during the red scare, hoover had, hoover amassed a file catalog called the editorial card index of 2,500 entries. a staggering amount of information considering he'd only worked there for a year or two. on his meteoric rise to the top, he -- by the end of the red scare in 1920 -- his file catalog had expanded to include 450,000 entries. think about it for a second. in an era before electronic surveillance or any capability. um, i'd like to read you a section, this is -- i'm going to depart just a little bit from the standard, um, book talk format. i'm going to sprinkle some readings throughout my talk. this is by far the longest one that i'll read. this is from the very beginning of the book. to give you an idea of the extent that the attacks on german-americans reached. on the night of april 4, 1918, nearly a year to the day after the united states entered world war i, a harrowing spectacle was unfolding on the streets of collinsville, illinois, a community of 4,000 located 12 miles across the river from st. louis. trailed by a roused and swelling crowd, a forlorn, barefoot figure wrapp

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not only did he hate hoover but was very suspicious of hoover. he was convinced that hoover was insinuating himself trying to undermine the new deal which was not entirely wrong. he is an important figure because he was one of two cabinet members in the roosevelt administration who served franklin roosevelt for all 12 years roosevelt was in office the other being frances perkins. he was a very important aide and adviser to roosevelt, one that roosevelt didn't always take very seriously. he was mercurial and a curmudgeon and would try to get his way by threatening to resign but he was also known -- the reason roosevelt put him in charge of the public works administration which ended up with jurisdiction over hoover dam is he was convinced that harold ickes would be so careful with the public's money that he will be disbursed slowly which it roosevelt's inclination. and he did. it was never a with of scandal at the public works administration and it gave us truly enduring public works. this gentleman right here. >> i don't know if you have done any

not, not only did he hate hoover, he was very suspicious of hoover. he was convinced that hoover was out there insinuating himself, trying to undermine the new deal which wasn't entirely wrong. [laughter] but, now, ickes, very important figure in the new deal in part because he was one of only two cabinet members who served franklin roosevelt for all 12 years that he was in office, the other one being frances perkins. he was a very important aide and adviser to roosevelt, one that roosevelt didn't always take very seriously. he was mercurial, he was a curmudgeon, he would try to get his way by threatening to resign, but he was also known -- the reason that roosevelt put him in charge of the public works administration which ended up with jurisdiction over hoover dam was that he was convinced that ickes would be so careful with the public's money that he would only disperse it very, very slowly which fit roosevelt's inclination. and he did. it was never, there was never a whiff of scandal at the public works administration. and it gave us some truly en

donovan spied on hoover, had moles in hoover's organization when i was doing the research for the book, i wondered when did they have time to spy on the axis when they spied on each other so much? the pentagon, at first,mentedded to part of this oss. george marshall thought it was a plot by donovan to take over army and navy intelligence, which was what donovan had in mind 23 roosevelt let him do it. he comes to accept the oss, but the senior intelligence officers never did, and, in fact, they fought donovan's organization throughout the war. at one point, towards the middle of the war, the military folks formed their own espionage units behind donovan's back nicknamed the pond with a job to spy behind donovan's back, but to spy on him, spy on his officers. they collected information on the wives of oss officers. donovan -- i mean, in any war, you're going to have generals on the same side fighting among themself. world war world war ii was no different. the officers were constant battles among them. in donovan's case, though, the fights were more intense because the conventional jnls

he was a devoted progressive, and he detested herbert hoover. pat, not only did he hate hoover. he was very suspicious of hoover. he was convinced that hoover was out there insinuating himself trying to undermine the new deal , which wasn't entirely wrong. now very important figure in part because he was one of only one of two cabinet members in the roosevelt administration his serve franklin roosevelt for all 12 years that roosevelt was in office, the other one being frances perkins. he was a very important aide and adviser to roosevelt. roosevelt did not always taken very seriously. he was the curio, a curmudgeon, would try to get his weight by threatening to resign, but he was also known, the reason that roosevelt put him in charge of the public works ministration which ended up with jurisdiction over a river dam was that he was convinced that it would be so careful with the public's money that he would always disperse it very slowly, which could result. and he did. never a scandal at the public works and ministration commanded give us some truly enduring public works. this g

