>> my work comes before our relationship. >> charlie: i'm sorry. >> i've said it. >> charlie: you've said it in your inner -- you said to her? >> talking o regret if i have any regret in those areas because it's nonsense. it didn't seem like it at the time. >> charlie: how did you approach it and how do you make it fresh? >> that's a tough one. it's always fresh. it has to be fresh. it's just that you have to get your party going and back to the beginning it's never the same. never ever the same. >> charlie: your life once you -- >> once you enter into the play it's -- you're going down something new every time. i mean, it's seemingly so. course it isn't. it'sincredibly, incredibly researched in the sense of rehearsal. from my point of view there's hardly a stone unturned. >> you always begin with a text to the and just read it and reread it and reread it. >> if you can. that's the best possible way to learn a part. because this isn't rticularly long verbay part of it is on tape iever had to learn it to use that over usedword it bemes quite organic. i think it's the preferred way of

>> charlie: john hurt is here. 's an actor famous for his diverse and masterful performances on theatre and film and tackled everything to the harry potter movie and nominated twice for the elephant man and david lynch once called him the greatest actor in the world. here's a look at some of his grtest performances. >> help me. employee. >> no. >> employ me. >> no. >> i would be faithful. >> best thing to do is to get yourself out of here best way you can. but how? >> catch the midnight express. >> what's that? it's not a train. it's a prison word. escape. [ yelling ] >> i am not an animal. i am a human being. [ groaning ] >> oh, no. not again. i've had a long time to make enemies, doctor. government and business interests even religious leaders wod like to see me depart this earth. i'll grant them their wish soon enough. but before i do, i want to make a small contribution, a final gesture of good will to the peoplef this little planet that have given -- from whom i have taken. >> rember everyone i ever sold mr. p

>> charlie: welcome to our program. we begin this evening with a political updateith tthew dowd with abc news and bloomberg news. >> to me we're at one of those pivotal points that happens in our 75-80 years in the history of our country. if you think about where we are today, 75 to 80 years ago we were in the depression into world r ii. before that we were in the civil war and moving from an agrarian society to a basic industrial society. 80 years before that, we were just establishing the first real dacdemocracy that modernrea in th revolutionary war and we're in changing economy. we're at that time. we're also at a time where people have lost faith in all the major institutions simuaneously. they lost faith in the media, they don't get all the answers. people in the middle don'tnow where to turn. they've lost faith in their governmental institutions. they don't understd things how katra could happen and why congress get it in order. they lost faith in corporation disorder. it use to be corporations were paternalistic

so welcome. >> great to be on this show again, charlie. >> charlie: tell me where, give me a sense of how you view this issue and why you made the decisions you did and what the political ramifications are as you saw them. >> well, from the very beginning, we said in los angeles that we respect the first amendment, the constitutional right of freedom of speech and assembly that protesters, if they were peaceful, had every right to come to city hall and prost the ineities society, in this case, are the growing disparity between wealth and poverty, the concentration of wealth in a small number of people. the lack of jobs in the country right now. and so early on from the very beginning as i mentioned, 68 days ago, our police officers, my staff, city staff engaged with them, talked to them virtually every single day. said to them, you can continue your protest but do so peacefully. and that's really what happened. yesterday was a maificent display of constitutional policing of its finest. >> charlie: did you learn some lessons by watching what was happen thing in other cities that inform

>> charlie: welcome to our program. tonight we look atpolitics so far with mik allen politico, jon meacham of random house. >> it's so much sharper in the debates this time. you watch the wide shot. he's the only one of the candidates. i was in the hall the other night for the foreign policy debate. he turns his body to whoever is speaking. never takes notes, never refers to notes and he does that we're told to keep himself in the game. to look for opportunities to think about when he's about to get whacked. it's a sign of, it's a little signify firef the way he's thrown himself into this campaign. he does want it and he's willing to dwhat you need to do even when it could be humiliating. >> charlie: from politics to economic and political philosophy with maria gabriel who is on called lovend keep the and carl and kari marx. >> he saw the progression of capitalism is the state we're in, a small percentage o the population actually controls all the wealth. even the middle clas is absorbing into this ever expanding base w

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was the thing. >> that's all that matters basically. >> charlie: okay. >> charlie: books about what. >> he gave me a bill james book that was this big and i read it. >> charlie: the bill james book. yes the bill james book. >> did you really read it. >> yes, i read it. i skipped a page every now and en. there's 5,000 pages. >> i did my research on these facts. but basically, you know, using these new techniques, peter convinces billyhat using them we cou have a more effective team with way less money than he's ever changed. he's bold enough to ercise these practices. i always thought bill was the sue cause and peter was the animation. >> charlie: you have so much good things to work for. you had the relationship between the two of them youhad a theory and a see of somebody coming off, looking for his last great chance even though he had given up on one great pursuit. how could you miss. >> i wish more people had thought the way you're thinking now charlie in the beginning because it's somebody who decided to roll the dice with it decided to go at it alone because that was not the pop

was the thing. >> that's all that matters basically. >> charlie: okay. >> charlie: books about what. >> he gave me a bill james book that was this big and i read it. >> charlie: the bill james book. yes the bill james book. >> did you really read it. >> yes, i read it. i skipped a page every now and en. there's 5,000 pages. >> i did my research on these facts. but basically, you know, using these new peter peter convinceshat using them we cou have a more effective team with way less money than he's ever changed. he's bold enough to ercise these practices. i always thought bill was the sue cause and peter was the animation. >> charlie: you have so much good things to work for. you had the relationship between the two of them youhad a theory and a see of somebody coming off, looking for his last great chance even though he had given up on one great pursuit. how could you miss. >> i wish more people had thought the way you're thinking now charlie in the beginning because it's somebody who decided to roll the dice with it decided to go at it alone because that was not the popular concept

>> charlie: john hurt is here. 's an actor famous for his diverse and masterful performances on theatre and film and tackled everything to the harry potter movie and nominated twice for the elephant man and david lynch once called him the greatest actor in the world. here's a look at some of his grtest performances. >> help me. employee. >> no. >> employ me. >> no. >> i would be faithful. >> best thing to do is to get yourself out of here best way you can. but how? >> catch the midnight express. >> what's that? 's not a train. it's a prison word. escape. [ yelling >> i am not an animal. i am a human being. [ groaning ] >> oh, no. not again. i've had a long time to make enemies, doctor. government and business interests even religious leaders wod like to see me depart this earth. i'll grant them their wish soon enough. but before i do, i want to make a small contribution, a final gesture of good will to the peoplef this little planet that have given -- from whom i have taken. >> rember everyone i ever sold mr. potte

. >> charlie: then you said at? >> i said what next, which was both a problem and really an opportunity which is a terrible cliche. but it was. i was 39 or nearly 40. and that is a bad time but also the last time you're going to be able to make a major change. it's halfway through. you've learned a lot, you've0zt a lot of skills and habits. this is the time that you can say do you know what i'm going to do something different now and spend the second half of your career doing something different and it was just the right time for me. i felt like there's a line in that first book that sums it up for me. it says i tried it their way now i'm going to try it my way. and that's what i did. >> charlie: so when you told your father you were going to try it your way what did he say. >> my father's an accountant and he said i'll lay you 10,000 to one it doesn't work. which to be honest a fair assement. to say you're going to make a living writing fiction it's really like saying i'm going to win the lot of re on the same day