irwin or deborah bradley burned clothing? what do you make of this one? >> i would like to know whether the clothing has been identified in some way as belonging to this child. i would tend to agree with what mr. jackson has said either this person even with the baby is the objector or maybe someone for some reason in collaboration with the mother. but it should not be discounted. what i would point out from perspective as a forensic pathologist is that you cannot get rid of a human body readily. it is my understanding that the mother does not drive. there is no evidence of blood. there is no evidence that this tized baby that was trauma and so on. it is not to easily accomplished. this to me is a very important point. i don't know whether the mother's story has been invalidated, the failure on the polygraph test, the change as to whether she was awake at a tern time drinking and under the influence at another time and so on. i just -- it i'm puzzled by how you get rid of a body completely so that nobody finds it in that area

. >> reporter: deborah bradley's shifting timeline has riled police suspicion. >> police think show as something to do with it. >> reporter: she said she was afraid to look outside because of what she might find. the family point to key witnesses who saw a suspicious man that night carrying a video. so surveillance video shows a man dressed in white leaving a wooded area at 2:30 in the morning of baby lisa's disappearance. it's where police are looking into a suspicious dumpster fire. every day, deborah bradley admitting she was drinking the night her daughter disappeared. >> thanks a lot. >>> now about another missing child. a 5-year-old girl was remembered over the weekend. jesse shockly went missing five days ago. police have no suspects. there's an $11,000 reward for information in her disappearance. >>> a memorial service will be held this saturday for jane and william mcquain, mother and son who were killed recently and whose bodies were found over the past couple of weeks. they will be remembered saturday afternoon at cedar brook church. in lieu of flowers, the family is ask tha

this week, shocking inconsistencies in deborah bradley's story. this week the heat is on. investigators skeptical of jeremy and deborah's story descend on their home, once again, this time for 17 hours. yard dug up and raked. carpets removed and walls x-rayed. why the pressure you? during interviews last sunday, deborah's story changed. two weeks ago, deborah told me she put lisa to bed at some point that evening, checked on her around 10:30 and the 10 month old was is asleep in her crib. this week she says she put her down at 6:40 p.m. because lisa was being fussy and at 10:30 p.m. >> when you went in at 10:30 after the neighbor left, what did you do? >> probably went right to my room. she has no recollection of checking on lisa. as far as that window, jeremy says he found pushed in as if someone broke in. in my interview they say they don't think an intruder could have come through there. >> could somebody have fit through the frame where it was popped? >> no. >> you said it was popped. >> nothing makes sense. >> judge jeanine: could someone have fit through that? >> if

focusing their attention on baby lisa's parents, deborah bradley and jeremy irwin, seen here trembling with grief at a recent vigil for baby lisa. a family attorney this morning on "good morning america" skewered kansas city police for their treatment of his clients. >> the mother, who is missing their baby, sitting on the floor, trembling as the father calls 911, within an hour of that, the police are interrogating her and ape accuse her of murder. they've done everything they've been asked to do. they consented to every search they've been asked to. >> reporter: but running short of viable leads and patience, the police counter that deborah bradley and jeremy irwin have not cooperating. the couple has refused to be interviewed separately by police since october 8th, nearly three weeks ago. authorities take it a step farther, saying bradley and irwin likely have the answers that could lead police to baby lisa, answers that any parent should know about their child, about their whereabouts, bedtime, schedule. but family attorneys have told abc news exclusively that they will allow polic

throughout this ordeal, jeremy irwin and deborah bradley have been cooperating fully with the kansas city police department, sitting for hours of interviews. but tonight, police have announced that that is over. >> they've been cooperative up to this point but this evening they decided to stop. >> reporter: does that make you think, does that make the department think they had something to do with lisa's disappearance? >> everything's on the table. just like i've been saying for three days now. knock's changed. >> reporter: but if they go from cooperating to not, i would imagine that's got to raise obvious questions. >> it's a fair conclusion for you to draw. i can't say that matter of factually for the detectives, though. >> reporter: but the family rejects what the police are saying. just hours ago, the sister of the baby's father, holding a news conference of her own. >> we saw the press conference at 7:00 and want the public to know that we have never stopped cooperating with the police. the main goal has always been to find lisa and bring her home. >> reporter: this confusing si

