root out the taliban it's all of us outside military leader claims his country isn't to blame best musharraf accuses india of helping relations between pakistan and afghanistan turned sour which he thinks is only fueling the region's insurgency our military contributor examines his claims. being the true pakistani general came up with his latest review regarding this situation in afghanistan well what a surprise he blamed india for tuning every ghana stand against pakistan his reason because diplomats intelligence and military officials from afghanistan are getting training in india and they are coming back indoctrinated anti pakistan views and that's what general musharraf things and in reality the training of military and civilian officials in other countries cuts both ways and even could backfire big time ask cia who trained their pakistani counterparts and mujahideen during the anti-slavery jihad in afghanistan including qaida and their associates it was only after the united states completely abandoned afghanistan and pakistan then there are students contrary to the general musharraf lo

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it was not osama bin laden and the cia knew that. >> that was the former pakistani president pervez musharraf talking to my colleague there. bracing for a 7 billion, as the planet it's ready to mark the milestone, we will look at how china is pared to cope. gunmen in northeastern kenya have killed four people and then attack near the border of somalia. this is the fourth attack linked to a militant group. >> there is a sense of dread on the streets of nairobi, a city braced for trouble. already this week, two grenade attacks. the authorities are struggling to reassure the public and foreign tourists. >> we have enough men, we have enough capacity. >> here is why that they might be in danger. the army has to stormed across the border into somalia. they are chasing al-shabab, a group linked to al qaeda. no one is sure how far the government will go. this could make the simoleon famine even worse. as for al-shabab, they lost some territory recently but they vowed to retaliate. they are still capable of devastating terrorist attacks. >> the danger is that you are being lured into a trap. >> if th

-backed musharraf, and coming out in the streets again. twiet they've managed to achieve -- so a couple of years ago in the mid 2000s musharraf, basically, decided to get rid of the prime minister. he was asking too many questions about too many issues, and musharraf thought that he would, in the end, go after him and his legitimacy. so, basically, he decided, you know, hey, you're out. and in response this remarkable lawyer's movement came up which went out in the streets in the face of immense oppression in a single day in karachi, 40 people were killed. what musharraf did was let his allies run roughshod, kill these people. there was a bomb blast, also, in another instance. there was a state of emergency declared, and in the end it proved to be too much for him. and, you know, through a chain of events musharraf had to leave. he's now in england, basically, enjoying comfortable exile. and a major part of this is the confluence of factors that led to his leaving office, but do not tell me that these guys department have a major role to -

training in india and they are coming back indoctrinated anti pakistan views and that's what general musharraf things in reality the training of military and civilian officials in other countries cuts both ways and even could backfire big time ask cia who trained their pakistani counterparts and we just had been doing that anti-slavery jihad in afghanistan including qaida and their associates it was only after the united states completely abandoned afghanistan and pakistan and the various students contrary to the general musharraf logic of that foreign training he sold by their foreign indoctrination it was in pakistan that i qaida militants turned out to be the most rabid anti americans and it was them who turned their weapons against their masters and trainers. now for a brief look at some other stories making headlines around the world this hour train explosions have reportedly rocked the afghan capital kabul and there by city of a sort of bad in who not province a suicide bomber targeted a nato convoy in kabul killing at least three casualties were later airlifted to safety by nato helicop

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states completely abandoned afghanistan and pakistan that there are students contrary to the general musharraf logic that foreign training is followed by for an indoctrination it was in pakistan that i qaida military it's turned out to be the most rabid anti americans and it was them who turned their weapons against their masters and trainers. now for a brief look at some other stories making headlines around the world when explosions some reportedly rocked the afghan capital kabul and the nearby city of. our province a suicide bomber targeted a nato convoy in kabul killing at least three people several people were also heard when explosives were detonated on the outskirts of the city they're being treated at the scene of the most recent violent episode involved a man in afghan military uniform who turned his weapon on coalition troops and the country's south killing to. the heart of thailand is on flood alert as a massive body of water surrounding bank breaks through the city's defenses parts of the city are already under water and authorities warn of the situation it will worsen if barriers

