middle eastern islam, and middle eastern islam is saudi islam. not knowing that muslims are just between one-fourth and one-fifth of the total. that the largest concentration of muslims are in south asia, pakistan, india, bangladesh. so i think there is a problem there. so i would like to start with the sources of islam, then give a bit of history of islam. and then we will go on from there quickly to actual instances, because what i think is important, otherwise we can keep on quoting encountered quoting from the koran, we can keep on hiding and counter citing from history what matters is the practice of a certain religion. and i say so, and i'm not making any comparisons, in practice today islam was much more forgiving than the texas governor perry. really. the state of texas executed stroman, and wouldn't forgive him despite the pleas of one of the victims. so i would like to start with the solstice -- source of the koran, and the main source of course is the holy book of the koran. the koran, the holy book of islam, and we can keep on as i sa

you know, when you say that islam means peace, do you mean islam in theory or islam in the way that it's practiced? because if you mean islam in theory, that's cool. but let's talk about islam in practice. why is that, for example, that the vast majority of muslims who have been tortured, murdered, were you during present in the last 50 years and certainly the studies and arabic languages back at the point about the last 10 years in particular. why is it the vast majority who have been subject it to this treatment are subjected to it by fellow muslims? what is up with that? .. so again you don't need to freeze in that moment. recognize what the stakes are. the stakes are universal human-rights and reflect on the tips i give you in the book so you will be prepared for what one would think should be and are very legitimate conversations in a pluralistic society. it takes moral courage. >> earlier we got a tweet that gets a lot of these questions. why are pictures drawing the profit mohammed forbidden? why is it such a travesty to burn them? getting to the danish cartoon controversy which i

it's a different kind of islam. today islam is a means to an end not an end in self. 40 years ago the majority of women in egypt didn't wear hijab, the islamic head covering. today over 80% do. but thatoesn mean there fanatics, that they want to see the muslim brotherhood take over in egypt, that they want sharia islamic law to prevail rigidly. it a expression of we want islam as the cultural milieu, the environment in which chan. it's no different, really, than the kind of judeo-chstian values so many of us have in the westn terms of defining what our political goals are >> liu: china's currency and robin wright on islam when we continue. captioni sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: i'm betty lieu you only bloomberg television filling in for crlie rose on assignment. we begin with the debate over china's currency policy. on tuesday the u.s senate mandated a bill that would have stiff tariffs onhina the bill faces an uphill battle in the house. the white

theer are really and islam is ation of the region of radical islam coming to to surround israel. now that this is a concern actually as two wings there is deal with onion ring which is most shearers ring and iran is trying to not only to be a little is a but also to export what they call the run of the evolution partially successful in lebannon lebanon is for all practical purposes is controlled by iran for its proxy crucible up and at the same time the muslim brother was in egypt in the some other companies are trying to create again a different but additional islamic movements. that can be moderate on one hand but can be much more extreme but when never is there is concern even moderate muslims are against islam so you cannot feel and the islamic leader no matter our more duties that can say simply that well as the right to exist as a jewish state to additionally we live just lee you cannot accept it so islam is a sion of the middle east is bad for is a will and since we are looking at the we have good reasons to be concerned and you are really afraid of that i mean this is a t

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy but these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuse this war islamic elements what worries are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they cannot get over it frankly and it's just really not part of our society we do not think about a car that they are night is just not part of our culture our side and no knowledge is just a hold on the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that worries them israel and this is a major major issue they don't bring it up sometimes straightforward but this is what it is they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over the market and there will be renegotiate camp david if you know in fact the let go of it altogether so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit of this foreign policy interest but they are not at all worried about the needs a

it's a different kind of islam. today islam is a means to an end not an end in self. 40 years ago the majority of women in egypt didn't wear hijab, the islamic head covering. today over 80% do. but thatoesn mean there fanatics, that they want to see the muslim brotherhood take over in egypt, that they want sharia islamic law to prevail rigidly. it's a expression of we want islam as the cultural milieu, the environment in which chan. it's no different, really, than the kind of judeo-chstian values so many of us have in the westn terms of defining what our political goals are >> liu: china's currency and robin wright on islam when we continue. captioni sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: i'm betty lieu you only bloomberg television filling in for crlie rose on assignment. we begin with the debate over china's currency policy. on tuesday the u.s senate mandated a bill that would have stiff tariffs onhina the bill faces an uphill battle in the house. the whi

