face the same fate as perry where, you know, he looks good on paper, then you start digging into it and you might find flaws that would make people flee. >> howard, speaking of authenticity in republican politics, mr. donald trump. the candidates have been making the pilgrimage to new york to kiss the ring or whatever it is that trump offers them to kiss in his office. it turns out in the fox news poll, there's some very useful information that they should check before they, you know, make those plane reservations to new york. the fox news poll says the trump endorsement -- of the trump endorsement, 6% say they would be more likely to vote for a trump endorsed candidate. and 31% say that would make them less likely to vote for that candidate. so, it basically costs you 25% of the electorate if you go up there and beg donald for his attention. >> well, a couple things, lawrence. first of all, that 6% are all -- have all been on "the apprentice," so that's number

cain. (cheers) >> it wasn't even close. i mean, double the lead. let's bring in our political panelist, democratic strategist, the former advisor for president george w. bush. and a co-founder and chairman of american town.com, ted burger. nice to see all of you. >> nice to be here. >> clayton: herman cain wins the florida straw poll and rick perry is in deep trouble, is that how he we see this. >> i don't know if rick perry is in trouble. had a horrible couple of days. the big winner is mitt romney, didn't compete and lost to rick perry, but perry competed hard for the poll and to defeat mitt romney by one percentage point, if i were mitt romney i would do the happy dance to the extent that mitt romney could do the happy dance these days. >> the spin from the perry camp, look, this is a big loss for mitt romney, 1 percentage point, a loss for mitt romney campaigning for five years, we only got in this thing five weeks ago. your response to that? >> i'm not a political strategist, as an ame

and next to herman cain -- >> mr. cain, your only experience is serving as ceo of godfather pizza. how does running a pizza chain equate to running a country? >> if you order it, pizza will come. pizza will come, pizza will most definitely come, and if you vote for me, america, i promise you that i will deliver. >> joining me now, a distinguished graduate of "saturday night live," the writer and director of "the big uneasy," a documentary about the flooding and aftermath of hurricane ka katrina and host of the radio show "the show." harry shearer. it doesn't get weirder than this weekend in politics. herman cain? there have been two sets of votes cast in straw polls. michele bachmann wins the first one. herman cain the second one. where are we going? >> i want to be the first person to say on national television that herman cain's -- i have the explanation for herman cain's tax plan. >> 9-9-9. i've been trying to follow that. >> it's a carefully coded message from satan. >> okay. >> flip it, baby. >> oh. >> see what i'm saying? apropos of your previous guest. >> we should have had

cain. another perspective on the gop field as a whole. from the op-ed pages of "the washington post." eugene robinson start by talking about mr. cain. with those thoughts in mind, you can add yours as well as far as the current crop of the gop presidential field. if you want to call us -- again, republicans only -- yes, you got also e-mail us and contact us by twitter. croft and, maryland. we will speak to ronald first. caller: i am very disappointed in the republican party. i have been voting republican -- i have voted for some democrats -- for quite a period of time. the tea party people who really hate the government, they hate people. at a time when the government really should be helping people, funding jobs and funding construction and funding america, sending $12 billion a month over to iraq and iran -- in afghanistan, while our country is crumbling. host: would you look at the current field, who is most in line with your philosophy? caller: the republican field? i don't like any of

is it reasonable that herman cain will be any difference? >> i think the third behind perry and romney is a terribly important battle because i think it is very possible one of the two front-runner sz going to stumble. therefore whoever is in third will move p up to second, it could be cain, could be santorum. it's important to keep your eye on. when you watch cain in the debates, what gets through is he comes through as so sensible, so direct spoken, so strong. and the reforms that he proposes are structural. no tinkering in the margins. he really wants to change washington and i think that from a ceo has a lot of appeal to republican primary voters. >> cornell, cain also told wolf he could take a third of african-american votes, basing that on anecdotal evidence. is there any polling that could help make that case? >> first of all, do you think you're going to invite me on the show and i'm not going to talk about the ridiculousnesses of that statement? two things. one is a great way to get people on your side and win voters is to attack th

