and soon the tea party became dick armey's dick armey. well, i don't see any reason why we in the colbert superpac can't become playas with the wall street occupyyas by throwing our cash around. so recently i went down there to make them an offer i couldn't refuse. last night i showed you part one. tonight, in a surprise twist, part two. (laughter) jim? >> previously on stephen colbert occupies occupy wall street. i went deep undercover in zucotti park and i met two young rebels-- justin and ketchup. i invited them to my penthouse suite and offered to co-opt the movement for their own well-being. (laughter) i worry about you especially, justin. ketchup can take care of herself. she's tough. i'm not worried about ketchup. she looks like she can take some punishment. you, justin, you i'm worry about. you're fragile. let me be your sugar daddy. and now dramatic conclusion of my co-occupation. you have something i want. i'll be open. you have a movement. i wanted in on the tea party but i dragged my feet and dick armey jumped on it with freed

and soon the tea party became dick armey's dick armey. well, i don't see any reason why we in the colbert surpac can't become playas with the wall street occupyyas by throwing our cash around. so recently i went down there to make them an offer i couldn't refuse. last night i showed you part one. tonight, in a surprise twist, part two. (laughter) jim? >> previously on stephen colbert occupies occupy wall street. i went deep undercover in zucotti park and i met two young rebels-- justin and ketchup. i invited them to my penthouse suite and offered to co-opt the movement for their own well-being. (laughter) i worry about you especially, justin. ketchup can take care of herself. she's tough. i'm not worried about ketchup. she looks like she can take some punishment. you, justin, you i'm worry about. you're fragile. let me be your sugar daddy. and now dramatic conclusion of my co-occupation. you have something i want. i'll be open. you have a movement. i wanted in on the tea party but i dragged my feet and dick armey jumped on it with freedom

armey who's a former house majority leader. >> dick armey of freedom works who is a tea party founder said "our objective is to take over the republican party." >> stephen: see? big swinging dick armey gave the tea partyers the cash and the organization they needed to take over the republican party. so for all occupy wall street has taken over is the bathroom at starbucks. (laughter) well, if armey's political action committee can cooperate the tea party, i say why can't colbert superpact co-opt occupy sweet in (cheers and applause) it's a win-win. okay? these guys down here, they get a political player with deep pockets to help them reach the next level and i get a nationwide army to spread their message of my message. (laughter) it's a natural fit, folks. remember, i was very angry at wall street two years ago. >> let's go get a.i.g.! whoo! folks, two years later i am still, you know, mad at them. (laughter) stop it, you guys, seriously. stop it. we're going to give you a flat tax, watch out. (laughter) , so folks, recently i went down to occupy wall street to offer them this exciti

i wanted in on the tea party but i dragged my feet and dick armey jumped on it with freedom works and i feel like a tool for not getting a piece of that. what do i need to do? whatever whatever it is, any boots on the ground on this one? >> i don't think we can give that to you, stephen. >> stephen: you're not going to give it to me, i'm going to pay for it. >> it's not about your money. it's about the thing we're trying to build here and it doesn't require your superpac money. >> stephen: excuse me, i'm sorry. oh, hey, come on in. hey, everybody, this is yoshi.

>>neil: dick armey, good to see you. thank you, my friend. now the guy that got this debt crisis going, senator simpson. i cast blame on both sides and am reluctant to leave the key talking points which means we are not going to have a deal by thanksgiving and we might not even have the automatic backup deal which is really kind of a mamby-pamby backup. >>guest: i know dick and she a strong guy and powerful if his views but he is right if you get rid of ethanol which coburn did, who is one of his, i think, backers, and he got rid of that and $6 billion and norquist, and i am not obsessed with him, and he is as much a smart alec as i, and when he called coburn's activity, there, a tax increase, and coburn used the word ludicrous, i used word "deceptive," and i will continue to use that. you cannot get where we have to go by taxing your way out of this baby or cutting spending your way out of this baby. you have to have a plan. we worked for ten months on this baby, they are grappling with it. i note pain they are going law, they are fearful, t

