, strategy and future programs, whether or not the mandatory cuts come to fruition, all this as the pentagon works its 2013 budget request that is to be submit to congress in february. can dod afford to lose $600 billion on top of $450 billion in cuts, already ordered by the president? can deeper defense cuts be averted? if not, what tradeoffs must be made and what programs could be threaten? here to discuss these questions and more is rick maze, the congressional editor of the military times newspapers, david bettertoe of the center of international studies, todd harrison of the center for strategic and budgetary assesses. , and jim of the heritage foundation. gentlemen, welcome to the show. >> good to be but. >> let's start with you, rick. what does the failure of skymen and what happens between now and january 13? >> the failure isn't surprising but it does mean there's no easy answer and no non- political way out of this any time in the future. the -- we'll return to bickering now and it will be bickering in congress between now and the november elections, about who is to blame for the f

was spending in 1998 so that was the pentagon money surge. that's brought military spending back up to the level that it was in the cold war, although, you look around, and today there's no competitor comparable to the old soviet empire, so why spend so much? well, let's take a look at the $2.5 trillion. half of that went directly to paying for new wars. the other half went to developing a new strategy that's evolved over the last 12-15 years. that strategy sets out goals and missions for the military that are far more ambitious than the traditional ones of defense and deterrence. the strategy is aimed to do a number of things. it's aimed to take our incomparable military power and to transform the world's security environment. that's one of the goals. it's aimed to try to prevent the emergence of threats, nip them all in the bud before they can grow if you can identify them, the world over. it aims to help stabilize so-called fragile states wherever we choose along the lines we choose. it's a system of nation building, and finally, it's aime

well not only the pentagon is thinking about it but it's actually part of chinese military doctrine there was a book published in one thousand nine hundred nine by two senior colonels in the people's liberation army the book is cited in my book so if you have my book you'll have the the footnote to point tonight direction where they discuss specifically the financial we're fair as a doctrine and what you're really talking about this is under the heading of asymmetric warfare under strict were fair nobody can really stand up to the united states head to head i mean russia still has a lot of nuclear weapons but in terms of surface police military armor and marines nobody can really stand up to the united states in any kind of head to head combat but it asymmetric warfare if that would be cyber chemical biological radiological financial and other kinds of unrestricted warfare the playing field is much more level so this is a threat that's taken seriously i do you think in the same way that cyber warfare is and has become more part of their tactics do you think financial wife areas tale . yes

just realizing i said that the pentagon and the defense department whatever the same thing. let's talk about making kelly we talked about this yesterday because well clearly she's a really cold hearted person and let me just remind you of what she said about pepper spray. social pepper spray which is. right i mean it's like a derivative of actual pepper it's a food product essentially. i never knew it was a food product but now get this there's a petition out there to get her to back up her claim that pepper sprays a food product by consuming as much if it has been sprayed on each protesters in one sitting on camera on fox news. i mean obviously she would never do it but. that would be amazing but that's clearly not going to happen it wouldn't be as amazing as if someone like sneak attacked her while she was on air and just like sprayed pepper spray on her face. yes exactly yeah i mean it's ridiculous to call it a food product it's more of a seasoning than an actual product so i would be satisfied if she you know pepper spray her turkey for thanksgiving and some of that kind

just realizing i said the pentagon and the defense department were never the same thing . let's talk about making kelly we talked about this yesterday because well clearly she's a really cold hearted person and let me just remind you of what she said about pepper spray. dries right i mean it's like a derivative of actual pepper it's a food product essentially. i never knew it was a food product but now. there is a petition out there to get her to back up her claim that pepper sprays a food product by consuming as much if it has been sprayed on each protesters in one sitting on camera on fox news. if you think i mean obviously should never do it but i think. that would be amazing but that's clearly not going to happen it wouldn't be as amazing as if someone might sneak attack her while she was on air and just like sprayed pepper spray on her face and i think i'm a simple yes exactly yes it is totally ridiculous to call it a food product it's more of a seasoning than an actual products so i would be satisfied if she you know pepper spray her turkey for thanksgiving and some