edgar hoover. he thought donovan's organization was the biggest collection of amateurs he had ever seen and in the beginning it was a big collection of managers. hoover had his fbi spot donovan and collect information. they spied on oss officers. he had moles in donovan's organization. donovan spot on hoover and had moles in hoover's organization. when i was doing the research i wondered when they had time to spot on the enemy when they were spying on each other. the pentagon wanted no part of donovan's office of strategic services. george marshall thought this was a plot to take over army and navy intelligence which is exactly what donovan had in mind had franklin roosevelt let him do it. marshall eventually comes to accept donovan's oss but senior intelligence officers never did. they fought donovan's organization throughout the war. at one point toward the middle of the work is military intelligence even formed their own secret espionage unit behind donovan's back. it was nicknamed the pond and

edgar hoover came to work for the bureau of investigation. he was a young law school graduate, graduated from georgetown university. worked at the library of congress for a while as a cataloger and then came and put his -- the skills that he had used as a cataloger to work at the b. -- fbi. he went to work what was called the general intelligence division better known as the radical division. during the red scare, hoover amassed a file catalog called the editorial card index of 2,500 expressentries. a staggering amount of information considering he worked there a year or two. on his rise to the top, by the end of the red scare, 1920, his file catalog had expanded to include 450,000 entries. think about it in a second in an era before electronic surveillance or any capability. i'd like to read you a section -- i'm going to depart just a little bit from the standard book talk format. i'm going to sprinkle some readings throughout my talk. and this is by far the longest one that i'll read. this is from the very beginning of the book. to give you

the democrats ran against hoover for 70 years. they got to run against somebody because they sure can't run on "obama-care" or his proposals to increase taxes on employers when the deal we're trying to do is have more employees. so, yeah, they'll talk about hoover. george bush. richard nixon. "haley barbour is too fat." >> i think what's going to happen and what is happening right now in our nation right now, bob, is, look, there are going to be two economic plans that the people of our country will choose from. one that was the failed plan proven to have failed under george w. bush which brought us not only record deficits but worse, record job losses in our country. then, you will have the plan that has been advanced by the president, once again renewed with his drive for the american jobs act, that will create jobs in our country. and the opposition from the do- nothing tea party congress makes it very clear that they do not have an alternative except to prevent the president's plan from fully working. we'd all like it to be cr

yep, got it. ( hip-hop blaring ) yo, hoover park! ( tires squealing ) ( helicopter circling ) ( siren wailing ) this is part of the shooting chain related to anton rhimes' murder. 23rd street retaliated against hoover park this afternoon. tonight, hoover park strikes back. it's probably not over, either. david: no. ah, man, that's anthony, huh? been better off if you'd locked him up. hey, david, let me talk to you for a second. did some checking into that gun, the one that went missing from the buy-back program. yeah... dug up some paperwork. take a look at this. the signature on the bottom of that receipt. "lieutenant gary walker." could be completely innocent, but at some point or another, the gun that killed rhimes passed through walker's hands. ( indistinct radio communication ) so to save some money, i trained mathis team of guinea pigs to brrow this tiny boat. guinea pig: row...row. they generate electricity, which lets me surf the web all day. guinea pig: row...row. took me 6 months to train each one, 8 months to get the guine

the democrats ran against hoover for 70 years. they got to run against somebody because they sure can't run on obama-care or his proposals to increase taxes on employers when the deal we're trying to do is have more employees. so, yeah, they'll talk about hoover. george bush. richard nixon. haley barbour is too fat. >> i think what's going to happen and what is happening right now in our nation right now, bob, is, look, there are going to be two economic plans that the people of our country will choose from. one that was the failed plan proven to have failed under george bush which brought us not only record deficits but worse, record job losses in our country. then you will have the plan that has been advanced by the president once again renewed with his drive for the american jobs act that will create jobs in our country. and the opposition from the do- nothing tea party congress makes it very clear that they do not have an alternative except to prevent the president's plan from fully working. we'd all like it to be creating job

first on herbert hoover and on note woodrow wilson. hoover was secretary of commerce -- commerce. woodrow wilson, the point about whether he was serious about a third term in 1920. >> i just read the biography of calvin coolidge. wilson and wilson's crowd talked about a lot of things, but it was clear to the party that he could not be the next president. that is a little bit of a different category. we did not say roosevelt was secretary of the navy, we said he served the secretary of the navy, but we appreciate the caller. >> james is starting a snack from stanford, north carolina. >> i just wanted to comment -- in the fall of 1940, when the willkie did a whistle stop tour of florida. i happened to be a western union trainee in melbourne, florida. he was on the rear platform of the train. a crowd of 50 or 60 people have the opportunity to shake hands with wendell willkie. that was the comment i wanted to add. >> do you remember if you saw him on the whistle stop tour? what did you take when you saw him campaign? did he leave an impression? >> i was a kid at 18-years old. i was in