cain in or land -- in orlando this peek. i have interviews with newt gingrich, rick santorum and michelle bachmann. hear from them where their campaigns stan now and where they go. all coming over the next two hours. >> breaking news, two american hikers finally free from an iranian prison. i'm shannon bream. we begin with that breaking news after two years in an iranian prison american hikers josh fattal and shane bauer are back home. jenna has been following the story closely with family and friends over the last couple of years. she is live in new york with the latest on their arrival. excellent news. >> reporter: very good news today. josh and shane are here in new york city. their flight landed about an hour ago. at this time they are heading for an undisclosed location in manhattan where we expect to hear from them later this afternoon. there are so many questions for these young men. we don't know many of the details of their 780 plus days behind bars. here's what we do know. shane and josh have been charged and convi

and next to herman cain -- >> mr. cain, your only experience is serving as ceo of godfather pizza. how does running a pizza chain equate to running a country? >> if you order it, pizza will come. pizza will come, pizza will most definitely come, and if you vote for me, america, i promise you that i will deliver. >> joining me now, a distinguished graduate of "saturday night live," the writer and director of "the big uneasy," a documentary about the flooding and aftermath of hurricane katrina and host of the radio show "the show." harry shearer. myw.w.w.w.w.w.w. >> thank you very much. >> it doesn't get weirder than this weekend in politics. herman cain? there have been two sets of votes cast in straw polls. michele bachmann wins the first one. herman cain the second one. where are we going? >> i want to be the first person to say on national television that herman cain's -- i have the explanation for herman cain's tax plan. >> 9-9-9. i've been trying to follow that. >> it's a carefully coded message from satan. >> okay. >> flip it, baby. >> oh. >> see what i'm saying? apropos of yo

and next to herman cain -- >> mr. cain, your only experience is serving as ceo of godfather pizza. how does running a pizza chain equate to running a country? >> if you order it, pizza will come. pizza will come, pizza will most definitely come, and if you vote for me, america, i promise you that i will deliver. >> joining me now, a distinguished graduate of "saturday night live," the writer and director of "the big uneasy," a documentary about the flooding and aftermath of hurricane karicareeka katrina af the radio show "the show." harry shearer. it doesn't get weirder than this weekend in politics. herman cain? there have been two sets of votes cast in straw polls. michele bachmann wins the first one. herman cain the second one. where are we going? >> i want to be the first person to say on national television that herman cain's -- i have the explanation for herman cain's tax plan. >> 9-9-9. i've been trying to follow that. >> it's a carefully coded message from satan. >> okay. >> flip it, baby. >> oh. >> see what i'm saying? apropos of your previous guest. >> we should have had

is is it reasonable that herman cain will be any difference? >> i think the third behind perry and romney is a terribly important battle because i think it is very possible one of the two front-runner sz going to stumble. therefore whoever is in third will move p up to second, it could be cain, could be santorum. it's important to keep your eye on. when you watch cain in the debates, what gets through is he comes through as so sensible, so direct spoken, so strong. and the reforms that he proposes are structural. no tinkering in the margins. he really wants to change washington and i think that from a ceo has a lot of appeal to republican primary voters. >> cornell, cain also told wolf he could take a third of african-american votes, basing that on anecdotal evidence. is there any polling that could help make that case? >> first of all, do you think you're going to invite me on the show and i'm not going to talk about the ridiculousnesses of that statement? two things. one is a great way to get people on your side and win voters is to attack th

cain can do that in a way nobody else can. i think if he does, he's going to strike a tremendously residue nant chord because obama is so playing this class warfare card. >> are you saying at this moment in time that you can't make an accurate prediction who's going to win this primary for the republicans? >> oh, absolutely i can't. absolutely. i mean, at each given moment i have dairch theory as to -- a different theory as to who is most likely to win. right now i have to say romney is, but oh, my god. we don't know if governor christie is coming in. if he's not, you can't say who is going to win. perry could come back because suddenly he's not the frontrunner and people will lay off him. he can kind of reenter in humility in the shadows and begin to move up. cain could do it. bachmann will get a lot of support that perry's losing. she lost her third place finish because perry took the votes away. now she can get them back. santorum is the national security candidate, and gingrich, everybody agrees he would be the best presid