states completely a bandit afghanistan and pakistan that there are a students contrary to the general musharraf logic that for in training use followed by their for an indoctrination it was in pakistan that i qaida military it's turned out to be the most ready it and americans and it was them who turned their weapons against their masters and trainers. now for a brief look at some other stories making headlines around the world. the heart of thailand is on for the other that has a massive body of water surrounding by and call can break through the city's defenses parts of the city are already under water authorities warn the situation will worsen if pirates give way three months over lentulus rains have caused the worst flooding in thailand in decades three hundred sixty lives across the country it's also called billions of dollars worth of damage by submerging homes factories and historic sites. a moroccan man has been sentenced to death for crying out the april bombing of a cafe that killed seventeen people. mani's lawyer signs the law on appeal the court's conviction and denies his client's

in india and they are coming back indoctrinated with the anti pakistan views and that's what general musharraf things and the reality of the training or of the military and civilian officials in other countries cuts both ways and even could backfire big time and ask cia who trained their pakistani counterparts and mujahideen during that anti-slavery jihad in afghanistan including i tried to and their associates it was only after the united states completely abandoned afghanistan and pakistan they had various students contrary to the general musharraf logic of that for in training he sold by the indoctrination it was in pakistan that i qaida military it's turned out to be the most ready it and americans and it was them who turned their weapons against their masters and trainers. now for a brief look at some other stories making headlines around the world this hour. the heart of the twilight zone a lot of that as a massive body of water surrounding bancorp breaks through the city's defenses parts of the city are already under water for it is on the situation worsen right three months old relentl

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training in india and they are coming back indoctrinated review anti pakistan views that's what gen musharraf things and in reality the training of military and civilian officials in other countries cuts both ways and even could backfire big time ask cia who trained their pakistani counterparts and mujahideen during that anti-slavery jihad in afghanistan including al qaeda and their associates it was only after the united states completely abandoned afghanistan and pakistan then there are students contrary to the general musharraf logic the foreign training is followed by there for an indoctrination it was in pakistan that i qaida militants turned out to be the most rabid anti american interests and it was them who turned their weapons against their masters and trainers. now for a brief the some other stories making headlines around the world this hour the odds all high that all of that as a massive ordeal or test surrounded by coke breaks through the city's defenses parts of the city ready on the water or on the situation western way three months over and then this rains all to the west lett

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training in india and they are coming back indoctrinate review anti pakistan views that's what general musharraf things in reality the training of military and civilian officials in other countries cuts both ways and even could backfire big time ask cia who trained their pakistani counterparts and we just had been doing that anti-slavery jihad in afghanistan including qaida and their associates it was only after the united states completely abandoned afghanistan and pakistan the various students contrary to the general musharraf logic of the foreign training he sold by their foreign indoctrination it was in pakistan that by qaida military it's turned out to be the most rabid anti americans and it was them who turned their weapons against their masters and trainers. now for a brief look at other major stories we're around the world we are you a beer american conference is underway in paraguay a key part of the spain and portugal looking to form a close race to help with their financial crisis general secretary and make a recess in the summit stating the first time latin america could be the solut

states completely abandoned afghanistan and pakistan then there are students contrary to the general musharraf logic that for in training is followed by for an indoctrination it was in pakistan that i qaida military it's turned out to be the most rabid anti americans and it was them who turned their weapons against their masters and trainers. well now for a brief look at some other stories making headlines around the world twin explosions are reportedly rocked the afghan capital kabul and the nearby city of god is a coup in our province a suicide bomber targeted a nato convoy in kabul killing at least four people several people were also hurt when explosives were detonated on the outskirts of the city they're being treated at the scene now the most recent violent episode involved a man in afghan military uniform turned his weapon and coalition troops a country south killing to. the heart of thailand is on flood alert as a massive body of water surrounding bangkok breaks through the city's defenses parts of the city are already under water and authorities warn the situation will worsen if there