bradley because deborah bradley has said as much, saying that police told her point-blank, we believe you did something to your child after she miserably failed -- her words, not mine -- that polygraph test. you can see the reporter there for our fox affiliate in kansas city. they are now going wall to wall with this because of this new tip that came in on the well beneath the vacant house in the neighborhood where the irwin family lives, and we are now just waiting to find out when the well is secure, when they go back inside that thing, megyn. we'll keep you posted all along. megyn: and i just want to go over then what we have learned in the past couple of days about the police leads on this case. i want to point out to the viewers on friday we closed the show with the police searching a landfill. nothing came of that. so the fact that they are searching does not necessarily mean they will find something. that, however, i believe, was not on the basis of a tip. this we are now learning, according to the police captain, captain young, this is that they have been tipped off to search

well, the only person they had to clear was deborah bradley. she takes a polygraph. when she takes a polygraph and she fails miserably means she failed all the relevant questions. they would have been called incompetent if they didn't confront her on her descent i answers. when they did that, now we have joe tack by know which is using the confrontational methods of the detectives as a reason not to cooperate. that is absolutely so far from the truth. it's deborah bradley that created that situation, and she needs to solve it by being one-on-one with the detectives. martha: mark fuhrman, thank you so much for being here today. >> thank you, martha. martha: all right. well, the story of the day today when it comes to politics, folks -- or, no, to this story that we're working on right now. what happened when a service member surprised his kids at their football game? they thought their dad was in iraq. we're going to show you this incredible moment. these never, ever get old, do they? >>> and president obama saying that the nation cannot wait for republicans to take t

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>> the key issue here, aside from the drinking, is the timing on when deborah bradley last saw little lisa. remember, she first told cops she checked on her at 10:30 p.m now she says that she did check on her two older boys that night because they were still awake. but because of the drinking, she can't actually remember whether she went in to check on little lisa. listen. >> i'm assuming that i went and checked on her, too. but i don't know. >> you don't remember? >> no. >> so it's possible you did not check on her before you went to bed at 10:30? >> yeah, but there is no way anybody could have got in. >> so the last time you saw your daughter alive in your home was when you put her dawn at can 40? >> when i put her down. >> it's worth remembering as cops continue their search today, that the father of the baby said very little once again during this interview, except to reiterate that he believes deborah bradley had nothing to do with little lisa's disappearance, trace. >> jonathan, we learned the parents now have a high profile new york defense lawyer working for them? >> yeah. if

megyn: not only does deborah bradley admit she was drunk, she also hold "america live" she was taking prescription medication at the time. did you take any drugs? >> no. megyn: are you a drug user? >> no. megyn: are you on any drugs? >> no. i take anxiety medication, but it's not narcotic, no. megyn: even before this episode, this event? >> yeah. megyn: okay. and were you taking it that night? >> yeah, i take it every morning. megyn: and deborah is now changing her story about the critical night in question, about last seeing her daughter at 10:30 p.m. that evening. deborah now claims for the first time that, in fact, the last time she saw her child alive that night was four hours earlier than she has been telling police. megyn: when you went in at 10:30 after the neighbor left, what did you do? >> probably went right to my room. megyn: why do you say probably? >> because, um, sometimes i check on her. well, most of the time i check on her, and then the boys, their room is right next to each other, and i sneak in and make sure -- you know, the boys had been awake, and i had went in th

>> well, i think one of the most important things we learned from deborah bradley, the mother of lisa irwin, is that she fears she will be arrested by police for her daughter's disappearance. i asked her why. take a listen. >> well, i was the last one with her. and from judging on how the questioning went, that's kind of a fear that i have. and the main fear with that is, if they arrest me, people are going to stop looking for her. and then i will never see her again. and i will never know what happened. >> obviously an emotional time for deborah bradley and her partner, jeremy irwin, who is the father of lisa irwin. we know where he was that night. there is surveillance tape, we are told at starbucks where he was working overnight. his first overnight shift there as an electrician. it is her about wr abouts that people are questioning. but family members and everybody agree everybody should be looked at. >> in your discussion, you discussed drinking and her response might surprise some. >> yes, she acknowledge he she was drinking that night. we saw surveillance video of her a few hou