drew on what cain's victory really means. >> his name is herman cain. he is running for president and he just won the florida gop straw poll in an upset. >> thank you. >> some people are spreading the nasty rumor that herman cain can't win. well, i tell you what, that might be what they think, but the american people have a different idea. >> cain, a 65-year-old businessman from georgia doubled favorite texas governor, rick perry 37% to 15%. mitt romney had 14% and michele bachmann came in last with 1 1/2%. while cain was winning florida, romney and perry were in michigan speaking to the gop faithful. >> in washington, you have people that don't understand america. the president and the people around him think that government is what makes us great, they're wrong. it's the people of america that made us great and keep us great. >> yup, there may be slicker candidates and smoother debaters, but i know what i believe in and i'm going to stand on that belief every day. i will guide this country with a deep, deep rutter. >> though many political experts hav

herman cain. the victory speech, cain declared "as a black republican, he has what it takes to beat obama." >> i believe, quite frankly, that my campaign, i will garner a minimum of a third of a black vote in this country and possibly more. i think they're over this first african american president thing. i think that is behind them. >> jon: i'm sure that you do. (laughter) joining us is our senior black correspondent larry wilmore. (cheers and applause) mary, tell me. is herman cain right? are black voters over obama? >> well, let me put it this way, jon, it was sweet to elect the first black president but it will be even sweeter to see the first black president kicked out of office by the second black president! (laughter) and if it happened he'd just kick rick perry's awecation ass up and down the state of florida proving sometimes politics is like a porn movie. (laughter) >> how's that? >> you know, pizza guy shows up out of nowhere and (bleep)s you. (laughter and applause) this is going to be

, though, look, i like herman cain. i like his spirit. he presents himself very well when he came on the factor he had no idea about foreign affairs. >> like the guy in there now does. >> bill: aren't we supposed to improve upon that. >> here is what i am saying, the thing i like about barack obama to this point he has completely recreated the bush cheney things increased drone stakes in the air. if herman case number says i will do what this guy does and up zone strikes and if they ever call me in the middle of the night and say we have a nut we know where he is at but we have got to fly across the border and croak him. i bet you herman cain would say it too. common sense. >> bill: the next president of the united states has got to be as i say in killing lincoln an excellent leader. a leader of superlative quality. >> not might i think he is. >> bill: the deficit of mr. cain he doesn't have experience. putin and guys in china waiting to hammer you. you need somebody in there with the experience and frame of reference t

cain, congratulations to you! you must be feeling pretty good today. >> thanks meggish, i'm feeling pretty good but let me tell you why i'm feeling pretty good in addition to the win, it says the voice of the people is still more powerful than the voice of the media, with all due respect. and secondly, it says that message is more important than money. the other two competitors, they spent a considerable amount of money to try and influence the outcome of this florida straw poll. i rented a bus and went all over the state this week, as well as previously, taking my message of common sense solutions, taking my message of 999, and it resonated, and i think that that's what the poll, the straw poll reflects more than anything else. megyn: of course, some people are saying that it reflects a protest vote, that they were disappointed in how governor perry in particular performed at the debate and it was a vote against him, not so much a vote for you. how do you respond to that, sir? >> well, some people are still in de

a huge triumph for herman cain. the sense that republicans in florida are very upset with rick perry, particularly on illegal immigration, but perhaps because there is a high percentage of seniors which perhaps is his views on social security. these are issues rick perry will get the signal on. he and mitt romney are in michigan now. but the noise from florida is loud. herman cain's common sense conservativism with his 9-9-9 jobs and economic plan has gotten the attention of the sunshine state. it will echo around the country and particularly for rick perry. he'll have changing of policies or at least adjustments to make in the wake of this defeat. to come in with less than half of herman cain's support is a serious blow. he and mitt romney have a serious race ahead. fundraising after straw polls is key after long-term success and whether or not herman cain has staying power. now herman cain is at the top of the straw poll in florida and that means he's going to be on the top of the minds and mouths of republicans a

look at herman cain out front 37%. meanwhile rick perry came in second, and then mitt romney there coming in third. michele bachmann at the bottom of this list. herman cain said the win shows that he should not, and will not, be ignored. his keys to his campaign are his tax policy and also energy. >> let me tell you what the cain doctrine is going to be. america is going to be its own best customer. drill here, dig here, explore here first! we have the resources! >> meanwhile, michigan, another battleground state, and the battle is playing out this weekend. governors perry and romney were there at a republican party event. candy crowley will have straw poll results that are due a little later this hour. we'll chat with her about that. meanwhile, listen to mitt romney talk about what he'll do on day one as president. >> the burden of regulation is even larger than the burden of our taxation. if i'm president the first thing i'm going to do on day one is issue an executive order saying all the regulations put in place by