in india and they are coming back indoctrinated and we have anti pakistan views thats what general musharraf things and in reality the training of military and civilian officials in other countries cuts both ways and even could backfire big time ask cia who trained their pakistani counterparts and mujahideen during the anti-slavery jihad in afghanistan including al qaeda and their associates it was only after the united states completely a bandit afghanistan and pakistan then there are students contrary to the general musharraf logic of that for in training use followed by for an indoctrination it was in pakistan that i tried a military it's turned out to be the most ready it and americans and it was them who turned their weapons against their masters and trainers. now for a brief look at some other stories making headlines around the world. the heart of tyler out of his own full other there is a massive body of water surrounding bangkok and breaks through the city's defenses parts of the city are already under water authorities warn the situation will worsen if there is give way three month

>> i never had reason to believe that president musharraf was involved in anything like that. there was, i think there was a general view that bin laden was in remote, some remote section of pakistan, not just a short ways from islamabad. i think what was startling was to find that he was living where he was. he wasn't hide anything a cave someplace -- hiding in a cave someplace. there was a lot of the imagery that somehow he'd gone underground fig rah tyly. figuratively. but i had no reason in my dealings with president musharraf, and i dealt with him quite a bit, to question his, his commitment to the work he was doing with us to help us deal with the threat that had emerged from pakistan. i think he came to believe that al-qaeda types threaten him personally as well as his regime as much as they did the united states, and i think that was true. two or three attempts on his life in a matter of weeks by al-qaeda or al-qaeda-affiliated organizations while he was still president. >> another question. yes, sir. we're down here in the front. >> well, i -- it's difficult to judge.

was that a strategically poor choice for the united states because musharraf was more useful to us in his previous role than the current government is? >> guest: i am going to answer that two ways. was it a strategic error for the united states? yes. do politicians in control in the united states differ from politicians elsewhere in the world? no. what do i mean by that? their interest in what was good for them and it happened to be good for the united states that's terrific and if it happens not to be good for the united states but it is good for them, that, too is terrific. so their calculation is how do my constituents respond to this? notte how does the grand strategy respond to this. how does this affect the country's welfare fight for six years down the road but how do my constituents reject? my constituents don't like our backing the military dictators so they have come to react to this id are going to promote that policy. >> host: sticking with pakistan for a bid, there is a popularly elected government in pakistan backed by the military generally assumed to really run the sho

president musharraf has been squeezed on the front and in congress. today he has to go back to the hill, but he has said that he will spend the assigned time here to make some remarks, and then we will take questions your so with that let me ask you to welcome general musharraf. [applause] >> first of all, my profound apologies for being late. i was held back up the hill. may i express my gratitude to george perkovich and the carnegie endowment for international peace for having invited me and giving me this opportunity to speak. without much ado i would like to get to the subject, and i will speak about our region, and about pakistan. and within that i must cover the united states pakistan relations, which have achieved some kind of criticality at this moment. talking of this issue i would like to start with relating a little bit of history from 1979 anwar because sometimes our members are short and we forget what has happened in the region. so that would be the case for what we ought to be doing and what we have now. i will take on the period of 197

meanwhile, former pakistani president pervez musharraf told an audience in arkansas that u.s./pakistani relations are at their lowest point with both sides to blame. >>> to washington now, after turning back president obama's overall jobs bill, republicans have once again rejected peace piecemeal portions of the president's bill. >> reporter: it was a 50/50 vote with two republicans, independents joe lieberman voting against this part of the president's plan, the $35 billion the white house says would have saved the jobs of more than 400,000 teachers, firefighters, police officers and first responders in this country. but president obama in a statement said that this is unacceptable, that americans, quote, deserve an explanation on why republicans refuse, in his words, to step up to the plate. by the way, they were also democrats who said they wanted to see changes in this plan, even though they voted for it. now, republicans say that we cannot afford another bailout of states. they're calling the stimulus 2.0. of course, they were against that half percent tax on millionaires