it's a different kind of islam. today islam is a means to an end not an end in self. 40 years ago the majority of women in egypt didn't wear hijab, the islamic head covering. today over 80% do. but thatoesn mean there fanatics, that they want to see the muslim brotherhood ta over in egypt, thathey want sharia islamic law to prevail rigidly. it a expression of we want islam as the cultural milieu, the environment in which chan. it's no different, really, than the kind of judeo-chstian values so many of us have in the westn terms of defining what our political goals are >> liu: china's currency and robin wright on islam when we continue. captioni sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: i'm betty lieu you only bloomberg television filling in for crlie rose on assignment. we begin with the debate over china's currency policy. on tuesday the u.s senate mandated a bill that would have stiff tariffs onhina the bill faces an uphill battle in the house. the white hou

it will be more islamic. definitely. >> gary, let's turn to tunisia, a historic election will take place this weekend. >> first election since independence from france. team of u.s. monitors will be there and so will what will happen the tu tunisiaians -->> ten months have passed and they were now choosing representatives for a new assembly. those elected will draft a new constitution. >> we are proud, we are the first, we are the example, it is good. >> 80 political parties will be on the ballot. some of the strongest are islamist. 98 percent are muslim. many like this woman oppose a thee cattic state. >> all want to right to choose what they believe. you know, what is better for our life. >> eliot abrams at the council for foreign relations. >> i am optimistic for tunisia. it is the one with the best chance of moving reasonably smoothly to democracy. i am hopefully, as the islamist party turns out to be a reasonable and moderate party. that would be a good model for the rest of the reason. >> tunisia is a p

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy but these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuse this whole islamic elements what worries are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they cannot get over it frankly and it's just really not part of our society we do not think about our guard that they are night just not part of our culture i was a dan no no losers just hold on the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that worries them israel and this is a major major issue they don't bring it up sometimes straight forward but this is what it is they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over the market and the world renegotiate camp david if you know in fact let go of it altogether so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit of this foreign policy interest but they are not at all worried about the needs and the des

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuse this war islamic elements what worries them are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that has they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they cannot get over it frankly and it's just really not part of our society we do not think about al qaida day and night it's just not part of our culture i was inside and the knowledge is just a hold on the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that worries them is israel and this is a major major issue they didn't bring it up sometimes straightforward but this is what it is and they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over the market and the world renegotiate camp david if you know in fact the let's go over it all together so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit about this foreign policy interest but they are not at all wor

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy with these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuse this war islamic elements what worries them are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that has they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they cannot get over it frankly and it's just really not part of our society we do not think about al qaeda day and night it's just not part of our goal sure i was inside and no knowledge is. a hold on the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that was in israel and this is a major major issue they didn't bring it up sometimes straightforward but this is what it is they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over the market and the world renegotiate camp david if you know in fact let's go over it all together so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit over this foreign policy interest but they are not at all worried about the n

it's a different kind of islam. today islam is a means to an end not an end in self. 40 years ago the majority of women in egypt didn't wearhijabd covering. today over 80% do. but thatoesn mean there fanatics, that they want to see the muslim brotherhood take over in egypt, that they want sharia islamic law to prevail rigidly. it a expression of we want islam as the cultural milieu, the environment in which chan. it's no different, really, than the kind of judeo-chstian values so many of us have in the westn terms of defining what our political goals are >> liu: china's currency and robin wright on islam when we continue. captioni sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: i'm betty lieu you only bloomberg television filling in for crlie rose on assignment. we begin with the debate over china's currency policy. on tuesday the u.s senate mandated a bill that would have stiff tariffs onhina the bill faces an uphill battle in the house. the white house is also rel