the hoover dam is located in my district and hoover power had been critical to southern nevada's economy, businesses and consumers since the dam first started operating in 1936. hoover power is clean and affordable and today we are taking an important step toward making it stable. the hoover power contracts are due to expire in 2017, and h.r. 470 would authorize the continued allocation of electricity from the hoover dam for the next 50 years until 2067. extending nevada's access to low-cost, clean hydropower through the enactment of h.r. 470 is key to nevada's economic recovery because it will help create certainty over future electricity prices. and certainty is exactly what our economy needs right now in order to get people back to work. h.r. 470 was developed as a consensus, bipartisan plan to ensure the continued availability and reliability of hoover power to the citizens of nevada, california and arizona. hoover contractors who participated in developing this plan have invested more than $1.3 billion to construct, operate and maintain hoover dam in the past. they agreed to contrib

but he did not apologize for it and thought that was his role and the role of government but no hoover and roosevelt shared fundamental economic believes but always different was the negative from the constitution. >> we have time for two more questions. . . the commentary is that even though the idea wasn't very popular the opinion polls show a majority whip in favor of it when you did have a block in the senate that would determine to fight and you didn't have a countervailing passion. the naacp and the encounter that i talked about a few minutes ago went to the white house and said he will be able to defeat the filibuster if you make it an administration bill to. it was a procedural step and would have made it harder. it was something he didn't want to do. he didn't have a personal commitment to racial equality or civil rights. that role in the administration will end by the way before he joined the federal government had been the president at the chapter of the naacp and he managed to get the same small memorial because that is the first moment you could see the commitment interest

brian. >> as we can see there, he was talking about the golden gate bridge, hoover dam, projects like that in this country. kristen welker traveling with the president, thanks. >>> texas governor rick perry is making some serious arguments about the economy, federal budget, and taxes today, but as nbc's andrea mitchell tells us, a problem developed for the campaign when he got a bit in his own way and veered off topic. >> reporter: in south carolina today rick perry tried to reboot his flagging campaign by keeping it simple. >> this is the size of what we're talking about right here. taxpayers will be able to fill this out and file their taxes on that. >> reporter: his big idea, an optional flat tax, 20% for individuals and corporations. critics say dramatically reducing the tax burden for the wealthy and the size of government. perry would cut federal spending to 18% of the overall economy. $1 trillion a year less than current spending. how would he do it? >> for instance, you can take the secondary and elementary department of education programs that are in d.c. today, cut them in h

brian. >> as we can see there, he was talking about the golden gate bridge, hoover dam, projects like that in this country. thanks. >>> texas governor rick perry is making some serious arguments about the economy, federal budget, and taxes today, but as nbc's andrea mitchell tells us, a problem developed for the campaign when he got a bit in his own way and veered off topic. >> reporter: in south carolina today rick perry tried to reboot his flagging campaign by keeping it simple. >> this is the size of what we're talking about right here. taxpayers will be able to fill this out and file their taxes on that. >> reporter: his big idea, an optional flat tax, 20% for individuals and corporations. critics say dramatically reducing the tax burden for the wealthy and the size of government. perry would cut federal spending to 18% of the overall economy. $1 trillion a year less than current spending. how would he do it? >> for instance, you can take the secondary and elementary department of education programs that are in d.c. today, cut them in half, and that will save you $25 billion in on

aviation, i mean, the great secretary of commerce in those days, herbert hoover, was the great secretary of commerce because it was his job to hire the first air traffic controllers, to site the airports, to come up with federal policy. well, you had to have a stimulating economy to do that. and i looked back and, in fact, ronald reagan was on to this when -- two reagan stories. when he moved into the white house, he ordered some favorite presidents -- predecessors' portraits for the cabinet room. and "the washington post" opined that the old man was already losing his mind because he asked for calvin coolidge to adorn the mantle place. and then we fast forward six years later, and reagan is in walter reed recovering from one of his many surgeries, and he's dozing, and he's got an army blanket on his lap. and, you know, where the knees would be he has this book opened face down with his half glasses on and be some white house aides were there. and how long have you boys been here? not very long, mr. president. we didn't want to disturb your book. i was just reading this book on calvin co