meanwhile, former pakistani president pervez musharraf told an audience in arkansas that u.s./pakistani relations are at their lowest point with both sides to blame. >>> to washington now, after turning back president obama's overall jobs bill, republicans have once again rejected peace me piecemeal portions of the president's bill. >> reporter: it was a 50/50 vote with two republicans, independents joe lieberman voting against this part of the president's plan, the $35 billion the white house says would have saved the jobs of more than 400,000 teachers, firefighters, police officers and first responders in this country. but president obama in a statement said that this is unacceptable, that americans, quote, deserve an explanation on why republicans refuse, in his words, to step up to the plate. by the way, they were also democrats who said they wanted to see changes in this plan, even though they voted for it. now, republicans say that we cannot afford another bailout of states. they're calling the stimulus 2.0. of course, they were against that half percent tax on millionai

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meanwhile former pakistani president pervez musharraf said u.s.-pakistani relations are at their lowest point with both sides to blame. >>> else where in washington, after turning back president's overall jobs bill, republicans have once again rejected piecemeal portions of the plan to get americans back to work. tracie potts joins us more from washington with more on this. good morning. >> good morning. it was a 50-50 vote where lober man voting against the president's plan that the white house says would have saved the jobs of more than 400,000 teachers, firefighters, police officers and first responders in this country. president obama in a statement said this is unacceptable, that americans, quote, deserve an explanation on why republicans refuse, in his words, to step up to the plate. by the way, there were also democrats who said they wanted to see changes in this plan even though they voted for it. republicans say that we cannot afford another bail out of states. they're calling this stimulus 2.0. of course, they were against that half perc

. >> host: i'm going to follow up on something there, the musharraf example. so here is a guy that executes his successful military coup, takes over the country it becomes, for his own self-interest, a u.s. partner is not an ally compost 9/11. sue dear is otherwise they are going to, you know, indeed my country, blow me up, whenever, better thing to do is to help the americans go after terrorists. first thing the americans do after seeing things you and giving him to zillions of dollars you have to take off your uniform and hold elections. was that a strategically poor choice for the united states because musharraf was more useful than the current government is? >> guest: i'm going to answer that into ways. it was a strategic error for the united states? yes. do politicians in control in the united states differ from politicians elsewhere in the world? no. what we mean by that? you're interested in what is good for them and if it happens to be good for the united states that's terrific and if it happens not to be good for the united states but it is good for t

to his son majesty who disappeared one year before gilad shalit was taken hostage we are modern no musharraf serve the ball over and over again the government and the country are not on my mind neither is the media your numbers are absolutely gave to the soviets. there are at the moment seven israeli soldiers who've been kidnapped or who are missing in action not me son mash it disappeared while hitchhiking to his army base major want to ride was captured twenty five years ago off his aircraft was shot down of eleven on these of the last pictures of him alive taken in a prison in iran guy have it disappeared fourteen years ago he was last seen at his army base one kilometer from the syrian border. it's an eerie it's an example that after fourteen years the government still has nothing to tell us our demand is that the government bring us any information is alive or dead here in lebanon and syria just bring it others us with they've brought us nothing new so we know certain her son is still alive and while she's pleased to get out is coming home she's disillusioned a new government that made

folks this is cross talk that means you can jump in anytime you want i very much encourage it but first musharraf where does the world stand right now with seven billion people and still counting today's world population is double what it was in one thousand nine hundred fifty seven and seven times what it was only two centuries ago by mid century a projected growth will put that figure at nine point three billion people concerns are mounting that such sustained expansion of the humankind threatens to run dry this planet's already overstretched resources. the business as usual scenario predicts that humanity will be using renewable resources and land at the rate of two planets each year by twenty thirty and just over two point eight planets each year by two thousand and fifty in addition to medical progress and higher agricultural productivity fertility start to be the main driver of population interesting way enough worldwide population continues to grow despite the fact that the growth rate itself has been steadily declining the reason for this is the fact that there is still my. people living