armey and the koch brothers pretty much doesn't exist anymore now the ninety nine percent movement is in the streets and they don't want austerity and want jobs they want economic security and health care and a good education it's time to create a super committee if that's the you know maybe it's all of congress to accomplish these new. cording to a new study you're better off watch the no news than g.o.p. t.v.'s up so called news anyone surprised harley davidson university surveyed new jersey residents about the uprisings in the middle east and turns out people who get their news from fox are eighteen points less likely to know the simple fact that egyptians overthrew their government compared to people who watch absolutely no use whatsoever similar results were seen when fox viewers were asked questions about the syrian uprising as well as all the chatter about the muslim brotherhood over g.o.p. t.v. distracted viewers from the actual news taking place so is it about time to strip the word news from fox and just call it never heard it really is what roger ailes called it when he fir

armey and all that it looked to me like this nation was going to flip hard right in fact as the result of this economic crisis he had the paul ryan budget for example shredding the social safety nets you have the republicans fighting financial regulation all of this stuff looked to me like a right wing populist but a right wing populist. which is what germany and spain italy saw after the great depression of the one nine hundred thirty s. and one thousand twenty's and thirty's and then along came occupy wall street and with occupy wall street it's another populists revolt as it were but this time it's not hard right i'd say it's middle left and occupy wall street is people reaching out saying you know we're not going to bail out the banks and we're not going to have any you know basically anybody running our lives anymore and an eighteen year old student can now back down the republican governor of kansas who used to be a very powerful senator frankly i think we might be spared that right wing takeover and we could see so some really good times coming to this country as a consequence o

armey and all that it looked to me like this nation was going to flip right hard right in fact as the result of this economic crisis we had the paul ryan budget for example shredding the social safety nets you had the republicans fighting financial regulation all of this stuff looked to me like a right wing populist but a right wing populist which is what germany and spain italy saw after the great depression of the one nine hundred thirty s. the one thousand twenty's and thirty's and then along came occupy wall street and with occupy wall street it's another populist revolt as it were but this time it's not hard right i'd say it's middle left an occupy wall street is people reaching out saying you know we're not going to bail out the banks and we're not going to have any you know basically anybody running our lives in email. and eighteen year old student can now back down the republican governor of kansas who used to be a very powerful senator frankly i think we might be spared that right wing takeover and we could see so some really good times coming to this country as a consequence

armey and the koch brothers pretty much doesn't exist anymore now the ninety nine percent movement is in the streets and they don't want austerity and want jobs they want economic security and health care and a good education it's time to create a super committee if that's the you know maybe it's all of congress to accomplish these new rules. according to a new study you're better off watch a no news than g.o.p. t.v.'s perhaps so called news anyone surprised farly dickinson university surveyed new jersey residents about the uprisings in the middle east and turns out people who get their news from fox are eighteen points less likely to know the simple fact that egyptians overthrew their government compared to people who watch absolutely no news whatsoever similar results were seen when fox viewers were asked questions about the syrian uprising as well as all the chatter about the muslim brotherhood over g.o.p. t.v. distracted viewers from the actual news taking place so it isn't about time to strip the word news from fox and just call a network what it really is what roger ailes called

armey his lobbying firm and the koch brothers. so that's my knowledge george soros has written five cents for the checks for this thing that i mean that they didn't we just have a minute question given that this p.r. firm has come out give us three quarters of a million bucks and we'll destroy the movement is this the beginning of the dirty tricks i'm afraid that it could be because you're looking at something that groups are coming in and saying hey we'll help you get rid of them just pay it for nothing but and on the left people didn't bury the ninety nine percent movement has been very resistant to astroturfing which i think is their permanent i think people that movement it is not led by outside organizations coming in to rearrange it and the fact that you're looking at these groups that are willing pour millions into a polling thing down i think it could start turning into a bad thing for the ninety nine percent movement very last we keep our eyes wide open and point of those happens jay commander going to say thank you thank

on the right we have the tea party movement that has been heavily funded by multimillionaires like dick armey his lobbying firm and the koch brothers on the left so that's my knowledge george soros has written five cents where the checks for those things that i mean like if they didn't we just have a minute left question given that this p.r. firm has come out give us three quarters of a million bucks and we'll destroy the movement is this the beginning of the dirty tricks i'm afraid that it could be because you're looking at something that groups are coming in and saying hey we'll help you get rid of them just enough but on the left people been very with the ninety nine percent movement has been very resistant to astroturf which i think is their purview that i think people lead movement it is not led by outside organizations coming in to arrange it and the fact that you're looking at these groups that are willing for millions into opposing down that i think it could start turning into a bad thing for the ninety nine percent movement very unless we keep our eyes wide open and point of th