excuse me, herbert hoover middle school. i went there when it was a junior high school. >> we will talk about deepening our understanding of student achievement. and ongoing concerns about the quality of middle schools as well as the process that we are taking right now for the goals for this year. and on behalf, i like to thank the deputy superintendent and the assistant superintendent for taking the time to meet with us. we organized a special meeting in which we had members from the district and liaisons' present. and community leadership from the revisory for special education and graduates that were there to gain a better understanding of how the district interprets student achievement and to answer our questions are around the house student achievement is look at and answer our own questions as well as to discuss what strategy for the district is used to accelerate closing the achievement gap. also, i want to take the opportunity to thank commissioner fewer and commissioner mendoza for stopping by and encouraging us to

we have herbert hoover on the other side. in terms of prosperity, both of them are running in favor of prosperity. the problem for al smith is you had eight years of republican rule. the republicans have a leg up on the prosperity front. you had the 1920's. it has been a boom decade for wall street and for large segments of the economy. i think the darkest part of this election and the reason i said it really is one of the most vicious elections in american history is our third p, the question of prejudice. al smith -- i think most americans today are more familiar with john kennedy as a catholic candidates. that caused a real star even in the 1960's. al smith raised all of those questions much earlier in 1928. it had already been a decade that had been seized with a lot of questions about immigration, immigration reform, the rights of the two clocks klan. those come into play. >> how did the role of catholicism play out? >> it was a vicious campaign. this was not new to him. when he ran in new york state, he faced at them. i

this is aren't program year, and we are delighted to be working with herbert hoover middle school. what we are doing is providing a $10,000 grants for the continuity of our program should the current funding run out and also cultural programs for the children through the community interior -- through the community. we were pleased to put on our first event for the school. i am just about to blank on his name. our wonderful instructor as well all volunteered to instruct the students in oregon may -- in origami. we are delighted to be joined by superintended garcia and they also gave encouragement to the kids. i just wanted to let you know about this program. this year we will be providing smaller financial support to the japanese immersion programs and rosa parks and clarendon, and we will be continuing our fund raising in the coming years to expand into other schools going forward, so i want to thank you all for the opportunity to talk about this. foreign-language training is so important. we think that is an important thing we can do. thank you very much. >> any questions from the

hoover would hog the nomination. in that way, willkie was grassroots. he, himself, was not of the grass. he was chosen by people who were voting against the party. the other names were "the party." willkie came in as somebody different, not what we expected. >> he retired and an exciting man. i think for many people, it was none of the above. it was the perfect atmosphere for an outsider who promises and looks very different from the republican standard of the late 1930's. >> what was the state of the democratic party, amity shlaes, and franklin roosevelt and his support in 1940, eight years after the new deal at a time when most presidents would step down? >> roosevelt's victory -- 46 out of 48 states in the preceding election -- was so hard to get past. even as the party was beginning to get past it, this idea of having a third term -- the war was coming closer. war in 1940 had already been declared in europe. germans had invaded poland and britain. all of a sudden, roosevelt was -- just when you say there roosevel

and the hoover dam. unleash potential. >> the president says coming out of college weighed down by student loans can make you put off things like buying a house and starting a family. that has an impact on the economy as a whole. they say the changes he ordered could effect 6 million people or more. they hope it has an impact on him politically. >> bret: wendell goler live on the north lawn. thank you. like student charged with term paper due, lawmakers chargeed with finding places to cut deficit have a lot to do and not much time to do it. jim angle has an update. >> the super committee must decide by thanksgiving how to cut $1.2 trillion in spending in the next ten years to avoid automatic cuts. half in domestic spending and half in defense, which most lawmakers oppose. the director of the congressional budget office reminded lawmakers he needs several weeks to score any savings. >> backing up from thanksgiving, that left us looking at the beginning of november. which we are very aware, as you are, con

edgar hoover, the film directed by clint eastwood. grazer says the creator of the fbi drew him in. >> i'm fascinated with characters that have a lot of power. >> for the young man in the 1930s to an elderly hoover in the 1960s, what was it like to see that transformation. >> he was amazing. he would sit there for eight hours with the prostoretic. >> he tried to take jfk and his brother. >> he lasted through six presidents and he was able to do that because he always had information on them, files on the presidents. >> this is new footage from the top-secret movie. >> private information on someone in power. >> he said that clint was the perfect man to direct this movie. >> j. edgar is just the latest achievement for clint eastwood. we're turning our spotlight on california to the oscar winners' hometown of carmel. >> do i feel lucky? >> well, do you? >> clint eastwood's role as dirty harry was set in the city of new york. >> i started living here in the '60s. it's right in wean. it's not too far from los angeles and san francisco. and

