we'll hear from former rnc chairman michael steele. he's weighing in on the latest explosive allegations against herman cain. stay tuned. this is "the ed show" live from columbus, ohio. wriac" 's ysta io dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic center recommends the custom-fit orthotic that's best for your tired feet. foot-care scientists are behind it. you'll get all-day relief. for your tired achy feet. for locations, see drscholls.com. thank you... >>> welcome back to "the ed show." on the night of an overwhelming defeat of issue 2 and a huge victory for workers' rights, it doesn't get any better than this. when it comes to the middle class workers. joining me now, larry handily, international president of the transit unit and jack reall, president of firefighters union local 67. congratulations. i know you put your heart and soul into this. a big victory and momentum for organized labor. no question. larry, your thoughts on what happened here tonight. >> first, ed, i obviously want to thank my members and all the members of all the unions

msnbc analyst, michael steele. thanks for your time tonight. two ahead, do you have one more comment? >> i agree with that. that's the correct analysis here. we have to get beyond it. the discipline has been broken. the party has a problem if this goes on. >> all right. micha michael, thanks for your time tonight. i appreciate it. >>> the latest results here in ohio. over 450,000 votes have been counted. yes on issue 2 is at 36%. no on issue 2 is at 64%. senate bill 5 has made john kasich one of the most unpopular governors in the united states. and he still has three more years to go. state senator nina taylor will weigh in on kasich's future, next. >>> and we have a great crowd of middle classers here in columbus, ohio. they get the final say tonight. stay tuned. we're right back. ♪ sen♪ co-signed her credit card - "buy books, not beer!" ♪ ♪ut the second at she shut the door ♪ ♪ girl started blowing up their credit score ♪ ♪ she bought a pizza party for the whole dorm floor ♪ ♪ hundred pounds of makeup at the makeup store

michael steele, i want to play a sound bite. this is newt gingrich during a debate, the bloomberg debate talking about barney frank. take a listen. >> i think it's perfectly reasonable for people to be angry. let's be clear who put the fix in. the fix is put in by the federal government. and if you want to put people in jail, you ought to start with barney frank and chris dodd and let's look at the politicians who created the environment, the politicians who profited from the environment, and the politicians who put this country in trouble. >> clearly you're not saying they should go to jail? >> well, in chris dodd's case, go back and look at the countryside deals, barney frank's case, look at the lobbyists who close to freddie mac. all i'm saying -- everybody in the media who wants to go after the business community ought to start by going after the politicians who have been at the heart of the sickness. >> michael steele, i'm going to ask you to do something that might be difficult, but maybe not. when he talks specifically a

joining me today former rnc chairman, michael steele, melissa harris-perry, a columnist for "the nation" and also an msnbc contributor, former d.c. mayor, adrian fenty is on set with us and meghan mccain, the newest msnbc contributor. welcome, meghan, there will be a commemorative tote bag when you leave today. luke russert always is with us. welcome to the show. >> always a pressure. >> david axlerod is a fan of the phrase kabuki theater as a description for the political maneuverings in washington. is this something we can use to describe what's been happening on the super committee for the last two weeks? was anybody serious about cutting a deal? >> when the whole process started, i spoke to members on both sides of the aisle, there

we'll hear from former rnc chairman michael steele. he's weighing in on the latest explosive allegations against herman cain. stay tuned. this is "the ed show" live from lumb b columbus, ohio. ♪ mama said there'd be days like this ♪ ♪ "there'll be days like this," mama said ♪ [ male announcer ] the toughest job on the planet just got a little easier. with one touch technology and even an air scrubber. the nissan quest. innovation for family. innovation for all. get up to $3,050 total savings on the 2011 nissan quest. ♪ try bayer advanced aspirin. it's not the bayer aspirin you know. it's different. first, it's been re-engineered with micro-particles. second, it enters the bloodstream fast, and rushes relief to the site of your tough pain. the best part? it's proven to relieve pain twice as fast as before. bayer advanced aspirin. test how fast it works for you. love it, or get your money back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." on the night of an overwhelming defeat of issue 2 and a huge victory for workers' rights, it doesn't

