and he started that with george w. bush. and in many ways the obama presidency has continued some of those -- almost super powers of the presidency in terms of when we go to war, the use of drones, without getting any approval from congress. i think they're very, very troubling questions about super powers of the presidency under this president and the last president that all americans ought to be concerned about. >> and one of our tweeters, it is the democratic party. not the democrat party. >> it is. you know, that's such a silly thing to hang on to. but republicans think they're being so cute, following rush limbaugh's lead by saying democrat party. i mean, it's childish. >> did you see the cpac conference over the weekend? >> i didn't go down there, but i saw certainly a lot of clips of it. you know what surprised me about that? is that mitt romney won the straw poll. the last two years, ron paul won the straw poll at cpac. these are the true believers. they really are. this is the 38th year they've come to washington. a

when george w. bush was in the white house. and if you recall, they suspended the campaign, and george w. bush called a meeting at the white house and called john mccain and barack obama, candidates, in to say, what can we do about this? whatever you say about barack obama, he did not cause the financial meltdown. he wasn't in office at all. he's still trying to dig us out of it. just a sample of where they don't care about the facts anymore. they just throw this crap out there. and you saw these people there, they love it, they stand up, they don't even think. i find it very amusing. back to your question about, look. i was really worried about president obama's re-election. because the economy not moving, coming back as fast, unemployment up 10%. president obama, i didn't think -- he wasn't forceful enough. he was spending too much time again dealing with these republicans. he wasn't putting his message out there. he lost the fight over the debt ceiling, i thought. had to give up and extend the tax cuts for the wealthiest peo

the procedures established under executive order 13337 as issued by president george w. bush on april 30, 2004 shall be carried out with the respect to authorization of and permits for the keystone xl pipeline project. >> thank you. >> the gentleman is recognized for five minutes. >> i thank you, mr. chairman. you will note, my dear friends and colleagues, that this amendment is going to utilize the procedures set forth by president george w. bush on april 30, 2004 with regard to the permitting of the pipeline. the amendment would require approval and permitting processes follow clearly understand processes established by president george w. bush. my friend notice majority who have been pushing so hard on this issue are concerned about the amount of time it's been taking to approve the permit to build this pipeline. in the executive order in question, president bush established a timely process in which an issue like this can be considered. agencies can be consulted regarding the permit application are required to submit their views within 90 days. the environmental revi

guest: i never said anything like that about george w. bush. let me tell you, george bush loves this country. i know he was trying to do what he thought was best for the country. i think he went in the wrong direction. i talked about this last night. in the early days of this country, if there had been talk shows, politics was not pretty in the days of the founding fathers. the ugliest presidential election was 1800 between thomas jefferson and john adams. after lincoln's assassination, things got to the point where we disagree with their policies, but we do not attack them personally. we have come full circle. i do not think it is good for our democracy. good morning. caller: good morning. i am so angry because you democrats, i do not what you call yourselves progressives. guest: i call myself a liberal. progressives are a liberal who is afraid of being truthful about who they really are. caller: look what is going on in this country. ok? host: thank you. guest: the president has gone out of his way with this republican members of congress to

now, many times under clinton, under george w. bush, and under president obama, senior americans have met with the russians, have given detailed power point presentations and other kinds of discussions to demonstrate, i think, very persuasively that there's no way that these systems could seriously degrade a russian attack, not that we want the russians to attack. we want the russians to feel comfortable that the retaliatory capability is not threatened. remember, if you have ten interceptors and works perfectly. if you attack it with 11 missiles, you're going to win. so you can overwhelm the system. you can confuse the system with chaff and declaws of various kinds. you can blind the radars. you can now use cyber against the communication systems. there are many things you can do to try to defense an abm system. and art out that, i think, by my colleagues. the administration decided, after many meetings, consultations, memos, and other activities and consulting with many experts of a variety of persuasions, to modify the approach

w. bush on them and then occupied our streets and bomb dissidents in the sky with drones that a hell of a lot of americans would be out on the streets shooting at their mexican or canadian occupiers how could george w. bush have thought it would be any different when he began the invasion occupation of afghanistan. well i mean as far as beginning the invasion i think it did come from nine eleven so that he had a reason you know if the u.s. attacked if of antakya been launched on mexico city from the u.s. that might have given mexico more justification in doing it but certainly we've seen that a lot of the ways that occupation of afghanistan have been carried out and especially the the light footprint which with with which the u.s. went in and especially the distraction of the iraq war have have created a situation that was that of continuing on tenable security for now more than a decade and and afghans are understandably upset about this is the burning of the qur'an as the last straw an