one of the men that helped put the whole thing together is dick armey. the former house majority leader from texas. welcome to the program, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> so -- let's talk about the tea party budget if you will. and how you would achieve this, details you would repeal health care reform in its teen tire -- entirety. education, commerce, hud. you would reduce or privatize the epa and the tsa. and end student loans. cut foreign aid. and you would also get rid of other programs and agencies like legal services and the small business administration and americorps. national endowment for the arts. with all due respect, in what washington are you going to get all of that done? how much of this is operational and how much is aspirational? >> well, actually all of it could be done if we had a conversation a congress that had the will to do it. when we put this together we had a meeting of some 250 activists and we talked this over. at the time they were forming the supercommittee and general feeling was -- among the group was these guys will

you see rick perry walking around with that index card and there's something that dick armey would did, as well, when he was in the congress and of course he's the grand dade of the tea party crowd in many ways. but i think the reality of the flat tax, and this is why it's so surprising that rick perry and herman cain are doing so well, because it raises taxes for middle americans, it so it' still this rally around the flat tax.t so it's surprising to me that there is still this rally around the flat tax. so it's surprising to me that there is still this rally around the flat tax.so it's surprising to me that there is still this rally around the flat tax. i don't know if people are paying attention, but it would certainly mean a tax hike for people who spend money on the grocery store and on consumer goods. it would certainly mean that they have a bigger tax burden. one of the things is that people want to simplify tax code and that's why you see folks on the hill talking about simplifying the tax coded now. but this idea that you can just have a flat tax, not only is it unrealistic in

armey and freedom works. is there any initiative to organize these people into a mass? >> im sure there are behind the scenes nicinitiatives, but the movement around the country has voiced their determination not to endorse candidates, not to get involved in the campaigns. they have not engaged in lobbying in congress. again, that makes it quite different. now, that may change. i'm sure that many members will take part in campaigns eventually, but i don't see the movement per se actually joining in the process in that kind of a partisan way. they've been super critical of democrats as well as republicans. that's one difference that the party, very much back republicans where this movement really has hit both parties. >> another interest fact is you mentioned there's sort of a constitution if you will, that the group is sort of written down a few ideals they want to strive for. can you talk about that? >> there's been demands from the media from the start that they issue a list of demands an of course, they ha

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dick armey, for instance, was also somebody who did these sorts of things. and, you know, there's a sort of technical definition that requires you to actually register as a lobbyist. that actually requires you to go up to capitol hill and have contact with individual members or their offices. this is really not what we're talking about here. these are people who are very much trying to influence policy, influence legislation but not in the kind of, you know, going up there and asking individual members to do you favors. >> when mr. gingrich did whatever it is he did for freddie mac, he has described it as historian services, which doesn't seem to square with the pay scale, but that is how he describes it. when he has done other consulting, for example, for pharmaceutical companies, with his health care group, is the -- is what is expected by the companies that are hiring him any different than what would be expected by hiring consulting and lobbying shop? obviously he's not setting up individual meetings with members of congress, but isn't he getting the sam

the koch brothers, americanssperity and dick armey's freedom works are among the big money donors supporting senate bill five. both sides are putting their money to work in the homestretch. governor kasich is trying to close the deal with this new commercial. >> give taxpayers a helping hand, we've asked government employees to cover a reasonable cost of their benefits. by joining together we will get people back to work. after all, we want our kids to chase their dreams right here in ohio. >> vote yes on issue 2. >> meanwhile, retired ohio supreme court judge andy douglas who is a republican has condemned senate bill 5. >> before the enactment of ohio's collective bargaining law in 1984, ohio for four years led the nation. in safety forces work stoppages. that is why we passed the collective bargaining law. the law has worked. it would be tragic for our communities to return to those dark days. that is what senate bill 5, if it becomes law, would do. to fully protect our citizens and our police officers and firefighters, senate bill 5 must be rejected. >> one week from today we'll find out