>> sean: "herman cain?" they don't know who herman cain is at this point? >> so, sean hannity what we have is this, according to abc the headline is herman cain wins therefore nobody wins. and the headline from cbs says, hermanó3p$ó eape0ztkbr )1 pepá9 xod6t>p>bnpy ñ & nqq> sean: one of the narratives that i picked up on obama 2007 very early, he was too radical too rigid to liberal, wasn't ñ?ñ? prepared to be president. liberals are coming around to my point of view. they'reçt&i>;w1:b/2?v 7zc> if he doesn't feel ready to run, i hope he doesn't because in the end, you know, he has tremendous misgivings. maybe he's right. i mean obama

cain 37%, perry 15%. he didn't really run that hard there, didn't really put his name in, romney 14%, santorum 11, paul 10, gingrich 8, 2% for huntsman, 1% for bachmann. thank you very much, peter. the two runnersup in the florida straw poll have their sights set on another state right now. you're looking at live pictures. take a look now from mackinaw island in michigan where former massachusetts governor mitt romney will speak at any minute at a dinner for the mackinaw republican leadership conference. he's a native of the state and his father served as governor there in the 1960s, but texas governor rick perry isn't ready to cede the state to his rival. he spoke earlier in the day during a lunch at the same republican conference. here's what he had to say. >> i don't dislike government. i just want government to work. and work for us. i'd like for the federal government to do some of the things that it's actually supposed to do in the constitution. like defend our borders. >> let's gets to washington n

herman cain 37% wins the straw poll in florida. thank you. >> gregg: big day for herman cain. >> heather: yes. >> gregg: congratulations. that does it for us. rick folbaum and arthel neville take over at the top of the hour. >> heather: and we'll be here tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern. we hope you are, too. bye. >> gregg: have a great weekend.

dimension with herman cain winning a florida straw poll. the question for cain, a tea party favorite and former pizza executive, is whether he can capitalize on that. >> message is more important than money. i don't have a war chest of a perry or romney, they underplay the fact my message is resonating. my message of solutions, not just talking about the problem. >> reporter: his win could shake up a race so far focused on two front runner, texas governor perry and former massachusetts governor romney. >> i think people are hungry in this country, not necessarily for all republican answers or all democratic answers, they're hungry for real, authentic people to lead this country. >> reporter: when asked about the field of gop candidates, the chairwoman of the democratic party had this opinion. >> it doesn't much matter which one of the republicans get nominated, because they're all the same. this will be a very stark contrast. they are all embracing and bear hugging the tea party. moving to the right. they can't move to the right far enough.

what does this upset mean for herman caine? what does it mean for rick perry the perceived front runner? >> herman caine gives a great speech and i think this is a case of where he went out and talked to the voters and inspired them and won and upset perry. i think for rick perry this is not good news. this is someone who everyone believed to be the republican front-runner for the nomination. he had a bad debate by just about every measure and fought really hard to win this straw poll and came in an embarrassing second place. the third thing i'd mention is michele bauchmann was last in the straw poll, and she was, remember, first in the iowa straw poll, and that was something that a lot of people thought would really propel her candidacy, but now you have to start wondering whether she's actually a viable candidate in this race. >> mitchell: there are some names out there that a lot of folks thought were going to get in the race, giuliani, palin, governor chris christie in new jersey. what do you think? with this upset today, w

cain got 37% of the vote in the poll. perry got only 15%. >>> overseas, there's been another attack on the u.s. embassy in afghanistan in an annex used by the cia. officials say security personnel killed the gunman. one or two other people suffered minor wounds. two weeks ago, taliban militants staged a 20-hour attack on the embassy. there's no word yet on whether militants were behind yesterday's attack or whether it was just the work of a disgruntled employee. >>> college republicans plan to cook up some controversy tomorrow with a bake sale at university of california at berkeley. they say they will sell baked goods at differing prices determined by, get this, race. prices will range from $2 for white men to $1 for latino men to 75 cents for black men and 25 cents for native americans. all women will get a 25-cent discount. they say it's a protest of pending legislation that would allow california universitys to look at race in admissions. we'll have more on that later. >>> one of two fullerton, california, police offi