w. bush on them and then occupied our streets and bomb dissidents in the sky with drones that a hell of a lot of americans would be out on the streets shooting at a mexican or canadian occupiers how could george w. bush have thought it would be any different when he began the invasion occupation of afghanistan. well i mean as far as beginning the invasion i think it did come from nine eleven so that he had a reason you know if the u.s. attacked if of antakya been launched on mexico city from the u.s. that might have given mexico more justification in doing it but certainly we've seen that a lot of the ways the occupation of afghanistan have been carried out and especially the the light footprint which with with which the u.s. went in and especially the distraction of the iraq war have have created a situation that was that of continuing untenable security for now more than a decade and and afghans are understandably upset about this is the burning of the qur'an as the last straw and not

"george w. bush when he was governor said that if a family planning anything, it is, public health manner." "we would have had a million more but when it pregnancies and nearly half of them would have been abortions." if you are against abortion, why would you be against birth control? >> the only reason it has become an issue amongst republicans is that santorum is living in the 50's and he makes it an issue. i don't see any of the other candidates who make it a issue. remember the earlier debate when abc's stephanopoulos asked about contraception? romney said, "what the hell is this about?" settled issue. instead of doing the kennedy thing, i am a catholic but i don't take orders from the vatican, end story -- he does not say end of story, he keeps talking about it. when santorum is out of the race, unless he wins the nomination, i hope it will buy as an issue. >> santorum had a golden opportunity. this was a chance for him to talk about manufacturing, his grandfather story, speak to blue-coll

"george w. bush when he was governor said that if a family planning anything, it is, public health manner." "we would have had a million more but when it pregnancies and nearly half of them would have been abortions." if you are against abortion, why would you be against birth control? >> the only reason it has become an issue amongst republicans is that santorum is living in the 50's and he makes it an issue. i don't see any of the other candidates who make it an issue. remember the earlier debate when abc's stephanopoulos asked about contraception? romney said, "what the hell is this about?" settled issue. instead of doing the kennedy thing, i am a catholic but i don't take orders from the vatican, end story -- he does not say end of story, he keeps talking about it. when santorum is out of the race, unless he wins the nomination, i hope it will buy as an issue. >> santorum had a golden opportunity. this was a chance for him to talk about manufacturing, his grandfather story, speak to blue-col

when george w. bush was runningng for reelection, the price of gas went up? >> reagan also experienced the dominant question was unemployment. there had been a tremeous drop in unemployment and the trajecry was headed down with a reelectionon, and a growth rate was 6%. today is what we 7% >> which m makes my point that gas prices are not determined to of withth an election. >> we a how did this small colorado town get through tough economic times? freight rail. it attracted large companies, like vestas. we built four factories to make turbine blades towers, and genetors. creating over venteen hundndred jobs. then suppliers, stores more companies followed, creating more jobs. economists call that the ripple effect. i call it the freight rail effect. freight rail connects ery corner of america, bringing jobs and economic growth along for the ride. visit freightrailworks.org. >> i have a body, which is my right to control. >> she was fious about a propos virginia legislation that would have required women seeking abortions to undergo ultrasasound imaging by way

first, president george w. bush, for example, made 141 such appointments. second, the supreme court has never spoken on the issue. and a few lower courts that have considered this issue have not done a constitutional analysis. so the questions on the table today are not encrusted with complex precedents and these appointments are almost certain to be taken to the supreme court, not only because of the reasons you'll hear today in the discussion but also because the policy stakes are high. in the cordray case, the question of whether the consumer protection bureau will be able to function if the director was not poinappointed and the same true for the labor relations bored. the policies of both groups are contesting the authority of the president to make these appointments. if they win those cases, the agencies may not be able to act and they are interim actions may be held to be invalid. fourth, an argument can be made that the senate has considered cordray and rejected him when they could not get together 60 votes to bring up the nomination for debate. so

george w. bush was running for reelection, the price of gas went up -- >> reagan experience dominant question of unemployment, and there was a tremendous drop in unemployment, and the growth rate of the country was 6%. it is today to 1.7%. >> which makes my point that gas prices are not determinative election. >> we agree. >> that's nice. >> i have a body, which is my right to control. >> she was furious about proposed virginia legislation that would have required women seeking abortions to undergo all for sound imaging by way of vaginal insertion. that part of the bill died after gov. bob mcdonnell came out against it. across the river in maryland, the maryland senate approved gay marriage. something happens in either direction when you cross that river. >> one is a red state, what is a blue state. except, though, on the question of reproductive rights. virginia has been very, very good on this subject. although the governor move in one direction, he had to step back on the curb as well when h