bradley and her husband, they've been staying away from the home. so they have now come specifically for this reason to find, simply to join with other members of the community, correct? >> that's right. they haven't been living or staying in this home for quite some time. they've been living with relatives about a six-minute drive from here, so they returned back just for this vigil, specifically tonight. this is a bigger one than normally they've been holding in front of this home, where family members and neighbors have been coming, but this is the first time we've actually seen the parents come for this type of vigil. >> okay. and that young woman, just to be clear, that young woman that was on camera standing next to the tall, sort of bald-headed gentleman, that's lisa -- i'm sorry, that's deborah bradly. has she changed her hair color? >> reporter: well, we haven't seen her in a few days, so, obviously, it's a very solemn, somber mood here. she is very petite, actually, next to her husband, and it does look like she does seem very tired and sa

joe tacopino represents deborah bradley and her husband. and deborah bradley is the suspect. the kansas city police represent the victim. that is, the baby, lisa irwin. so there's a conflict there. but you can't criticize the police for being selective with evidence taken, and you can't criticize them for taking too much time and being too careful in an investigation with too many people. that's just ridiculous. if you take two detectives and you spend 15 minutes, do you find that that evidence has a lot of value, or there was a lot of scrutiny involved in collecting it? sn well then they'd have that argument. so that's ridiculous. martha: let's go back to this video issue for a moment. you have three different people who claim they saw a man walking in the middle of the night, the same night that lisa disappeared, carrying a baby dressed in only a diaper, and there are separate witnesses that have somewhat the same story in this, then there's a dumpster that was not too far from the house and reports from deborah bradley's side of this whole thing, that she was shown burnt c

local tv stations that conducted interviews with deborah bradley and her h. neighbors are being questioned about reports of a homeless plan spotted in the neighborhood about two weeks ago. this is very strange case. lisa irwin, about 30 inches tall with blue eyes and blond hair. she has two front teeth. if you have any information on her whereabouts cac your local law enforcement office immediately or call the police in kansas city. the number on the screen is 816-474-tips. if we get more information, gregg. we'll pass it alongers we'll have more coming up on "happening now." rick, thanks very much. jenna. jenna: a 12-year-old went into cardiac arrest on her way to class a few weeks ago. we caught this all on camera. how quick-thinking teachers saved her life and why her parents want you to know about this amazing story. we're live at the school coming up. gregg: the occupy wall street protesters heading uptown here in new york city, taking their message to the front doors literally of some of the city's most powerful people. jenna: if the powerful people are

. >>> plus, the fbi pouring over this video showing deborah bradley just hours before her baby, lisa, vanished. judge jeanine pirro joins us from kansas city with her take on the tape and the latest in the case. >>> and expert after expert for the prosecution says that michael jackson's doctor acted with gross negligence, but is being a bad doctor enough to convict a man of involuntary manslaughter? that's on the docket in today's kelly's court. [ female announcer ] so you think your kids are getting enough vegetables? yeah, maybe not. v8 v-fusion juice gives them a full serving of vegetables plus a full serving of fruit. but it just tastes like fruit. v8. what's your number? megyn: new questions about the mother of missing baby lisa irwin. the now-11-month-old girl -- she would have had a birthday since she disappeared last monday -- has been missing for more than a week. her parents say she was last seen in her crib, and she vanished sometime overnight two mondays ago. authorities are looking at surveillance video that shows deborah bradley shopping at a grocery store the evening th

he says he and deborah bradley, baby lisa irwin's mother are still married because they simply can't afford to get a divorce. police say they have no suspects, they have made no new progress here but we are learning the new details about deborah bradley's personal family history. while baby lisa's parents, deborah bradley and jeremy irwin live together, she's still married to another man who we're now hearing from, for the first time. sean bradley who has a 5-year-old son with his estranged wife, deborah, and didn't want to go on nbc news tells "she's always been a good mom." he says "i'm still confused by what's going on. this is craziness to me." bradley an army reservist, interviewed by the fbi, says he hasn't spoken to deborah or seen their son in two years. "i'm concerned with him and want to make sure he's safe. i miss him and would love top him back." this weekend the irwin family invited nbc news inside their vacant home, even after investigators finished their exhaustive search experts say it is a sign the children were cared for and loved. >> this is important on the wall,