>> i learned that michael steele said be a cutter. >> what did you like? >> i want to congratulate my brother who is being sworn in as ambassador to sweden. >> whatever you say. congratulations. >> i learned that the lsu oregon championship game will be one for the ages. >> what are you talking about? >> it will be great. >> if oregon gets slapped over the field, get ready, we are going to new orleans and it will be y

>> i learned that michael steele said be a cutter. >> what did you like? >> i want to congratulate my brother who is being sworn in as ambassador to sweden. >> whatever you say. congratulations. >> i learned that the lsu oregon championship game will be one for the ages. >> what are you talking about? >> it will be great. >> if oregon gets slapped over the field, get ready, we are going to new orleans and it will be you and me.

he isn't really competing on the issues. >> but michael steele is mitt romney? the two people who have spent the least amount of time. the guy that has spept the most is rick santorum. he's at the end of the polls doing it the old way, the way you're supposed to supposedly do iowa. >> mitt is strong in iowa because he's organized, awesome on the ground. he's got some holdover from the last campaign. cain is strong in iowa because of everything we just talked about. >> josh green, you get out there and talk to some of these voters, why aren't they responding to romney yet? >> it is the same old things. he does have a segment pretty firm in polls. he got 25-26% of the vote in the caucuses in '08. he's at about 25% now. doesn't seem to be able to break beyond that. for some people because of health care. for some, because of his religion. others just don't trust him as a conservative. >> i want to play a sound bite from ron paul because he was asked a question which has been floating out there which is this idea he may not support the republican nominee and may act

thank you, michael steele, you may be right, about how bad of shape we are in. anyway, thank you, michael feldman, if lying is just okay. >> it's not lying, chris! come on, man, you know it's not lying. >> don't try to interpret me. i think this is a hell of a distortion. >>> anyway, herman cain didn't know china had nukes, he didn't know about neoconservatives, and he couldn't remember what happened to libya this year. now he's added to that sorry resume coming up next in the side show. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. as a t ares i'm do li of erhe >>> back to "hardball." now to the sideshow. first up, shut down. yesterday gop candidate rick perry challenged minority leader nancy pelosi to a debate. on his plan to completely overhaul washington. well, pelosi rsvp'd to the invite today, and as it turns out, she won't be in town. but listen to just how she turned down the texas governor. >> well, he did ask if i could debate here in washington on monday, it is my understanding that such a letter has come in. monday i'm going to be in portland in the morn

michael steele, he said this. told the "huffington post" i'm not going to go out here and blow you up and call on you to get out of the race. if you decide to stay in, the voters are going to let you know how they feel about that. this is serious. there are impacts and ramifications not just for hermman and his family, but for the party as a whole. sounds like he's very concerned. >> michael steele's political aclaimant, we know what it is, so who cares. the reality is, we were talking about this earlier. i'm not so sure it's a matter of what the vote rs will do, but it may be a family issue. >> you said in the next several days. >> i got to take, i got to deal with that. first of all, we're dealing with michael steele, was rnc chair. it's not like this is somebody saying whatever. he is giving cain strong advice. he's saying, this is over. forget you. this is now a party issue. you have been in this game now for several months. now it's down to the nitty-gritty, so if you are constantly the story and these affair

thank you, michael steele, you may be right, about how bad of shape we are in. anyway, thank you, michael feldman, if lying is just okay. >> it's not lying, chris! come on, man, you know it's not lying. >> don't try to interpret me. i think this is a hell of a distortion. >>> anyway, herman cain didn't know china had nukes, he didn't know about neoconservatives, and he couldn't remember what happened to libya this year. now he's added to that sorry resume coming up next in the side show. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. mine was earned over the south pacific in 1943. vietnam, 1967. i got mine in iraq, 2003. u.s.a.a. auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation, because it offers a superior level of protection and because u.s.a.a.'s commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. u.s.a.a. we know what it means to serve. your core competency is...competency. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle...and go.

