. >>> next on "this week in defense news," a look at managing the defense department for >>> welcome to "this week in defense news." i'm vago muradian. britain is soon to unveil a new defense industrial policy. we talk to uk acquisition chief peter luff later in the show. but, first, the pentagon spends nearly $7 billion a year and has long been criticized as being inefficient and wasteful. last year the defense secretaryy was also ordered to serve as the pentagon's chief management officer. it also created the post of deputy chief management officer, a job filled by beth mcgrath who has 20 years of defense management experience. ms. mcgrath, thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks very much for having me. >> let's start out, you've been on the job for about a year, what have you accomplished and what do you hope to finish in the remainder of your term? >> i think that to your point about the congress establishing the role of chief management officer last year was very significant and really a highlight of some of the activities and statutory requirements they've levied on the def

across-the-board cuts to the defense department that would h happen if the super committee does not act are bad for the defense of the united states, and the things that the super committee might consider would be bad. i think you are going to see the state department make similar arguments or somef its allies. they have a long time interest to look after the defense industry. interestinglgly, the health-care industry. a lot of folks would rather see automatic cuts take place then this process work because they will get burned less by across- the-board cuts. there are so many crosscutting issues. i would say this. i think they will get something done. >> is there a sense of from the people on this committee that the gravity of what they need to get done -- the ratings agencies have been pretty clearhat there nes to be substantial changes or we could face further downgrades potentially. is that ear on everyone's minds for the economic play out of how this works if they do not do anything? >> most members have i think a belief that something needs to be done on the debt. i also think

defense department reports died octoberiller 13. was 23 years old. the defense department said his death was not combat-related. >>> friends and family will weekend to remember germantown woman and her son murdered. jane mcquain and 11-year-old son on october 1. her estranged husband is expected in both murders. be saturdaywill clarksburg. instead of flowers, a family is donations for the in montgomery aunty, used to establish sports scholarship fund. >>> fire officials investigating situation. several people became sick --terday at the william aquatics center on capitol hill. unusualplained about an odor. chemicala agent. children were treated at the scene. >>> the d.c. and federal governments are coming together to help veterans find jobs. 9:00 a.m. until 3:00 p.m. and in boys and girls club washington. mayor vincent gray and other willand federal officials be their desk before the jobs fair begins. obama is raising bucks for his reelection campaign on the west coast. actor will smith and basketball michael johnson were among two fund-raisers in lo

jeh serves as general counsel to the department of defense. that means he is chief legal officer for whole army of lawyers. more than ten. he is chief legal adviser to the secretary of defense. he served with distinction as federal prosecutor in the district of new york where he took on public corruption cases. after his stint in the southern district he moved to the law firm of paul rybkin and lots of other names were he tried high-stakes commercial corporate cases. in 1998 president bill clinton appointed him to be general counsel of the department of the air force reserve for two years later returning to the law firm. he was appointed by president-elect obama to be general counsel for the department of defense and has tackled a number of issues there and during the question and answer period some of you may want to ask him about those things. without further ado i turn the podium over to the hon. jeh johnson. [applause] >> thank you for that introduction. thank you for the invitation to speak to this distinguished organization. cully referr

department in the allocation of their you know several hundred billion dollars budget every year so long term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department using allusion that the united states and other western societies are markets and so it's based on free enterprise and some. that's i mean why shouldn't troops if you take a look at people who are coming it's based on the states or the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of sunday in a year and it uses that to control or high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through the system because the pentagon is publicly funded institution obviously you know half the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed or a lot of contractors and the people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want to feed at the trough anymore the british historian the people on

term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets is. based on free enterprise and so on that's on a very marginally true if you take a look at the core of the economy it's based on the state. the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through this system because the pentagon is a publicly funded institution obviously you know half of the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed a lot of contractors and the people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want to feed at the trough anymore the british historian e.p. thompson once said that it was misleading to say that the soviet union in the united states had military industrial comple

economy whereby industrial policy is determined by the defense department in the allocation of their you know several hundred billion dollar budget every year so long term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets. were based on free enterprise and some. that's only marginally true this you take a look at the poor. it's waste on the street to the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding in a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through this system because the pentagon is publicly funded institution obviously you know half of the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all of those bureaucracies feed or a lot of contractors and the people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want to feed at

