but mr. geragos, is there any precedent in this that goes forward and in any direction? >> i've had cases cutting both ways. i had a case where i defended susan mcdougal. they came back on monday morning and acquitted her. and they said one of the reasons they didn't come back right away, they didn't want people to think that -- >> and just so you know, you can see the live shot inside the courtroom right now. the jurors have begun to enter the courtroom, which for those who have watched a bit of court tv or court coverage in general know that the arrival of the jury is obviously indicative of the imminence of the verdict. we have not heard as to whether dr. murray i'm sorry is there, but you can see the judge is, again -- >> this is the case of people versus conrad robert murray. dr. murray is present in court with counsel. mr. chernoff, mr. flanagan, mr. gorgian. the people by counsel, mr. walgren and mrs. brazil. all alternates are present and are all regular members of the jury are present. good afternoon. ladies and gentlemen of the jury, i'm advised that the jury h