herbert hoover won 40 states. smith won eight. louisiana, alabama, mississippi, south carolina, massachusetts, and rhode island. another question? >> if you were to grade him as governor, what letter would you assign? and as the first catholic president candidate, did he view -- he help how the cuontry -- country viewed religion? >> i would give governor smith an a because he faced a tremendously uphill battle. new york was a republican state at the time and as i mentioned he had a very tough time dealing with the legislature which was overwhelmingly republican. in 1920 when they expelled the socialists i never understood why because they had 110 republicans out of 150 seats and it didn't really matter when if came to the votes. but i would give smith an a. he created so many things, the budget, the short ballot, to stop voting for six or seven statewide offices and have some appointed. are and the port authority in new york and new jersey was one of his authorities, bi-state authority. he had a lot of interesting things. >> john

first on herbert hoover. and also woodrow wilson. hoover was secretary of commerce. before he was the nominee. woodrow wilson, the point about whether he was serious about a third term in 1920. >> i just read the biography of -- i am just a white teen a biography of -- writing a biography of calvin coolidge. wilson and wilson's crowd talked about a lot of things, but it was clear to the party that he could not be the next president. that is a little bit of a different category. we did not say roosevelt was secretary of the navy, we said he served the secretary of the navy, but we appreciate the caller. kitty and indeed. >> james is starting a snack -- james is joining us next from stanford, north carolina. >> i just wanted to comment -- in the fall of 1940, willkie did a whistle stop tour of florida. i happened to be a western union trainee in melbourne, florida. he came from melbourne. he was on the rear platform of the train. a crowd of 50 or 60 people had the opportunity to shake hands with wendell willkie. that was either september or october of 1940. that was th

the newspapers that occupants slept on were called hoover blankets all of which helped elect governor roosevelt. today it seems a little different. >> the problems are everywhere. and that the people who are looking for a solution to the problems are equally everywhere. >> reporter: that's why attorney mike aluva says he's helping organize in walnut creek. >> a lot of these people are hurting. >> reporter: occupy san rafael and occupy palo alto launch tomorrow as well. >> it's exciting, it's really genuine grass roots. >> it's people who are seeing themselves, their neighbors squeezed economically. >> reporter: walnut creek starts in front of bank of america, kitty corner from tiffany's. >>> in new york today a small group of occupy wall street protesters took their message uptown for what they called a millionaire's march. the group passed by tea party backer david koch as well as a head fund manager. the balance of power has waited for the wealthiest 1% and they want to shift power back to the other 99% of the population. >>> in santa cruz protesters with the occupy wall street move

the occupy "wall street journal." >> tell me what the hoover eyewitness report is. crack heads down there? what are they doing. >> not crack heads. soft drugs. >> bill: what are soft drugs? >> marijuana. you know, stuff that you inhale. although there are report of heroin as well. the new york post reported there have been heroin exchanges. >> if you were a dope dealer and you have all the people that may be customers that is where you would go. >> a counter culture collective down there. >> bill: you walk down from your lavish apartment two blocks away and here with the rif-raff and smelling marijuana. >> i haven't smelled it. my husband has and my neighbors have. i smell it in parks in new york city sometimes. >> reporter: i know you wouldn't go anywhere near this. >> that is not really the point. >> bill: the city of new york, the police commissioner don't want the people there anywhere. the park is owned by a private concern. three weeks is enough. having sex outside at night and all of this stuff. this is the report. thatth is what they are being reported. >> r

no actual abuses been found since the hoover days. there has been sloppiness and mistakes. i go into some of those in the book, but no actual abuse. host: we're talking to ron kessler about the tactical operations unit. our focus this week is looking inside the fbi. mr. kessler said the budget might be around $40 million. we do not know exactly what the budget is for this unit. the fbi budget request overall for the agency for 2012 was about $8.1 billion. in fy 2011, the budget is broken down among the different departments. we did find for the 2012 request line items for electronic surveillance. it was about $4.5 million for 13 new positions. you can see the current services with 45 positions. that includes five agents at a cost of about $40 million. we go next to bloomfield, conn.. caller: my question is why are they releasing this? he only wants to sell a book. why would he detail operations so that the enemy would know what the fbi is doing question of these are people working to defend your country. host: what do you think the motivation was for making this transparent

this is aren't program year, and we are delighted to be working with herbert hoover middle school. what we are doing is providing a $10,000 grants for the continuity of our program should the current funding run out and also cultural programs for the children through the community interior -- through the community. we were pleased to put on our first event for the school. i am just about to blank on his name. our wonderful instructor as well all volunteered to instruct the students in oregon may -- in origami. we are delighted to be joined by superintended garcia and they also gave encouragement to the kids. i just wanted to let you know about this program. this year we will be providing smaller financial support to the