term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets is. based on free enterprise and so on that's only marginally true if you take a look at the core of the economy it's based on the state. the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through this system because the pentagon is a publicly funded institution obviously you know half of the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed a lot of contractors and people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want to feed at the trough anymore the british historian e.p. thompson once said that it was misleading to say that the soviet union in the united states had military industrial complexes he sa

department in the allocation of their you know several hundred billion dollars budget every year so long term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets and it's based on free enterprise and some. rationally true if you take a look at people who are going to it's based on the states where the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through this system because the pentagon is a publicly funded institution obviously you know half of the federal budget now is the voted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed a lot of contractors and you know people making large amounts of money and i wouldn't want to stop why would they not want to feed at the trough any more the british historian. once said that

economy whereby industrial policy is determined by the defense department in the allocation of their you know several hundred billion dollar budget every year so long term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets is. based on free enterprise and so on that's only marginally true if you take a look at the core of the economy it's based on the state. the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through the system because the pentagon is publicly funded institution obviously you know half the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed a lot of contractors and the people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want to feed at the t

term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets is. based on free enterprise and so on that's only marginally true if you take a look at the core of the economy it's based on the states. the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through the system because the pentagon is publicly funded institution obviously you know half of the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed a lot of contractors and people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want to feed at the trough anymore the british historian e.p. thompson once said that it was misleading to say that the soviet union in the united states had military industrial complexes he said

term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets is. based on free enterprise and so on that's only marginally true if you take a look at the core of the economy it's based on the state. the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through the system because the pentagon is publicly funded institution obviously you know half the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed or a lot of contractors and people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want to feed at the trough anymore the british historian e.p. thompson once said that it was misleading to say that the soviet union in the united states had military industrial complexes he said

the defense department we have an additional $550 billion. we estimate 850 to $900 million of the defense department over 10 years. admiral mullen testified in secretary commended both at my questioning two weeks ago. they saw 1.1 trillion over 10 years for the defense department, leaving them by far the heaviest hit of any department in the government. they both used the words hollowing out and breaking. those are the military was the general knows very, very serious words. when you hollowed the military, you break this magnificent military. we have done something we will regret and will be wrong for america. >> let me follow up with that because i would think that he would agree there are probably areas for the military could be more efficient and effective in its expenditures, but this doesn't go in with a scalpel. this goes and more with a hatchet or a chainsaw to to the nation's military. >> absolutely. secretary commended that this is president obama's policy. this is unacceptable. but we've been told directly that the general knows our

the defense department is used to getting what they want. next year, the united states will spend more on defense than every other country in the world combined i. thank goodness! >> it's the only thing that the government does that works. >> it does work? >> yes, it works! bureaucrats are not involved. >> you think the raptor really works? >> we will spend more on the regulation, the epa's budget is more than $8 billion more than every other country combined. >> they are paying for one airplane for the defense department. >> it is the interesting thing on this recommendations to the super committee, the republicans want balanced budgets. they want individual balanced budgets. what do the democrats want -- >> balance?! >> they want tax increases. >> that's the point. >> hinry waxman proposed $16 billion to create jobs. so now that's the code for more taxes. they are skipping -- they are lying through their teeth. they want more tax. >> the one thing about this -- the bill that created the super committee was that if they could not reefn a de

the defense department is used to getting what they want. next year, the united states will spend more on defense than every other country in the world combined i. thank goodness! >> it's the only thing that the government does that works. >> it does work? >> yes, it works! bureaucrats are not involved. >> you think the raptor really works? >> we will spend more on the regulation, the epa's budget is more than $8 billion more than every other country combined. >> they are paying for one airplane for the defense department. >> it is the interesting thing on this recommendations to the super committee, the republicans want balanced budgets. they want individual balanced budgets. what do the democrats want -- >> balance?! >> they want tax increases. >> that's the point. >> hinry waxman proposed $16 billion to create jobs. so now that's the code for more taxes. they are skipping -- they are lying through their teeth. they want more tax. >> the one thing about this -- the bill that created the super committee was that if they could not reefn a de