. >> want to go to michael steele, former rnc chair, of course. good afternoon discipline this do it after we hear from this woman at 1:30? should we stick a fork in herman cain's campaign, michael? >> that depends on what she says. keep in mind, these are claims that are 12 years old, that they were brought and had been settled 12 years ago. the fact that they are up right now and part of the political dialogue, i think lends more to the fact that herman handled this a little sloppily coming out of the box. now that he's talked about this, he's opened up the door for these women when this particular woman had come out and state her side of the story. if he cuts a sympathetic cloth it's going to be a tough haul for him. >> i want to bring in karen finney, former dnc communications adviser. i'm going to pose the same question that i just posed to michael steele discipline this do it? i mean, up until now, the conversation has been, we haven't had names. we certainly haven't had faces and now we have a name. we'll get a name and a face at 1:30 and w

thank you, michael steele, you may be right, about how bad of shape we are in. anyway, thank you, michael feldman, if lying is just okay. >> it's not lying, chris! come on, man, you know it's not lying. >> don't try to interpret me. i think this is a hell of a distortion. >>> anyway, herman cain didn't know china had nukes, he didn't know about neoconservatives, and he couldn't remember what happened to libya today. now he's added to that sorry resume. that's coming up next in the sideshow. you're watching "hardball," only on msnbc. ♪ our machines help identify early stages of cancer, and it's something that we're extremely proud of. you see someone who is saved because of this technology, you know that the things that you do in your life matter. if i did have an opportunity to meet a cancer survivor, i'm sure i could take something positive away from that. [ jocelyn ] my name is jocelyn. and i'm a cancer survivor. [ woman ] i had cancer. i have no evidence of disease now. [ woman #2 ] i would love to meet the people that made the machines. i had such an amazi

michael steele. >> no more, please. no more. >> michael -- >> there are like four more. >> he said in the morning he was unaware of any settlements. >> yeah. >> a few hours later he describes in great detail his conversation with general counsel about the settlements. i don't understand how this man survives. we don't know about the underlying claims because nobody is talking about those. >> right. >> but just based on him lying throughout the day how does he survive in this primary process? >> it's going to be tough but i think a couple things. one, i think there is a reservoir of support for him that's going to stay with -- you know, i think that sentiment about the liberal media coming after him is misplaced actually. this is from like, i agree with mr. huckabee. this is from inside the gop. this is one of his rivals' camp getting this information but what is problematic is the fact that herman cain had a nine to ten-day runup to this story hitting the airwaves. and there was nothing done. there was no home work. the

ed rendell and michael steele dr. >> a man dade by any other name is still a mandate. and the gymnastics makes mare are lieu look like a. >> i love you, man. >> let's face it, your team gives you a hot hand to deal with, michael. >> thank you, al. >> thank you. >>> ahead, president obama's approval is surging as he ramps up the fight for the middle class. and something republicans did today will add more fuel to that fight. >>> plus fighting for his political life. our first look at the wave of action against wisconsin governor's scott walker. it's not good for him. >>> the fight for civil rights is going on right now in america. the harshest immigration law in the world is creating chaos in alabama. we ask for justice. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. this new at&t 4g lte is fast. hey, two tickets just opened up on the 50. ...yup, about to go pick them up from will call. so 46 seconds ago. did you guys hear that chapman rolled his ankle? done. get out there. so 12 seconds ago. you guys know how to post videos to facebook? you guys know how to post videos to

they have -- there are just as many democratic strategists. >> no, but again -- >> michael steele is nsnbc's idea of a republican. bob diikkmorris is fox's idea of a democrat. >> no. bob beckle. >> i guess dick morrrs. >> he's a conservative now. dick more sis is not a democrat anywhere. >> but he was. when dick morris started going on the programs he was still -- >> i think he already recanted. >> he was a former strategist. >> everybody understands where. >> can we agree that nsnbc should have paul ryan on and you should have sheila jackson leon. >> she comes on. she's invittd: >> but you make fun of her. >> no. the show that i'm on, bill o'reilly. bill actively tries to get every perspective oo. show, he's ffir. >> they call you culture warrior. you're o'reiily's -- >> i'm on his show -- >> would you go on the other shows? >> i woold do some of the other shows. >> is it good for american journal ifl or for the engagement level of the public -- i would grant you msnbc ann fox, there's not much different in the way ttey do their jobs. they both approach the stuff the same way. is it