they are camping out in places like pentagon center and across the area. even before thanksgiving, they were outside best buy in pentagon center. best buy is waiting until black friday to open. 12:00 midnight after thanksgiving. toys"r"us and target are starting at 10:00 tonight. we found a number of shoppers don't care. they did some shopping yesterday, but they have other priorities for thanksgiving. >> i want to be with my family and not be shopping. it's ridiculous. >> wednesday ads will not start until noon on christmas day -- >> after dinner we will venture out to have some fun, get some deals, me and a friend of mine. it's very fun. >> best buy at pentagon center opens at midnight. 19 hours to go. we just chatted with some of the people over there and we will share some of their thoughts with you in the next hour. sam ford reported from arlington. >> so much anticipation for that. thank you. hard to believe. >>> 5:09 on this thanksgiving day, 40 degrees. >> and georgetown students being detained in egypt. how much longer he is expected to stay behin

changing of the guard brings bad news for the pentagon is the current us president elect battles to keep a u.s. air force out of his country saying its presence there is putting them at risk. those stories still to come but first israel has reportedly given approval for its military to take any action necessary to stop rockets coming from gaza after dozens were fired over the last week could reportedly include a ground operation political blogger larry derfner has told me that the attacks on israel come from minority groups out of hamas is control. there's not that much happening there aren't that many missiles or rockets falling in israel at all relatively speaking there's not that much happening in gaza. but the main thing is the people who are firing these missiles from gaza are not calm us which is in control or relative or let's say the by default in control of gaza it's a relatively marginal group called islamic jihad jihad cannot fight israel unless unless commerce felt that an israeli invasion were imminent commerce so far has never gone that far to say commerce itself will hold

we'll talk to sean o'keefe, a former pentagon comptroller and nasa add administrator who now heads the north american arm of e.a.d.s. plus we'll talk to the chief of army programs about the hard budget choices he faces as defense spending drops. but, first, a glimpse inside america's secret war against al- qaida in the horn of africa. after a six-month investigation, army times senior writer shawn nailer has pieced together a fascinating portrait of the battle against al-qaida leaders who took refuge in africa after being forced from afghanistan and pakistan. this secret war which has included unmanned u.s. aircraft to track and kill terrorists predates by years president obama's public noinsment last month that he had deployed 100 troops to uganda to root out a terrorist leader there. shawn's multi-part series can be found in all of military times newspapers as well as defense news. shawn, welcome back to the show. >> great to be here. >> it's absolutely a fascinating story. tell us what the mission to somalia was and why it was necessary. >> in the first of our series of articles in

was spending in 1998 so that was the pentagon money surge. that's brought military spending back up to the level that it was in the cold war, although, you look around, and today there's no competitor comparable to the old soviet empire, so why spend so much? well, let's take a look at the $2.5 trillion. half of that went directly to paying for new wars. the other half went to developing a new strategy that's evolved over the last 12-15 years. that strategy sets out goals and missions for the military that are far more ambitious than the traditional ones of defense and deterrence. the strategy is aimed to do a number of things. it's aimed to take our incomparable military power and to transform the world's security environment. that's one of the goals. it's aimed to try to prevent the emergence of threats, nip them all in the bud before they can grow if you can identify them, the world over. it aims to help stabilize so-called fragile states wherever we choose along the lines we choose. it's a system of nation building, and finally, it's aime

of the pentagon's conduct of war games forever and they're very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided in two thousand and nine that they should do a financial war game to see where that would look like it was conducted a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited then as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft carriers and b. two bombers and p.b.s. invasions but no one knew how to use stock spawns of derivatives to fight a war so the rules were you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team. the united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland the hedge funds all lu

of the pentagon's conduct of war games forever and they are very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided in two thousand and nine that they should do a financial we're going to see where that would look like it was conducted a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft. areas and b. two bombers and to be of some beige ns but no one knew how to use stock spawns of derivatives to fight a war so the rules where you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team a united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland the hedge funds all

of the pentagon's conduct of war games forever and they're very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided in two thousand and nine that they should do a financial war game to see where that would look like it was conducted a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft carriers and b. two bombers and then fabulous invasions but no one knew how to use stocks bonds and derivatives to fight a war so the rules were you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team. the united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland the hedge funds

of the pentagon's conduct of war games forever and they're very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided in two thousand and nine that they should do a financial we're going to see where that would look like it was conducted a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft carriers and b. two bombers and fabulous invasions but no one knew how to use stock spawns of derivatives to fight a war so the rules were you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot. explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team a united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland the hedge funds all lump