but since you raised george w. bush, let's talk about that many americans and many egyptians and others in the middle east where a very happy about the connection of barack hussein obama. -- the election of him. celebrating the new way we are going to do business in the middle east and the new way we are going to be doing business in that part of the world, and then when the real test comes, where re-staff and onboard versus the people, and then we get we at the knees, so ss or may. i know you said last night that in the end, people were just happy where mr. obama and where mrs. clinton actually came down, but there were some rocky days, so let's talk about mr. obama specifically. >> they were happy that they took the stand. it was not the reason why this was succeeding. we did not have that during the revolution time. the problem of mistrust requires action. in order to rebuild trust, it is not speeches, it is not media. this will require work. this is an institution base, not just making the key decisions. you ha

he is formally dean card served as chief of staff to george w. bush from 2000 to 2006, he was assistant to the president, deputy chief of the staff and the 11th secretary of transportation. thank you, sir. >> thank you. [ applause ] i'll give you a boston accented howdy. it's great to see you, and it is a spectacular program tonight and we appreciate warren finch welcoming us all here, yes i'm the acting dean of the bush school and the bush school at texas a and m, we are proud of our students and the performance of the graduates, because they earned a great reputation for the school. i'm not here to talk about the school, i'm here to pay praise to president bush and i appreciate him bringing his library and museum and creating the school here at texas a&m, but it's special program. on november 11th, 267 years ago, there was a woman born who had a pretty great legacy for this country, and i'm not talking about barbara bush. her name was abigail smith adams. and she was the first woman to have been married to a president and was the father of a pr

he's formally dean card served as chief of staff to george w. bush from 2000 to 2006. during the bush administration, he was assistant to the president, deputy chief of staff and the 11th secretary of transportation. thank you, sir. [ applause ] >> thank you. i'll give you a boston accented howdy. it's great to see you. and it is a spectacular program tonight, and we appreciate warren finch welcoming us all here. yes, i'm the acting dean of the bush school, and the bush school at texas a&m is a graduate school. we're turning out the finest and best graduates that go into public service. we're so proud of the quality of the students and the performance of the graduates because they have earned a great reputation for that school. but i'm not here tonight to talk about the bush school. i am here tonight to pay praise to president bush, and i appreciate him bringing his library and museum and creating the school here at texas a&m, but this is really a pretty special program. on november 11th, 267 years ago, there was a woman born who had a pretty great legacy for this coun

george w. bush, 37. president clinton, 53. president george w. bush, 141. so far, president obama has made 26. but once we have -- reason they didn't exist before 1980 is that there was no need for intrasession appointments by the president because the nate acted within one, two, or three days when the executive branch nomination was over. if there is a session there is no lack of availability in the session. as a matter of accommodation i'm less troubled to using the recess appointment clause that has been pending before the senate for a good while than i am in using it with respect to a nomination that has not been pending before the senate. the legality, illegality, i don't think would change one way or the other. those would either stand or fall together. as a prudential matter making it a combination. the reason being if the nomination has been before the senate, the senate has had it within its power to engage within the function. in fact, it chose not to do so. the senate has never had a called up and debated what advice to give the president on the

from 2001, president george w. bush's proposal from no child left behind. we will talk to sam dillon. >>> when president lincoln was shot on april 14th, 1865, he was wearing a black coat made for his second inauguration by broobrook brooks brothers. it is displayed in the ford museum lobby. american history tv showed the original coat on display for the public and learned how the artifact is preserved for future generations. lincoln's coat on american artifacts this sunday morning at 8:00. >>> just the way i'll remember it. here is the wonderful moment when senator lott revealed his nostalgia. >> when he ran for president, we voted for him. we're proud of him. >> talkingpointsmemo.com, josh marshall into the breaking news business. >> the media ecosystem is such a different world today than it was ten years ago. i think things like that happen all the time now. i know that there are certainly big stories that, tpm has had. we have breaking news right and left. it has almost become commonplace. it's not nearly as surprising today as it was back then. >> more