>> sean: "herman cain?" they don't know who herman cain is at this point? >> so, sean hannity what we have is this, according to abc the wins therefore nobody wins. and the headline from cbs says, hermanó3p$ó eape0ztkbr )1 pepá9 xod6t>p>bnpy ñ & nqq> sean: one of the narratives that i picked up on obama 2007 very early, he was too radical too rigid to liberal, prepared to be president. liberals are coming around to my point of view. they'reçt&i>;w1:b/2?v 7zc> if he doesn't feel ready to run, i hope he doesn't because in the end, you know, he has tremendous misgivings. maybe he's right. i mean obama he wasn't ready. maybe christie isn't

herman cain, i saw herman cain, he has an upbeat. herman cain has a bold reform message. it may not be worked out as much as it would be. scrap the tax code. he's only one talking on a scale that is appropriate at the time. >> chris: when we come back, the president calls for more jobs and less debt. and the congress remains grid locked on just about everything. [ female announcer the road is not exactly a place of intelligence. ♪ across the nation over 100,000 miles of highways and bridges are in disrepair. add to that, countless distractions every mile... ♪ ...millions of ill-equipped vehicles... ♪ ...half a million cubic yards of debris... and the 38 million drivers who couldn't pass the driver's exam today. [ horn blares even if road signs actually did make sense. this is why we engineered a car that analyzes real time information, reads your handwriting and makes 2000 decisions every second. ♪ the new audi a6 is here. the road is now an intelligent place. ♪ >> chris: check out fox news sunday.comfor the behind the scenes features and a monday week preview i

a big shock here, cain actually helped by the florida straw poll. so i guess for people right now, it did mean something, cain up 11 at 17%, paul 6%. bauchman, i've got to say, about as fast of a drop as i've seen since the iowa straw poll, and rick santorum at 3%. pat buchanan, let's talk headlines first. rick perry, the horrible week is starting to show up in polls here, 19%. >> well, he's in real trouble, joe. i think perry's got to go out

herman cain is now in contention. he didn't just win that straw vote down there in florida last week. look at him! he's at 17. he's within striking distance. john, you covered this. is he actually a candidate now who could win this nomination? >> no. >> what's it mean to be up that high? >> it means there's been a collapse in support for rick perry, that he's given some good debate performances, people like his specificity. >> what's stopping him? >> i don't think he's a serious or credible candidate. and he's very much like a lot of other republicans. michele bachmann was up at 17, and now she's at 3% or zero. below jon huntsman. donald trump was at the top for a while. we've had a succession of fad candidates, because there's a fundamental lack of satisfaction with mitt romney. you point out, it's correct, he may win the republican nomination, but he's been at that 23% for a long time. he's not been able to rally the grassroots and there's still a big part of the establishment that's not that comfortable with him, s

what you heard from herman cain is one key point. which is obamacare intends to put someone between you and your physician. it must be repealed if i'm president of the united states on my first day in office, i will issue an executive order, which directs the secretary of health and human services to provide a waiver from obamacare to all 50 states that law is bad, unconstitutional, it shall not stand. >> chris: governor perry, 30 seconds to spoken. >> i think americans don't know which mitt romney they are dealing with. mitt romney against the second amendment before he was for the second amendment? before he was before the social programs from the standpoint of he was for standing up for roe vs. wade before he was against roe vs. wade. he was for race to the top. he's for obamacare and now he's against it. i mean, we will wait until tomorrow and see which mitt romney we are really talking tonight. >> chris: governor romney? >> the same term again, nice try. governor, i wrote a book two years ago and i laid out in that book what my