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy but these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuses who are islamic elements what worries them are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they cannot get over it frankly and it's just really not part of our society we do not think about our guard that they are night just not part of our culture our side and no knowledge is just a hold on the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that worries them israel and this is a major major issue they don't bring it up sometimes straight forward but this is what it is they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over the market and the world renegotiate camp david if you know in fact let go of it altogether so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit about this foreign policy interest but they are not at all worried about the needs

theer are very early and islam is ation of the region of radical islam coming to to surround israel. no doubt that this is a concern actually as two wings there is deeded onion ring which is more cheers ring and iran is trying to not only to be to is a but also to export what they call the one of the evolution partially successful in lebanon lebanon is for all practical purposes is controlled by iran for its proxy isabella and at the same time the muslim brother was in egypt in the some other companies are trying to create again a different but the additional islamic movements. that can be moderate on one hand but can be much more extreme but when never is there is concern even moderate muslims are against islam so you cannot feel and the islamic leader no matter our more duties that can say simply that well as the right to exist as a jewish state to additionally only live just lee you cannot accept it so slim ization of the middle east is bad for is a little and since we are looking at the we have good reasons to be concerned and you are really afraid of that i mean this is a threat

i fear are very early and islam is ation of the region of radical islam coming to to surround israel another that this is a concern actually as two wings there is the iranian wing which is not cheers remain and. is trying to not only to be known to is a but also to export what they called the iranian revolution personable successful in lebanon lebanon is for all practical purposes is controlled but you know on its proxy it is build up and at the same time the muslim brotherhood was in egypt in the some other companies are planning to create again it different but the additional islamic movements. that can be moderate on one hand but can be much more extreme but we're never isil is concerned even the moderate muslims are against islam so you cannot feel any islamic leader no matter our more duties that can say simply well as the right to exist as a jewish state called additionally all religious lee you cannot accept it so slim ization of the middle east is bad for israel and since we're located we have good reasons to be concerned and you are really afraid of that i mean this is a thr

so you cannot feel any islamic leader no matter our more duties that can say simply that well as the right to exist as a jewish state to additionally overlit just lee you cannot accept it so slim ization of the middle east is bed full is a little and since we are looking at the we have good reasons to be concerned and you are really afraid of that i mean this is a threat to your country and military throughout africa threat to to to to the existence of your country what are you just talking so not only are you afraid this is this is a difference you know what we are not afraid we passed enough in our father problems in our puzzle we are not afraid but we are concerned but i will give you an example we do have a peace agreement with egypt this preserve game and give is a lot of benefits one of them it was an economic benefit because israel could decrease dramatically the size of the defense budget since the day that we signed a peace agreement with egypt so the size of the defense budget that was thirty percent of the g.d.p. only thirty five years ago now is only six percent and we co

theer are very early and islam is ation of the region of radical islam coming to to surround israel. no doubt that this is a concern actually as two wings there is deeded onion wing which is most shearers ring and iran is trying to not only to be all started to is a but also to export what they call the iranian revolution partially successful in lebanon lebanon is for all practical purposes is controlled by iran its proxy crucible up and at the same time the muslim brother was in egypt in the summer other companies are trying to create again a different but additional islamic movements. that can be moderate on one hand but can be much more extreme but we're never is the is concerned even the moderate muslims are against islam so you cannot feel and the islamic leader no matter our more duties that can say simply that well israel as the right to exist as a jewish state to the additionally overlit just lee you cannot accept it so slim ization of the middle east is bed full is a little and since we are located we have good reasons to be concerned and you are really afraid of that i mean

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy but these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuses who are islamic elements what war is there are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that have they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they kind of get over it frankly and it's just really not part of our society we do not think about our car that they are night just not part of our culture i was inside and the knowledge is just hold on hold on the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that's worse than israel and this is a major major issue they don't bring it up sometimes straightforward but this is what it is they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over the market and the world renegotiate camp david you know in fact the glow of it all together so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit of a vis foreign policy interest but they are not at all worried ab