george w. bush's budget director, george w. bush who raised the debt ceiling seven times. which mitt romney never complained about. presidents inevitably raise the debt ceiling. republicans do it. democrats do it. george w. bush did it. ronald reagan did it. mitt romney has never seen it as a scandal before. now, though, he's try to make a scandal about it hoping nobody can bear to look at the pictures while we're also listening to him talk. how about you, senator portman? you're just going to go to appear at that event with mitt romney, with a big smile on your face and not going to peep while your candidate lies about your record? really, senator portman? you're happy to take credit for something you didn't do? ♪ made sure his credit score did not go bad ♪ ♪ with a free-credit-score-dot-com ♪ ♪ app that he had ♪ downloaded it in the himalayas ♪ ♪ while meditating like a true playa ♪ ♪ now when he's surfing down in chile'a ♪ ♪ he can see when his score is in danger ♪ ♪ if you're a mobile type on the go ♪ ♪ i suggest you take a tip from my b

from 2001, president george w. bush's proposal from no child left behind. we will talk to sam dillon. >>> when president lincoln was shot on april 14th, 1865, he was wearing a black coat made for his second inauguration by broobrook brooks brothers. it is displayed in the ford museum lobby. american history tv showed the original coat on display for the public and learned how the artifact is preserved for future generations. lincoln's coat on american artifacts this sunday morning at 8:00. >>> just the way i'll remember it. here is the wonderful moment when senator lott revealed his nostalgia. >> when he ran for president, we voted for him. we're proud of him. >> talkingpointsmemo.com, josh marshall into the breaking news business. >> the media ecosystem is such a different world today than it was ten years ago. i think things like that happen all the time now. i know that there are certainly big stories that, tpm has had. we have breaking news right and left. it has almost become commonplace. it's not nearly as surprising today as it w then. >> more about

george w. bush suffered a loss to john mccain on the strength of crossover voting. if you you want on sound smart, tell your friends in 2000 even with the democratic nomination also up for grabs, crossover democrats made up an estimated 17% of the vote in the michigan republican primary. george w. bush received 67% of the republican vote, mccain beat him in the final tally 50-43 after getting 80% of the vote cast by crossover democrats. enough of the real news. let's huddle up to talk about the most unexpected bromance of the 2012 political season. mitt romney and kid rock. kid rock joined romney on stage for his final event in michigan last night performing the campaign song born free live to open for romney. >> he said, first of all, he said if you're elected president, will you help me help the state of michigan. i said i would. he said if you're elected president, will you help me help the city of detroit. and i said i would. and then i turned to him and i said, by the way, given the fact i

george h. w. bush fitting for a former navey man. when a man gives you the key to his home it means you are the best and morse most valuable friend to him. when a man gives you the door of his home it means you are one of his family. this is one of the exhibits at the presidential library. >> i wonder what my mother might think of the library. she might say george don't you think it's a little egotistical? everything is about me. >> george bush's mother was proud of his achievements and the effect his service has to the bush's family. >> when my mother started points of light institute over 30 million americans were volunteering annually. today over 60 million americans are serving the community. >> there is evidence mr. bush's life has inspired others around the world. >> in the last 20-years since president bush started the points of light movement, there has been a huge adoption of volunteer servants. >> points of life ceo and chairman site statistics indicating the volunteerism movement is growing. >> to go from 75 million to --

george w. bush's budget director, george w. bush who raised the debt ceiling seven times. which mitt romney never complained about. presidents inevitably raise the debt ceiling. republicans do it. democrats do it. george w. bush did it. ronald reagan did it. mitt romney has never seen it as a scandal before. now, though, he's try to make a scandal about it hoping nobody can bear to look at the pictures while we're also listening to him talk. how about you, senator portman? you're just going to go to appear at that event with mitt romney, with a big smile on your face and not going to peep while your candidate lies about your record? really, senator portman? you're happy to take credit for something you didn't do? ♪ get a free balcony upgrade when you book now. limited time offer. some restrictions apply. our machines help identify early stages of cancer and it's something that we're extremely proud of. you see someone who is saved because of this technology, you know that the things that you do in your life, matter. if i did have an opportunity to meet a cancer survivor,