pentagon source said the u.s. is concerned because about six months ago, israeli prime pe minister binyamin netanyahu purged the military of generals who did not support a strike on iran and the u.s. has heard that netanyahu's wife is pushing him to act. u.s. queens officials don't rule out this is a bluff ahead of the iaea report on iran's nuclear program, and israel would like to have stronger sanctions against iran but they also at the pentagon are not ruling out that israel could do something against iran's program. >>shepard: this is to suggest that if israel were to be doing something we would not be formed and we are not in together on this thing? >>reporter: there is no indication i have at the pentagon or among defense officials i have spoken to that there is any change in the viewpoint of the administration, the white house, or the pentagon, that they would be involved in helping israel with the strike, but, there is concern that israel would act alone. one of the reasons this was given do me is that a f

of the pentagon's conduct of war games forever and they are very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided two thousand and nine that they should do a financial we're going to see with that would look like it was conducted at a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and i was then you have to use aircraft carriers and b. two bombers and their previous invasions but no one knew how to use stocks bonds and derivatives to fight a war so the rules where you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russian team a china team a united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland the hedge funds

of the pentagon's conduct of war games forever and they are very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided two thousand and nine that they should do a financial we're going to see where that would look like it was conducted a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft carriers and b. two bomber. years and fabulous invasions but no one knew how to use stocks bonds and derivatives to fight a war so the rules where you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team a united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland the hedge funds a

of the pentagon's conduct of war games forever and they are very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted this is the pentagon decided two thousand and nine that they should do a financial we're going to see with that would look like it was conducted at the top top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft carriers and b. two bombers and could use invasions but no one knew how to use stocks bonds and derivatives to fight a war so the rules were you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team. united states team i mean we had sort of europe and switzerland the hedge funds all lu

over the pentagon's conduct of war games forever and they are very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided. two thousand and nine that they should do a financial war game to see where that would look like it was conducted at a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft carriers and b. two bombers and amphibious invasions but no one knew how to use stocks bonds and derivatives to fight a war so the rules where you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team a united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland the hedge funds

of the pentagon's conduct of war games forever and they are very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided in two thousand and nine that they should do a financial war game to see where that would look like it was conducted at a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft carriers and b. two bombers and to be its invasion but no one knew how to use stocks bonds and derivatives to fight a war so the rules where you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team a united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland the hedge funds all

of the pentagon's conduct of war games forever and they are very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided in two thousand and nine that they should do a financial war game to see where that would look like it was conducted at a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft carriers and b. two bombers and their fitness invasions but no one knew how to use stocks bonds and derivatives to fight a war so the rules where you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team a united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland the hedge funds

when the revolts kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so while the instigators of the conflicts will turn seem to be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers if you know look at libya will they be able to restore normality in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think they give a moment's thought to normality or normalization i think what their concern is especially the pentagon is military control the next step will be on this so-called transitional national council in libya is to have that puppet government give nato permanent basing rights inside libya something they never had before under gadhafi sudan some of the things defenseless unless they have nato forces in there the african is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interestingly enough created just after trying as two thousand and six africa diplomacy were forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and enormous deals were signed with the chinese companies for oil exploration to build

when the revolts kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so while the instigators of the conflicts will turn or seem to be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers if you know look at libya will they be able to restore normality in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think they give a moment's thought to normality or normalization i think what their concern is especially the pentagon is military control the next step will be on this so-called transitional national council in libya is to have that puppet government give permanent basing rights inside libya something they never had before under gadhafi sudan some of the things defenseless unless they have nato forces in there the african is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interestingly enough created just after trying as two thousand and six africa diplomacy were forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and enormous deals were signed with the chinese companies for oil exploration to build h

when the revolts kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so while the instigators of the conflicts turn seem to be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers that you know look at libya will they be able to restore normality in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think they give a moment's thought to normality or normalization i think what their concern is especially the pentagon is military control the next step will be on this so-called transitional national council in libya is to have that puppet government give nato permanent basing rights inside libya something they never had before under gadhafi sudan some of the things defenseless unless they have nato forces in there the african is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interesting enough created just after china's two thousand and six africa diplomacy were forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and enormous deals were signed with the chinese companies for oil exploration to build hospit

