david yepsen and ron klain, former chief of staff to both vice president joe biden and al gore. david, is it possible even if romney goes out there and wins in the caucuses on january 3rd, he still has to bat tell out with the republican right who plainly don't like him and will find somebody to try to beat him down the road. >> well, that's true, but if you're mitt romney, you could go for the quick kill, as you said, in the intro, chris. i mean, if you can win this here, he starts to roll up this nomination the way john kerry did in his party in 2004 or jimmy carter did in '76, so the presidency is not won by people who don't take risks. he's taking a risk, but the payoff is pretty good. i mean, if he gets in and loses then he's got to deal -- he has his back against the wall in new hampshire. and if he stays out, for sure he's got his back against the wall. so -- >> aren't you trying to -- it sounds like you want him -- it sounds like, david, you want him to run really hard in iowa in case, because that raises the stakes for him out there and enlarges the importance of iowa,

david yepsen and ron klain, former chief of staff to both vice president joe biden and al gore. david, is it possible even if romney goes out there and wins in the caucuses on january 3rd, he still has to bat tell out with the republican right who plainly don't like him and will find somebody to try to beat him down the road. >> well, that's true but if you're mitt romney, you could go for the quick kill, as you said in the intro, chris. if he can win this here, he starts to roll up this nomination the way john kerry did in his party in 2004 or jimmy carter did in '76, so the presidency is not won by people who don't take risks. he's taking a risk but the payoff is pretty good. if he gets in and loses he's got his back against the wall in new hampshire and if he stays out, for sure he's got his back against the wall, so either way -- >> it sounds like, david, you want him to run really hard in iowa in case because that raises the stakes for him out there and enlarges the importance of iowa, right? >> well, it -- no, chris, my analysis of this is that it's a smart move on his par