the defense department, when we meet next week with secretary panetta, he will give us some specifics on what they're going to cut, and then we will have a chance to hold hearings and look at that. there is no question, all of this yellow is going to be cut. this will come out of manpower. the end strength will be reduced by 100,000. that is people who will no longer be wearing the uniform, defending the nation. and there will be programs cut. if the super-committee is not able to come up with their program, the charges they have been given, which is a very tough, very tough job for these 12 individuals. if that does not happen, then the red will all be cut. and that is pretty drastic. that has gone to help some of the baseline things that were not enough to cover what was needed. we know that that is going to be cut. it was already cut. it was running $150 and now it is $120. >> we have about 15 minutes left. chuck, why don't you jump in? >> we mentioned the afghanistan war. a lot of people are still wondering, can win win there? almost 1800 lives lost. what does victory look like? w

economy whereby industrial policy is determined by the defense department in the allocation of their you know several hundred billion dollars budget every year or so long term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department using illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets and it's based on free enterprise and someone that's only marginally true this need take a look at people who are going to it's based on the states or the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through the system because the pentagon is publicly funded institution obviously you know half the federal budget now it was devoted to things that are either military where intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed a lot of contractors and people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want t

department in the allocation of their you know several hundred billion dollars budget every year so long term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets and it's based on free enterprise. that's only marginally true. take a look at any who are. it's based on the states or the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through the system because the pentagon is publicly funded institution obviously you know half the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed a lot of contractors and people making large amounts of money and why we don't want to stop. why would they not want to feed troth anymore the british historian e.p. thompson once said that it was misleading to say th

term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets is. based on free enterprise and so on that's on a very marginal crew if you take a look at the core of the economy it's based on the states. the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through this system because the pentagon is a publicly funded institution obviously you know half of the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed a lot of contractors and people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want to feed at that trough anymore the british historian e.p. thompson once said that it was misleading to say that the soviet union in the united states had military industrial complexes

term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets is. based on free enterprise and so on that's on a very marginal true if you take a look at the core of the. it's based on the state. the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through this system because the pentagon is a publicly funded institution obviously you know half of the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed a lot of contractors and people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want to feed at the trough anymore the british historian e.p. thompson once said that it was misleading to say that the soviet union in the united states had military industrial complexes he said i

term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets is. based on free enterprise and so on. it's only very marginally true if you take a look at the core of the economy it's based on the state. the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through this system because the pentagon is a publicly funded institution obviously you know half of the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed a lot of contractors and people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want to feed at that trough anymore the british historian e.p. thompson once said that it was misleading to say that the soviet union in the united states had military industrial complexes

term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the defense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets is. based on free enterprise and so on. it's only marginally true if you take a look at the core of the economy it's based on the state. the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of funding a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through the system because the pentagon is publicly funded institution obviously you know half of the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies feed or a lot of contractors and people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want to feed at the trough anymore the british historian e.p. thompson once said that it was misleading to say that the soviet union in the united states had military industrial complexes he sai

the defense department, when we meet next week with secretary panetta, he will give us some specifics on what they're going to cut, and then we will have a chance to hold hearings and look at that. there is no question, all of this bill is going to be cut -- yellow is going to be cut. this will come out of manpower. the end strength will be reduced by 100,000. that is people who will no longer be wearing the uniform, defending the nation. and there will be programs cut. if the super-committee is not able to come up with their program, the charges they have been given, which is a very tough, very tough job for these 12 individuals. if that does not happen, then cut.ed will al bel be and that is pretty drastic. that has gone to help some of the baseline things that were not enough to cover what was needed. we know that that is going to be cut. it was already cut. it was running $150 and now it is $120. >> we have about 15 minutes left. jump in? why don't you >> we mentioned the afghanistan war. a lot of people are still wondering, can win win there? what does victory look like? what are