the night 11 month old lisa irwin disappeared, deborah bradley are originally set last saw lisa irwin when she put her to bed at 1030 pm now says it was much earlier closer to 6:30 p.m. discovered missing got home from work about 4:00 a.m. 25 national guardsmen have now joined law enforcement officers searching the area near the family, and not treating kids with attention deficit disorder and a young age new guidelines and it looked inside haiti tent city. special report. tonight's medical watch treating kids with adhd at younger age of recommendations call for four year olds to get medication to help with attention and hyperactivity issues american academy of pediatrics expanded guidelines to help kid's parents and first teachers better handle the deficit still doctors say for younger children behavior modification a better option. more than 5 million children united states have adhd for most children a combination of behavioral therapy and medication is ideal. treatment for high blood pressure may detect protect brain from ravages of alzheimer's disease and drugs seem to reduce dem

we're getting reports that the baby's mother, deborah bradley, who we have seen tearfully beg fog her daughter's safe return is in some ways preparing herself to be arrested, which is, you know, very odd. we're going to talk about that in a moment. this comes as the search for this little girl has led now to a receipt from a grocery store. eric burke of fox affiliate wdaf has this part of the story for us. let's watch: >> reporter: the investigation took place to a nearby grocery store, a receipt found during one of many searches led police to festival foods. a source with the store confirmed detectives took the receipt to the store and asked to see surveillance video. in that video, deborah bradley and an unidentified man were seen buying a box of wine, paper plates and napkins, it was recorded about 5:00 p.m. monday, october 3rd. about five hours before the time bradley told police she put lisa in her crib for the night. >> martha: all right, joined now by captain steve young of the kansas city police department who is very much on this case. good morning, good to have you here. >>

. >> reporter: so the new story coming from deborah bradley, the mother of the missing 10- month-old, is that she saw her baby last at 6:40 p.m. when she put her to bed on the night of october 4th. but she originally told police that she last checked on lisa at 10:30 p.m. and then there is the drinking. deborah bradley now admits she was so drunk she may have blacked out the night her daughter went missing. they sat down with fox news anchor megan kelly. >> and how drunk were you? >> i was drunk. >> were you slurring your words, were you stumbling? >> i don't think so, no. >> do you remember the period well? >> no. >> is it possible you had a blackout? >> it's a possibility. i mean, just like anybody else when you drink, you don't remember the things that happen. >> reporter: 10-month-old lisa irwin disappears october 4th. her parents reported her missing from her crib at 2:00 a.m. saying the child may have been kidnapped. now security video from a nearby store shows bradley buying a box of wine among other things earlier that night. she is seen leaving the store with a man the family

deborah bradley is shown shopping in kansas city. this is 5 1/2 hours before putting the little girl to sleep. she's buying baby food, some wipes, and a box of wine. she puts her infant daughter to bed at 10:30 that night and says that was the last time she saw her. ed lavandera is the one who helped us obtain some of that video. what more are you learning about that? >> reporter: well, it's interesting. it was one of the first glimpses we've had into the hours before. we've had a rough time line of what happened more than a week ago in this neighborhood in kansas city. we've been focused around that 10:30 at nighttime last monday when police say they were told by the parents that deborah bradley had put her baby lisa to sleep that night. this is 5 1/2 hours or so before, assuming that is correct, and it's six minutes long. you can see deborah bradley, and another man walk into this grocery store, about a mile or so away from this neighborhood here. and they walk away and everything looks very calm. they walk into an i'll and buy som

deborah bradley goes to the supermarket with her brother. seen here buying a box of wine, baby food and baby wipes. early evening, jeremy an electrician heads tout work. >> judge jeanine: this is the first time you worked an overnight? >> judge jeanine: the neighbor a good friend comes over with her little girl. >> the boys and maria -- lives in their bedroom with them and they have a tv and bunk beds and stuff and they were watching fairytale movies and everything was is -- everything was pretty normal. >> judge jeanine: the moms chat and drink wine on the porch. after her neighbors leave, around 10:30 p.m., deborah checks on labey lisa. she says she put jeremy's 8-year-old son to bed afalls asleep inside her own bed alongside her 6-year-old son and a stray kitten they found that day. >> was the front door locked or unlocked? >> i don't remember. >> judge jeanine: she says she leaves all three of the family's personal cell phones on the kitchen counter where she normally keeps them. our investigation reveals that at 2:38 a.m. someone makes

