the debate, huntsman -- tina, huntsman showed up and he was mad. he was fighting. that was a new guy. >> that was a new guy. if only he could take a time machine back to the days of the rockefeller republican era, he would be a winner. but he is actually beginning to look very well informed. i do think new hampshire is a place he could make up this comeback -- well, he could actually launch himself finally. >> well, we actually have a bet. >> we do. >> dan senor and i have a bet. >> prime grill kosher steak. >> and that bet is what? >> i do not think huntsman will ever exceed his space right now in theç republican field. he's at about 2% in the polls, i don't think he'll catch on. >> you don't think he'll do better in new hampshire? >> might do a little better. >> he's not going to break out -- >> the bet was -- i just want to be clear on what the bet was. >> will he stay in single digits in new hampshire? >> yes. >> he'll stay in single digits? >> and won't finish top three. >> i want to double down. our entire families -- >> have you been to prime grill? the st

mary ann huntsman. libby huntsman. ladies, welcome. i can tell you you're already having a good effect here. i'm reading a tweet that says, thanks piers morgan, hubby just saw huntsman's angels and i lost a vote for herman cain. >> oh, my goodness. >> we're doing what we can. >> so let me turn to your father a moment. i mean, jon, they're a rather unusual trio of campaign operatives here who have been getting more and more publicity. are they a force for good or catastrophe in your campaign? >> watch it, dad. >> we'll have to let the historians deal with that one. i don't even want to hazard a guess. but here's a reality in my life, piers. i gave a major foreign policy speech on america's role in the world in the 21st century. i get five hits on youtube. the girls put up this corntial video spoofing another candidate's video. they get half a million views within 24 hours. and i say the world isn't fair. but i'm beginning to understand how political communication works these days. >> well, let me turn to mary ann first. mary ann, i love

he actually set up jon huntsman by asking him what exactly is your proposal, and that's where huntsman was able to tee off. >> well, also romney is using the old playbook, the old republican playbook with words like cut and run, trying to make is t seem somehow if you don't, quote, listen to the commanders in the field, that's the bush line, and i actually disagree with michael a little bit. i don't think that's really the obama line. i think romney is teeing up a possible attack on obama forgetting out of afghanistan too quickly in the fall, in the general election. i don't think it's a smart strategy for romney because the country has moved on. it's not the same hawkish mood. >> can i just make a point. the reason i began this conversation by saying the huntsman applause shows me where the country has moved. >> right. >> is exactly what you said a moment ago. >> i can remember that to ask on radio whether we should get out of iraq or afghanistan was heresy and i'd be inundated with callers saying you're not being supportive of troops as if to somehow plan for their safe return was no

hemos invitado hoy al candidato, ex gobernador del estado de utah, jon huntsman. comenzamos esta entrevista, que la llevÉ a cabo hace unos dÍas, hablando del desempleo y la economÍa. gracias por estar con nosotros en "enfoque". thank you for being with us. >>un honor estar aquÍ. gracias por tenerme. >>gobernador, el wallstreet journal ha dicho que su plan econÓmico es, de todos los candidatos, uno de los mÁs quizÁs bien pensado y fuerte. concretamente, ¿quÉ dice su plan econÓmico para arreglar esta crisis? >>el periÓdico wall streetta journal dice que es el mejor de todos, de todos los candidatos y lo que harÁ es inyectar confianza a una economÍa que lo necsita desesperadamente. nadie estÁ invirtiendo, nadie se esta moviendo y nadie estÁ empleando porque no hay confianza en el maÑana. asÍ que yo digo, cambiemos el cÓdigo de impuestos que estÁ roto y es anticuado. lo que hice como gobernador de utah, creÉ un sistema de impuestos Único para todos los residentes de mi estado. quiero eliminar las rebajas con un cÓdigo federal, quiero bajar las ta