. >>> just ahead for the interview tonight is michael moore. also, michael steele is on his way. stay with us. >>> i believe i have a good sense for where you cross the line relative to sexual harassment. >> live free or die. victory or death. bring it. >> if more allegations come, i assure you people will simply make them up. >> today has been awesome, girl! this has really been a great day. >> the only other allegations will be trumped-up allegations. there's nothing else. >> i love herman. is he the best? i mean, i get -- i have fun with him. he is a great, interesting guy. and thank you, herman, for helping pay for the event tonight. >> it's amazing. it gets better and better. joining us now is the former chairman of the republican party, michael steele. he is now an msnbc contributor. mr. steele, it's great to see you again. >> good to see you. >> for all the things that parties do not do well, one thing that parties do is they vet candidates. they keep people out of the running who are going to embarrass themselves and the party if they get too far. right? isn't that part o

and with us on the set, msnbc political analyst michael steele. and political writer for the "huffington post" sam stein, and host of "andrea mitchell reports," andrea mitchell. and we have the great willie geist up in new york. and of course, all of washington, d.c. we got here last night, willie. and all of washington, d.c. is obviously the story splashed across the front pages, not just here, but all over america, and everybody's talking about one thing, alabama lsu. seriously. >> it's a big deal. >> it's not a big deal, it's a huge deal. willie, quick question for you. if alabama or lsu played the washington redskins, what would the line be? >> i think they'd hang in for a quarter or so. >> the redskins. >> no, i think the redskins would hang in for a quarter or two also, but alabama would win. >> you're talking about my burgundy and gold. >> is it a bad sign -- i'm curious, is it a bad sign if somebody's running for president of the united states doesn't know that china's had nuclear weapons for 50 years? >> a red flag for some voters, ç yes

. >>> just ahead for the interview tonight is michael moore. also, michael steele is on his way. stay with us. ♪ whoa, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ we never can give enough ♪ i got something for you and you... ♪ [ female announcer ] may your holidays be merry and bright. merry pringles. delivering mail, medicine and packages. yet they're closing thousands of offices, slashing service, and want to lay off over 100,000 workers. the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think. the problem ? a burden no other agency or company bears. a 2006 law that drains 5 billion a year from post-office revenue while the postal service is forced to overpay billions more into federal accounts. congress created this problem, and congress can fix it. >>> i believe i have a good sense for where you cross the line relative to sexual harassment. >> live free or die. victory or death. bring it. >> if more allegations come, i assure you people will simply make them up. >> today has been awesome, girl! this has really been a great day. >> the only other allegations wil

michael steele who has battled his way pioneering that altitude within the republican party. bob slum, no need to add to that. heartfelt. by the way, happy thanksgiving, gentlemen. >> you, too, happy thanksgiving. >>> up next, michele bachmann has something to say about her republican rivals, but she saves the best zinger for rick perry. !=]ì(lc% you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. [ snoring ] [ thunder crashes ] [ snoring ] [ thunder crashes ] [ snoring ] [ male announcer ] vicks nyquil cold and flu. the nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, fever, best sleep you ever got with a cold... medicine. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] vicks dayquil. defeats 5 cold & flu symptoms. ♪ introducing the perfect situp. invented by the u.s. navy seal who brought you the perfect pushup, the perfect situp re-invents the situp by combining the upper ab crunch with the lower ab leg lift. then the perfect situp adds an audible coach. you'll hear a click when you've done the exercise correctly. you hear it and you'll feel it. it's this one-two punch that gets you better faster re

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michael steele who has battled his way pioneering that altitude within the republican party. bob slum, no need to add to that. heartfelt. by the way, happy thanksgiving, gentlemen. >> you, too, happy thanksgiving. >>> up next, michele bachmann has something to say about her republican rivals, but she saves the best zinger for rick perry. that's next in the sideshow. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. to find you a great deal, even if it's not with us. [ ding ] oh, that's helpful! well, our company does that, too. actually, we invented that. it's like a sauna in here. helping you save, even if it's not with us -- now, that's progressive! call or click today. no mas pantalones! [ man #1 ] i was fascinated by balsa wood airplanes since i was a kid. [ man #2 ] i always wondered how did an airplane get in the air. at ge aviation, we build jet engines. we lift people up off the ground to 35 thousand feet. these engines are built by hand with very precise assembly techniques. [ man #3 ] it's gonna fly people around the world. safely and better than it's ever done before. it w