. >>> an unusual blunder for the defense department as president obama continues his three-day bus tour. a truck carrying equipment for one of the president's stops is stolen. the truck was parked at a hotel just north of richmond when thieves stole it. the defense department says it was carrying a presidential podium, teleprompter, and portable sound system. the truck was later recovered. this time the government won't say if the thieves took anything. one of the president's most frequent critics will join him during one of his bus tour stops in virginia. governor bob mcdonnell will be with president obama tomorrow at the joint base langley eustis in hampton, where the president is announcing a plan to put veterans to work. the president will be making stops in jamestown, north carolina, and emporium, virginia, today, the second day on his three-day bus tour. during stops monday, the president proposed breaking up his failed jobs bill and passing it key piece by key piece. republicans are attacking the president's trip, saying he's campaigning for re-election on the taxpayer's dime. >>

it seems to me to be a very negative consequence of what is happening at state, department of defense and usaid in that they are failing. on page 17 of your report united states is a engage in 56 centers abroad for other than normal peacetime purposes in 1962. this isn't brand new. united states has always been engaged in two or more overseas. the question it begs to me is you are recommending we create another ig. but they are failing. three of the five we are supposed to have in place have not been recommended by the president or confirmed by the senate so we have three openings out of five and yet you want a sixth. >> i was the first inspector general in the department of homeland security, i am very focused on the inspector general community. i agree with the premise of your question and the chairman raised this issue. it troubles me we have vacancies that we have. i am especially troubled -- vacancies in the state department and impending retirement and cigar. having said that i urge the administration to fill those and senate to confirm whoever is elected by the administration b

in 2008, the department of defense and others put specifications out and said that there would be a network that could be built up here in this frequency band so are gps device is ought to be resilience to that network. >> so they warned gps. >> the department of defense, for themselves, for their acquisition and other things. if you go back, we have moved away from the gps. when people talk about some of the interference challenges, they are still referring to our old plan. when i said were building a network close to the gps spectrum. now we are further away. as i said, the issues related to position devices, we have announced a solution last week, and amazingly, we have had half a dozen gps manufacturers approach us and say we can build devices that can live harmoniously with lightsquared. >> what about the faa's concerns? have those been addressed with your new plan? >> we are working closely with the faa. i don't see any aviation safety issues. greg retaken by supplies by the faa raising these issues? >> the issues were understood when the testing happen. yes, we were surprised that th

>> i work for the defense department as a teacher. >> terrific. yes, sir. >> i go to a community college right down the street. i want to ask you what your take is on the occupy wall street movement. you said you want to represent the 99% and the 1%, i want to hear your take. >> i do not know. yeah no, -- you know, i don't like the anti-capital capitalism messages. people can speak out. that is what is beautiful about our company. when you live -- our country. when you live in a place like china, people organized as they well, -- will, i think it is a manifestation of our democracy. i may not agree with it. i do not agree with a lot of what they say. it's a legitimate part of our system. i agree on the claims of dollars we are going through that everybody is upset on the trillions of dollars we are going through that everybody is upset about -- i agree on the print of dollars we are going through that everybody is upset about. do i agree that we will never bail out banks again? yes. do i agree that banks are too big to fail? i agree with that too.

. >> the defense department shares what it knows about foreign hackers. here is rob nelson. >> spies are helping the american banks. the national security agency reportedly provides wall street banks with information about foreign packers. that is a sign of growing fears of financial sabotage. it is the electronic espionage arm of the defense department. apple has a u.s. for the unlocked feature on its devices ./ that means no other devices can use that without facing legal action. apple has been battling other smartphone makers over patents including this one. a third of british e-book readers are too embarrassed to let anyone know if they are reading. there's no cover on it, like normal books. i am rob nelson. >> some people are dtried to escape by reading. >>> it looks like january in colorado. a snowstorm dump several inches of snow in the denver area. it snapped tree limbs, which fell on houses and our lines. several homes were damaged and thousands of homes and businesses were left in the dark. >> iic adam caskey salivating. that is your kind of wea

department, which your own defense secretary says that you just can't take? >> they'll be very difficult, but i was the one who negotiated that. it was designed for two reasons. one it was along the lines of what you'll remember, no one else will know, the graham-rudm graham-rudman-holis, reducing across the board. the other is making a considerable downpayment in drawing down the long-term debt so it's designed to serve two purposes, make it clear to the guys in the committee if they don't reach an agreement this goes into effect. failing to go into effect it is a bad alternative, the only worst alternative is not to do anything about the long-term debt. >> let me ask you a personal question before i let you go. you will be 70 next year. >> no, no, i'll be 69. >> 69 next year, wait a minute i thought you were -- >> i'm 68 right now. >> i'm sorry. i aged you a year. >> it's hard to even say the numbers, 6-8, but anyway. >> reporter: i wonder when you look around, four more years, 2016, have you totally ruled that out in your head? you tried two times to run f