huntsman. >> final question. jon huntsman. i mean, john, which candidate was cited by pew center for running the best managed state, held by "forbes" magazine as being the most fiscally fit and for jobs creation. >> i think that might be jon huntsman. >> mika, the bigger point here is when it comes to throwing this rhino title around this year, there is very little to do with the right. it has everything to do with are you like newt gingrich, willing to call the secretary of hss joseph stalin? are you like glenn beck going to pump up your cred by calling the president of the united states a racist? are you like newt gingrich going to say that democrats are run by the -- what was it, the secular socialist machine? newt gingrich said the democratic world view posed a greater risk to american democracy than nazism posed to the world. if you say that then you can support socialist positions because somehow your cred is okay. >> no. i think it's really -- >> facts be damned. it's twisted. >> it's self-destructive and why obama will

>>> jon huntsman was president g . [ dad ] i love this new soup. it's his two favorite things in one... burgers and soup. did you hear him honey? burgers and soup. love you. they're cute. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> jon huntsman was president obama's ambassador to china, he's also running for president. jon huntsman, before we get stuck into the gop race, i just interviewed regarding iran's nuclear program. as far as he's concerned, all very, very peaceful. nothing to worry about. what was your reaction? >> complete nonsense. he's a first-rate propagandist. whether it's the iaea reports, intelligence estimates, people who are knowledgeable and in the know have to say about iran's aspirations, but moreover when with you couple their aspirations with the kind of language and threats they have used in the region, it makes for a very dangerous and incendiary combination. so when you stop to consider that they've got thousands of centrifuges that are spinning out of which they're going to at some point have highly enrich

john huntsman plan is essentially identical to what joe he biden was proposing a couple of years ago so maybe the governor is still working for the administration. look, you talk to generals pan especially people at the kernel level who have been deployed to afghanistan and they tell you the counterterrorism, the counterterrorism strategy can't work unless you also have a counter-insurgencesy strategy. if you can't secure large provinces like kandahar, like hellman, you're going to find a vulnerable population and it's going to be susceptible to taliban reprizeals and it's not going to cooperate with your forces. >> jason, politically john huntsman must feel that this has resonance, even among republican primary voters, is that working for him. >> among primary voters it might. in the general election, i'm not sure. the fact of the matter is, obama has done some good things on the policy and continued a lot of the bush administration policies and the drone strikes and we've gotten bin laden. as a political strategy i'm not sure this is the way to go for the republican candidates. >>

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he actually set up jon huntsman by asking him what exactly is your proposal, and that's where huntsman was able to tee off. >> well, also romney is using the old playbook, the old republican playbook with words like cut and run, trying to make it seem like somehow if you don't, quote, listen to the commanders in the field, that's the bush line. and i disagree with michael a little bit. i don't think that's really the obama line. i think romney is teeing up a possible attack on obama forget forgetting out of afghanistan too quickly. i don't think it's a smart strategy for romney because the country has moved on. it's not the same hawkish mood. >> can i just make a point. the reason i began this conversation by saying the huntsman applause shows me where the country has moved. >> right. >> is exactly what you said a moment ago. >> i can remember that to ask on radio whether we should get out of iraq or afghanistan was heresy and i'd be inundated with callers saying you're not being supportive of troops as if to somehow plan for their safe return was not to have their best interest at hea

what is the secret jon huntsman like. >> careful. >> well, he's very honest. i think that's rare to see today in the field. he goes with his luck. if you look, he doesn't pander. if you look at his record, it's very conservative and i just think that he's a true leader and i think the american public is just starting to get to know him and abby, one of the charges against your dad is that he's boring. is he boring? >> not at you will. where do you think we get our humor from? from him, honestly. >> jon, three great defenses from your daughters. but when it comes to new hampshire, when it comes to this big vote, you're not going to win just because you have three appealing daughters, are you? what is it about you that is going to turn you around? you've put all of your chips on this hole and you've got to win there. what is the one thing that is going to drive you past mitt romney? >> new hampshire loves an underdog. they don't like to be told for whom to vote. they like the candidate to earn it based upon core beliefs and a message right for our nation at this