president musharraf is exactly 10 years older than i am. the volume of what he's worked into his 68 years so surpasses my 58 years. let me give you a [inaudible] that volume. so born in 1943. that's four years before the great partition of india and pakistan. president musharraf's earliest memories were being on that night train traveling to pakistan as it was being created as a country. they arrived, lived with 18 people in a two-room apartment. the family moved to ankara, turkey, where president musharraf learned turkish. he came back and was not a model citizen in high school. he created -- i have three teenage boys, something i don't -- i'm not favorably disposed to -- small time bombs during his high school years. then was in the military, career military, was chief of the army staff, the 13th chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, and then, in an odd and surprising bloodless coup, became ceo and then president of pakistan. there have been six assassination attempts. he has fought in two wars. he is in one marriage, two daughters, two

folks this is crosstalk that means you can jump in anytime you want i very much encourage it but first musharraf where does the world stand right now with seven billion people and still counting today's world population is double what it was in one thousand nine hundred fifty seven and seven times what it was only two centuries ago by mid century a projected growth will put that figure at nine point three billion people concerns are mounting that such sustained expansion of the humankind threatens to run dry this planet's already overstretched resources. the business as usual scenario predicts that humanity will be using renewable resources and land at the rate of two planets each year by twenty thirty and just over two point eight planets each year by two thousand and fifty in addition to medical progress and higher agricultural productivity fertility start to be the main driver of population interesting we enough worldwide population continues to grow despite the fact that the growth rate itself has been steadily declining the reason for this is the fact that there is still more. people living

folks this is cross talk that means you can jump in anytime you want i very much encourage it but first musharraf where does the world stand right now seven billion people and still counting today's world population is double what it was in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven and seven times what it was only two centuries ago by my fancher a projected growth figure at nine point three billion people concerns are mounting that such sustained expansion of the humankind threatens to run dry this planet's already overstretched resources. the business as usual scenario predicts that humanity will be using renewable resources and land at the rate of two planets each year by twenty thirty and just over two point eight planets each year by twenty fifty in addition to medical progress and higher agricultural productivity fertility is thought to be the main driver of population interesting re enough worldwide population continues to grow despite the fact that the growth rate itself has been steadily declining and the reason for this is the fact that there is still more people living in countries with a

closer to his son mushy who disappeared one year before gilad shalit was taken hostage we are modern no musharraf sub this border and over again the government and the country are not doing enough for marty neither is the media you know his dog gave to do so here and there are at the moment seven israeli soldiers who've been kidnapped or who are missing in action nazmi son mash disappeared while hitchhiking to his army base major want to ride was captured twenty five years ago off his it cost was shutdown of lebanon these are the last pictures of him alive taken in a prison in iran guy have a disappeared fourteen years ago he was last seen at his army base one kilometer from the. in border. it's own through eating it's an acceptable that after fourteen years the government still has nothing to tell us our demand is that the government bring us any information alive dead here in lebanon and syria just bring it but they've brought us nothing. close to certain her son is still alive and while she's pleased gilad is coming home she's disillusioned in her government that made it possible for him but n

with that let me ask you to welcome general musharraf. [applause] >> [inaudible] of my apologies for being late. may i express my gratitude to georgia and the carnegie endowment for international peace for having invited me. i would like to get straight on to the subject and i will speak about the region and about pakistan and must cover obviously the united states relations which have achieved some kind of criticality of the moment. .. which believed in containment of the soviet and created a pakistan because the soviet union was trying to get to the ocean through pakistan. there was a collusion of the u.s. and pakistan interest and therefore fighting against the soviet union. we decided to launch a jihad. jihad is a holy war. and when i say we, the united ud states and also pakistan in the lead role decided to launch a jihad, a holy war, for the reason of attracting mujahideen holy warriors from all over the muslim world and may i say we succeeded in growing about 25,000 to 30,000 mujahideen from the whole -- from the muslim world exten

so with that let me ask you to welcome general musharraf. [applause] [speaking foreign language] >> excuse me for being late. i was held back at the hill. so with that let me express my gratitude to george and the carnegie endowment of international peace for having invited me and speaking to you. without much adieu i'd like to talk about the subject and i will speak about our region and about pakistan. and within that i must cover the united states-pakistan relations which have achieved some kind of critcalt at this moment. speaking of south asia, i'd like to talk about a little bit of history from 1979 onward because sometimes our memories are short and we forget about what happened in the region. so that will be the case for what we ought to be doing and what we have now. i will take on the period of 1979 first of all. it was 1979 when soviet union invaded afghanistan and occupied afghanistan. and this created a violation of u.s. policy which believed in containment of soviet expansion and created an army in pakistan because the soviet un