even in this case michael steele says that's fair game. theç satirical version he sayss okay so we've really lowered the bar here, mr. shrum. we can't all jump over this bar. >> michael can't name a single example of a major candidate for office ever doing something like this. there's going to be a lot of attention paid to it because romney has put it out there. i actually think he's going to hurt himself, voters are not dumb. they're going to see through this. as i pointed out, the irony is you can could this to romney without clipping him. >> let's take a look at rush limbaugh's show. he talked about michelle obama's appearance at a nascar race this last weekend where she was booed by some of the fans and somehow it all went back to the vacation she took in spain several months ago, according to rush. here's rush using an interesting bit of american language here to describe michelle obama. >> the nascar crowd doesn't quite understand why when the husband and the wife are going the same place, the first lady has to take her own boeing

michael steele is the former chair of the republican national committee. he's now an msnbc political analyst. and dana milbank is a columnist for "the washington post." gentlemen, let's go straight to the tape, as howard used to say. here's herman cain yesterday answering a question from the editorial board of the "milwaukee journal sentinel" about libya. let's watch and listen. >> so you agreed with president obama on libya or not? >> okay, libya. president obama supported the uprising, correct? president obama called for the removal of gadhafi. just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing before i say, yes, i agreed, or no, i didn't agree. i do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason. nope, that's a different one. um -- let's see, i've got to go back and see. got all this stuff twirling around in my head. i would have done a better job of determining who the opposition is, and i'm sure that our intelligence people had that -- had some of that information. based upon who made up that opposition, okay, based upon who made

first to you, michael steele. people are rallying around him. >> they are. >> you're hearing, it i'm hearing it. >> very much so. >> does this mean sexual harassment is alleged sexual harassment is not a big deal 20 years after the fact? >> this is not a big deal. if this happened last year, it would certainly be burning a little bit differently than it is now. it's a 12-year-old incident, and i think a lot of people feel, as you've seen from some of the press accounts going back to clarence thomas' hearings and how that was kind of unfolded, the way this has unfolded for folks, they are rather dismissive of it. this is just a broadside on the campaign, and that there's nothing there. herman has already stated, you know, his position on it, and now let's move on, and they kind of want to push through it. my only concern about that is what it does it dismisses whatever issues the women may have had at the time and sort of belittles that, and that's why you're now seeing wait a minute, i want to come out and tell my

they understand it's a little bit of uppityism. >> michael steele? >> ah, rush, just a silly comment. >> silly, offensive -- >> silly, offensive, stupid. to use that term knowing it is a a -- to refer to a black person as uppity is to say to them, basically you're stepping outside of your place. and let me tell you what your place should be. i don't think that's what the folks at nascar were booing. first off, to boo the first lady, is wrong. they don't like the president's policy, she's a representation, i get that. but then to extend it to this conversation about uppityism to me is just bone headed and it's improper, and no place in the body politic, and it's offensive to me as an african-american, i know it's offensive to a lot of folks regardless of the political affiliation. so let's just move off of that craziness. and if you want to boo the first lady, fine, but don't then try to color it in a way that it is not, clearly. >> and ed rendell, can you at least rescue us and get us to the spirit of thanksgiving here? >> well,ry agree with everythi

michael steele is the former chair of the republican national committee. he's now an msnbc political analyst. and dana milbank is a columnist for "the washington post." gentleman, let's go straight to the tape. as howard used to say. here's herman cain yesterday answering a question from the editorial board of the milwaukee journal sentinel about libya. let's watch and listen. >> so you agreed with president obama on libya or not? >> okay, libya. president obama supported the uprising, correct? president obama called for the removal of gadhafi? just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing before i say, yes, i agreed, or no, i didn't agree. i didn't agree with the way he handled it for the following reason. nope, that's a different one. um -- let's see, i've got to go back and see. got all this stuff twirling around in my head. i would have done a better job of determining who the opposition is, and i'm sure that our intelligence people had that -- had some of that information. based upon who made up that opposition, okay, based upon who made u