what did he say when he left the department of the fast -- department of defense? that anyone who wants to start another war under these conditions, but it is going to happen. that is what the demonstrations are about on the street. one of these days people are going to connect excessive spending in our wars overseas and our economic we are in a crisis right now that will be a do-or-die situation. we are at a point where we have, essentially, we have we are in 150 countries. we have a -- 900 nations around the world. people are trying to war war they have that through the monetary system that we have. there is also a loss of civil liberties. whether or not it is the war on drugs, the war on terror -- what privacy do we have? today they talk about the institutional was asian. there is $1 trillion for the students. but we will do is deliver the telephone numbers to the government's so that they can find these kids that have been abused and ask -- where are you going to pay those bills? we have announced program of assassinating americans. we are in perpetual war. we

the defense department participating also. today's drill runs from 8:30 this morning to 2:00. you could have attacks in any weather conditions but as far as the drills, not quite sure if that will go on with the weather but that was the plan. so you might hear a few extra noises or see some strange things out there today i don't. >> they will be doing it in the rain during those hours. there may somebody gaps in the rain. but basically a rainy day for us. a fair amount of rain. anywhere from maybe a quarter of an inch, half inch up to three-quarters of an inch. you can see around the washington area, rainfall including heavy rain off to the north and down to the south along 359 here. that is where some of the heaviest rainfall here down towards mount vernon, the riverside area, alexandria, perhaps hybla valley as well. there is the district, a little bit of heavy rain in portions of northwest and in southeast, northeast washington as well. rockville getting some heavy rain. surf advisory am, maryland and then off to the south as well -- savage, maryland and then off to the sou

worked, that was done by the defense department long before the computer industry. we knew that the nuclear bomb was going to work. >> and here is the thing, adam. >> didn't know the internet was going to work, they invented it and-- >> here is what we're talking about, adam. the freeway markets saw this thing sitting there that the department of defense, created for itself and said, you know what? there are so many more applications for this thing, however, when you bring up that, or maybe the space department and we got out of that, i'll give you that much, and-- >> we've got a lot more than pain. >> the fact of the matter it, let's be realistic, the arizona solar plant contract recently they're using chinese panels, and when does this end? we can't afford this, we simply cannot i a ford it. >> charles, i'm saying that reasonable people can agree or disagree that solar energy, for example, it's something that the united states could put, the united states government could put a lot, could put a lot of money in and then, reasonable people could agree or disagree he

department, which your own defense secretary says that you just can't take? >> they'll be very difficult, but i was the one who negotiated that. it was designed for two reasons. one, it was along the lines of what you'll remember, no one else will know, the graham-rudman-hollings, reducing across the board. the other is making a considerable down payment in drawing down the long-term debt, so it's designed to serve two purposes, make it clear to the guys in the committee if they don't reach an agreement this goes into effect. failing to go into effect it is a bad alternative. the only worse alternative is not to do anything about the long-term debt. >> let me ask you a personal question before i let you go. you will be 70 next year. >> no, no, i'll be 69. >> 69 next year. wait a minute. i thought you were 69 right now. >> i'm 68 right now. >> i'm sorry. i aged you a year. >> it's hard to even say the numbers, 6-8, but anyway. >> reporter: i wonder when you look around, you ever thought, four more years, 2016, have you totally ruled that out in your head? you

department, which your own defense secretary says that you just can't take? >> they'll be very difficult, but i was the one who negotiated that. it was designed for two reasons. one, it was along the lines of what you'll remember, no one else will know, the graham-rudman-hollings, reducing across the board. the other is making a considerable down payment in drawing down the long-term debt, so it's designed to serve two purposes, make it clear to the guys in the committee if they don't reach an agreement this goes into effect. failing to go into effect it is the only worse alternative is not to do anything about the long-term debt. >> let me ask you a personal question before i let you go. you will be 70 next year. >> no, no, i'll be 69. >> 69 next year. wait a minute. i thought you were 69 right now. >> i'm 68 right now. >> i'm sorry. i aged you a year. >> it's hard to even say the numbers, 6-8, but anyway. >> reporter: i wonder when you look around, you ever thought, four more years, 2016, have you totally ruled that out in your head? you tried two times to