deborah? >> tell us more about deborah bradley, lisa's mom. she fear that is police are going to arrest her. why? >> reporter: well, according to her lawyer, he says -- he issued a statement saying the family is not terrified for themselves. they're terrified for the whereabouts of their daughter. so clearly a different side of the story there. of course, the family members and the parents of baby lisa have been very quiet in recent days. we haven't heard from them. but clearly because of the evidence of this hit from the cadaver dog, it certainly points investors to the direction of deborah bradley as well as all the other leads coming in this area. police are searching high and low and not leaving any stone unturned. >> sandra, you see the grief on the mom's face when she's talking about this. how is the family holding up because there are other children in the home as well. >> reporter: absolutely. they do have two other children. right now, they aren't even staying at the house behind me in their own home. they're staying are other family

now new information about what the mother deborah bradley was doing the night her daughter disappeared. drinking. surveillance video shows she bought boxed wine and baby supplies hours before she vanished. a lot were asking whether you were drinking a lot that night. whether that might explain something here. >> doesn't explain anything because i had nothing to do with anything. >> were you drinking a lot that night. >> i was directing. but it has nothing to do with my daughter's disappearance. >> reporter: she says she was with a close friend on the porch for much of the evening. >> i had a friend over outside. we sit outside a lot. i had a best friend but nobody was in the house. >> reporter: no question local authorities have their suspicions which led to sometimes a contentious relationship between the family and police and the cops said she failed a lie detector. >> i said how did you do.ailed failed what? what question did i fail? and he said you failed the one where you know where your daughter is at and i said, that's not possible. i don't know where she's at. and i just procee

in fact, it was on the recommendation of the police that jeremy irwin and his fiance deborah bradley first went public with their anguished pleas for their daughter's return. >> please. bring her home. our two other boys are waiting for her, please. >> reporter: but today, the baby's mother revealed that just hours after her daughter was reported missing, police subjected her to an 11-hour interrogation. did they accuse you directly? >> oh, yeah. >> reporter: what did they say? >> you killed her. you know where she's at. give everybody else closure, you know you did it. and i kept saying no, that's not possible, no. no. no, no. >> reporter: she says after hours of grilling, she finally volunteered to take a polygraph. what happened then? >> they said i failed. >> reporter: how do you respond to that? >> not possible. something's wrong. not possible. >> reporter: in a separate room, detectives were also questions the baby's father. what kind of things were they saying to you about your fiance? >> she did it and we, you know, you need to help us. get her back. >> reporter: and so that

now new information about what the mother deborah bradley was doing the night her daughter disappeared. drinking. surveillance video shows she bought boxed wine and baby supplies hours before she vanished. a lot were asking whether you were drinking a lot that night. whether that might explain something here. >> doesn't explain anything because i had nothing to do with anything. >> were you drinking a lot that night. >> i was directing. but it has nothing to do with my daughter's disappearance. >> reporter: she says she was with a close friend on the porch for much of the evening. >> i had a friend over outside. we sit outside a lot. i had a best friend but nobody was in the house. >> reporter: no question local authorities have their suspicions which led to sometimes a contentious relationship between the family and police and the cops said she failed a lie detector. >> i said how did you do. he said, you failed and i said, failed what? what question did i fail? and he said you failed the one where you know where your daughter is at and i said, that's not possible. i don't know where

police say deborah bradley and jeremy irwin have stopped talking with detectives, a move that could hamper the search for the missing 10-month-old. the family calls that police claim untrue. >> we've been cooperative from day one and we continue to assist the police with the investigation. the main goal has always been to find lisa and bring her home. >> the search for the baby lisa has been going on since tuesday when her parents first reported her missing. the police claim whoever took their daughter also stoeld this cell phones. >>> amanda knox is reportedly being flooded with hate mail and threats following her acquittal. the 24-year-old washington student and her family left italy immediately after an appeals court threw out her conviction. knox has not been seen since arriving back on tuesday night in public. her father says they've received calls threatening to hurt her, but would not go into any details. amanda is in hiding with her mother and other family members outside of seattle. >>> a fingerprint found on a bottle of propoefol has drawn attention in the michael jackson trial.