the koch brothers, americans for prosperity and dick armey's freedom works are among the big money donors supporting senate bill five. both sides are putting their money to work in the homestretch. governor kasich is trying to close the deal with this new commercial. >> give taxpayers a helping hand, we've asked government employees to cover a reasonable cost of their benefits. by joining together we will get people back to work. after all, we want our kids to chase their dreams right here in ohio. >> vote yes on issue 2. >> meanwhile, retired ohio supreme court judge andy douglas who is a republican has condemned senate bill 5. >> before the enactment of ohio's collective bargaining law in 1984, ohio for four years led the nation. in safety forces work stoppages. that is why we passed the collective bargaining law.ç the law has worked. it would be tragic for our communities to return to those dark days. that is what senate bill 5, if it becomes law, would do. to fully protect our citizens and our police officers and firefighters, senate bill 5 must be rejected. >> one week from today w

dick armey, for instance, was also somebody who did these sorts of things. and, you know, there's a sort of technical definition that requires you to actually register as a lobbyist. and that actually requires you to go up to capitol hill and have contact with individual members or their offices. this is really not what we're talking about here. these are people who are very much trying to influence policy, influence legislation, but not in the kind of, you know, going up there and asking individual members to do you favors. >> when mr. gingrich did whatever it is he did for freddie mac, he has described it as historian services, which doesn't seem to square with the pay scale, but that is how he describes it. when he has done other consulting, for example, for pharmaceutical companies, with his health care group, is the -- is what is expected by the companies that are hiring him any different than what would be expected by hiring consulting and lobbying shop? obviously he's not setting up individual meetings with members of congress, but isn't he getting th

armey. >> dick armey. >> you get them in the room. >> we had two professors running our ship -- >> and it comes with that territory. the vice president's wife is known as dr. jill biden, i mean, who does that? ph.d.s. >> well -- >> yeah -- >> my father's dr. brzezinski. >> i know. but most people don't refer to him only as dr. brzezinski. >> i'm just saying. >> the reality field is the best thing. >> i would much rather have a house of representatives run by community college graduate than a ph.d.. you'd be much better shape. hey, rich, thank you. >> thanks, rich. >> i hope you can come back. >> anytime. >> we'll see you next week. we shall return. this was the gulf's best tourism season in years. all because so many people wanted to visit us... in louisiana. they came to see us in florida... nice try, they came to hang out with us in alabama... once folks heard mississippi had the welcome sign out, they couldn't wait to get here. this year was great but next year's gonna be even better. and anyone who knows the gulf knows that winter is primetime fun time. the sun's out and the water'

i did say to dick armey who is basically at that point, he and newt gingrich and tom delay or in the oval office with the democrats, dick gephardt and bob dole and tom daschle watching the food fight unfold. i did say to dick armey when he was getting very macho with me -- [laughter] i tell them, you have to understand, i don't care if i go to 5% on opposed, you will have to get someone to sit behind that desk before you get this done. all the president's -- all the democrats were thrilled. all of our liberal base always thinks the president is going to cave. just like the conservatives are always afraid the republicans are going to cave. anyway, we had this meeting and then they left and the meeting was adjourned. the democrat's home around afterwards and they were all so happy. al gore looked at me and said, that was really great what you said, but i think you should have told him that you're going to hold out even if you when all the way to 0%. wattages top 5%? -- why did you stop at 5%? [laughter] and i said, how, if we get the 4%, i am going to cave. one lesson is that you have

i was a supporter of the flat tax on income but i saw it did not have a chance of passage when dick armey was talking about it, forbes ran for president on it. anything to replace the current tax code, i was for. i worked on the tax reform commission that jack kemp added appeared out of that commission came six principles replacement should satisfy. guess what? the national consumption tax, the fairtax, and the flat tax on income they satisfied the six principles. but the 13-person commission was deadlocked on which to recommend because they all had attributes and negatives. as a result, the commission decided to stay the principles and said in the report, which got put into a drawer, by the way, basically said that either one of those would satisfy the principles. for decades i have looked at both of them. i knew that they both offered some very positive benefits. the people who have supported a flat tax is for a long time feel very strongly about it. the people who supported the fairtax feel very strongly about it. one of the objectives was, let's get both of these groups to the table.