we can bring department of defenses, h.h.s. if necessary. we can also bring a big paycheck every once in a while. $9 million for loma prieta. we can do that. the state as part of the team can bring a real lot. they do on response. they do on recovery. and to support the local government. and the local governments, to me, are key. because they are to support the survivors. that's what it's all about. supporting the survivors. my congressman from back in boston. not currently, but was for years, a guy by the name of tip o'neal. he used to say our politics are local. and i firmly believe that, but all disasters are local as well. and it's important to remember that. and it's important to remember that as each incident happens, people who are at the local level, the city level know that. sometimes just once in a while, some of the feds might forget that. but it's important to remind people of that. so if you look and you have federal government with all sorts or local and state government. very impressive team. very impressive team. can do a lot

. >> the defense department cited $1 billion in improper payments last year alone, including for a golf art -- a golf outing and trips to paris and singapore. one person turned in expenses for 23 working hours each day last month. >> last year, when measured $125 billion that went out improperly for the federal government. >> the administration says it is tackling the problem with new technology and improved auditing procedures. >> we are using were called for in the tools to come through the payment more effectively to and tuesday if they are -- and to see if they are paying out payments twice for the same service or to the wrong person. >> last year, they estimate $680 million, a big increase over previous years. in january, the government will launch a "do not pay" list, it will include others that are not eligible for payment. >> bail was denied for a man accused of setting fire to a northwest baltimore tire shop last week. jason hicks is believed to be using tar and gasoline to pink tires. he got an argument over a paintbrush and it somehow caught fire. he's been charged with assau

>> i work for the defense department as a teacher. >> terrific. yes, sir. >> i go to a community college right down the street. i want to ask you what your take is on the occupy wall street movement. you said you want to represent the 99% and the 1%, i want to hear your take. >> i do not know. yeah no, -- you know, i don't like the anti-capital capitalism messages. people can speak out. that is what is beautiful about our company. when you live -- our country. when you live in a place like china, people organized as they well, -- will, i think it is a manifestation of our democracy. i may not agree with it. i do not agree with a lot of what they say. it's a legitimate part of our system. i agree on the claims of dollars we are going through that everybody is upset on the trillions of dollars we are going through that everybody is upset about -- i agree on the print of dollars we are going through that everybody is upset about. do i agree that we will never bail out banks again? yes. do i agree that anks are too big to fail? i agree with that too.

so was the defense department. they have 50 caliber machine guns on the front steps, fearful of where it might go. i have seen some of that with the protesters and anti- protesters. i would rather have people come out in the opposite. i want to make sure you get on tonight so we will take one more. [laughter] >> i thank is fairly well known, the people i talk with are disgusted with the lawmakers in congress, the way the country is run. many people have told me that that there is a subset of people that are below the radar screen. my first indication of that was when ollie north was brought forward and all of what he was doing abroad. it was nice to see it aired for the general country. how you feel -- how do you feel about limiting access of our role of elected officials? >> i think they will considerable power of them employed on people. they have a legitimate right to lobby. it gets back to who is raising money for you and how much and what interest to represent? i'm not sure what can be done other than what i h

department? >> what i'm comfortable with is that republicans and democrats should come together on that super committee and the leadership should press their members -- the republican leadership should press their members to do what president obama -- >> but would you be comfortable if it comes to the trigger? if it comes to the trigger, would you be comfortable with the sorts of cuts that would be required of the defense department? >> we need the kind of balance that the mandate of the super committee would produce. i'm comfortable if we balance cuts with revenue, asking the wealthiest americans to pay their fair share to make sure that we don't only focus on the benefits for the wealthiest americans. we need to make sure we do this with revenue and cuts. default is not the worst option but it would certainly be better than the republican proposal to get to $1.2 trillion which is piling all the cuts on the backs of the middle class. that's unacceptable. >> congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz

last year we told you dna was used to identify these men, today, the defense department announced they'll be buried nogt a single casket next wednesday. and they died in 1944. their aircraft crashed in a bombing mission near berlin. >> unemployment figures show rate fell to 11.9% from 12.1% in august. showing california employers added 12,000 new jobs during september. the state is moving in the right direction but at a snail's pace. >> good news there that we can see those job gains hopefully beginning -- gaining momentum. koit take us about four and a half years to recover jobs lost so this needs to pick up. >> marin county had the lowest rate in the state 7.2%. imperial count eye with the highest, 29.6%. and california had the second highest, trailing only nevada. >> oakland city officials insist campers must leave the plaza. this demonstration is in its 11th day and they ignored an eviction order from the city and just minutes ago a new ultimatum came down. and they've been camping out since october 10th. the city says peaceful demonstrations between 6:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. are accep

. >>> the county received $28.2 million from the defense department to start improvements to rockville pike in addition to walter read medical center. but according to the washington examiner, legit says the county needs $40 million more to pay for the improvements and maybe that won't be enough. most of the money will go to road improvement toes try to improve traffic flow. >>> vdot is opening a new flyover lamp that will carry i-95 southbound over a new interchange to the 11th street bridge project. crews will close exit ramps to southbound i-295 beginning at 10:00 tonight. there will be 20-minute stoppages in between traffic between midnight tonight and 5:00 a.m. tomorrow. >>> drivers might want too void arlington and d.c. tonight through sunday as the d.c. miler will be closed both ways and access to the memorial bridge from washington boulevard will be closed. the 27th army annual 10 miler is scheduled to run in 12:30 p.m. >>> metro will close the three stations along the green and yellow lines, shaw, u-street and columbia heights for track work. the stations will shut down at 10:

these are the first pictures released by the defense department on the downing of a u.s. chopper back in august. all 38 people on board were killed, including 22 navy s.e.a.l.s. the s.e.a.l.s had been called in to reinforce other troops already under fire. just before landing, the chopper was hit by rocket-propelled grenades. barbara starr explains how it all went down. we don't have that. i apologize for that. the report also says the taliban commander in the united states was -- that they were pursuing, turned out to pose mainly a local threat. in other words, they were chasing another helicopter that did not pose a major threat. barbara starr, we have it now. she'll explain more. >> reporter: the steep mountain valley gave the taliban the critical edge to see what was coming at them. investigators were told, quote, there's two ways in, two ways out, north or south. as was routine even with this area full of taliban troops and weapons, u.s. military planners were not given critical information about the helicopter's specific route. information that could have further he

department in the allocation of their you know several hundred billion dollar budget every year so long term decisions about where whole industries go in the united states is determined by the sense department there's an illusion that the united states and other western societies are markets and. we're based on free enterprise and so. that's only true. this you take a look at the poor economy it's based on the states where the pentagon controls about five hundred billion dollars of study in a year and it uses that to control all of high technology industry the costs of the initial stages of technological development are all subsidized by the taxpayers through the system because the pentagon is a publicly funded institution obviously you know half the federal budget now is devoted to things that are either military or intelligence or homeland security and all those bureaucracies fiedel lot of contractors and people making large amounts of money and why would they want to stop why would they not want to feed it trough anymore the british historian e.p. tom went through that was misleading

gives the defense department, then, leverage to try and end mccarthy's investigations and--and probes into--into their security program, that leads to the final... c-span: i want to come... >> guest: ...to the final confrontation. c-span: i want to come back to a couple of other names--lauchlin currie. >> guest: lauchlin currie is one of the shadowiest figures of the whole maze of soviet espionage and soviet agents at work in the highest reaches of the--of the federal government. he was an aide to president roosevelt. he was almost certainly--and we know this from the venona decrypts, which have recently been made--been made public. c-span: what's that mean -- venona? >> guest: venona was the project--the--the project name for the decoding and decipher--deciphering of intercepted kgb cables that had passed between washington and new york and other kbb--kgb stations to moscow. c-span: this just happened in the last couple of years? >> guest: well, the--the release of these documents... c-span: that's what i mean. >> guest: yeah--came--comes in 1995, is when these had been made public,