over the pentagon's conduct of war games forever and they're very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided two thousand and nine that they should do a financial we're going to see where that would look like it was conducted a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft carriers and b. two bomber. years and fitness invasions but no one knew how to use stocks bonds of derivatives to fight a war so the rules where you could not use any kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team a united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland hedge funds all lumped

now that the pentagon is conduct a war games forever and they are very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided two thousand and nine that they should do a financial we're going to see where that would look like it was conducted a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory it was the first time they'd ever done for nasa i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft carriers and b. two bombers and there could be this invasion but no one knew how to use stock spawns of derivatives to fight a war so the rules were you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team a united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland hedge funds al

was spending in 1998 so that was the pentagon money surge. that's brought military spending back up to the level that it was in the cold war, although, you look around, and today there's no competitor comparable to the old soviet empire, so why spend so much? well, let's take a look at the $2.5 trillion. half of that went directly to paying for new wars. the other half went to developing a new strategy that's evolved over the last 12-15 years. that strategy sets out goals and missions for the military that are far more ambitious than the traditional ones of defense and deterrence. the strategy is aimed to do a number of things. it's aimed to take our incomparable military power and to transform the world's security environment. that's one of the goals. it's aimed to try to prevent the emergence of threats, nip them all in the bud before they can grow if you can identify them, the world over. it aims to help stabilize so-called fragile states wherever we choose along the lines we choose. it's a system of nation building, and finally, it's aime

withdrew the report. >> levin complaint prompted a second pentagon i.g. probe of the rumsfeld era briefings and now the pentagon sources tell fox news that second probe is complete and it, too, concludes the rumsfeld era briefings did not violate pentagon rules. when fox news asked if he has been working behind the scenes to get the i.g. to revise his conclusion, senator levin said no. >> never tried to influence conclusion of any reporter other than my own. >> the next day, senator levin told fox news in a statement his aid peter levine met with the i.g. staff to urge them to address allegations of inpropriety. >> bret: thank you. joe biden gets a little more cash from you. that's next in the grapevine. herman cain loses the mustache vote? >> bret: now fresh picks from the political grapevine. at a time when international markets are watching europe extremely closely, the rating agency standard & poor's mistakenly announced that it had downgraded france's top triple-a credit rating. the embarrassing blooper has the french government and the european comm

when the revolts kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so while the instigators of the conflicts will turn seem to be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers that you know look at libya will they be able to restore normality in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think the give a moment's thought to normality or normalization i think what their concern is especially the pentagon is military control the next step will be on this so-called transitional national council in libya is to have that puppet government give nato permanent basing rights inside libya something they never had before under gadhafi saw some of the things defenseless unless they have nato forces in there the african is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interesting enough created just after china's two thousand and six africa diplomacy were forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and enormous deals were signed with the chinese companies for oil exploration to build hosp

when the revolts kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so while the instigators of the conflicts all turned this thing could be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers that you know look at libya will they be able to restore now let's see in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think they give a moment's thought to normality your normalization i think big what their concern is especially the pentagon is military control the next step will be in this so-called transitional national council and libya's is to have that proper government give me your permanent basing rights inside libya something they never had before i took off in south sudan some of the things defenseless and those they have nato forces in there the african is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interestingly enough created just after trying his two thousand and six africa diplomacy for forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and the enormous deals were signed with the chine

when the revolts kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so while the instigators of the conflicts all turn this thing to be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers that you know look at libya will they be able to restore normality in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think we give a moment's thought to normality or normalization i think what their concern is especially the pentagon is military control the next step will be in this so-called transitional national council in libya is to have that puppet government give the legal permanent basing rights inside libya something they never had before under quite often. some of the things defenseless and those they have a need or forces in there the african army is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interestingly enough created just after trying his two thousand and six africa diplomacy were forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and enormous deals were signed with the chinese companies for o