w. [laughter] but, and rostow was closer to johnson than bundy ever was, but he was not as trusted by the system. and is so he couldn't do the job as well. because as we point out in if administration after administration in the book, you have to be trusted by the system. the people, the people have to believe you're going to bring issues straight to the president, and if you're, even if your view doesn't agree with the national security adviser's view, that he should be able to present it fairly to the president. you should trust him to present it fairly. and people didn't quite trust rostow to do that. >> host: professor, henry kissinger, brent scowcroft, ronald -- condoleezza rice have all served as national security advisers. has the power of the nsa grown? >> guest: well, it's interesting. at least of the adviser, the power reached it height with henry kissinger. he was working for richard nixon. nixon did not trust the state department. nixon very much wanted to dominate foreign po

w. bush. my friends in the majority who have been pushing so hard on this issue are concerned about the amount of time it's been takinging to approve the permit to build this pipeline. in the executive order in question, president bush established a timely process in which an issue like this can can be considered. agencies can be consulted regarding the permit application and are required to submit their views within 90 days. the environmental review cannen completed and expert who's know about the subject and projects like this can and will be consulted. and it will be dealt with by agencies with greater expertise than by the state department on matters of the permitting that will go forward. enestate of allowing this process to play out, congress has chosen to rush the administration even though there are serious problems with the route of the pipeline. and well saestablished and well understood mechanisms for issuing permits of this kind are unfortunately, disregarded in the legislati

i was thinking just yesterday to george w. bush. he was already in the general election, but there was a lot of hand wringing stories at one point among establishment republicans about how he was running the race and whether he was more vulnerable. and there's certainly a feeling like that within the romney campaign that he is, you know, he's running stronger than he's given credit for, that he's in a position now to close this thing in february and march, and sort of squeeze off the oxygen to newt gingrich who you have to admit has a more difficult path if he's going to try to pull something together. >> chuck todd, do you see any way forward for newt gingrich where he could seriously challenge mitt romney's supremacy in this cycle? or is this game just about over after four states? >> well, i think let's see what happens. i'm curious to see, you know, santorum's messing around in those tuesday caucus states. does he overperform in one of those, maybe even beat romney in the beauty contest in missouri where santorum has decided his

w. bush used at the onset of our decorated war almost ten years ago america must not ignore the threat gathering against us facing clear evidence of pearl we cannot wait for the final proof the smoking gun. that could come in the form of the mushroom cloud we fell for that nonsense hook line and sinker and as a result we lost more than three thousand soldiers a trillion dollars and the goodwill of the world that we had accumulated post nine eleven and not only have these republicans not learned from the mistakes made after a decade of war they want to make an even more egregious mistake of going to war with iran a developed first world nation with a powerful military look at these pictures from around this is not a stone age country this is not afghanistan this is not a nation gutted of its military might like iraq was this is a fully developed world power and while the iranian government is controlled by radicals in the rhetoric and posture coming from iran is seriously troubling the co

under george w. bush, republicans were trying to reach out to latino voters in a way they hadn't before. some of the advances they had made, and clearly they were reversed. >> it's not -- cubans don't need immigration reform. puerto ricans are americans by birth. you say it's very diverse. you don't have one hispanic community. there are many communities, but people feel offended by the tone, attacked in the community, and it brings people out to call on one issue, which is immigration. if the tone doesn't change, hispanics are going to go, president obama, even though he hasn't delivered on immigration reform, has over 60% of the vote. >> and george w. bush, the republican has to get somewhere up in there in the national elections, especially as the population grows. and that's why marco rubio became such an interesting player. he didn't endorse, why jeb bush stayed out of the endorsement game in florida. >> he did say that anybody -- the person who wins in florida is going to become the nominee. >>

w. bush used at the end of our decade of war almost ten years ago america must not ignore the threat gathering against us. facing clear evidence of pearl we cannot wait for the final proof the smoking gun. that could come in the form of the mushroom cloud we fell for that nonsense hook line and sinker and as a result we lost more than three thousand soldiers a trillion dollars and the goodwill of the world that we had accumulated post nine eleven and not only have these republicans not learned from the mistakes made after a decade of war they want to make an even more egregious mistake of going to war with iran a developed first world nation with a powerful military look at these pictures from around this is not a stone age country this is not afghanistan this is not a nation gutted of its military might like iraq was this is a fully developed world power and while the iranian government is controlled by radicals in the rhetoric and posture coming from iran is seriously troubling the con

george w. bush's budget director, george w. bush who raised the debt ceiling seven times. which mitt romney never complained about. presidents inevitably raise the debt ceiling. republicans do it. democrats do it. george w. bush did it. ronald reagan did it. mitt romney has never seen it as a scandal before. now, though, he's try to make a scandal about it hoping nobody can bear to look at the pictures while we're also listening to him talk. how about you, senator portman? you're just going to go to appear at that event with mitt romney, with a big smile on your face and not going to peep while your candidate lies about your record? really, senator portman? you're happy to take credit for something you didn't do? [ male announcer ] this is lois. the day starts with arthritis pain... a load of new listings... and two pills. after a morning of walk-ups, it's back to more pain, back to more pills. the evening showings bring more pain and more pills. sealing the deal... when, hang on... her doctor recommended aleve. it can relieve pain all day with fewer pills than tylenol. th