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy but these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuse this whole islamic elements what worries are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they cannot get over it frankly and it's just really not part of our society we do not think about our car that they are night just not part of our culture i was a sedan no no losers just hold a hold on the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that worries them israel and this is a major major issue they didn't bring it up sometimes straightforward but this is what it is they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over the market and there will be renegotiate camp david if you know in fact the let go of it altogether so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit about this foreign policy interest but they are not at all worried about the

moderate islam will define the new country. well there have been obviously a number of concerns voiced by people outside of libya but precious little concern voiced within libya most of the concern outside of libya points to the involvement of a couple of former mujahideen afghan people who work there or fought in afghanistan someone who was a former guantanamo detainee. all of whom died in the rebel side as well as a number of other folks who are here to an islamic political agenda but for the most part these folks have have said that they embrace pluralism that they want to see democracy in libya they have no beef with the united states especially since nato is hoping. the libyans as i said to. waste any concerns about the prospect of islamic extremism stream is. what critics of the nato mission many radical elements you mentioned a couple there are those with al qaeda links will indeed part of the rebel forces now the fact is where all those elements now and do they actually pose a risk for the future. well of course the sit

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy but these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuse this whole islamic elements what worries are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that has they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they cannot get over it frankly and it just will not part of our society we do not think about our guard that they are night just not part of our culture our side and no knowledge is just a hold on the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that worries them israel and this is a major major issue they don't bring it up sometimes straight forward but this is what it is they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over the market and the world renegotiate camp david you know in fact the let go of it altogether so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit about this foreign policy interest but they are not at all worried about the needs a

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy but these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuse this war islamic elements what worries are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they cannot get over it frankly and it's just really not part of our society we do not think about our car that they are night just not part of our culture i was inside and no knowledge is just a hold on the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that worries them is israel and this is a major major issue they don't bring it up sometimes straightforward but this is what it is they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over the market and the world renegotiate camp david if you know in fact the let go of it altogether so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit of this foreign policy interest but they are not at all worried about the needs

way about the role of the political islam in this stage and i don't think their political islam almost pacifically the muslim brotherhood are about to hijack the revolution in egypt. all right i'm going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on arab democracy state park. the you can see. the it's. a very warm welcome to you this is your news today protesters on the polls saying they are. essentials a good excuse to get the status of the human experiment to explode when. we pursue a businessman who knows what it knows is let me try some small local economies and it's on changelings us financial to the responsibility to maintain our confidence in markets and not want to be seems way mullins's with cheapie missions close to see the subprime loans close splits and fail circulate sinkin sealable cycling as the us crash seven smashed ceiling. to the classes in absence of such programs increase the total economy. just so. can i say. welcome back i'm curious about your mind you were talking about democratic transitions in the arab world. can. say. ok we

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy but these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuse this whole islamic elements what worries are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that has they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they cannot get over it frankly and it just really are not part of our society we do not think about a car that they are night just not part of our culture our side and no knowledge is just a hold on the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that worries them israel and this is a major major issue they don't bring it up sometimes straightforward but this is what it is they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over this might and there will be renegotiate. at you know in fact kind of let go of it altogether so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit about this foreign policy interest but they are not at all worried about the needs

still to come, shining a light on the islamic art. one at new york museum experiences last beyond the exhibition hall. here in the united states, this halloween looks more like christmas, after an unusually early storm hit the northeast. up to 2 million homes are still without power. at least nine people were killed in snow-related accidents. the worst hit massachusetts. the winter weather caught many off guard. >> it begins again. winter weather has come early to america's northeast. new englanders are digging themselves out, and it is only halloween. over the weekend, more than a foot of snow fell, saddling quickly on trees that have not lost their leaves, and causing tremendous damage. >> it is cold. we have senior citizens and children suffering. schools are closed. >> no heat, no food, no power, and it is october. >> a flight was stuck on the tarmac in hartford for seven hours. the pilots pleaded for help. >> i have a paraplegic that needs to come off. i have a diabetic that has an issue. i just have to get some help. >> today, 2

and i say islam because organized islam treats women as second-class citizens. islamic doctrine sanctions the beating of women and wives in particular. are not persons in islam. and terrorists sanctioned in islam. hitler hated the final solutions from the germans because he thought they were too civilized to accept his plan to eliminate the jewish. ahmadinejad shouts it from the rooftops. we are going to wipe out israel and the united states. name me one, one muslim leader, one muslim government that is condemned that statement. that is the problem we face, and most people are in denial because it is a horrible problem. >> david? what do you think it is going to take to defeat that problem? we are not confronting it right now. we have had 30 years of islamic revolution. >> americans wake up slowly. there are always two-sided impacts of things. there is always a lot of unintended consequences but also good things have to have sometimes negative consequences. america is probably the happiest country on the face of the year. there is so much to do here. there is so