what's the long term agenda of what republicans want which is all sort of the long war the pentagon's long war in logical administration would like to achieve at least a as a palliative compared to the problems faced by the middle class in the us this is a total clash and i'm not sure a blunder will have enough time to explain to an american voters how to get a good global economy liquid more parity as as we speak it now or this works. will gradually have better than what the republicans or the pentagon wants if you i'm not sure you can do that in one year and that's what i was going to ask i mean if what you say is there is in fact happening out there that this isn't a works and how does one really think u.s. leaders can confirm a things like enough is enough to china. look at obama's strength like what once again his splinter the kellers because obviously he does what a little it's him self in he's probably terrorized that's how i'm going to counteract. this k. this kind of rhetoric coming from all the republican candidates he's trying to pause as the harvard professor it's not goin

they actually touch the programs that cost money like unnecessary weapons systems or the other real pentagon bloat that's right aside from ron paul these candidates simply choose to ignore the cost of our two full scale wars our secret wars and our hundreds of bases all over the world because it's so much easier to say that we're going to stop funding countries who hate us but actually tackling the real areas of spending our foreign policy now this is where i would have expected a moderator to jump and say hey guys i realize authority is only one percent of the budget so i'm not sure that's where we should be focusing all of your efforts for getting this country back on fiscal track but will be too much to ask because both scott pelley and major garrett were content to let the g.o.p. presidential candidates get away with platitudes about fiscal responsibility regarding a program that is just one percent of the federal budget way to go guys are and i want to stick with the same subject and respond to another viewer that commented on our coverage of the republican foreign policy debate tonight

when the group holt's kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so all the instigators of the conflicts turned who seem to be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers if you know look at libya will they be able to restore your morality in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think give a moment's thought to normality or normalization i think what their concern is especially the pentagon has its military control the next step will be on this so-called transitional national council and libya's is to have that puppet government give the legal permanent basing rights inside libya something they've never had before apart from sudan some of the things defenselessness they have nato forces in there the african is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interestingly enough created just after china's two thousand and six africa diplomacy were forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and the enormous deals were signed with the chinese companies for oil exploratio

they actually touch the programs they cost money like unnecessary weapons systems or the other real pentagon bloat that's right aside from ron paul these candidates simply choose to ignore the cost of our two full scale wars our secret wars and our hundreds of bases all over the world because it's so much easier to say that you're going to stop funding countries who hate us but actually tackling the real areas of spending our foreign policy now this is where i would have expected a moderator to jump and say hey guys we realize a four is only one percent of the budget so i'm not sure that's where he should be focusing all of your efforts for getting this country back on fiscal track but will be too much to ask because both scott pelley and major garrett were content to let the g.o.p. presidential candidates get away with platitudes about fiscal responsibility regarding a program that is just one percent of the federal budget way to go guys are not want to stick with the same subject and respond to another viewer that commented on our coverage of the republican foreign policy debate white welc

what's the long term agenda of what republicans want which is poll sort of the long war the pentagon's long war in iraq it will administration would like to achieve at least as a palliative compared to the problems faced by the middle class in the us. there's a tall clash and i'm not sure a border will have enough time to explain to an american voters how the global economy liquid not dirty as well as we speak it now or this works so we are not and will already have a band that's what the republicans and the pentagon wants to do and actually can do that in one year and that's what i was going to ask i mean if what you say is there is in fact happening and that their presence in the works and how design ready think us leaders can conceive a things like enough is enough to china. look at obama a stranger like want to get his plane to the gallows because obviously he was watching. in the east probably terrorized that's how i'm going to counteract. this case this kind of rhetoric coming from all the republican candidates he's trying to cause as a harvard professor it's not going to war bec

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when the revolts kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so while the instigators of the conflicts will turn seem to be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers that you know look at libya will they be able to restore normality in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think they give a moment's thought to normality or normalization i think what their concern is especially the pentagon is military control the next step will be in this so-called transitional national council in libya is to have that puppet government give permanent basing rights inside libya something they never had before under gadhafi saw sudan some of the things defenseless in this they have nato forces in there the african is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interesting enough created just after china's two thousand and six africa diplomacy were forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and enormous deals were signed with the chinese companies for oil exploration to build h

when the revolts kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so while the instigators of the conflicts who turned her seem to be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers that you know look at libya will they be able to restore normality in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think they give a moment's thought to normality or normalization i think what their concern is especially the pentagon is military control the next step will be in this so-called transitional national council in libya is to have that puppet government give nato permanent basing rights inside libya something they never had before under gadhafi saw sudan some of the things defenseless unless they have nato forces in there the african is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interesting enough created just after china's two thousand and six africa diplomacy were forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and enormous deals were signed with the chinese companies for oil exploration t