fox news anchor margaret hoover. you were down there. >> i was. >> bill: you weren't dressed like that. >> i had an overcoat on. i do want to tell you what i found. i found a new version of our favorite paper the occupied wall "wall street journal." >> my hypothesis you correct me if i am wrong. it didn't have much to do about economics. this is about we don't like america. we don't like anything about it we are far left loons. whatever our beef is, we are going to take to the streets. just say it's just like 1968. it's the same thing. >> it's if you pleasey you say that because some the people i talked to they are like well we were hippies and we didn't have anywhere tolls go. a guy told me he was a communist. patchwork of far left special interest groups. >> bill: funded by george soros. >> i don't know who paid for this paper but it's a very nice broad sheet. >> bill: they couldn't pay for it. the guys in the alpaca sweaters laura just mentioned. >> they could if their parents are paying for it unions are in there

he held teaching positions at stanford and hoover institute fellow. sims is a professor at princeton. >>> treasure hunters have struck it richover the coast of island. a florida-based crew found the wreckage of a british ship sunk by a german torpedo in 1917 in the north atlantic with 20 tons of silver onboard now worth 18 million dollars marine exploration plans to recover that silver next spring. the british government gets 20%. last month odyssey discoveredder in ship with an estimated 200 million dollars of silver onboard. -- >> 80/20? 100% when it comes to chance of light rain today? >> absolutely, at least drizzle. up to possibly half an inch in the north bay. good morning, 11:20 south from south beach you can see how limited visibility is due to drizzle and lou clouds, moisture and warm airstreams -- streams in. clouds are thicker than they were a couple of hours ago. in case you weren't with us at the top of the show, i've broadened the picture to show you that the bulk of the heaviest rain is in the sierra, all rain, not snow like our last sy

he held teaching positions at stanford and hoover institute fellow. sims is a professor at princeton. >>> treasure hunters have struck it richover the coast of island. a florida-based crew found the wreckage of a british ship sunk by a german torpedo in 1917 in the north atlantic with 20 tons of silver onboard now worth 18 million dollars marine exploration plans to recover that silver next spring. the british government gets 20%. last month odyssey discoveredder in ship with an estimated 200 million dollars of silver onboard. -- >> 80/20? 100% when it comes to chance of light rain today? >> absolutely, at least drizzle. up to possibly half an inch in the north bay. good morning, 11:20 south from south beach you can see how limited visibility is due to drizzle and lou clouds, moisture and warm airstreams -- streams in. clouds are thicker than they were a couple of hours ago. in case you weren't with us at the top of the show, i've broadened the picture to show you that the bulk of the heaviest rain is in the sierra, all rain, not snow like our last sy

the newspapers that occupants slept on were called hoover blankets all of which helped elect governor roosevelt. today it seems a little different. >> the problems are everywhere. and that the people who are looking for a solution to the problems are equally everywhere. >> reporter: that's why attorney mike aluva says he's helping organize in walnut creek. >> a lot of these people are hurting. >> reporter: occupy san rafael and occupy palo alto launch tomorrow as well. >> it's exciting, it's really genuine grass roots. >> it's people who are seeing themselves, their neighbors squeezed economically. >> reporter: walnut creek starts in front of bank of america, kitty corner from tiffany's. >>> in new york today a small group of occupy wall street protesters took their message uptown for what they called a millionaire's march. the group passed by tea party backer david koch as well as a head fund manager. the balance of power has waited for the wealthiest 1% and they want to shift power back to the other 99% of the population. >>> in santa cruz protesters with the occupy wall street move

our ambition and imagination and willingness to do the thing that is build the goldenigate bridge and hoover and unleashed all of the potential in this country. >> small business owners don't agree with the president. it is not ambition but regulation. the new poll shows that is number one concern. who has it right, the president or people on the front lines. i am david. welcome to forbets on fox. we'll go with mike, elizabeth and mark and kim. we have a full house. mike, first you, who has it right? >> small business has it right, david. look at the new dodd-franks is will killing the banking industry . coming-- look at energy. shutting two plants because of epa regulation and 400, employees it will lay off. heritage foundation david estimates that regulations extract over trillion from our economy every year. >> kim, the treasury department said the opposite. that i am quoting from jan here who works for the assistant secretary two commonly repeated misconception. regulations is holding back business investment and hiring. the white house said it is not a problem. >> no, i mean, if you thi