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuses who are islamic elements what war is there are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that has they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they kind of get over it frankly and it's just really not part of our society we do not think about our car that they are night just not part of our culture i was inside and no knowledge is there just a lot of older the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that worries them israel and this is a major major issue they didn't bring it up sometimes straightforward but this is what it is they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over the market and the world renegotiate camp david if you know in fact the let's go over it all together so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit about this foreign policy interest but they are not at all

well top story now the late colonel gadhafi son and key right hand man saif al islam has reportedly crossed the border from the libyan desert into new jail it's believed that he's trying to negotiate a surrender to hand him self in to the international criminal court if he does eventually stand trial he could yet spill some of the secrets of the regime's murky dealings with the same governments that helped topple his father parties either bennett reports. to some market deputy was a man too much secrets which will supposedly he buried with him i think that there were tremendous sighs of relief all over capitals in western europe this is somebody who cut all sorts of deals with the french but also the british and the italians and to a certain extent the americans as well i think they did not want him put on trial for any reason and i am not misled is that surprised that he was captured alive if you very quickly ended up dead that gadhafi is returning from diplomatic akes all was spectacular hugs handshakes and kisses from the heads of countries which denounced him gadhafi is now silenced but

the late colonel gadhafi son and key right hand man saif al islam has reportedly crossed the border from the libyan desert in tunisia where it's believed he's trying to negotiate a surrender himself in to the international criminal court if he does eventually stand trial he could spill some of the secrets of the regime's murky dealings at the same government top of his father parties are for bennett what's. to stop. market f.p. was a man too much secrets which will supposedly he buried with him i think that there were tremendous sighs of relief all over a capital so in western europe this is somebody who cut all sorts of deals with the french but also the agreed issue and the italians and to a certain extent the americans as well i think they did not want him put on trial for any research and i am not messiter surprised that he was captured alive if you very quickly ended up there you could have is returned from diplomatic exile was spectacular hugs handshakes and kisses from the heads of countries which denounced him but that he's now silenced but the suspicion around those who laid out

nation of islam has few numbers before malcolm x and once mao:joins the nation of islam he is paroled from prison on august of 1952. the next 12 years he works day and night to transform the nation of islam and not just as a religious institution but a political institution. when we look at malcolm x, he is the quintessential organizer. what is interesting is in the last year of his life he doesn't have time to organize the organization of afro-american unity. some say how come he had less than 500 followers at the time of his death? he had helped organize a group making millions of dollars that was now global in scope and he was under threat of death last year of his life and tried to organize two different organizations. i will conclude by saying what is so important about malcolm is he was a local organizer who transformed the black freedom struggle but impacts what we mean by democracy. he has a long running dialogue with people like martin luther king or organizations like student nonviolent coordinating committee for emmylou hater. transforming democratic insulations. if we excl

i fear are very early and islam is a show in the region radical islam coming to syria israel. another this is a concern actually as two wings there is the iranian wing which is more cheers ring and iran is trying to not only to be all stirred to is a but also to export what they called the one of evolution personable successful in lebanon lebanon is for all practical purposes is controlled by your own proxy isabella and at the same time the muslim brother was in egypt in the some other companies trying to create again a different birth additional islamic movements. that can be moderate on one hand but can be much more extreme but we're never israel is concerned even the moderate muslims are against islam so you cannot feel any islamic legal nonmetal are more duties that can say simply that well as the right to exist as a jew stick to additionally we live just in the you cannot accept it so its limitation of the middle east is bad for is a little and since we are looking at the we have good reasons to be concerned and you are really afraid of that i mean this is a threat to you