when the revolts kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so will the instigators of the conflicts who will turn who seem to be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers that you know look at libya will they be able to restore normality in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think they give a moment's thought to normality or normalization i think what their concern is especially the pentagon is military control the next step will be on this so-called transitional national council in libya is to have that puppet government give nato permanent basing rights inside libya something they never had before under gadhafi sudan some of the things the defense unless they have nato forces in there the african is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interesting enough created just after china's two thousand and six africa diplomacy were forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and enormous deals were signed with the chinese companies for oil exploration to

when the revolts kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so all the instigators of the conflicts who will turn or seem to be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers that you know look at libya will they be able to restore normality in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think they give a moment's thought to normality or normalization i think what their concern is especially the pentagon is military control the next step will be on this so-called transitional national council in libya is to have that puppet government give nato permanent basing rights inside libya something they never had before under gadhafi south sudan some of the things defenseless unless they have nato forces in there the african is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interesting enough created just after china's two thousand and six africa diplomacy were forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and enormous deals were signed with the chinese companies for oil exploration

of the pentagon's conduct of war games forever and they are very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided two thousand and nine that they should do a financial we're going to see with that would look like it was conducted a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft carriers and b. two bombers and their previous invasions but no one knew how to use stock spawns of derivatives to fight a war so the rules were you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team. united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland the hedge funds all l

when the revolts kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so will the instigators of the conflicts who will turn who seem to be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers that you know look at libya will they be able to over store normality in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think they give a moment's thought to normality or normalization i think what their concern is especially the pentagon is military control the next step will be on this so-called transitional national council in libya is is to have that puppet government give nato permanent basing rights inside libya something they never had before under gadhafi sudan some of the things the defense unless they have nato forces in there the african is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interesting enough created just after china's two thousand and six africa diplomacy were forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and enormous deals were signed with the chinese companies for oil explorati

was spending in 1998 so that was the pentagon money surge. that's brought military spending back up to the level that it was in the cold war, although, you look around, and today there's no competitor comparable to the old soviet empire, so why spend so much? well, let's take a look at the $2.5 trillion. half of that went directly to paying for new wars. the other half went to developing a new strategy that's evolved over the last 12-15 years. that strategy sets out goals and missions for the military that are far more ambitious than the traditional ones of defense and deterrence. the strategy is aimed to do a number of things. it's aimed to take our incomparable military power and to transform the world's security environment. that's one of the goals. it's aimed to try to prevent the emergence of threats, nip them all in the bud before they can grow if you can identify them, the world over. it aims to help stabilize so-called fragile states wherever we choose along the lines we choose. it's a system of nation building, and finally, it's aime

of the pentagon's conduct a war games forever and they are very you know there's the red team in the blue team kind of bad guys and good guys and they do these all the time in the certain centers where these are conducted but this is the pentagon decided two thousand and nine that they should do a financial we're going to see where that would look like it was conducted a top secret weapons laboratory halfway between washington and baltimore called the applied physics laboratory but it was the first time they'd ever done finance so i was actually invited in as a as an expert consultant on how to write the rules of the game and it was they knew how to use aircraft. carriers and b. two bombers and it could be a set of asians but no one knew how to use stock spawns of derivatives to fight a war so the rules were you could not use and the kinetic weapons means nothing that would shoot or explode you could only use stocks bonds currencies and derivatives and we had teams there was a russia team a china team a united states team and then we had sort of europe and switzerland the hedge funds

when the revolts kicked off and waited for a signal from the pentagon when to return and take control of those events so while the instigators of the conflicts will turn or seem to be you know the united states and maybe some of the european powers that you know look at libya will they be able to restore normality in these countries or is it not even in their interest i don't think they give a moment's thought to normality or normalization i think what their concern is especially the pentagon is military control the next step will be in this so-called transitional national council in libya is to have that puppet government give the permanent basing rights inside libya something they never had before under gadhafi sudan some of the things defenseless unless they have nato forces in there the african is coordinating this the pentagon's africa command which is. interesting enough created just after china's two thousand and six africa diplomacy were forty heads of african nations were invited to beijing and enormous deals were signed with the chinese companies for oil exploration to build