with that, let me ask you to welcome general musharraf. [applause] >> my profound apologies for being late. i was held back. with that, may i express my gratitude to george and the carnegie endowment for international peace for giving me this opportunity to speak to such an august gathering. i will get to the subject. i will speak about our region and about pakistan. within that, i must cover the united states-pakistan relations, which have achieved some kind of criticality at this moment. i would like to start with recalculating history from 1979 onward. sometimes our memories are short and we forget what has happened in the region. that will be the case for what we are doing and what we have now. i will take the time from 1979 to 1989. it was 1979 when the soviet union invaded pakistan and occupied afghanistan. this created a violation of u.s. policy, which believes in containment of soviet expansion. the soviet union was trying to get to the warm waters of the indian ocean through pakistan. there was a collision of u.s. and pakistan int

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because musharraf was more useful to us in his previous role? >> guest: i'm going to answer that two ways. was a strategic error for the united states? yes. do politicians in control and the united states differ from politicians elsewhere in the world? no. what do i mean by that? they are interested in what is good for them and habits to be good for united states, that's terrific. if it happens not to be good for the united states but it is good for them, that, too, is terrific. so their calculation is how do my constituents respond to this? not how does france strategy, but how do my constituents react? my constituents don't like our backing military dictators. so they're going to react to promote the policy. >> host: so sticking with pakistan for a bit here, there is a popularly elected government in pakistan. backed by the military, generally to really run the show. does that model still fit your theory? i mean, can you have essentially a front man? can you have somebody out there who is the person with whom the united states deals directly,

we said join the winning side which they seemed to do, under musharraf. then we have seen everything since. it's been more than troubling. you wonder whether that is not weakest of all the allies we have in terms of actual security arrangements. >> i think what we're reaching out towards or groping towards is a different kind of relationship which is not an alliance. it's a relationship of convenience. we will be with you when we see certain behaviors and we will not be with you if you don't perform. >> it's not so easy to finlandi finlandize pakistan, though. you have to find -- i think all americans want one thing out of pakistan, not to blow anything up. just don't use the nuclear weapons. that's what we want. it's a completely negative notion out of your country. don't cause harm. we trust the military

we said join the winning side which they seemed to do, under musharraf. then we have seen everything since. it's been more than troubling. you wonder whether that is not weakest of all the allies we have in terms of actual security arrangements. >> i think what we're reaching out towards or groping towards is a different kind of relationship which is not an alliance. it's a relationship of convenience. we will be with you when we see certain behaviors and we will not be with you if you don't perform. >> it's not so easy to finlandi finlandize pakistan, though. you have to find -- i think all americans want one thing out of pakistan, not to blow anything up. just don't use the nuclear weapons. that's what we want. it's a completely negative notion out of your country. don't cause harm. we trust the military generally,

. >> on wednesday former pakistani president pervez musharraf spoke at carnegie. he stepped down in 2008 and plans to run for re-election in 2013. this is about an hour and 15 minutes. >> it's worthwhile because few countries have been as important to each other as the u.s. and pakistan have been since the early 1950's. and yet as anyone who reads the paper or watches the news knows the importance of u.s.-pakistan relations does not make it satisfactory to either country, nor does the importance mean the two governments trust each other. in washington the feeling is that the relationship in the past was broken because pakistan pursued interests and activities it knew were contrary to u.s. interests as in the nuclear program in the 1980's and that washington would have to hold back. in pakistan it's felt increase i will that the united states is a fair weather friend and it has abandoned pakistan before and it will again. we see a similar tension here today in the relationship and discourse between the two, a concern that in fact the interests are contrary enough t