. >> george w. bush re-elected. >> barack obama, president elect of the united states. >> and good evening again. you're watching a special ediction of "ac 360." primary coverage. >> the biggest contest yet in a crucial state this november. winner take all in the general election and winner take all for mitt romney tonight. >> mitt romney. florida's choice. a win that helped him look like the front runner again. >> a competitive primary does not divide us. it prepares us and we will win. >> a new setback for newt gingrich and his roller coaster campaign. >> we're going to contest every place and we're going to win, and we will be in tampa as the nominee. >> four candidates with four contests behind hem, with the fight to the nomination is just beginning. the votes are in. florida has spoken, and now the campaign goes west. >> the campaign does head west, but the story tonight is what happened in the east in florida. if you're just joining us, welcome to our "ac 360" special primary coverage. live un

they tossed in convenient leaders overboard george w. bush. he's out of here. excommunicated. they declared war on the ruling class. the assembled megaphones in in the part and give voice to the people's outrage. with other faction, the actual political descendents of jackson and truman and roosevelt failed to rise to the occasion. they didn't have much to say. they didn't seem to get the circumstances called for something different. they could not in race requirements at the moment even as fighting hard times was once the very reason for being. and take the bailouts for example. there are a hundred different ways that situation could have been dealt with. each one of them less than an outrage than the one shows by bush and had paul fenestra shree secretary in the bush administration. upon taking office, president obama didn't break with paulson's campaign, didn't lay plans to investigative powers over american life. instead, he took hints to let the world know that he embraced the policy and strategy. made it his own and each time political adversity came in the following yea

they tossed incon event leaders overboard, like george w. bush. he is out of here. not a conservative. ex-communicate. they declared war on the ruling class. they assembled with megaphones in the park and gave voice the people's outrage. the other faction, the actual political descendents of jackson and truman and roosevelt, they failed to rise to the occasion. they didn't have much to say. they never seemed to get it. that circumstances called for something different. they could not embrace the requirements of the moment even though responding to hard times was once they're party's very reason for being. i take the bailouts, for example. there are 100 different ways that situation could have been dealt with. each one of them less of an outrage than the way chosen by bush and hank paulsen, the treasurery secretary in the bush administration. but upon taking office, president obama didn't break with paulsen's campaign, didn't lay plans to reduce investment banking's power over american life. instead he took pains to let the world know he embraced the paulsen strategy

w. bush by people like hank paulson at the height of the financial crisis take a look at this this was when the house first rejected the seven hundred billion dollars bailout bill and the dow plunged seven hundred seventy eight points the largest one day drop in history. we've experienced significant turmoil or from natural markets in the last few days including the collapse of washington mutual and wall culture year and the failure of two major financial institutions in europe. that prices show the emperor has no clothes and still the us has too big to fail banks zombie banks propped up by the federal reserve we still just see u.s. public debt getting racked up by the trillions as unemployment is still depressed while our addiction to debt has been fed by the public purse the government stepped in to borrow and spend when the private sector collapsed and there's just so much we didn't learn and didn't change in the u.s. after the financial crisis despite all the promises of house leader

senator barack obama back in two thousand and eight tocking about president george w. bush adding four trillion dollars to the debt we've known are over mine trillion dollars over. there but we are going to pay burke. dollars for every man woman and child ok responsible. yeah it sure is only the problem is that obama has added five trillion dollars to it that's in only three years into his term annualized that's almost three times what bush spent we have fifteen trillion dollars in debt national debt what punishment to leaders have if they don't do what they say at the end of the day the political system rewards complacency so to talk solutions let's bring back and karl denninger a blogger and radio host of the market ticker and author of the book leverage how cheap money will destroy the world and karl i'm really curious what incentives at all do politicians have to not lie about things like you know deficit spending an order to get elected and what incentive do they have to do anything about u.s. fiscal problems. absolutely none then what you've seen from barack obam