now deborah bradley says she put her child down dressed. no kidnapper goes into a house and undresses a child to carry it away. so if the police are actually taking this seriously the baby, one of those baby sightings with a man in a white shirt with a baby they might be looking at somebody taking away a dead baby so it doesn't mean that is a kidnapper. it may be somebody removing a body. so are the police looking at it? absolutely. but to get overly excited about this video at the gas station i think is kind of, you know, probably not that exciting. >> so family attorney cindy short spoke to cnn just a short while ago. had this to say about the investigation. here she is. >> this family has cooperated in every way they possibly could cooperate. i think we have calculated that over time she has actually spent approximately 40 hours talking with investigators. >> all right. that may be true but obviously there's been questions about the family's cooperation. let me just ask you this. the cadaver dog smelling the scent of a decaying body in t

deborah bradley admits she saw her daughter hours earlier than she first told police. and she admits to drinking heavily. maybe even blacking out the night that lisa disappeared. her admission shows she has nothing to hide. today marks two weeks since that little girl's disappearance. >>> a suburban detroit man is in trouble, after police say he used his 9-year-old daughter as his designated driver. surveillance video shows the little girl getting behind the wheel while her dad pumps gas. the dad was telling the store clerk that his daughter was driving. >>> no fines. that's the nfl's verdict for jim harbaugh of san francisco and jim schwartz of detroit. they told the league that they're postgame conduct will be toned down. as for "monday night football," the highlights from espn news. >> good morning. i'm dan bell with your espn news update. the new york jets, trying to break a three-game losing streak. they're at home, taking on the miami dolphins. there's brandon marshall. said earlier in the week he might be kicked out of this game. he has a big matchup against dar

now deborah bradley says she put her child down dressed. no kidnapper goes into a house and undresses a child to carry it away. so if the police are actually taking this seriously the baby, one of those baby sightings with a man in a white shirt with a baby they might be looking at somebody taking away a dead baby so it doesn't mean that is a kidnapper. it may be somebody removing a body. so are the police looking at it? absolutely. but to get overly excited about this video at the gas station i think is kind of, you know, probably not that exciting. >> so family attorney cindy short spoke to cnn just a short while ago. had this to say about the investigation. here she is. >> this family has cooperated in every way they possibly could cooperate. i think we have calculated that over time she has actually spent approximately 40 hours talking with investigators. >> all right. that may be true but obviously there's been questions about the family's cooperation. let me just ask you this. the cadaver dog smelling the scent of a decaying body in t

. >> reporter: after several desperate pleas last week, lisa's parents, jeremy irwin and deborah bradley did not speak publicly this weekend. last week, police said they'd stopped cooperating but this weekend, the parents met again with investigators. >> we're all at the same table right now and that's the best thing for the investigation, no doubt about it. >> reporter: lisa's parents reported her missing last week, after jeremy returned from working his first overnight shift as an electrician and on a night deborah says she can't remember locking the front door. friday on "today" matt asked them if they had any reason to suspect one another. >> jeremy, when you look at debbie, do you have any suspicions that there's anything she's not telling you relating to the disappearance of lisa? >> none whatsoever. >> any doubt in your mind that he hasn't told you something? >> no. he's a good father, and he's good to me, and he loves her, and everybody loves her. >> handing out flyers for baby lisa. >> reporter: hundreds of flyers were handed out to nascar fans at the kansas speedway. >> she was

joe tacopina was asked about the police accusing deborah bradley of being involved, and here's his answer. >> i'm not talking about this. the nature of the questions, the depth of the questions or how off the questions were asked, i'm talking about things that were said during interviews regarding a certain individual's opinion of guilt of one of these parents without any, any evidence to support that, just rank speculation. and that's not something, in my opinion, that needs to be done in the this case when you have two people who grieve the return of their child. >> reporter: police say they have not interviewed the family difference back on october 8th, still say they're not cooperating, and we're trying to get clarification on something deborah bradley said yesterday that police showed her burnt clothes and pings from a doppler talking about those cell phones. she hopes they don't have burnt clothes, we're talking to cops about that right now. megyn: indeed. and i have that discussion about the cell phone pings on tape with her in depth, and we're going to get into that in today's kel