theer are very early and islam is ation of the region of radical islam coming to to surround israel. no doubt that this is a concern actually as two wings there is the iranian wing which is most sheers ring and iran is trying to not only to be on stage who is a but also to export what they call the owner of the evolution partially successful in lebanon lebanon is for all practical purposes is controlled by iran for its proxy of his beloved and at the same time the muslim brother was in egypt in the some other companies trying to create again a different but additional islamic movements. that can be moderate on one hand but can be much more extreme but when never is there is concern even moderate muslims are against islam so you cannot feel any islamic leader no matter our more duties that can say simply that well israel as the right to exist as a jewish state to the addition of a live just lee you cannot accept it so slim ization of the middle east is bed full is a little and since we are looking at the we have good reasons to be concerned and you are really afraid of that i mean thi

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy but these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuse this whole islamic elements what worries are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that has they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they cannot get over it frankly and it's just really not part of our society we do not think about that they are night just not part of our culture i was a dan no no losers just hold on the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that worries them israel and this is a major major issue they don't bring it up sometimes straight forward but this is what it is they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over the market and the world renegotiate camp david if you know in fact the glow of it all together so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit about this foreign policy interest but they are not at all worried about the needs and the de

stations about secularism in islam how is this relating to women how is it relating to. the economy but these things do not really matter to the very people who come and infuse this whole islamic elements what worries are two things first they are worried about this menace this islamic terrorist menace that they have exaggerated they have created to some extent and exaggerated and they kind of get whatever it frankly and it just really are not part of our society we do not think about of god that they are night just not part of our culture our side and no knowledge is just a hold on the other point i have here is that is that the other thing that worries them israel and this is a major major issue they don't bring it up sometimes straightforward but this is what it is they are worried that if the muslim brotherhood in egypt take over the market and the world renegotiate camp david if you know in fact let go of it altogether so they are worried about their ally israel they are worried a bit about this foreign policy interest but they are not at all worried about the needs

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has a you know historically a very moderate form of islam and i think that you know the kind of the bogeyman of the islamic extremists is very much being used by by western leaders as a way of affectively scare mongering say they can't do it for themselves or if we if we pull out too quickly then you know what we might get is this kind of chaos or we might get some kind of islamic dictatorship and i think that effectively the n.p.c. now has become quite dependent upon western leaders for guidance and i think that's really kind of problematic in many ways because again they're not take they're not actually genuinely representing the libyan people and their particular interests they're orientated instead so was the west and their interests always interesting here your point of view patrick is joining us live there from london from the online magazine spight thanks in time thank you. for the high court in london this to hear a case over the use of uranium in hans weapons by u.s. led forces during the infamous iraqi battle of fallujah back in two thousand and five this following a numbe

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this is our team welcome to the program the late colonel gadhafi son and key right hand man saif al islam has reportedly crossed the border from the libyan desert into new gerry it's believed that he's trying to negotiate a surrender to hand him self in to the international criminal court if he does eventually stand trial he could get spilled some of the secrets of the regime's murky dealings with the same governments that helped topple his father auntie's other bennett reports. to some market deaf people demand too much secrets which will supposedly he bury it with him and i think that there were tremendous sighs of relief all over capitals in western europe this is somebody who cut all sorts of deals with the french but also the british and the italians and to a certain extent the americans as well i think they did not want him put on trial for any reason and i am not misled is that surprised that he was captured alive if you very quickly ended up dead is that gadhafi returning from diplomatic saw was spectacular hugs handshakes and kisses from the heads of countries which denounced him

groups islamic groups and pressure and it was in cities like an exam and at the time when people were expecting a revolution this didn't get much attention then when the revolution came when it seemed at least in the center of cairo to be peaceful. crowds and chanting people who will be tensions in. the room. with the local christian community and it's a real big question is he symbolically is egypt going to go from being a secular dictatorship if you like to being an islamic dictatorship but many will be many more people who'd be happy to live in who will ensure that there are significant groups ten percent of the population christians for there are many security interests really all depends who would find themselves probably very much less free than they have been for her birth if such an islamic group and. still to come on our two europeans find that being protected from poverty is becoming an empty planet financially hard pressed nations target basic social programs to balance their books putting a dampener on the blanks opposed to wiping out homelessness by twenty fifteen. years

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