jon huntsman need add strong debate performance last night, which he got. reaching out to independent voters up in new hampshire. question is, is it a little too late for him to do so? >> quickly, can't let you go. you were at the debate last night. i want to know, when herman cain called wolf blitzer blitz instead of wolf and then corrected himself, was it as good in person as on televisions? because we awe loll loved wagin >> reporter: great. the pregnant pause between when he said that, then he stopped and said, oh, i'm sorry. the best part, wolf came back and says, thank you, cain as opposed to saying mr. cain ca. . very funny point in the campaign. >>> the democratic perspective on the debate when we're joined by dnc chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz. >>> jon huntsman sparked debate, you saw, saying we immediate to pull u.s. troops out of afghanistan right away. we're going to ask the former utah governor about that plan and also how to be fair about last night's debate what did he think about that? we'll find out when he joins us. >> and three ameri

ambassador to china under president obama, jon huntsman. can a more moderate republican win the nomination in this political climate? finally, it's our political roundtable. unanswered question where does the cain story go from here? is there a parallel to the clarence thomas saga as some conservatives allege? plus what are the leadehip lessons president obama could learn from president kennedy? with us, author of the new book "jack kennedy: elusive hero," "hardball" host, chris matthews. politico's reporter covering the cain story, maggie haberman. "wall street journal" columnist kim strassel and republican strategist, alex castellanos. >>> good morning. exactly one year to election day 2012, as republicans battle for the right to take on president obama, and there's a new side this morning to the sexual harassment accusations against republican presidential front-runner herman cain. first reported one week ago, may, in fact, be affecting his standings with voters. a new online reuters/ipsos poll released just th morning shows mr. cain's f

you have gingrich and huntsman. gingrich first, huntsman last. in a way, the first part of that equation should give you hope because it wasn't too long ago, just this summer, governor, when former house speaker was -- for house speaker was down in the single digits himself, right? >> that's exactly right. this race is so fluid and so much influx that we've seen everybody spike and go down. everybody gets 15 minutes of fame. i don't 15 minutes of fame. all i want is a substantive predictable rise like in new hampshire, then i want sustainability. sustainability is based upon putting forward ideas that are real. ideas that are tied to our biggest problems of today, which are economic and their trust. we have a financial deficit and a trust deficit in this country and it's about sharing a vision that is tied to your background, which is being e maersked in public service and private business in ways that have proven results. i have no doubt about what's going to happen in new hampshire. new hampshire's moving up for us and will continue to move up

if huntsman can't win where he says he can, he loses. >> huntsman isn't going anywhere anyway. if he wins new hampshire, we are talking an entirely new dynamic in the race. >> let me go to john. john, what do you think? let's talk about the moderates, romney and huntsman. one will probably win there. it's probably romney. what if that doesn't happen? >> if somehow he wins iowa and somehow new hampshire does what it does often and hands new hampshire someone other than romney, i think he could still survive that. if he loses in iowa, doesn't come in first and loses new hampshire, he will be crippled and won't be able to be the nominee. jon huntsman needs to win for the reasons you said. it's possible a very, very strong second comes into play. >> let's go south with you, john. south carolina has been the king maker since the party went south and became a southern based party. who has to win there? it seems to be perry and cain have to do well among the baptists. >> neither one of them is going to be competitive in new hampshire. for both of them, south carolina, they are regiona