president musharraf is the most popular person in the world. we saw relations being strong. you were publicly supportive of president bush and supportive of the united states and the war on terror and responding to billion dollars in securities. roll forward to today and the poll in pakistan shows that united states is viewed as the number 1 and external threat to the country. if you talk to u.s. policy- makers, there is a very acute concern about the way pakistan is going and whether it is a good ally. it seems that the best thing we could understand is what went wrong? when your president, did you already see the relation slipping away between the united states and pakistan? >> now they are, yes. in my time, there is no doubt in my mind we had a degree of trust and confidence. i believe relations between states have quite a lot to do with interpersonal relations. interstate relations have a lot to do with interpersonal relations between the leaders. i would like to proudly say that i had a relationship with president bush and colin powell. there were no doubts or misunders

. >> many meetings in the white house -- general musharraf is doing a round. he's saying -- >> not that i'm aware but i don't know. >> thank you. >>> i don't want every story to be 1800 words. >>> next a look at the 2012 election with former vermont governor and dnc chairman howard dean. from this morning's washington journal, this is 40 minutes. >> host: coming up here in just about two seconds is governor deane, howard dean, former presidential candidate, and former dnc chairman. he now joins us from burlington, vermont. governor dean, how do you think the president is doing? >> guest: am i the perfect anecdote? >> host: you couldn't be better. [laughter] >> guest: i think the president has been doing great since the job speech. he's out there talking about -- he's got everything down to three words which is what you have to do. pass this bill, and we can't wait, he's doing great. he's out there and his numbers are getting better he's leading in ohio which is a very important state for us. so, you know, who can complain? >> host: governor dean, you said sinc

[laughter] we move forward to 2004, there is apoll taken, president musharraf is the most popular president in the world. you were publicly supportive of president bush, of the united states and the war on timber. we were spending $2 billion in security pete -- or on a terror. we were spending two billion dollars on security. a poll in pakistan shows that the united states is viewed as the number won a security threat on the country. there is concern about the way pakistan is going and whether it is a good outlet. the best thing we can understand is what went wrong? when you were president, did you already see the relation slipping away between the united states and pakistan? >> now they are, yes. in my time, there were no doubt in my mind, we had a degree of constant confidence. the relations between states have a lot to do with interpersonal relations between the leaders. i had a relationship with president bush and colin powell. when there were any doubts or misunderstandings, we could bring up each other and talk directly. as colin powell is to say, let us talk gentleman to gentleman. i

after 9/11 won the musharraf regime sided with the u.s., some of these groups stayed intact and some of them splintered. we have had the rise of new groups and we have splinter factions and freelancers and small networks coming together. sometimes these groups have names. sometimes these groups are just named after the individual who got 15 or 20 people to gather but those people have been able to launch an attack within pakistan trying to unravel these networks and get a sense of the degree to which they are working with a one another and they're competing with one another is very important. it gives us a window into the challenges pakistanis to our facing and the actions that are taking as well as the barriers to action. and strategic interests that have in the region in india and afghanistan and their own concerns about not in fleming the insurgency that is taking place on their soil. host: republican caller, you are next. caller: could you elaborate more on the pakistan-india relations considering their past and how they got where they are today and how we have played a part in t

. >> you have on the book you have endorsements from george bush 41 and the musharraf, the former president of pakistan and even one from charlie wilson. tell me about your relationship with charlie. shrouded in mystery. from the movie, it looks like a very definite romance. >> it was, charlie asked me to marry him, ultimately. charlie was very different from what people sort of think about him. he, at first, he was brilliant, but he was very romantic. one night we were at dinner and charlie excused himself and came back with a contents of a whole flo flower shop and put them all around the table. at the same time, vernon jordan was playing footsie with an english lady, you know, as in lord and lady. it was a very interesting evening. >> you thought tom hanks portrayed charlie very well in the movie. >> brilliantly. in fact, i saw them on the hill and i thought it was charlie and i said, isn't that charlie? they said, no, no, that's tom. he had even mastered his walk and the way he stood. tom is brilliant. >> you had a relationship with them and julia roberts. >> both were wonderful to meet