>> huntsman by far. he is unsure what it can it, he has had experience abroad -- he has a surefooted candidate, he has had experience abroad. newt gingrich professes to know something about everything, and he doesn't. in the case of mitt romney, and he works is talking points well, but there is no depth there. jon huntsman by a mile. >> your only choices are the people on that stage. with with a piece and its would you be comfortable as president? >> that is part, because i don't think any of them will do what they say that they will do -- >> and if they did, would you support them? >> on the things i worry about, no. >> yes, let's get that straight. >> i guess i am with colby, and romney does not scare me as much as some of the other people who seem to just not be thinking. >> mark? >> herman cain -- can be done with him? he was silly, he was and vacuous at the debate. is there consensus on that on the panel? i want to bring harmony in this time of thanksgiving. i guess that ron paul i found at the most

that's central to jon huntsman's strategy. there is a pro-jon huntsman super pact aided in part by his wealthy father and this spending hundreds of thousands of dollars. it's all about new hampshire for jon huntsman for first contest is iowa. jon huntsman has hits sights focused on the granite state. >> still a lot more to go, mark. thanks for joining us. >>> in egypt the death toll now stands at 22 after a weekend of violent clashes between protesters and security forces. still thousands of protesters turned out again today in cairo's iconic tahrir square calling for an end to the military's total grip on the country. activists are demanding the military turn over power to a civilian-led government. richard engel is in cairo. richard, i was reading there is a real fear amongst the civilian population of the military don't want to give any power bark to the people. is that what are you hearing on the ground and how much fear is there from the people they are essentially trading one dictatorship for another? >> reporter: well,

what could change for jon huntsman? >> i think mika's point is right and that's his best hope that people will see -- clearly people want a clear choice between romney and someone else, at least to see whether they want to actually nominate governor romney. and right now the stage is full of people who represent niche constituencies, if you will, like freddie mac. and other -- and the pizza lobbyists and so forth. so you have the "star wars" bar scene issue. and what we've seen in this cycle is the momentary rises. you know, everybody gets a chance to be choice "b" to romney and huntsman's chance hasn't come yet perhaps he's going to be last in this, it'll be close to the actual caucusing and voting in new hampshire. and maybe the timing works where if everybody's getting to pitch stuff for people to look at him, maybe his time -- >> he is literally moving to new hampshire. >> right. >> where he'll spend the next five or six weeks. his biggest problem clearly in retro spect he never factored into his campaign, never fac

plus, jon huntsman not in tears, during his cameo on "snl," what does this guy have to do to get above 3% in the polls? we'll watch the clip later. first the nurse live at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock. officials in new york city say they've stopped a terrorist bomb plot, targeting police stations, post offices and u.s. troops returning from overseas. this morning, jose pimentel, a naturalized u.s. citizen and an alleged al qaeda sympathizer is being held without bail. the nypd says he was on the verge of completing at least three bombs. the 27-year-old was arrested on saturday, police say he was putting the finishing touches on one of those devices. he had been under surveillance for years after unknowingly communicating with a police informant. although he allegedly talked about going to yemen for terror training, mayor michael bloomberg said the suspect was acting alone. >> the suspect was a so-called lone wolf. motivated by his own resentment of the presence of american troops in iraq and afghanistan, as well as inspired by al qaeda propaganda. he was not part of a larger conspiracy emanati

does huntsman have to win to stay in this race? >> he has to come in second, third, or fourth. >> i say bachmann's out if she can't win in iowa. i think santorum's out anyway if he loses out there, and probably will lose. i think if huntsman can't win where he says he has to win, he loses. >> well, you know, for heaven sakes, huntsman isn't going anywhere anyway. >> if he wins new hampshire. >> if he wins new hampshire, then we're talking an entirely new dynamic in this race. >> let me go to john. what do you think? let's talk about the two moderates. mitt romney and jon huntsman. one of them will probably win up there, it's probably mitt romney. what happens if that doesn't happen? >> well, i think it depends on what happens in iowa, chris. if mitt romney wins iowa and then somehow new hampshire does what it does often and hands new hampshire to someone other than mitt romney because they don't want to coronet him, i think rid romney could still survive that. i think if mitt romney loses in iowa and doesn't come in first and then

ambassador to china under president obama, jon huntsman. can a more moderate republican win the nomination in this political climate? finally, it's our political roundtable. unanswered questions. where does the cain story go from here? is there a parallel to the clarence thomas saga as some conservatives allege? plus what are the leadership lessons president obama could learn from president kennedy? with us, author of the new book "jack kennedy: elusive hero," "hardball" host, chris matthews. politico's reporter covering the cain story, maggie haberman. "wall street journal" columnist kim strassel and republican strategist, alex castellanos. >>> good morning. exactly one year to election day 2012, as republicans battle for the right to take on president obama, and there's a new side this morning to the sexual harassment accusations against republican presidential front-runner herman cain. first reported one week ago, may, in fact, be affecting his standings with voters. a new online reuters/ipsos poll released just this morning shows mr. ca

huntsman. and just ahead we'll talk to the washington bureau chief about the president's trip to asia and the u.s. strategy to counter a rising china. but first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> what people really don't know is barnicle probably would've preferred the high-heeled shoes like you got. so -- sorry, mikey. with love from a distance. let's give you your forecast for the weekend. windchills up on the eastern sea board, this is going to be short-lived. we're going to warm up nicely through the weekend. we have a little bit of snow to talk about over the weekend. if you love skiing in jackson hole, wyoming, you're going to get some fresh powder over the next 24 hours. a little bit of snow through south dakota and minnesota. minneapolis not a lot for you, little more to your north. looking at friday's headlines, chilly air in the east half of the country. we're warming it up in the middle of the country and the eastern sea board. there's no huge storms out there. but the wes

we haven't talked about jon huntsman this morning. talked about the candidates that went up and down. huntsman sitting there at 7%, 8%, 9% in new hampshire polls. he's starting to go up on tv in a big way with the super packs. the business i'm hearing on the ground regarding his town hall meetings positive. he's knocking on doors, he's doing all the things that traditionally help you win in new hampshire. when i bring this up, people laugh say you're out of your mind. i actually -- i'm actually certain that unless something big comes out that huntsman's going to do well in new hampshire, probably finish second, probably finish in the 20s. what do you -- what do you get when you're up there? >> well, i'm going later today, i'll know more tomorrow than i know now. there are three things i think he needs to breakthrough. he needs a television ad to breakthrough. the first ad i don't have the sense broke through. the second thing he needs is a message that breaks through on the economy. and then he needs a performance that breaks through,

will it go to santorum or huntsman? >> from newt's experience can you have two times around so maybe rick perry -- >> i thought you were going to say three times around. >> you know, there is obviously a lot of volatility. there is an anti-establishment mood though, and i think that's part of why the dynamic is -- is changing so quickly, so, you know, gingrich can hold on to this as long as he seems somewhat unconventional. as soon as he becomes the former house speaker, he's in trouble, and i think that's romney's problem, too. as long as he is trying to play the conventional route, go to the general election strategy, talk about obama, not anyone else, that's a problem. people want the fire in the belly, the volatility, the anti-washington mood, and romney's just looking too conventional. >> joe williams, listen to this. former arkansas governor mike huckabee was interviewed over the weekend on a conservative radio program, not endorsing any candidate yet, but he urged conservatives not to turn their backs on romney i

i think if huntsman can't win where he says he can, he'll lose. >> for heavens sakes, huntsman isn't going anywhere any way. it he wince new hampshire, we're talking an entirely new dynamic in this race. >> you don't think so in. >> no. >> mitt romney and john huntsman, one will probably win up there, probably mitt romney. what happens if this doesn't happen? >> if somehow mitt romney wins iowa and then somehow new hampshire does what it does often and hands new hampshire to someone other than mitt mift because they don't want to core on eight him, i think mitt romney could survive them. if mitt romney loses in iowa and then loses in new hampshire, he will be crippled and won't be the nominee. john huntsman must win new hampshire for the reasons you said. maybe it's possible a very, very strong second place keeps him on the race. >> you pick it up here, john. south carolina has been the kingmaker for the republicans ever since the party went south and become a southern-based party. who has to win down there to city in the race. it seems perry and cain have to do incredibly well there